Respected Sir,

I am highly thankful for your response. I am new to this group, But I am digging
the posts discussed in this group and I really find them useful. I am lucky to
be associated with this group.

With Regards
Atul

Atulji,

It is difficult to interpret any dictum without reference to the classics. PVRji
is a good astrologer and he must have mentioned this based on his own
observation. As far as I can tell, we need to take into consideration both the
natural and functional properties of planets. If you have been following this
thread, we see mention of shubha/papa and saumya/kroora which imply both
properties of the planets.

Regards,
bhagavathi


--- In vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. A. Bhatla"
<astrologytree@...> wrote:
>
> Respected Bhagavathi Ji,
>
> I don't have any scripture reference. I heard this in respected PVR ji's
online audio classes. I am using this rule in interpretation since last 6 months
and it seems quite effective. But I find that they seem to exchange roles by
natural malefience most of the time, but sometimes it seems to functional
properties working.
>
> I use divisional charts heavily, and it seems to work in divisional charts
quite well.
>
> Respected Bhagavathi ji, I don't have any other reference except that.
>
> With Regards
> Atul
>
> --- In vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com, "bhagavathi_hariharan"
<bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote:
>
> Atulji,
>
> Could you please give the original verse for this or the reference for this
concept. That would help in interpreting further.
>
>  Regards,
> bhagavathi
>
>
> > --- In vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com, "CandiShorty96804"
<astrologytree@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Respected Seniors,
> > >
> > > As per rule, when two planets are together they tend to exchange their
roles. i.e x planet will give results of y and y will give results of X.
> > >
> > > when more than two planets are together, then we arrange them in order of
most benefic to most malefic in increasing order, and then 1st planet will
exchange results with last one, 2nd will exchange with second last one and so
on.
> > >
> > > Respected Seniors, I want to ask that when we arrange them in order of
increasing malefic properties, should we use their natural malefic properties or
functional malefic properties?
> > >
> > > I will be thankful
> > >
> > > With regards
> > >
> > > Atul
> > > www.AstrologyTree.net
> > > www.AstrologyTreeForum.net
> > >
> >
>

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

90 sampadayet tada kashtam tat viparyayagaminam
Dashesha akranta bhavarkshat arambhya dwadasharkshakam

The results will be adverse during the subperiods of inimical planets. There are
12 antara dashas commencing from the rashi in which the lord of the dasha is
placed

91 bhaktva dwadasharashinam dashabhukti prakalpayet
Eka ekarasherya tatra suhrut swakshetragamini

The effects of the 12 antara dashas of a rashi are as follows. If the antara
dasha of a rashi are occupied by its friendly or own planet

92 tasyam rajya adi sampatti purvakam shubhamirayet
Duhsthana ripugehasthani cha kroorayuta cha ya

During that time, there will be acquisition of a kingdom, wealth and auspicious
effects. If the rashi happens to be 6/8/12 or is occupied by malefics

93 tasyam anartha kalaham rogamrityu bhayaadikam
Bindubhuyastvashunyatvavashat sweeyashtavarge

There will be adverse happenings, quarrels, diseases, excessive fear and death. 
The status of bindus, whether more or zero are also to be considered for the
rashi

94 vriddhim hanim cha tad rashibhavasya swagruhatkramat
Bhavayojanaya vidyatsutastryadishubha ashubham

To assess the gain or loss of a house significance, the dasha commencing from a
rashi is considered as the first (similar to lagna), from there the other bhavas
such as 4th, 5th etc are counted and then the auspicious and inauspicious
effects are determined

95 dhatu adi rashibhedat cha dhatu adi grahayogatah
Shubha papanasha bhedat cha shubhapapayutairapi

There will be gain or loss of dhatus etc, of the rashis and the planets in
accordance with the association with benefic or malefic planets

96 ishtanishtasthanabhedat phalabhedat samunnayet
Evam sarvagrahanam cha swam swam antardasham api

These favorable and adverse effects are obtained durng  the antara dashas of the
planets also.

