You won't get charged the fee, but if it is found that the leather doesn't have
a permit with it customs have the right to reject entry and the exporter could
be up for fines.
As I said before, we were give 40 forms a year on each export licence ($150ea
per year), of which I had one for leather and one for stockwhips ect...but
apparently the previous government had not written it into legislation so it was
not legal and now that we have a new government the rules are being followed to
a t and they don't give us any free forms and the cost is $60ea.
While the chances of being caught not having a permit probably are very slim, it
is illegal.

Kind Regards
Simon






----- Original Message -----
From: Guy Richmond
To: whipcraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 2:54 AM
Subject: RE: [whipcraft] anyone notice???





Wow, I'm the guy who opened up this topic (anyone notice???) and that just
absolutely takes the cake. Now we have to pay a $60 export permit fee.
Strange that I never heard of this before. I just recently bought a
hide(from Australia) over eBay and had to pay no such fee. Well that has
just made my mind up, I'm switching entirely to Kip. I don't want to get a
letter from the Australian Gov't telling me I owe a $60 fee for their
precious kangaroo. I think we here in the USA should start charging a $60
export fee on our animal products to every other country in the world. That
would bankrupt, hum, just about every other country. I'm sick of this. It's
time citizens of the USA stop paying the check for everybody else in the
world.

-----Original Message-----
From: whipcraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:whipcraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Simon Martin
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:13 AM
To: whipcraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [whipcraft] anyone notice???

No problems, I will do.
Depending on your country, but if your in the US you won't have to pay
import duties. There is now also a $60 Australian Government export permit
fee on Kangaroo that you will have to pay. I had been allowed 40shipments on
what was called a k2 forms free of charge, but they have recently dropped
that and now all shipments are a $60 fee. There has been a fair uproar from
us whipmakers over here, and it has been raised in parliment, so hopefully
that rule will be overturned in the future.

Kind Regards
Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: seearby bunker
To: whipcraft@yahoogrou <mailto:whipcraft%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [whipcraft] anyone notice???

Ok, when you get the export license, let me know. I want to buy a few raw
hides. Would I have to pay import duties or whatever? I've never had to
before.

--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Simon Martin <simon@whipmaker.
<mailto:simon%40whipmaker.com.au> com.au> wrote:

From: Simon Martin <simon@whipmaker. <mailto:simon%40whipmaker.com.au>
com.au>
Subject: Re: [whipcraft] anyone notice???
To: whipcraft@yahoogrou <mailto:whipcraft%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:53 AM

Currently I have a couple of large roos about .8 sq mtr and 1 medium roo at
about .6 sq mtr. This is approx size as they are not measured and only sold
by the hide.
Again the more quantity bought the cheaper they are but for one large its
$66 and a medium $55. That's aus dollars.

Kind Regards
Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: seearby bunker
To: whipcraft@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [whipcraft] anyone notice???

Do you have any idea what the price will be? For roo rawhide strands or
hides (what size in square meters)?

--- On Mon, 6/15/09, Simon Martin <simon@whipmaker. com.au> wrote:

From: Simon Martin <simon@whipmaker. com.au>
Subject: Re: [whipcraft] anyone notice???
To: whipcraft@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 9:56 AM

Thats fine:o)
I currently don't have an export permit for rawhide, but in another month or
so my licence is due for renewal so I'm going to have rawhide put on my
permit as quite a few people want it.
Rawhide roo is about .5mm in thickness, not much thicker than paper really.
Drop me an email if you want further info.

Kind Regards
Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: seearby bunker
To: whipcraft@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [whipcraft] anyone notice???

No problem. I was just "needling" you a little. Do you have any roo rawhide
lace (or skins if no lace)? A rancher friend wants me to make a riata for
him and I thought roo would be much better than cow rawhide. It would take a
lot more though since it's so thin. The end product should be about 50 to 60
ft long. I've never even seen roo rawhide though. It must be extremely thin
when dry...like the vellum that was once used before paper was available.

And, sorry about the snide comments. I got carried away with it.

--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Simon Martin <simon@whipmaker. com.au> wrote:

From: Simon Martin <simon@whipmaker. com.au>
Subject: Re: [whipcraft] anyone notice???
To: whipcraft@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 11:09 PM

Money is not an issue with me at all. However at the same time I supply most
of the well know whipmakers around the world. By them purchasing of me it
allows me to have skins contract tanned in large quantities. I can then pass
these savings on to whipmakers/plaiters and I also grade the leather
according to the way I would want it for my own use which keeps them happy.

I apoligize if I came accross as doing a sales pitch, I was merely offering
my service to the forum.

Kind Regards
Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: seearby bunker
To: whipcraft@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [whipcraft] anyone notice???

So, who's your contact? I thought we were all friends here. If you are using
this forum as a sales route, I'm not buying. It's "for the good of all". So,
what's your angle?...money?

--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Simon Martin <simon@whipmaker. com.au> wrote:

From: Simon Martin <simon@whipmaker. com.au>
Subject: Re: [whipcraft] anyone notice???
To: whipcraft@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 6:37 AM

Unfortuantly so many of the kangaroos don't even get tanned in Australia.
Many Italian, Chinese, and Japanese own the hide merchants and a lot of
these skins are tanned overseas to be turned into shoes and handbags. The
demand for Kangaroo outstrips the harvest allowed by government and this is
why the price is always high. The raw skin cost just keeps on increasing
over time. If an increase in the harvest was allowed it would hit headline
news around the world, and we all know what will happen then! Don't kill the
poor things!

A lot of the skins from Northern Australia are not suitable for
whipmaking/plaiting due to ticks. While the drought did have an effect on
the quality of the skins available it really shouldn't have effected overall
skins available, as only 4 million kangaroos are harvested every year and
there is estimated to be 50million in Australia. The best skins come from
South Australia and I'm fortuanate to have a good contact in this area.

Let me know if you would like a price on tanned skins.

Kind Regards

Simon Martin
www.kangarooleather .com.au
www.whipmaker. com.au

----- Original Message -----
From: markarich159
To: whipcraft@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 3:58 AM
Subject: [whipcraft] anyone notice???

Anyoboby notice that even though the drought in the northern part of
Australia is ostensibly over and the government has allowed culling to
increase back to pre-drought levels, the price of roo hides has not dropped
an iota. I was just speaking to one of my suppliers and he blamed it on "the
Tanneries" and said that although more and higher quality hides are now
readily availble, the price WILL NOT at all. I guess they've never heard of
the laws supply and demand down under. I think it's about time we showed
"the Australian Tanneries" that Kip is a much more affordable option until
we force them to lower prices. I don't know about you, but I've been an
extremely patient plaiter/buyer with Australie over the last several years.
Basically taking them at their word that "the drought" was awful and we just
had to bear with it and keep paying these high prices but eventually prices
would come down. I've paid thousands more then I should have over the past
several years. Well my patience ,for one, has run out. 'Roo is awsome , but
there are alternatives.

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