Does anyone know the differences between hydrogen and
helium in lifting power? How much of each would you
need to lift, say, 1 pound. I need the info for an
idea I have for an airship. Thanks.
I guess you're right--when people label Avril Lavigne "punk", you know that things are askew. -C ... From: steampunk2@yahoogroups.com...
CKatM
neurokat@...
Dec 22, 2005 4:45 am
Does anyone know the differences between hydrogen and helium in lifting power? How much of each would you need to lift, say, 1 pound. I need the info for an ...
I've been doing a lot of thinking, mainly with using zeppelins in a campaign during a war. Now, with WW1, all they were were bombers and there was some use ...
My answer to the problem would be to disregard reality and go with what looks spectacular. The anime film by Hayao Miyazaki, Castle In The Sky (or Laputa) has...
... The main constraint derives from the low density of air compared to water (about 1/784th). Using hydrogen lift, you need about 900 times the volume of ship...
I'm looking at two ways of saying that this could be possible. Concieve of some different type of gas, or modifying helium or hydrogen so that it lifts more....
... It would be much less. Not the gas, but the _air_ is lifting an airship. And as air is that thin ... With hydrogen, you're using 27/29th of the lifting...
As far as I'm concerned, I have to disagree. In order for it to achieve a reasonable level of believability for me, Steampunk must use existing technology,...
... achieve a reasonable level of believability for me, Steampunk must use existing technology It seems to me that everyone is comfortable with their own...
... of ... Amen to that. ... historic ... could ... a ... I would. And if you got some non-expensive, light-weight armour, there's no way to restrict its use...
The problem is, helium wasn't discovered until 1895 and wasn't available in any sort of quantity until after WW1. If the name steampunk is to have any meaning...
... You're remembering that I was replying to the idea of using a cold plasma of some noble gas (and helium is the noble gas discovered _first_, and from the...
... wrote: To me the steampunk world is based on Victorian scientific theory and Victorian reality. If we add fantasy, it just goes beyond the mandate that I...
Since I started this and have been away for some time, I would like to add my thoughts. Since I do want something that is feasible, I realize that having a ...
... That's rather hair-splitting pedantism. The Victorians believed in ghosts. Many believed that ectoplasm and etherial reverberations could be measured and...
... From: Baralier "That's rather hair-splitting pedantism." That doesn't matter. What I decide is right for me is right for me, and I'll advocate it for...
... wrote: I'm not trying to beat anyone over the head with my ideas Ian or Elizabeth (I wish I knew who), we all realize that the content of our post are...
As I understand it, that's right. Ether is a property of space. It's not like a gas. ... From: Michael Fischer "IMO that's not a valid view of the ether of...
... No I think this is a discussion by some-one whom I've not seen supposedly being careful with his use of "in my opinion". I don't mind people discussin...
For a somewhat different concept (compared to LZ129 Hindenburg) of real large airships, you might have a look on the LoftyCruiser project. The form of the...
... IMO this depends on how realistic you want to go. If we're talking 1870s or 1880s, helium wasn't known. Even if you pre-date the discovery (1895), you...
Hi. I am under the impression that 'Fitzpatrick's War' by Theodore Judson has airship warfare in it. I have it, but haven't read it yet However, there may be...
Terrance Wollin
trwollin@...
Dec 30, 2005 5:25 pm
I've read the book, and while I liked it, it is a bit light for steampunk inspiration. It's worth reading, but there isnt a lot of airship warfare, though...
Here is a good reference on the lifting power of various lighter then air systems: http://www.chem.hawaii.edu/uham/lift.html Why it seems to be common...
... This was never done (and most probably won't ever be done) on an industrial scale - it's too expensive. Nowadays hydrogen is gained from the reforming of...
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