An attempt at true internet democracy fails because the organizers can't get past "traditional" political mindsets. -Philo ... philo@... AOLIM: philo589...
Philo
philo@...
Nov 1, 2000 4:29 pm
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Any citations?...
AVeryPsychicMale@...
Nov 2, 2000 12:49 am
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I don't have any citations, but one issue that was brought up in a case I was working on (involving IRC chats) was their reliability. Basically the logs are...
Robert E. Jones, III
rjones@...
Nov 2, 2000 3:18 pm
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The question of reliability runs even deeper than that. IMs and ICQ can paint a very inaccurate picture of what is going on, and someone who is skilled with...
AVeryPsychicMale@...
Nov 2, 2000 3:28 pm
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I agree, because timing it important to understanding the flow of conversation, which may be hard to discern from a text reading. For example (from a recent...
Robert E. Jones, III
rjones@...
Nov 2, 2000 3:49 pm
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In a message dated 11/2/2000 9:20:35 AM Central Standard Time, ... Hello, Rob. Did the other party offer any information tending to show that the logs had not...
simparl@...
Nov 2, 2000 3:50 pm
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In a message dated 11/2/00 10:50:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, ... pause ... you ... I've had people make death threats to me in IMs. Why weren't they...
AVeryPsychicMale@...
Nov 2, 2000 4:24 pm
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My problem with IM and chat logs is that they don't tell the whole story. Someone can be harassing you in a chat room, you lay into them in an IM, the IM is...
AVeryPsychicMale@...
Nov 2, 2000 4:32 pm
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... I don't know. Did you bring it up to the police?...
Robert E. Jones, III
rjones@...
Nov 2, 2000 5:05 pm
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... The other side made absolutely no showing that the logs had not or could not have been modified. In fact, they tried to admit a printed copy of just...
Robert E. Jones, III
rjones@...
Nov 2, 2000 5:44 pm
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... Many times. Also to AOL and NOTHING happened to the accounts of the people harassing me....
AVeryPsychicMale@...
Nov 2, 2000 5:47 pm
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So what? Any single piece of evidence doesn't "tell the whole story." That is NOT a reason to exclude it, unless the evidence itself is unreliable or not...
Robert F. Bodi
rfb@...
Nov 2, 2000 5:53 pm
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... Was there any evidence to indicate they had the intent, and the ability, to carry out their threats?...
lizard
lizard@...
Nov 2, 2000 6:06 pm
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In a message dated 11/2/00 12:55:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, rfb@... ... Another problem is that some computers are better equipped to record IMs than ...
AVeryPsychicMale@...
Nov 2, 2000 6:17 pm
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... Definitely....
AVeryPsychicMale@...
Nov 2, 2000 6:58 pm
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... Sounds like Lyndon Johnson style voting. It is said kennedy chose him to help steal the election in the southern states. CWSIV ...
Carl William Spitzer
carlwilliamspitzeriv@...
Nov 3, 2000 7:58 pm
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... Hi Folks, I did a little searching a couple weeks ago and while the comments made to and about my client didn't rise to the level of a serious threat, it...
Pam Fratini
fratini@...
Nov 3, 2000 7:58 pm
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... philo@... AOLIM: philo589 ICQ: 9802707 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The memories of my family outings are...
Philo
philo@...
Nov 3, 2000 8:02 pm
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That's not the issue. The issue is proving that an IM or chat log 1) came from the person accused; and 2) isn't snipped or edited or otherwise portrays in a...
AVeryPsychicMale@...
Nov 3, 2000 8:22 pm
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actually, there is some new information about the case. i - one of the makers of voteauction.com - have it here for you. it was CORE who deaccctivated our...
lizvlx
liz@...
Nov 3, 2000 9:51 pm
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Good luck. Hope you win....
AVeryPsychicMale@...
Nov 3, 2000 10:06 pm
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In reference to the message below, what is the jurisdiction of the US Government/legal system for domains/websites located and/or registered outside of the US?...
Andy Hepler
andyhepler@...
Nov 3, 2000 10:18 pm
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Hi, Andy. The jurisdiction would presumably be based on the traditional "minimum contacts" analysis for personal jurisdiction. It may help to look at some of ...
simparl@...
Nov 3, 2000 10:41 pm
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Thanks to E-Prairie for this news. http://www.eprairie.com/news/viewnews.asp?newsletterID=1188 Chicago and Illinois won't be voting online anytime soon. Our...
simparl@...
Nov 4, 2000 12:47 am
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Come on guys, I KNOW someone here has it. I could GUESS at the format, but why bother?...
AVeryPsychicMale@...
Nov 6, 2000 3:20 pm
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Beware-You can be a Victim of Circumstances Last week, India's premier ISP, VSNL (with 60 % + market share), sent a warning to all its subscribers that any...
Naavi
naavi@...
Nov 6, 2000 3:26 pm
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The Adobe firm, whose software many use to read .pdf files and documents such as many United States Federal Government publications, is looking at getting much...
David P. Dillard
jwne@...
Nov 7, 2000 2:36 pm
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Scholars conducting research at the Library of Congress will not be able to override the mechanisms protecting copyrighted material online, a new library rule...
Carl William Spitzer
carlwilliamspitzeriv@...
Nov 7, 2000 7:20 pm
2150
Are We Going To Witness a Cyber Tianamen Square? In what could be considered as an attempt to take firmer control on the Cyber Society attached to China, the...
Naavi
naavi@...
Nov 8, 2000 8:04 pm
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In the following news article, eBay is reported to have received immunity from liability under California law for alleged unfair business practices, pursuant...
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