97 swarashito rashibhuktim prakalpya phalameerayet
Antarantardasham sweeyam vibhajyaivam punah punah

Thus, the results of the antara dasha are predicted from the dasha rashi. The
results of sub periods of the antara dashas (pratyantara) are assessed in the
same manner

This concludes chapter 50 of BPHS, next………..

Respected Bhagavathi Ji,

I don't have any scripture reference. I heard this in respected PVR ji's online
audio classes. I am using this rule in interpretation since last 6 months and it
seems quite effective. But I find that they seem to exchange roles by natural
malefience most of the time, but sometimes it seems to functional properties
working.

I use divisional charts heavily, and it seems to work in divisional charts quite
well.

Respected Bhagavathi ji, I don't have any other reference except that.

With Regards
Atul

--- In vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com, "bhagavathi_hariharan"
<bhagavathi_hariharan@...> wrote:

Atulji,

Could you please give the original verse for this or the reference for this
concept. That would help in interpreting further.

  Regards,
bhagavathi


> --- In vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com, "CandiShorty96804"
<astrologytree@> wrote:
> >
> > Respected Seniors,
> >
> > As per rule, when two planets are together they tend to exchange their
roles. i.e x planet will give results of y and y will give results of X.
> >
> > when more than two planets are together, then we arrange them in order of
most benefic to most malefic in increasing order, and then 1st planet will
exchange results with last one, 2nd will exchange with second last one and so
on.
> >
> > Respected Seniors, I want to ask that when we arrange them in order of
increasing malefic properties, should we use their natural malefic properties or
functional malefic properties?
> >
> > I will be thankful
> >
> > With regards
> >
> > Atul
> > www.AstrologyTree.net
> > www.AstrologyTreeForum.net
> >
>

Atulji,

Could you please give the original verse for this or the reference for this
concept. That would help in interpreting further.

Regards,
bhagavathi



--- In vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com, "CandiShorty96804"
<astrologytree@...> wrote:
>
> Respected Seniors,
>
> As per rule, when two planets are together they tend to exchange their roles.
i.e x planet will give results of y and y will give results of X.
>
> when more than two planets are together, then we arrange them in order of most
benefic to most malefic in increasing order, and then 1st planet will exchange
results with last one, 2nd will exchange with second last one and so on.
>
> Respected Seniors, I want to ask that when we arrange them in order of
increasing malefic properties, should we use their natural malefic properties or
functional malefic properties?
>
> I will be thankful
>
> With regards
>
> Atul
> www.AstrologyTree.net
> www.AstrologyTreeForum.net
>

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

Ati ucche api ati neechasthe madhyagasya avarohini

A planet in a condition in between deep exaltation and deep debilitation, it is
referred to as "avarohini".

82 mitra ucchabhava praptasya madhyakhya syarthada dasha
neechatantat ucchabhagantam bhashatke madhyagasya cha

The planet in a friendly or exaltation sign is (Madhya) of the middle order. The
dasha period of such a planet is also moderate. The dasha of a planet in between
deep debilitation and deep exaltation is called "arohini".

(Note: verses 81-83, the reference is to the condition of planets called
avarohanam or descending, that is from exaltation to debilitation and arohanam
or ascending, that is from debilitation to exaltation)

83 dasha cha arohini neecha ripubhanshagatasya cha
Adhamakhya bhaya klesha vyadhi duhkha vivardhini
84 namanurupaphaladah pakakale dasha imah

The dasha of a planet in its debilitation, inimical sign or navansh is called
"adhama". During this period there will be increase in fear, quarrels, diseases,
grief  etc. The results will be in accordance with their nomencalture

Bhagyesha guruh sambandho yogadrik kendrabhadibhih
85 para ishamapi dayeshu bhagyaupakramamunnayet

If the 9th lord and Jupiter are related by way of a "yog" Kendra etc., even the
dasha period of other planets augments the fortune

Jatakah yastu phalado bhagyayogaprado atha yah
86 saphalo vakrimat urdhvam anyanapi cha khecharan
Durbalanasamarthash cha phaladaneshu yagatah

The dasha of a planet with yog of good fortune at birth will produce good
effects, when he is free from retrogression and become direct.  In judging the
effects, the weakness, inabilities and yogas of other planets in the chart
should also be considered.

