This is an open group for all you Victorian men (Victoria, British Columbia, Canada)who have been pussified or mislead by society into taking society's rules of male female interaction at face value. Or in other words, you are a 'nice guy' and can't get laid and you want to learn how to lay women.

Fair enough, we call this the art of seduction. Seduction is a skill that must be learned and practiced, like tennis or cooking, and the reality of it is that what society has taught you was just plain wrong. We are here to help.

We have two rules 1) this is not a competition, we are here to help each other and 2) YOU MUST BE WILLING TO TRY.

To join, you must apply for membership and then you will be asked for more information about yourself and perhaps a phone call will follow, just to make sure that your inclusion will be good for the group. What we have been doing lately is that we are asking prospective new members to come to a meeting, which is help every month or two, so we get to meet you before we let you in. You'll be notified of these meetings if you put in a request to join.

So if your reminiscing about your nice guy past is about to drive you to suicide or, if your dong is turning orange because all you do is eat cheesies and watch naked girls on the internet then...

We'll see you inside.

[Note: if you attempt to join, please ensure that there is an email address on your Yahoo account that we can view to contact you with.]