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Re: [wbailsbfinance] Re: Frank LeFever's Query

--- paul4sure@... wrote:
> Frank,
> Tell Patty she has my permission to disclose my 9-5-04
> email to her on the
> subject. That will allay your concerns about "hearsay."
> Paul Surovell


If I hear her say she heard you say something, that is
hearsay. I'm afraid of basing too much on hearsay.

Are you afraid to say directly to us (not just me, all of
us) what you personally and/or in your (former) official
capacity know you did?

--Frank

===================================================

> In a message dated 3/16/2005 12:53:57 AM Eastern Standard
> Time,
> fflefever@... writes:
>
> > Paul--
> >
> > Let's see if I have this straight: I need to ask Patty
> to say what
> > you said? I have to depend on hearsay concerning your
> answer? (you
> > DIRECT me to do that?)
> >
> > You presume to tell me that my questions cannot be
> dignified with an
> > answer because you do not approve of the basis of my
> questions?
> >
> > This is not what one expects from an honest man. This
> contributes
> > directly to the distrust your answering simply "yes or
> "no" could
> > dissipate, to the benefit of all.
> >
> > I do not need any excuse for asking, need no
> "anonymously" offered
> > rationale. I have a right, as does any member of WBAI,
> to ask basic
> > questions, such as (1) how much was collected? (2) how
> and when was
> > it collected? (3) who collected it? (4) what happened
> to it then?
> >
> > My motion goes to a perfectly appropriate subset of
> these questions,
> > the kind of nitty-gritty detail this committee should
> be allowed to
> > see before it's asked to buy a pig in a poke (i.e.
> "review" and
> > approve a budget full of mysteries).
> >
> > Take your word that all those mystery items were "OK"?
> we can't even
> > get a straight answer on one small detail about which
> you have
> > personal knowledge.
> >
> > --Frank
> >
> >
>
==========================================================
> > --- In wbailsbfinance@yahoogroups.com, paul4sure@a...
> wrote:
> > > Frank,
> > >
> > > With regard to your question concerning the former
> Treasurer of
> > the LSB, as
> > > you know, I've refused to dignify your question with
> an answer,
> > because it is
> > > based on an anonymous posting on the Goodlight Board.
> > >
> > > However, to save the rest of the Finance Committee
> from having to
> > deal with
> > > such foolishness, I direct you to PNB Director Patty
> Heffley who
> > has known the
> > > answer to that question since 9-5-04. Please tell
> her that she
> > has my
> > > permission to answer your question.
> > >
> > > Paul Surovell
> > >
> > > In a message dated 3/15/2005 11:20:35 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> > > fflefever@y... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > --- In wbailsbfinance@yahoogroups.com, "bnbediako"
> > <bnbediako@b...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > In word and text format.
> > > > > Baruti
> > > > ------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > CORRECTIONS:
> > > >
> > > > (1) March 16, not 15?
> > > >
> > > > (2) Please refer to my corrections of the prior
> minutes. You
> > have
> > > > omitted one of the THREE (3) motions I presented:
> > > >
> > > > [I and II Presented with the GIGO rationale]
> > > >
> > > > I. Moved, that management be instructed to disclose
> to all WBAI
> > > > members each case of payments other than salaries
> to regular
> > staff,
> > > > including the names of all "consultants,
> contractors, and/or
> > > > vendors" receiving payments in FY 2004, the
> amounts, the dates,
> > and
> > > > the purposes for which payment was made.
> > > >
> > > > II. Moved, that management be directed to disclose
> full details
> > of
> > > > expenses for the radiothons of 2003 and 2004,
> including amounts
> > paid
> > > > to specific individuals and the stated purpose of
> each payment.
> > > >
> > > > [III presnted under Fresh Air Funding Event Motion
> rationale]
> > > >
> > > > III. Whereas persistent controversy regarding
> fund-raising
> > events
> > > > spoils the atmosphere for future fund-raising
> efforts, and
> > whereas
> > > > delays in answering listener's questions about
> these events or
> > > > refusing to answer them contributes to the bad
> atmosphere,
> > therefore
> > > > we ask that the former LSB treasurer answer at
> least one of
> > these
> > > > questions: did he or did he not collect money "at
> the door" for
> > > > the "911" event at Riverside Church?
> > > >
> > > > --Frank
> > > >
> >
> >
> > --- In wbailsbfinance@yahoogroups.com, paul4sure@a...
> wrote:
> > > Frank,
> > >
> > > With regard to your question concerning the former
> Treasurer of
> > the LSB, as
> > > you know, I've refused to dignify your question with
> an answer,
> > because it is
> > > based on an anonymous posting on the Goodlight Board.
> > >
> > > However, to save the rest of the Finance Committee
> from having to
> > deal with
> > > such foolishness, I direct you to PNB Director Patty
> Heffley who
> > has known the
> > > answer to that question since 9-5-04. Please tell
> her that she
> > has my
> > > permission to answer your question.
> > >
> > > Paul Surovell
> > >
> > > In a message dated 3/15/2005 11:20:35 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> > > fflefever@y... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > --- In wbailsbfinance@yahoogroups.com, "bnbediako"
> > <bnbediako@b...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > In word and text format.
> > > > > Baruti
> > > > ------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > CORRECTIONS:
> > > >
> > > > (1) March 16, not 15?
> > > >
> > > > (2) Please refer to my corrections of the prior
> minutes. You
> > have
> > > > omitted one of the THREE (3) motions I presented:
> > > >
> > > > [I and II Presented with the GIGO rationale]
> > > >
> > > > I. Moved, that management be instructed to disclose
> to all WBAI
> > > > members each case of payments other than salaries
> to regular
> > staff,
> > > > including the names of all "consultants,
> contractors, and/or
> > > > vendors" receiving payments in FY 2004, the
> amounts, the dates,
> > and
> > > > the purposes for which payment was made.
> > > >
> > > > II. Moved, that management be directed to disclose
> full details
> > of
> > > > expenses for the radiothons of 2003 and 2004,
> including amounts
> > paid
> > > > to specific individuals and the stated purpose of
> each payment.
> > > >
> > > > [III presnted under Fresh Air Funding Event Motion
> rationale]
> > > >
> > > > III. Whereas persistent controversy regarding
> fund-raising
> > events
> > > > spoils the atmosphere for future fund-raising
> efforts, and
> > whereas
> > > > delays in answering listener's questions about
> these events or
> > > > refusing to answer them contributes to the bad
> atmosphere,
> > therefore
> > > > we ask that the former LSB treasurer answer at
> least one of
> > these
> > > > questions: did he or did he not collect money "at
> the door" for
> > > > the "911" event at Riverside Church?
> > > >
> > > > --Frank
> >
>
>




Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:19 am

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Frank, With regard to your question concerning the former Treasurer of the LSB, as you know, I've refused to dignify your question with an answer, because it...
paul4sure@...
paul_surovell Offline Send Email
Mar 16, 2005
4:46 am

Paul-- Let's see if I have this straight: I need to ask Patty to say what you said? I have to depend on hearsay concerning your answer? (you DIRECT me to do...
Frank LeFever
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Mar 16, 2005
5:53 am

Frank, Tell Patty she has my permission to disclose my 9-5-04 email to her on the subject. That will allay your concerns about "hearsay." Paul Surovell In a...
paul4sure@...
paul_surovell Offline Send Email
Mar 16, 2005
6:03 am

... If I hear her say she heard you say something, that is hearsay. I'm afraid of basing too much on hearsay. Are you afraid to say directly to us (not just...
F. Frank Le Fever, Ph...
fflefever Offline Send Email
Mar 16, 2005
6:19 am

Frank, Maybe I'm not making myself clear. Patty Heffley has been in possession of an email from me since September 5, 2004, which answers your question. It's a...
paul4sure@...
paul_surovell Offline Send Email
Mar 16, 2005
8:05 am

... On the contrary, you've made one thing perfectly clear....
F. Frank Le Fever, Ph...
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Mar 16, 2005
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