(Note: I assume here that the verse is talking about the dasha period of a
planet that is "vakri" in the chart)

87 taratamyatsu sambandha dasha hyetah phalapradah
Swakendradijusham tesham purna ardha adi vyavasthaya

The dasha gives full, medium or negligible effects as per the dispositon of
planets in Kendra, panaphara and apoklima

88 sheershodayabhagah swaswadashadau swaphalapradah
Ubhayodayarashisthadasha madhyaphalaprada

Planets in shirosadaya rashi give their effects at the commencement of the
dasha, the planets in ubhayodaya rashi, give theire effects in the middle of the
dasha

89 prishtodayarkshagah khetah swadashante phalapradah
Nisargatah cha tatkale suhrudam harane shubham

The planets in prishtodaya rashi give their effects towards the end of the
dasha. All planets yield auspicious results during the sub periods of natural
and temporary friends

To continue….

Dear all,

Please read this verse as

// Atineechagatasyapi durbalasya grahasya tu
  81 rikta tvanishtaphalada vyadhi anyatha mritiprada//

Atineecha............. vyadhi "anartha" mritiprada and not anyatha

Thank you
bhagavathi



> If the planet is weak and in deep debilitation, the dasha of such a planet is
referred to as "rikta". There will be losses, diseases and danger from death
>
> To continue…
>

Respected Seniors,

As per rule, when two planets are together they tend to exchange their roles.
i.e x planet will give results of y and y will give results of X.

when more than two planets are together, then we arrange them in order of most
benefic to most malefic in increasing order, and then 1st planet will exchange
results with last one, 2nd will exchange with second last one and so on.

Respected Seniors, I want to ask that when we arrange them in order of
increasing malefic properties, should we use their natural malefic properties or
functional malefic properties?

I will be thankful

With regards

Atul
www.AstrologyTree.net
www.AstrologyTreeForum.net

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

73 eka eka udu dasha sweeyaih gunaih ashtadashatmabhi
Bhinnam phalavipakam tu kuryadwaiy chitrasanyutam

Each and every nakshatra based dasha depend on 18 different conditions. These
are as follows

74 parama ucche, tungamatre, tadarvakta duparyapi
Moolatrikonabhe swarkshe swadhimitragrahasya bhe

Deep exaltation, exaltation, dispositions on either side, moolatrikona, own,
adhimitra,

75 tatkala suhrudo gehe udaseenasya bhe tatha
Shartorbhe adhiriporbhe cha neechantat urdhvadeshabhe

Tatkal mitra, neutral, enemy, adhishatru, conditions of debilitation such as

76 tasmadarvang neechamatra neechante paramanshake
Neecha arivarge sakhale swavarge kendrakonabhe

deep debilitation, debilitation,  enemy's varg, own varga, placement in Kendra, 
trikona

77 vyavasthitasya khetasya samare peedistasya cha
Gadhapudhasya cha dashapachitih swagunaih phalam

Planetary war and combustion. These are to be analyzed in depth for  deriving
the effects

78 paramocchagato yastu yo ati veerya samanvitah
Sampoornakhya dasha tasya rajyabhogya shubhaprada

If a planet is in deep exaltation and endowed with great strength, then during
the entire dasha period, there will be acquisition of kingdom, enjoyment and
auspicious effects

79 lakshmikatakshachinhanam chiravasagruhaprada
Tungamatra gatsyapi tatha veeryadhikasya cha
80 purnakhya bahula aishwarya adi anyapi rujaprada

