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Steampunk & Pulp

The boundaries between Steampunk & Pulp are
pretty blurred, but on the whole I define Steampunk for
my webpage as anything set in the Nineteenth
Century, especially 1850-1900. I also tend to bracket
stuff that influenced Steampunk, especially real-life
scientists like Da Vinci who of course is waaaaaay
pre-Nineteenth Century. There is of course the earlier
nineteenth century novels of Welles, Conan Doyle and Verne
(especially Verne - I love Verne!) that I would include
within the Steampunk genre.<br><br>Anything between
about 1900 and 1960 I would call Pulp. This would
include the Mummy films, and more particularly the
Indiana Jones films that I've always considered
quintessentially pulp.<br><br>Remember - I'm speaking mainly from
a Film & TV perspective - my knowledge of either
genre in comic or novel form is very
limited.<br><br>What do others think?<br><br>Sarah xxx




Fri Oct 12, 2001 6:00 pm

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I'll try to give a disertation on the difference between Steampunk and Pulp in a little bit, though it's certainly possible to have some crossover. Right now...
Dominic_Lopez
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Oct 12, 2001
3:57 pm

The boundaries between Steampunk & Pulp are pretty blurred, but on the whole I define Steampunk for my webpage as anything set in the Nineteenth Century,...
sarahlegend
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Oct 12, 2001
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Steampunk has as much to do with it's attitude as it's setting. The thing that distingushes Steampunk from other stories that are set in or written in the ...
Dominic_Lopez
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Oct 12, 2001
7:25 pm

Excellent points, Dominic, and I agree with much of what you say, especially re: looking forward & back, but surely *both* Steampunk & modern pulp genres ...
sarahlegend
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Oct 12, 2001
8:44 pm

Sure, that's why I was pointing out what the differences are. They must have elemsnts in common or there would be no confusion....
Dominic_Lopez
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Oct 13, 2001
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I am currently researching for a story, and it would be helpful if other club members could provide me all of the vampire detectives, detectives connected to...
shadethefaintingman
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Oct 13, 2001
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Just to add $0.02...<br><br>Victorian Steampunk tends to be set in the Victorian (1937-1901) and Edwardian (1901-1914) eras. Before that, in the time period ...
Palaeogothica
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Oct 13, 2001
2:30 pm

I think you meant *1837* - 1901 for Victorian era Cory!? ;-)<br><br>Cory added two cents, so, just to be British I'll add thrupence...<br><br>There's...
sarahlegend
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Oct 13, 2001
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&gt;&gt;&gt;I think you meant *1837* - 1901 for Victorian era Cory!? ;-)&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br>Yes... yes I did...^_^<br><br>And yes, there is a Sailpunk. Some...
Palaeogothica
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Oct 14, 2001
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Well put, Dominic. This what I was getting at earlier. <br><br>Both genres owe a lot to H. Rider Haggard, A. Conan Doyle, Verne, Welles and other early writers...
blaen_495
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Oct 14, 2001
9:20 pm

Whoops, my original posting of this didn't go through. Here it is.<br><br>--dave<br><br><br>I would add that Pulp emphasizes the fantastic and heroic, Robert ...
blaen_495
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Oct 14, 2001
9:31 pm

Cool discussion. I'd simply add, as others have said, that the difference between steampunk and pulp is largely one of attitude. <br><br>Steampunk often...
khart60
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Oct 17, 2001
8:11 pm

I have also found the comparison between Pulp and Steampunk interesting. So being new to Steampunk can some one explain the differance between Steampunk and ...
pdwmcdonald
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Oct 17, 2001
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&gt;In my mind Steampunk is just a sub-genre of VSF, so you all agree?<br><br>Yes, to a point. Stories such as "The Time Machine" are works of Victorian SF ...
khart60
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Oct 17, 2001
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Thanks, Ken<br><br>Peter...
pdwmcdonald
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Oct 17, 2001
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All I know about vampires and detectives is the short story "Sherlock Holmes and the case of the Sussex Vampire" by AC Doyle.<br>Note however that the term ...
ennobie
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Oct 17, 2001
11:29 pm

I have to agree with Dominic just as well in that the Victorian SCience-fiction is essentially looking forward, while the modern steampunk is looking...
ennobie
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Oct 17, 2001
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Check out Barbara Hambley's "Those Who Hunt the Night" it features Vampires and detectives in Victorian England. Ther is a sequel but I forget the name of it...
blaen_495
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Oct 18, 2001
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If you're looking outside of the steampunk genre as well, there are a few more options:<br><br>-- Fred Saberhagen's Dracula series, starting with "The ...
khart60
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Oct 18, 2001
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There is also a movie called Vampire Cop.<br><br>I invite those interested in such things to join The International Vampire Hunters' Guild<br><a...
Dominic_Lopez
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Oct 18, 2001
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A good vampire detective series is written by P. N. Elrod, called "The Vampire Files". It is about a reporter in the roaring 20's who becomes a vampire and ...
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Oct 18, 2001
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&gt;&gt;&gt;In my mind Steampunk is just a sub-genre of VSF, so you all agree?&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br>Actually, not really. Victorian Science Fiction (or ...
Palaeogothica
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Oct 19, 2001
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Thanks everyone for some very enlightening discussions. I didn't realize that the other genre I enjoy is pulp. Though what I seem to be drawn to is...
stephanieganger
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Oct 19, 2001
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I have read many attempts at defining what the Steampunk genre is.<br><br>I think Cory's is more accurate than most but notice in his explanation the edges...
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Oct 19, 2001
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Thank you all For your wonderful imput....
shadethefaintingman
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Oct 19, 2001
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&gt;&gt;&gt;I think Cory's is more accurate than most but notice in his explanation the edges that define Steampunk are fuzzy to say the ...
Palaeogothica
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Oct 19, 2001
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;This is a hobby for cripes' sake, not chemistry! The borders are allowed<br> to be a little fuzzy^_^&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br>I agree - I like fuzzy!...
sarahlegend
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Oct 19, 2001
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&gt;Or in our case, it should include everything but Bachalo's comic^_^<br><br>Yeah, what is the deal with that?! :-) After joining this group recently and ...
khart60
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Oct 19, 2001
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Okay, I am going to most likely regret asking this. What Bachalo's comic and why is it so bad. Shuttering in anticipation.<br><br>Peter...
pdwmcdonald
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Oct 19, 2001
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Chris Bachalo gained fame in the comics world a few years back as the penciller of Marvel's "Generation X" and later "Uncanny X-Men" itself. His style took...
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