Dear all, Our March topic is CLASSROOM LANGUAGE or English for instruictional purposes suggested by Wuli, Yuyun and Tien Nugroho. In foreign language teaching...
Dear Helena and All, Indeed teachers of E ... _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows...
Dear colleagues. Â I used to handle all English major students and as I train teachers across the Philippines, I always remind every one that teachers in the...
Dear Dr. Helena, Prof. Castro and others  I agree that teachers of ESL and EFL should not use L1 as a language for instruction to teach L2. They should use...
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Gloria Poedjosoedarmo
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Mar 4, 2010 8:34 am
Hi Helena and all, Â I think when we learn any language - first second or whatever - when we do so successfully, what we have really done is memorised scripts...
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Gloria Poedjosoedarmo
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Mar 4, 2010 8:56 am
For teaching young children, I agree that the instruction should be totally in the target language. If the lessons are well-planned and engaging with lots of...
Dear Bu Helena and all, I would like to share with you about a course called 'Speaking for Instructional Purposes'. In Semarang State University, Indonesia -...
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RENANDYA Willy Ardian...
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Mar 5, 2010 5:58 am
Dear All, Yes, teacher proficiency is a concern. I met a couple of TESOL professors from Korea the other day and asked them if teachers proficiency was an...
Dear All I agree with what Willy said. From what i've witnessed so far in Korea, there is a large gap between communicative and test items answering skills....
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Gloria Poedjosoedarmo
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Mar 5, 2010 7:24 am
Hi Willy and all, It is an interesting and important area, but how do you determine proficiency? IELTS isn't a bad test as tests go, but it doesn't...
Dear Dr. Gloria and all, Â Yes, there is such serious issue in our places of EFL of ELT education in Cambodia. In the past some institutes recruited new...
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Gloria Poedjosoedarmo
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Mar 5, 2010 9:24 am
Hi Narith and all,  Yes, I agree absolutely. The ideal teacher should speak English clearly and accurately . . . and spontaneously . . AND . . . should be...
Dear All, I guess our problems with English will be here to stay for a long while yet. At least we continue to strive to make the best out of it. It is...
Dear Pak Willy, I am also interested in doing the research of teachers' proficiency. I think there are some factors why most teachers (like in Indonesia) are...
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RENANDYA Willy Ardian...
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Mar 6, 2010 11:20 pm
Hi Narith, In some countries that I know of, candidates go through a rigorous selection process: 1. they need to get their teaching certificate from approved...
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Gloria Poedjosoedarmo
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Mar 7, 2010 12:39 am
Dear Willy, Narith and all, If it's countries other than Malaysia, Brunei and Singapore, which I already know about more or less, I'm interested! Please...
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RENANDYA Willy Ardian...
willy.renandya@...
Mar 7, 2010 1:26 am
Hi Gloria, I'm referring to Korea. My source came from the same two TESOL professors who visited NIE a couple of months ago. I suppose the stringent selection...
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RENANDYA Willy Ardian...
willy.renandya@...
Mar 7, 2010 1:39 am
Dear All, It's a fact that you can't learn everything during your pre-service training. So, in-service professional development can help beginning teachers...
Dear Willy and all, I have some experience to train teachers of Islamic schools in Jakarta. Those teachers have the tendency of using ineffective classroom...
Agreed that research is a good idea. As one who teaches in Korea, the issues of teacher fluency (however defined) is an issue. but folks are ignoring the...
I've found that the type of Classroom English detailed in Willis and elsewhere tends to be directed at young learners, is not lifelike (very direct, not what...
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Gloria Poedjosoedarmo
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Mar 7, 2010 9:56 am
Thanks, Willy. That's interesting. I wonder what current trends in other parts of east Asia are . . Cheers, Gloria ... From: RENANDYA Willy Ardian (ELL)...
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Gloria Poedjosoedarmo
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Mar 7, 2010 10:05 am
My thinking may be out of sinc with everyone else's but I think proficiency has to come first before pedagogy. The advantages of this, I think, are two-fold:...
Dear Dr. Willy, Dr. Gloria, and all, No research has been done about the current development of uses of English in Cambodia though Clayton (2006) has...
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Gloria Poedjosoedarmo
gloriapsg@...
Mar 7, 2010 10:12 am
Speaking of how we can really learn a foreign language in a classroom, when I studied Indonesian at Cornell University in the 1960's, we had to memorise...
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Gloria Poedjosoedarmo
gloriapsg@...
Mar 7, 2010 10:45 am
We learn a language effectively - whether our first language as a child or another language later in life - when we are forced to interact in it. I remember...
Dear Bambang and all, I'm the PIC of RSBI school. We are in the third year now. Based on my experiance, it will be more effective in training science and...
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RENANDYA Willy Ardian...
willy.renandya@...
Mar 8, 2010 12:33 am
Thanks, Narith. I went to PUC a few years ago attending the CamTESOL and was impressed by the resources that the university had. What is level 4 like? Is it a...
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RENANDYA Willy Ardian...
willy.renandya@...
Mar 8, 2010 12:56 am
Gloria, I like what you said about watching videos with subtitles again and again. In particular, the again and again part. I think this is one key ingredient...
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Gloria Poedjosoedarmo
gloriapsg@...
Mar 8, 2010 1:47 am
Hi, Willy, Yes, I agree with everything you say. For language acquisition questions, though I know a lot of useful research has been done under...