A planet in exaltation and great strength, will bestow during his dasha period
great wealth, dwelling in old house,  opulence and affliction due to diseases

Atineechagatasyapi durbalasya grahasya tu
81 rikta tvanishtaphalada vyadhi anyatha mritiprada

If the planet is weak and in deep debilitation, the dasha of such a planet is
referred to as "rikta". There will be losses, diseases and danger from death

To continue…

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

64 Yasmad dashamabhe rahuh punyateerthatanam bhavet
Yasmat karma aya bhagayarkshagatah shobhana khecharah
65 vidya artha dharma satkarma khyati paurusha siddhayah

If Rahu be in the 10th house to the rashi whose dasha is running, there will be
pilgrimage. If the 9th, 10th and 11th from the rashi is occupied by benefics,
the native will attain learning, wealth, religious and pious duty and will be
renowned for good deeds and attain success in ventures

Yatah panchama kamaadi gatah swa uccha shubha grahah
66 putra dara adi sampraptih nrupa puja mahattara

If the 5th and 7th houses from the dasha rashi be occupied by benefics or
exalted planets, there will be gain of wife, children and recognition by the
government.

Yasmat putra aya karma ambu nava lagnadhipa sthitah
67 tat tat bhava artha siddih syat shreyo yoganusaratah

During the dasha of a rashi occupied by the lords of the 5th, 11th, 10th , 4th ,
9th and  the lagna, there will be growth of these bhavas according to the
favorable combinatiuons of these (yogas)

Yasmin guruh va shukroh va shubhesha va api sansthitah
68Kalyanam sarvasampattira devabrahmanatarpanam

If the dasha rashi be occupied by Jupiter or venus or the lord of a trine, there
will be well-being, increase in opulence, devotion to Gods and Brahmins

Yatchaturthe tunga khetah shubhaswami grahah cha va
69 vahana grama labhah cha pashu vriddih cha bhuyasi
Tatra chandre cha labhah syat bahudha anyarasanvitah

If there be exalted planets and or the lord of a trine to the 4th of the dasha
rashi, there will be gain of vehicle, village, cattle and land. If the moon be
in such a position, there will be gain of different things like ghee etc.

70 purne vidhau nidhipraptih labhet va manisanjayam
Tatra shukre mridanga adi vadya gana puraskrutah

If a full moon be positioned in the 4th from the dasha rashi, there will be gain
of treasure and jewels . Venus present in such a position makes the native
distinguished in mridanga or other musical instruments

71 andolika aptih jeeve tu kanakandolika dhruvam
Lagnakarmesha bhagyesha tungastha shubhayogatah

If the 4th from the dasha rashi is occupied by Jupiter, the native will enjoy
vehicle like palanquin. If the lords of the lagna, 9th, 10th, an exalted planet
and benefic planets form a yoga pertaining to the dasha of the rashi

72 sarva utkarsha maha aishwarya samrajya adi mahatphalam
Evam tat tat bhava adi phalam yat syat vichatayet

There will be all round progress, great opulence, glory and acquisition of
kingdom. The effects of each bhava of the dasha rashi should be judged in this
manner

To continue….

Sri Ganeshaya namah:

51 chandrashukrau dwadasha chet rajakopo bhavet dhruvam
Bhauma ketu tatra yadi vadha agneh mahati vyatha

If Venus and moon be in the 12th house, there will be displeasure due to the
government. If mars and ketu be in the 12th, there will be death or danger from
fire

52 chandra shukrau dhane vipra yadi rajyam prayacchatah
Dasharambhe dashante cha dwitiyastham idam phalam

If moon and venus be in the 2nd house, there will be acquisition of kingdom. If
this position be at  at the commencement or at the end of the dasha, similar
results will be felt

53 evam argalabhavanam phalam vigyaihi pradarshitam
Yasya papah shubhau va api grahah tishtet subhargale

