Hi All,

There's always the little problem: "exact" color can be so dependent on lighting; 2 photos of the same model, & "color2" turned out closer to what I had in mind, natural light with no changes other than the angle...

In fact, I don't like the green in "color1" at all!

Cheers, -Lars


On 2/13/2012 10:19 PM, Knut Erik Hagen wrote:

 

Hei,

I have always liked the best guess way - old colour samples change in time and looking at documents from the time I often see that they were more interested in cost and how long the paint/dope lasted than the exact colour.

   MVH

Knut Erik

On 14 February 2012 13:37, Figaro <marquiseduchatelet@...> wrote:

Folks it is not that darned important to ¨KNOW¨ the exact colour is it????
We all sense color differently, as to dope finishes and color stability;
well just forget it. Let us just try to get what info we can find publish
it and stop bifurcating gnats eyelashes. Honestly we all know all it took
was on can of old dope mixed into whatever was being applied and no one
sweat-ed the difference. I know, I worked with old guys who were the
factory guys at Rearwin, Luscombe, Stinson-Piper.... nor did the fed. spec
paints on our beloved warbirds always match spec. straight off the line.
But we modeller folk have once again created a windmill to charge.
anyway, back to lurking..


On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:58:51 -0000, Alain Bourret
<alain.bourret@...> wrote:

> Dear Bill,
>
> I recommend you to try "Insignia Red" on the Fokker F-10A because it is
> the shade which is the closest to the actual colour.  I let you
> determine the final mix up to your mood and taste.  At this point, it is
> more alchimie than chemistry.   :-)
>
> As to the red applied on the Lioré et Olivier LeO-21, I have seen
> colorized photos and paintings through the years which have represented
> the red in all its shades from a very dark red to a very light one.  I
> have never been able to locate contemporary colour charts for European
> aircraft as we can have for American and even Ccanadian aircraft.  I
> asked for help on French forums in the past to elucidate this question
> but I never obtained a single answer.  I recently discovered that the
> Fokker F.VIIb/3m operated by Air Orient were doped/painted with Titanine
> products as were the KLM trimotors of the same period.  Unhappily, I
> found nothing for the Air Union aeroplanes.  We cannot always entirely
> trust the colour liveries of aeroplanes displayed in museums but in the
> case of the Lioré et Olivier LeO-21, our best reference, for the moment
> at least, remains the Farman Goliath fuselage displayed at the Musée de
> l'Air.  I have joined two photos showing the golden colour and the red
> applied to this venerable airliner.    I could have send you paintings,
> colorized photos and colour profiles of LeO-21 with all kinds of gold &
> red renditions but it would have been useless because we cannot trust
> any of them.  So for the moment we must put our faith in the Musée de
> l'Air's  Goliath.  Amen!