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RE: [wc] Rosicrucian Wisdom - was: Re: Anthroposophy in other guises?


We will give it a few days, or maybe a week, to see if there are more takers,
and to give folks a chance to either locate or purchase the print book if they
want. I personally would rather read the print version, but I guess it makes the
most sense to refer to the online version.

Also I'll need a few days to figure out how best to organize my little
mini-course. Anyone should feel free to offer suggestions. Basically I think I
would just put up a summary of the lecture and throw out the points that
interest me, and others could do the same, but I will try to manage the
conversation in terms of the post headings, and perhaps after we're done with
each lecture I can re-post the discussion in edited form (not that I would edit
others' comments, just put them in order and reformat etc.)

I think one lecture per week is best, but am open to all suggestions.

I urge newcomers to join, or Waldorf parents who would like to know what goes on
in Steiner faculty meetings. This is *not* a dense read, it is very lively and
fun. It requires no previous background in anthroposophy. In no time you will be
discoursing on the seven-fold human and the nine-fold human, ancient Atlantis,
the human being in Devachan, and our future lives on Venus and Jupiter.

I will throw this out to whet your appetite. The introduction explains that
Rosicrucianism is the spiritual "stream" personified by Christian Rosenkreuz, a
"lofty" spiritual being who "incarnated" in the 15th century. This
individuality, he explains, incarnated "again and again in the same body." He
assures us that the meaning of this mysterious image will become clear later. I
personally have no idea what the meaning of this might be. I've read this book
at least twice, but I don't remember (normally, of course, one reincarnates in
*different* bodies!!).

... Stay tuned!


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Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:06 pm

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... Yes I think it was something like that. It is definitely not always clear where he is talking about actual planets and where he is talking about spiritual...
Diana Winters
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Jan 13, 2012
12:12 pm

We will give it a few days, or maybe a week, to see if there are more takers, and to give folks a chance to either locate or purchase the print book if they...
Diana Winters
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Jan 13, 2012
1:08 pm

I cannot believe my eyes... are you encouraging anthroposophical literature on this list? And selling books? Is this allowed? I personally have no idea what...
jb_waldorf Offline Send Email Jan 13, 2012
1:27 pm

Of course. Not that Diana is *selling* the book personally. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
alicia h.
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Jan 13, 2012
1:33 pm

Can't you do that on an anthroposophy forum of mail list? Why don't you read decent books on education or the articles on this website? If Diana read the book...
jb_waldorf Offline Send Email Jan 13, 2012
1:46 pm

It's unfortunate that mailing lists are so old-fashioned now that they only attract the trolls. I do think it would be fun with real newcomers on the list, but...
alicia h.
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Jan 13, 2012
2:01 pm

... I don't think he's actually a troll, though I could be wrong (Tarjei is claiming credit, but Tarjei always does). We've had this discussion a number of...
Diana Winters
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Jan 13, 2012
2:08 pm

I honestly have no idea, but not.much separates the trolls from the non-trolls who behave like trolls anyway. I'm happy to be part of the evil anthro...
alicia h.
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Jan 13, 2012
2:14 pm

... Yeah, finally, someone who agrees with me. PK Enough Already!!! http://petekaraiskos.blogspot.com/...
petekaraiskos Offline Send Email Jan 13, 2012
2:56 pm

At least I formulated an opinion you can agree or disagree with. Critize or support, anything, but don't go attacking the person. I think this isn't allowed on...
jb_waldorf Offline Send Email Jan 13, 2012
2:13 pm

Okay it's bullshit. Let's just close the list then. Oh wait, it's Nazism. Anyway let's close the list, we've said all there is to say! To:...
Diana Winters
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Jan 13, 2012
2:17 pm

You should really ask yourself what makes you so upset. If you feel like not being a part of the list, you can always resign yourself. It would be perfectly...
jb_waldorf Offline Send Email Jan 13, 2012
2:26 pm

The AT list isn't a critical list. Why don't you just take some time to figure out what is going on? Honestly. I am not trying to be mean to you. You are in...
Diana Winters
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Jan 13, 2012
2:30 pm

No you didn't. You made unfounded assumptions about people you clearly don't know -- re their reading experience and knowledge possessed by them. That's...
alicia h.
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Jan 13, 2012
2:19 pm

Are you saying you know a lot about AT? Do you read anything apart from AT? I haven't read Steiner, but I am familiar with all he says, it is in no way...
jb_waldorf Offline Send Email Jan 13, 2012
2:35 pm

If you haven't read any Steiner you can't possibly know if the translation of one if his works is bad. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been...
alicia h.
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Jan 13, 2012
2:41 pm

... Because much of what goes on in a Waldorf school is not about pedagogy, in the sense the rest of us understand it. Parents need to be aware of the belief...
Diana Winters
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Jan 13, 2012
3:12 pm

... Did Brad Martin begin trolling suddenly? Oh come on... I'm not the only one thinking it... LOL! PK Enough Already!!! http://petekaraiskos.blogspot.com/...
petekaraiskos Offline Send Email Jan 13, 2012
3:01 pm

... We have a fundamental difference in approach then. I don't think you can criticize something you haven't read, and it is ironic that you consider yourself...
Diana Winters
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Jan 13, 2012
3:11 pm

Hi Johan and welcome, In trying to follow this rather disjointed thread, I'd like to offer to help you with one point. You wrote: "You can have critical...
awaldenpond@...
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Jan 13, 2012
6:38 pm

Hi Walden, 1) Nobody is interested in Rudolf Steiner as such - he was a second-rate philosopher and a clairvoyant mystic, not an educator. 2) Up until now...
jb_waldorf Offline Send Email Jan 13, 2012
8:31 pm

Johan, you wrote, ... Very few, a rhetorical "nobody." ... That is my understanding, also. ... Some of us here have a lot to say about that! ... No doubt. ... ...
Dan Dugan
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Jan 14, 2012
12:53 am

... Hey, maybe our friends at Wikipedia are helping out with that... the harder they work to make Steiner a household name, the more they put him and Waldorf...
petekaraiskos Offline Send Email Jan 14, 2012
1:23 am

On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Dan Dugan <dan@...> wrote ... There are academic studies about so many lesser known writers: Schiller, Schelling,...
Johan Bruyninckx
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Jan 14, 2012
9:34 am

... There are a variety of academic studies of Steiner education. Several of these include attempts at dialogue between Waldorf promoters and scholars of...
Peter Staudenmaier
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Jan 16, 2012
3:34 pm

... I could, but there they wouldn't allow me to critique the book, only to praise it. Get it? (And actually I probably couldn't, because I'm not welcome on...
Diana Winters
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Jan 13, 2012
2:03 pm

Say what? I'm not selling anything. Of course encouraging the reading of anthroposophical literature is allowed on this list - it's one of the main purposes of...
Diana Winters
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Jan 13, 2012
1:50 pm

Well, if you say yourself you're actively promoting the reading of occult literature, I can rest my case. It's almost perverse what you propose: to have...
jb_waldorf Offline Send Email Jan 13, 2012
2:08 pm

"Well, if you say yourself you're actively promoting the reading of occult literature, I can rest my case. It's almost perverse what you propose: to have...
Diana Winters
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Jan 13, 2012
2:13 pm

This was, of course, when he was a Theosophist… -Dan...
Dan Dugan
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Jan 13, 2012
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