From an essay entitled the Swastika by American Nazi George Lincoln Rockwell &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& When you don't have money for paper, meeting halls, etc.,...
Bonjour Tout le Monde, Laws are used under capitalism to control a population's ideas and actions. Thus they supplant individual responsibility. To censor...
Citizens of the World
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May 1, 2007 3:37 pm
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Haven't had time to read and digest it yet (long article) but at a cursory glance it looks interesting. Here's a snippet: Generally speaking, in a communist...
Another one for London/near-London comrades (sorry!). JP ECOSOCIALISM AND THE RED-GREEN REVOLUTION PROF. JOEL KOVEL TO GIVE A TALK ON ECO-SOCIALISM AT LSE...
Trevor: You've got more bromides in your post than an apothecary. And you completely sidestep the issue of whether someone can forfeit their own right to free...
Bonjour David, Robin asked what people on the list thought of the suppression of the right to criticize or deny the holocaust that occurred in the last general...
Citizens of the World
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May 2, 2007 12:26 pm
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Trevor wrote: Robin asked what people on the list thought of the suppression of the right to criticize or deny the holocaust that occurred in the last general...
Hi Dave & Trevor I suppose a distinction needs to be made between questioning the facticity of a historical event or process and the incitement to harm others...
Robin: Questioning per se does not seem to be the issue does it, but denial. It seems to be a purely bourgeois distinction of whther one ought to be alowed to...
Robin, The original posting by you concerned "denying the holocaust". Why shorten the title now? Is "holocaust" the red button to inflame and, possibly, ...
Citizens of the World
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May 3, 2007 3:42 pm
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Hi Dave ... denial. ... to ... on ... As explained in my previous post I see no justification in petitioning the state to do anything. The state is an...
Hi Trevor ... shorten ... Wasnt aware that I did. Only clicked on the reply button of the previous post by Dave which had this title as I now discover... Is...
Dave Searles (7128) said, ... denial. ... to ... on ... If the holocaust denier doesn't have freedom of speech, then you won't have it either. Your suggession...
Dave had written: As far as I am concerned For me, and I would urge for all workers, that the state can lock up every holocaust denier. I see no "right" to...
Dave Searles writes: "I do not agree with the premise that there is a right to deny the holocaust." Why? There is nothing special about the Jewish holocaust,...
Citizens of the World
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May 5, 2007 5:25 pm
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I do believe that the Nazi Holocaust was of a species, as well as other instances of genocide, so that does in my mind make them "special." ... Again, I see...
Hi Dave ... workers ... I think this is all getting a little confusing. It depends on what you mean by a "right". There are different ways of interpereting ...
Legislation grants the franchise to vote in elections for certain offices in the political government. In a few limited cases legislation also extends that...
Bonjour tout le monde, David Searles writes: "In the 30s and 40s Nazi capitalism/colonialism simply murdered 2 out of 3 Jews living in Europe and left...
Citizens of the World
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May 6, 2007 5:08 pm
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Greetings, The World in Common discussion list on Yahoogroups has been set up by World in Common (www.worldincommon.org) to provide a forum for those who are...
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May 6, 2007 7:57 pm
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Greetings, The World in Common discussion list on Yahoogroups has been set up by World in Common (www.worldincommon.org) to provide a forum for those who are...
worldincommon@yahoogr...
May 6, 2007 7:58 pm
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Hi Dave ... OK but by and large there is a "right to vote" as far as the overwhelming majority of workers are concerned. Exceptions to this only prove the...
or the Rwandan genocide, or the mass killings by Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge...... Yes, I see your reasoning. It wouldn't help to lock up people who try to ...
This thread started with the premise that certain states were criminalizing holocaust denial and the question was put to us as to what our position should be...
Bonjour Tout le Monde, David Searles [almost] asks: "I came accross a paragraph in the intro to "KARL MARX his life and environment" by Isaiah Berlin (Oxford...
Citizens of the World
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May 8, 2007 12:49 pm
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David: But under capitalism how do you insure that people cannot deny the holocaust? By allowing a dishonest state to issue the punishment? The holocaust...
David and all: I forgot to note that changing the focus of fascism to that of anti-semitism masks the underlying economic causes of its application. Byron ... ...
Bonjour Byron, You wrote: "The holocaust caused the deaths of 4.5 million to 6 million Jews. Usually unmentioned, but of equal importance, are the 9 million...
Citizens of the World
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May 9, 2007 2:09 pm
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Trevor: I'll see if I can get the email address of the ex-SLP member that keeps track of these things. I'll send it to you directly and I'm sure he can...
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