Hello, Neil. There are several participants here who will, I'm sure, have good advice for you. I have never been in your position; I was a student at a Waldorf...
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Dan Dugan
dandugan_1999
Aug 17, 2011 9:23 pm
... I wish more Waldorf schools would do that. Having a rule that both parents must agree on Waldorf would save a lot of grief. ... You need a good lawyer. ......
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Roger Rawlings
downfromfog
Aug 17, 2011 10:10 pm
Hi again. A specific suggestion. I think your basic argument, to a judge or anyone else, should be that in removing your daughter from a Waldorf school...
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Roger Rawlings
downfromfog
Aug 17, 2011 10:17 pm
... Hi, Dan. It seems to me that Neil clearly does have a problem with Waldorf. He said "I voiced my concerns and basically said that I disagree wholeheartedly...
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alicia h.
zooey_stockholm
Aug 17, 2011 10:28 pm
... But waldorf did the right thing in not enrolling the child against the father's wish, thus not trying to put a(n other) wedge between the parents. This...
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Neil
ntieszen
Aug 17, 2011 11:45 pm
Thanks everyone for your help, I have a lot of reading to do which will at least allow me to focus rather be scattered in my approach. I have an attorney now...
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Margaret Sachs
powerofjoy2004
Aug 18, 2011 5:09 am
Hi, Neil, and welcome to this list. I think it is very important to educate your lawyer about the occult nature of Waldorf education. Anthroposophists are...
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petekaraiskos
Aug 18, 2011 6:31 am
Hi Neil, It's quite late so I'll give you a more thorough reply soon, but for the moment, I want to say everyone's advice is good. I tend to agree with Dan,...
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alicia h.
zooey_stockholm
Aug 18, 2011 10:04 am
I'm butting out of this discussion now because I've been told I said the wrong things. Maybe I did. In any case, I suck as emotional support and such stuff and...
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winters_diana
Aug 18, 2011 11:49 am
It might help to keep in mind that it is "trolling season" according to Tarjei Straume, a Norwegian anthroposophist who makes it his business to harass critics...
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alicia h.
zooey_stockholm
Aug 18, 2011 11:58 am
Ah, yes. I can't say the thought didn't cross my mind. (I'm posting the rest of this reply on my blog not here...) ... [Non-text portions of this message have...
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winters_diana
Aug 18, 2011 12:19 pm
For the record: IMO Dan's reply is spot on. He is not being cold. If the story is true, the man has a custody battle on his hands. He needs a good lawyer. That...
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Frank Thomas Smith
eltrigal78
Aug 18, 2011 12:44 pm
... F: Probably most do - at least any I've been involved with do. It applies - or should - even in cases or divorce and if only one has education rights. Both...
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Frank Thomas Smith
eltrigal78
Aug 18, 2011 12:48 pm
... ________ I agree that your troll instincts are excellent, Diana. And I see that you suspect this guy Neal of being a troll. So do I. (We agree...again!...
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alicia h.
zooey_stockholm
Aug 18, 2011 12:53 pm
... I've never seen Pete troll, as far as I can remember, perhaps you can refer to an example, Frank. In any case, I doubt a waldorf critic would invent a ...
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winters_diana
Aug 18, 2011 12:57 pm
I could well be wrong, in which case I must seem fairly unfriendly to Neil. If so, I apologize, Neil: there have been a lot of stories similar to yours that...
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alicia h.
zooey_stockholm
Aug 18, 2011 1:00 pm
... That's a very reasonable policy. ... If parents going through divorce were reasonable about these things, rather than busy marking their territories, they...
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winters_diana
Aug 18, 2011 1:05 pm
Neil, Again, I apologize if I doubted your story. Google suggests you're real and your story makes sense. A second piece of advice though: If you're here using...
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alicia h.
zooey_stockholm
Aug 18, 2011 1:28 pm
Members can always delete their own posts from yahoo. (Plans own archives are an other matter of course.) I'm not sure it's really that necessary; there was...
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petekaraiskos
Aug 18, 2011 1:34 pm
If this is a troll, it's my favorite type. Any opportunity to restate publicly the things that actually happened to my family is great as far as I'm...
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petekaraiskos
Aug 18, 2011 1:44 pm
I wouldn't let Tom discredit my story. I'm not about to discredit my own story - Sorry Frank. I've got WAY too much riding on my integrity. ;) And I don't...
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winters_diana
Aug 18, 2011 1:58 pm
... Yes, I forgot about that. ... No, you're right, he didn't say anything alarming, but in general, if you're going to sue somebody, it's probably better not...
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petekaraiskos
Aug 18, 2011 2:01 pm
Also Neil, I'm happy to help ANY parent in this situation in any way I can. Feel free to contact me privately if you think I can be of any help. If your...
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Judith G
candycapshroom
Aug 18, 2011 3:14 pm
I dunno, Alicia's post to Neil didn't seem insensitive to me at all, and, with only the friendliest winking irony intended here, let's say I ought to know...
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Judith G
candycapshroom
Aug 18, 2011 3:20 pm
damn, Alicia, sometimes I am taken aback by how sensitive and insightful you really are! no irony intended here though the situation itself is ironic....
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alicia h.
zooey_stockholm
Aug 18, 2011 6:05 pm
... Correct. And it's much better that this is made clear like this before people post something they regret. Which has happened in the past... (Neil might...
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alicia h.
zooey_stockholm
Aug 18, 2011 6:20 pm
... Thank you. I usually assume I said something really clumsy if someone tells me so, because, well, as you all know, it happens pretty regularly that I do...
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alicia h.
zooey_stockholm
Aug 18, 2011 6:33 pm
Thank you again! I have my moments of sanity and reason, but then random other stuff happens in between ;-) It might be interesting to consider one thing, and...
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Neil
ntieszen
Aug 18, 2011 7:56 pm
I have retained counsel and will see what the courts do as far as those things go. My Ex is telling me that Waldorf informs her that if "I am respectful in my...
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Roger Rawlings
downfromfog
Aug 18, 2011 8:09 pm
Hi, Neil. Here are a few indications of the relative roles of teachers and parents in Waldorf schools. You'll see that many of these indications can easily be...
