Hello Shaun, thanks for the reply. It would be good if you had posted your
reply to a forum where I could respond, because public debate could be most
useful in this discussion. Nonetheless, yes, you are correct that I became
abusive toward you and Bob, the moderators of General Blending Discussion
forum on biodiesel.infopop, although I was nowhere as abusive to you two as
Patrick has been to me. I called you two "Useless ass holes," because I had
been complaining to you about Patrick Kennedy for weeks, and the two of you
had done nothing nor responded to my requests in a positive way to get rid
of Mr. Kennedy.

Yes, I know very well how to handle disagreements with others, But, when you
suggest that I do not, then I know that neither you nor Bob have ever cared
that Patrick Kennedy had been threatening my life and had sent me horribly
abusive messages for the last 2 years, not just for the last few weeks. And,
on top of that, he had been exposed as just a poser. I sure did not feel
like you two gave a damn about my safety or the integrity of a blended fuels
dialog on your forum. And, now that you two have banned me, the person who
actually engages in blended fuels, while keeping Patrick, the abusive/poser,
then you two put the whole General Blending Discussion forum on
biodiesel.infopop on moderation, it just looks like you two are biodiesel
advocates who are threatened by a blended fuels dialog, so you are trying to
kill dialog on mixed fuels, just like Patrick Kennedy is, and you and Simon
Wass have succeeded in doing so on your respective forums.

I have started my own forum on blended fuels because it has been my
experience that blenders are not going to be treated with respect on any
forum, and certainly not biodiesel.infopop, nor veggoil-diesel. I believe I
do know how to run a forum, because I have been running them on Yahoo groups
for more than five years, and I do not tolerate abusive people on my forums
at all. If you want to run a forum where there is no abusive behavior you
have to have a zero tolerance for it, and you have to find the person who is
the cause of it. I am not the cause of abuse on your forum, Patrick Kennedy
is.

Yes, I have Patrick Kennedy's messages going into my SPAM filter, but I
regularly check my SPAM container, because important email sometimes goes in
there. So, when I check my SPAM bin I occasionally see a message from
Patrick Kennedy, but if you think that your responsibility stops at
recommending people use their SPAM filter and ignore the messages on your
forum from posers and trolls, like Patrick Kennedy, then I would say your
moderation style is certainly not serving the mixed fuels community.

Sources:

veggie_fuel_blennders
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veggie_fuel_blennders

Forum Politics that is suppressive of blended fuels
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veggie_fuel_blennders/message/53

Blending Trolls and their sock puppets
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veggie_fuel_blennders/message/49

The abusive Patrick Kennedy continues
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veggie_fuel_blennders/message/52

Forums where dialog on mixed fuels is not tolerated:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/vegoil-diesel

Forums where dialog on mixed fuels is suppressed:
biodiesel at infopop forum
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/frm/f/9751014871

Best regards, Jeff Brooks


on 8/12/08 7:21 PM, Bio-Beetle Eco Rental Cars at info@... wrote:

> Jeffrey,
>
> You seem to be practicing a double standard. You are abusive towards me and
> The Trouts, but it's not okay for Patrick to be abusive towards you. What
> kind of nonsense is that.
>
> I think the best thing for you is to go start your own blending forum, since
> you think you know how to best run a successful forum, and then you can
> control who posts. Also, if you want to stop receiving email from certain
> people, like spam or Patrick, you can create a filter so you don't even see
> those emails. And when you start your own forum you can also either ban
> people you don't get along with or put them on your ignore list so you don't
> see what they are posting.
>
> Unfortunately, you clearly do not know how to handle disagreements with
> others, so you are no longer welcome on the biodiesel.infopop.cc forums.
> Your account has been permanently suspended.
>
> Like I said, go start you own forum since you seem to know the best way to
> run one.
>
> Shaun
> administrator
> www.biodiesel.infopop.cc
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeffrey S. Brooks" <jhanananda@...>
> To: "simon wass" <simon.wass@...>; <info@...>
> Cc: "Patrick Kennedy" <mixelpix86@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:00 PM
> Subject: The abusive Patrick Kennedy
>
>
>> Hello Simon and the moderators of Biodiesel at infopop. As you can see
>> below, Patrick Kennedy continues to harass me off-list. If you examine
>> the
>> history and content of Patrick Kennedy's messages I believe you will find
>> that he is clearly a very sick individual. Being a victim of this
>> individual's obsessive abuses it is rather surprising to me that neither
>> Simon Wass of veggoil-diesel, nor Bob (The Trouts) and Shaun, the
>> moderators
>> of Biodiesel.infopop seem to have any concern at all for their members.
>>
>> It would seem if the moderators of these forums wanted their forums to
>> succeed over time, they would come up with a way to police their
>> membership.
>> And, it seems like an appropriate way to police the membership is to
>> remove
>> the posting privileges of the most abusive members, such as Patrick
>> Kennedy.
>>
>> I have documented Patrick Kennedy's behavior and the strange moderating
>> practices of Simon Wass of veggoil-diesel, nor Bob (The Trouts) and Shaun,
>> the moderators of Biodiesel.infopop. You can find all of this at the
>> following URLs. Membership is not required to view these documents.
>>
>> Forum Politics that is suppressive of blended fuels
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veggie_fuel_blennders/message/53
>>
>> Blending Trolls and their sock puppets
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veggie_fuel_blennders/message/49
>>
>> The abusive Patrick Kennedy continues
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veggie_fuel_blennders/message/52
>>
>> Forums where dialog on mixed fuels is not tolerated:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/vegoil-diesel
>>
>> Forums where dialog on mixed fuels is suppressed:
>> biodiesel at infopop forum
>> http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/frm/f/9751014871
>>
>> <<From: Patrick Kennedy <mixelpix86@...>
>> Reply-To: <mixelpix86@...>
>> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:43:51 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: "Jeffrey S. Brooks" <jhanananda@...>
>> Subject: Mixed Fuels Dialogue
>>
>> Oh, what is this - it looks like you have been banned from yet another
>> community which doesn't care for either your lack of technical prowess or
>> your petulant narcissism? Go figure...
>>
>> Have fun with your blennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnders!>>
>>
>> Best regards, Jeff Brooks
>>
>>
>
>