i think some members might be interested in the near-weedhopper plans from
midwest engineering for a 2 axis and 3 axis plane that can be built in
60-80 hours each. the 2 axis is a tail dragger and the 3 axis is a
tricycle. these are solid looking designs and the plans seem well
drawn. if money motivation, time and spouse approval ever all come
together, i hope to build one. there is a midwest hot link on my site
http://www.hci.net/~shamblin/ulair.htm. glenn bartel is the guy selling
the plans. good flying! bill shamblin

On 16 Dec 1998, John Tenseth wrote:

> Hi Darren, The man to contact on Sky Pups is
>  Dan Grunloh ,  gronloh@...   he built one and knows all about them.Has a
web sight probably listed on UL Homepage,very nice guy and very knowlegable on
ULs in general. Still trying to figure a good way to fill in the space in my
stream line struts and the tangs.Wood will work I suppose but wonder if any body
has used epoxcy or the like. Think maybe Kolb uses these type of struts but they
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Hi Darren, The man to contact on Sky Pups is
  Dan Grunloh ,  gronloh@...   he built one and knows all about them.Has a
web sight probably listed on UL Homepage,very nice guy and very knowlegable on
ULs in general. Still trying to figure a good way to fill in the space in my
stream line struts and the tangs.Wood will work I suppose but wonder if any body
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Darren,
I have a set of plans for a Banty which is alot like the skypup, I
think.
Oh, and you don't have to apologize for the non-Weedhopper post.
The only thing I ask of the list members is NO FLAMING !!

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Hello every body :l
I have a weedhopper simulator but when I got it I thought it would way
better than it is .
On the game the weedhopper looks like a mini-max .
The controls are real jerkey and the game is really a pretty old game .
If you would like to try the game then contact me and I will see if I can
find it for you.

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Bill, any chance of you having the guy's name in rome?  I'm looking for plans or
a
project!
thanks for the info!!
darren

Bill Shamblin wrote:

> i studied sky pups for a while and they are fascinating little 2
> axis planes. i think the design is less cross wind forgiving than the
> weedhopper because of the taildragger setup and that main wheels forward
> of the
> cg cause instability while landing but main wheels behind tend to
> straighten you up when you touch down. i talked to the designer and he has
> made the plans available to his teenage son to sell for $50 i think. Also
> i know a fellow in rome georgia who finished building one. a problem for
> me was they only are designed for 200 pound payloads as i recall.
> good flying! bill shamblin
> On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Darren wrote:
>
> > anyone have a set of plans for the skypup?  I am interested in these little
> > planes, but can't find much info on them.  ( and I know... it's not a
weedhopper,
> > and for this I appologize.)
> > thanks!
> > darren
> >
> > WEEDHOPHER@... wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I finally got into the air again!!! (First time since Sept. 21) We're
having
> > > wonderful weather for Minnesota this year. High temp was 50 today, with
light
> > > breeze out of the Southwest, clear skies, and great visibility. I took off
> > > from the neighbor's bean field right next to my house, as it hasn't been
> > > plowed yet. Even though the ground is dry, the field turned out to be
softer
> > > than it appeared by walking across the field to check it out before
setting up
> > > the Weedhopper. It took about 400 ft. to get off the ground, instead of
the
> > > normal 150 ft., so I'll probably continue trailering to the neighbor's
2000
> > > ft. grass strip for further flights. I flew to a friend's strip about 8
miles
> > > away and stopped for a visit. His strip had more activity than usual. (In
the
> > > 45 minutes I was there, 3 other planes landed) I then returned home to a
soft
> > > landing in the bean field. (Landing roll was only about 50 ft.)
> > > Just had to share my joy,
> > > Mike Schweim ... Weedhopper pilot enjoying "winter" in MN.
> > > PS Normal high temp for this time of year, is 30.
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i studied sky pups for a while and they are fascinating little 2
axis planes. i think the design is less cross wind forgiving than the
weedhopper because of the taildragger setup and that main wheels forward
of the
cg cause instability while landing but main wheels behind tend to
straighten you up when you touch down. i talked to the designer and he has
made the plans available to his teenage son to sell for $50 i think. Also
i know a fellow in rome georgia who finished building one. a problem for
me was they only are designed for 200 pound payloads as i recall.
good flying! bill shamblin
On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Darren wrote:

