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6044 Chris Marsh
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Dec 1, 2006
11:21 am
... Hi Robin, This broken link 'problem' happens all the time, and isn't a problem really. I just copied the bits into Word, reassembled them and Ctrl click....
6045 David Searles
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Dec 1, 2006
12:23 pm
The exchange value of a commodity is the amount of socially necessary labor embodied in its production. Commodities existed before capitalism (where the means...
6046 jrdavis
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Dec 1, 2006
2:32 pm
The foloowing FAQ may be of some help: http://www.dreamscape.com/rvien/Economics/Essays/LTV-FAQ.html Torgun Bullen <torgun@...> wrote: I may have...
6047 jrdavis
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Dec 1, 2006
2:34 pm
The foloowing FAQ may be of some help: http://www.dreamscape.com/rvien/Economics/Essays/LTV-FAQ.html Torgun Bullen <torgun@...> wrote: I may have...
6048 Chris Marsh
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Dec 1, 2006
4:08 pm
... it still ... of labour workers put in? Hi Torgun, The problem with LTV is it assumes that material in the ground - 'natural resources' - has no value, and...
6049 Chris Marsh
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Dec 1, 2006
4:23 pm
... post. ... sector ... articles ... activities)" ... Robin, I offered this as a sub-set of 'unpaid labour', so not just, and not only, 'peasants', because...
6050 arminiush Offline Send Email Dec 1, 2006
4:45 pm
Hi All, From an old study course of our sector (SLP cum NUP). [We've got more if anybody wants it]: For freesocialism, arminius 14. MARXIAN ECONOMICS - THE LAW...
6051 BGreen
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Dec 1, 2006
7:32 pm
... Dead on Chris...but it is even a little worse than that. Marx unfortunately believe the return on land to landlord's (called "economic rent") was also...
6052 Eric R.
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Dec 2, 2006
6:33 am
... Dead on Chris...but it is even a little worse than that. ............ BG I'm not sure which point you are saying Chris is dead on about here. It is indeed...
6053 robbo203 Offline Send Email Dec 2, 2006
2:36 pm
National Rural Women's Conference Presentation by Marilyn Waring Professor of Public Policy, Albany Campus, Massey University, Auckland, New Zealand In the...
6054 robbo203 Offline Send Email Dec 2, 2006
3:11 pm
http://www.communityeconomies.org/papers/rethink/rethinkp4feminizing. pdf. Feminizing the economy: metaphors, strategies, politics JENNY CAMERON, School of...
6055 bddanel Offline Send Email Dec 2, 2006
8:30 pm
Bill G: A pile of gold that is one foot under the ground in my backyard doesn't have any value until it is brought to market. The prevailing market value is a...
6056 David Searles
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Dec 2, 2006
8:55 pm
jrdavis provided a link to someone's essay on the "labor theory of value" The first paragraph stated: ========= The LTV is the theory that market prices are...
6057 David Searles
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Dec 2, 2006
9:43 pm
Chris wrote: The problem with LTV is it assumes that material in the ground - 'natural resources' - has no value, and so can be exploited freely. And didn't...
6058 arminiush Offline Send Email Dec 3, 2006
12:22 am
Hi all, FYI. For freesocialism, arminius ...from today's Oregonian, p D1: Money study may explain Scrooge's anti-social behavior by Janet Cromley "Just...
6059 David Searles
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Dec 3, 2006
7:56 am
b.g. wrote: Marx unfortunately believe the return on land to landlord's (called "economic rent") was also surplus value as he too thought that land was just...
6060 BGreen
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Dec 3, 2006
10:45 am
... what I believe as a mutualist is that capital seeks to use the power of the state via privilege, direct subsidies, tarrifs, etc. to subsidize accumulation,...
6061 Chris Marsh
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Dec 3, 2006
11:03 am
Hi Eric, Just to clarify, you said: '> I'm not sure which point you are saying Chris is dead on about here.' All I was saying was to query Torgun's point:...
6062 BGreen
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Dec 3, 2006
11:11 am
... the fundamental question then becomes "well, how do we get from where we are today to what you describe?" traditionally it has been thought that the...
6063 David Searles
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Dec 3, 2006
3:10 pm
b.g. wrote: by ending all privilege, subsidies and tarrifs the market will drive price to cost (eliminating economic profit) and as Benjamin Tucker said "the...
6064 David Searles
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Dec 3, 2006
3:37 pm
Chris wrote: by saying that no labour has been expended on 'resources' in the ground, so - in the way capitalism works and does its accounting - those...
6065 David Searles
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Dec 3, 2006
4:32 pm
b.g. wrote: the fundamental question then becomes "well, how do we get from where we are today to ... inherent in capitalism will ... authority of the...
6066 BGreen
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Dec 3, 2006
4:54 pm
... I wouldn't agree... by ending privilege we end economic rent to landowners, economic interest to bankers, and economic profits to capitalists...by ending...
6067 David Searles
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Dec 3, 2006
8:10 pm
b.g. wrote: by ending privilege we end economic rent to landowners, economic interest to bankers, and economic profits to capitalists...by ending subsidies to ...
6068 BGreen
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Dec 3, 2006
10:02 pm
... why would you even want to take over the means of industrial production (land, labor, capital) if you have a basic income guarantee from the private...
6069 bddanel Offline Send Email Dec 3, 2006
11:05 pm
BGreen: Privilege flows from private ownership of the productive means and not the other way around. If a millionaire leaves his holdings to his cat does that...
6070 robbo203 Offline Send Email Dec 3, 2006
11:23 pm
Hi BG ... a true market system ... which peasants had held ... freely available to laborers ... in every country without ... colonial robbery, is beyond ... ...
6071 BGreen
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Dec 3, 2006
11:31 pm
Byron- labor is the basis of ownership of labor and capital (stored labor). since land nor the return on land (economic rent) is the product of labor it is...
6072 arminiush Offline Send Email Dec 4, 2006
12:39 am
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6073 bddanel Offline Send Email Dec 4, 2006
1:23 am
BGreen: The conferring of ownership on individuals has usually been by murderous force. Force thus utilized results in ownership which then decides what laws...
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