> anyone have a set of plans for the skypup?  I am interested in these little
> planes, but can't find much info on them.  ( and I know... it's not a
weedhopper,
> and for this I appologize.)
> thanks!
> darren
>
> WEEDHOPHER@... wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > I finally got into the air again!!! (First time since Sept. 21) We're having
> > wonderful weather for Minnesota this year. High temp was 50 today, with
light
> > breeze out of the Southwest, clear skies, and great visibility. I took off
> > from the neighbor's bean field right next to my house, as it hasn't been
> > plowed yet. Even though the ground is dry, the field turned out to be softer
> > than it appeared by walking across the field to check it out before setting
up
> > the Weedhopper. It took about 400 ft. to get off the ground, instead of the
> > normal 150 ft., so I'll probably continue trailering to the neighbor's 2000
> > ft. grass strip for further flights. I flew to a friend's strip about 8
miles
> > away and stopped for a visit. His strip had more activity than usual. (In
the
> > 45 minutes I was there, 3 other planes landed) I then returned home to a
soft
> > landing in the bean field. (Landing roll was only about 50 ft.)
> > Just had to share my joy,
> > Mike Schweim ... Weedhopper pilot enjoying "winter" in MN.
> > PS Normal high temp for this time of year, is 30.
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hi darren! so many people are looking for used weedhoppers, it might be
worthwhile to have a virtual weedhopper lot as part of this list. i know
there are several free classifieds for different planes around the
internet. what do others think?? good flying! bill shamblin

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Darren wrote:

> Hello!  I am looking for another weedhopper, as my first one met an
> early death due to a bad fuel pump.  If you have any used birds, or know
> where I can find one, please let me know!  I have an engine, so I can do
> with just sails and airframe.
> thanks!
> darren
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anyone have a set of plans for the skypup?  I am interested in these little
planes, but can't find much info on them.  ( and I know... it's not a
weedhopper,
and for this I appologize.)
thanks!
darren

WEEDHOPHER@... wrote:

> Hi all,
> I finally got into the air again!!! (First time since Sept. 21) We're having
> wonderful weather for Minnesota this year. High temp was 50 today, with light
> breeze out of the Southwest, clear skies, and great visibility. I took off
> from the neighbor's bean field right next to my house, as it hasn't been
> plowed yet. Even though the ground is dry, the field turned out to be softer
> than it appeared by walking across the field to check it out before setting up
> the Weedhopper. It took about 400 ft. to get off the ground, instead of the
> normal 150 ft., so I'll probably continue trailering to the neighbor's 2000
> ft. grass strip for further flights. I flew to a friend's strip about 8 miles
> away and stopped for a visit. His strip had more activity than usual. (In the
> 45 minutes I was there, 3 other planes landed) I then returned home to a soft
> landing in the bean field. (Landing roll was only about 50 ft.)
> Just had to share my joy,
> Mike Schweim ... Weedhopper pilot enjoying "winter" in MN.
> PS Normal high temp for this time of year, is 30.
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hi reno! mike s (weedhophr@... ) tells very good weedhopper history
stories about john chotia as i remember. there are 2 articles on my
website ( http://www.hci.net/~shamblin/ulair.htm ) that tells some history
also. good flying! bill shamblin

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, [iso-8859-1] rené grinda wrote:

> Hi i am rené Grinda and i live in France near Nice on the "Cote d'Azur"
> where i fly a weedhopper europa 2 seats with a central hull.
> Did someone knew the story of weed fabrication ?
> i think that it has be created by a NASA enginneer ?
> Thanks for response
> René
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Bill Shamblin <shamblin@...>
> À : weedhopper@egroups.com <weedhopper@egroups.com>
> Date : lundi 14 décembre 1998 11:51
> Objet : [weedhopper] hi everyone
>
>
> >hi all! im bill shamblin in morganton nc. i have my plane at shiflet field
> >in marion nc 20 miles down the road. this is a little grass strip right
> >out of richard bach's BIPLANE or stephen coontz's CANNIBAL QUEEN. im in
> >love with the whole process.
> >   my 447 engine is in my honda civic with a dead ignition. it ran fine
> >one day. sputtered twice the next and went dead. im taking it back to
> >howard ray in jasper georgia for exploratory surgery this weekend. has
> >anyone else had an ignition go dead on a rotax?
> >   i have some weedhopper articles on my website
> >http://www.hci.net/~shamblin/ulair.htm including 2 magazine reviews and
> >something about the wing design. id be glad to have any suggestions as i
> >am very much a student of it all and have much to learn. there is also a
> >weedhopper simulator there to download, although i have not heard anyone
> >say it worked well for them yet. there may be some problems with that
> >somehow.
> >
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Hi i am rené Grinda and i live in France near Nice on the "Cote d'Azur"
where i fly a weedhopper europa 2 seats with a central hull.
Did someone knew the story of weed fabrication ?
i think that it has be created by a NASA enginneer ?
Thanks for response
René
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Bill Shamblin <shamblin@...>
À : weedhopper@egroups.com <weedhopper@egroups.com>
Date : lundi 14 décembre 1998 11:51
Objet : [weedhopper] hi everyone


>hi all! im bill shamblin in morganton nc. i have my plane at shiflet field
>in marion nc 20 miles down the road. this is a little grass strip right
>out of richard bach's BIPLANE or stephen coontz's CANNIBAL QUEEN. im in
>love with the whole process.
>   my 447 engine is in my honda civic with a dead ignition. it ran fine
>one day. sputtered twice the next and went dead. im taking it back to
>howard ray in jasper georgia for exploratory surgery this weekend. has
>anyone else had an ignition go dead on a rotax?
>   i have some weedhopper articles on my website
>http://www.hci.net/~shamblin/ulair.htm including 2 magazine reviews and
>something about the wing design. id be glad to have any suggestions as i
>am very much a student of it all and have much to learn. there is also a
>weedhopper simulator there to download, although i have not heard anyone
>say it worked well for them yet. there may be some problems with that
>somehow.
>
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hi all! im bill shamblin in morganton nc. i have my plane at shiflet field
in marion nc 20 miles down the road. this is a little grass strip right
out of richard bach's BIPLANE or stephen coontz's CANNIBAL QUEEN. im in
love with the whole process.
    my 447 engine is in my honda civic with a dead ignition. it ran fine
one day. sputtered twice the next and went dead. im taking it back to
howard ray in jasper georgia for exploratory surgery this weekend. has
anyone else had an ignition go dead on a rotax?
    i have some weedhopper articles on my website
http://www.hci.net/~shamblin/ulair.htm including 2 magazine reviews and
something about the wing design. id be glad to have any suggestions as i
am very much a student of it all and have much to learn. there is also a
weedhopper simulator there to download, although i have not heard anyone
say it worked well for them yet. there may be some problems with that
somehow.

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I'm all green Mike!!
I haven't flown in about a year and am looking forward to getting my
bird back in the air also. (re-build/repaint)
Glad to hear of you joy.

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Hi all,
I finally got into the air again!!! (First time since Sept. 21) We're having
wonderful weather for Minnesota this year. High temp was 50 today, with light
breeze out of the Southwest, clear skies, and great visibility. I took off
from the neighbor's bean field right next to my house, as it hasn't been
plowed yet. Even though the ground is dry, the field turned out to be softer
than it appeared by walking across the field to check it out before setting up
the Weedhopper. It took about 400 ft. to get off the ground, instead of the
normal 150 ft., so I'll probably continue trailering to the neighbor's 2000
ft. grass strip for further flights. I flew to a friend's strip about 8 miles
away and stopped for a visit. His strip had more activity than usual. (In the
45 minutes I was there, 3 other planes landed) I then returned home to a soft
landing in the bean field. (Landing roll was only about 50 ft.)
Just had to share my joy,
Mike Schweim ... Weedhopper pilot enjoying "winter" in MN.
PS Normal high temp for this time of year, is 30.
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  most of you most likely  know my Dad Darrin West.
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I have a "B" early 80s.Boom tube to be replaced with triple wall
> 21/4,2,17/8,one inside the next..Also have streamline aluminum extrusion
> 6061-t6 for struts.Has anyone got a good method of installing connector
> in the ends ? They are 2 7/16 by1".I suppose I could carve wood plugs
> and slit as per original but it seems kinda crude.Any ideas appreciated.
> also want to update wing tips to later curved style, need new sails any
> way.Also got a 447 B 2.58 box. What size(type) prop do you all like
> best?
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>John,
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The Austrailian "Brolga" kevlar/composite sold
by Ultraprop in Grass Valley, Ca. is the ruggedess
prop, and fastest I've ever seen on the Weedhopper.
I use 11 degree pitch blocks - run 55 indicated
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Anyone out there have any experience with weedhoppers on floats? I fly an MX
from floats and unfortunately I have to trailer it.  The set-up and take down
is very time consuming so I'm considering a plane with a more simplified
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John,
I have always used pins with ss rings to secure the wing struts to the
wing tangs on the axle and wings.  I have never used any kind of plugs
like your talking about although I would recommend that if bolts were
used.  On the other tube ends however, I chucked a piece of round stock
(wood) in a lathe and sanded it down to fit snug in the tube, cut it
into pieces about 3" long, slid them into the end of the tube and
drilled the hole for the bolt.  This has worked much better than the
original plastic plugs.  Also, for the plastic washers, I took a 1" hole
saw and cut out several washers out of a sheet of acrovyn which is used
on hand rails and wall guards in hospitals.  It's a type of vinyl.  In 5
years, I have not had one split like the plastic ones did.
I can't help you with the prop right now because I just bought a 337 for
mine.  I'll post which prop I use with it later.

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I have a "B" early 80s.Boom tube to be replaced with triple wall
21/4,2,17/8,one inside the next..Also have streamline aluminum extrusion
6061-t6 for struts.Has anyone got a good method of installing connector
in the ends ? They are 2 7/16 by1".I suppose I could carve wood plugs
and slit as per original but it seems kinda crude.Any ideas appreciated.
also want to update wing tips to later curved style, need new sails any
way.Also got a 447 B 2.58 box. What size(type) prop do you all like
best?
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In a message dated 98-12-09 22:26:12 EST, you write:

<<
  Mike,
  What engine are you running on your '84 "C"?
   >>
Still using the original Chotia 460. I modified the ignition system from stock
though.
I replaced the flashlight battery box with a 6 volt motorcycle battery, and re
wired so each coil has it's own switch, for preflight operational check of
each coil.
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In a message dated 98-12-09 22:05:12 EST, you write:

<<
  I have just acquired a 377 rotax for my bird.  It now is set up with
  fan
  cool.  Should I buy the air scoop and remove the fan or use the fan?
  Any experience with rotax engines on tractor configurations?  I'm not
  sure what the factory does with their 447's.
   >>
I don't know what they do either. I've heard tractor installations have better
cooling free air with a scoop than with fan cooling, as the fan pushes the air
forward, against ram airflow in tractor installations.
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In a message dated 98-12-09 20:52:12 EST, you write:

<<
  I'm a wannabe owner. anyone out there have an airframe and sails?
  thanks,
  darren
   >>
Don't know of any off hand. Check the classified web pages. there have been
some there in the past. Here are some links to websites.
Mike
  <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/Learjet35x">Learjet's Aviation web site</A>
<A HREF="http://www.clasifieds2000.com">Classified's</A>
<A HREF="http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/%7Estei0302/WWW/ULTRA/ultralight.html">The
Ultralight Home Page</A>  <A HREF="http://www.ul-flyer.com/library.html">
ULTRALIGHT FLYER ONLINE: REFERENCE LIBRARY</A>
<A HREF="http://www.ultralightnews.com/1index.html">UltralightNews</A>
<A HREF="http://www.dl.ket.org/staff/dhempy/ul/">David Hempy's Ultralight Page
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Darren
     I have a line on three frames and 5 sets of sails. I'll let you know if
it pans out. I fly with the Chotia square head. I have heard horror stories
but I put over 40 hours on it during the summer and never got a burp.
     Also be patient the list will grow, To my knowledge there are currently
over 600 Weeds flying out there.
                     John

----- Original Message -----
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To: <weedhopper@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 5:57 PM
Subject: [weedhopper] Question!


>I'm a wannabe owner. anyone out there have an airframe and sails?
>thanks,
>darren
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Mike,
What engine are you running on your '84 "C"?

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I have just acquired a 377 rotax for my bird.  It now is set up with
fan
cool.  Should I buy the air scoop and remove the fan or use the fan?
Any experience with rotax engines on tractor configurations?  I'm not
sure what the factory does with their 447's.

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Hi all you Hopper pilots.
Mike in Mankato, MN
1984 Weedhopper C model
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I'm a wannabe owner. anyone out there have an airframe and sails?
thanks,
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I noticed that no one is posting anything.  We now have 5 members plus
myself!  In just one day :-)
To post a message, send an e-mail to: mailto:weedhopper@egroups.com
Lets get this thing going!!  I know if you have a weedhopper, you have
questions!!

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Somebody sell me a weedhopper, and fast!!

Darrin West wrote:

> Thanks to every one who has joined the list.  I hope it will continue to
> grow in the days to come.  Please let all your weedhopper friends know
> about the list and invite them to join.  I look forward to hearing from
> you all.
>
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