In this way, the effects of the houses with argala have also been told.  If an
auspicious argala prevails in a house  which is either benefic or malefic

54 tena drashtrekshite lagnam pabalyaya upakalpyate
  Yadi pashyet grahah tatra viparita argala sthitah

If the lagna is aspected by this benefic argala, that rashi will prevail. If a
house is aspected   by planets, where "viparita argala" prevails

55 tadbhavasya dashayastu viparitaphalam bhavet
Saddrishte api shubham bruyat nirvishankam dwijottama

The dasha period of that house will give reverse effects. If good planets
aspect, then benefic effects will prevail, without any doubt, O Brahmin

56 yasmin bhave shubha swami sambandhah tunga khecharah
Syat tad bhavadashayam tu antye aishwaryam akhanditam

If a house is associated with a benefic lord or with an exalted planet, the end
of the dasha period of that house will bestow lasting wealth

57 yad bhaveshah swa artha rashi madhi tishtati pashyati
Syat tad bhavadasha kale dhanalabho mahattarah

If the lord of the 2nd house be placed or aspect the 10th house, that dasha
period will give great wealth

(Note: "artha" rashi, I am not sure whether this also means the 6th house
besides 2nd house)

58 yasmat vyayagato yastu tad dashayam dhanakshayah
Yasmat trikonagah papah tatra atmashubha nashanam

There will be depletion of wealth if such a house is associated with 12th house.
There will be destruction to self and all auspicious effects, if there be
malefic in trines to this house

59 putrahanih pituh peeda manastapo mahan bhavet
Yasmat trikonaga rihpha randhresha arka ara suryajah

There will be loss of children and great distress to father, misunderstandings,
if the lords of 12th, 8th, Sun, Mars and Saturn be in trines to the house

60 putrapeeda dravyahanih tatra ketu ahi sangame
Videshabhramanam klesho bhayam cha eva pade pade

The dasha of a house will cause distress to children, loss of wealth, if
Rahu-ketu be in that house ( I assume the nodal axis  along the house). There
will gradually be wandering in foreign lands, quarrels and fear


61 tasmat shashtha ashtame kroora neecha kheta adayah sthitah
Roga shatru nrupamebhyo muhuh peeda suduhsaha

If there be malefic, debilitated planets etc, in the 6th and 8th houses from the
house (of which the dasha period is running), there will be diseases, enemity, 
constant distress due to the king

62 yasmat chaturthah kroorah syat bhu gruha kshetra nashanam
Pashuhanih tatra bhaume gruhadahah pramadakrut

If there be malefics in the 4th, there will be destruction to land, house and
agriculture field. If mars be the planet, there will be loss of cattle and
predominantly, there will be loss of house due to negligence

63 shanau hridayashulam syat surye rajaprakopanam
Sarvasvaharanam rahau visha chaura adijam bhayam

If Saturn be the planet in the 4th, there will be trouble to heart; if Sun be
the planet, there will be trouble due to the Government. There will be loss of
everything, if rahu be the planet in 4th, including danger from poison, thieves
etc

To continue…

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

39 arambhe paparashau va yad isho durbalo dwija
Neechadau tad dashat ante vadet bhagya viparyayam

If at the commencement of the dasha the planet or rashi be in a malefic sign,
weak, debilitated, then there will be reversal of fortune towards the end of the
dasha

40 yatra sthito neecha khetah trikone va atha neechagah
Tatha rasheeshware neeche sambandho neechakhetakaihi

If a sign or the trines from there be occupied by debilitated planets, the lord
of the rashi be debilitated or be associated with debilitated planets

41 bhagyasya vipareetatvam karoti eva dwijottama
Dhana dhanya hanih cha dehe rogabhayam tatha

There will be reversal of fortune, O Brahmin. There will be loss of wealth and
grains and distress due to diseases of the body

42 rahoh ketoshcha kumbha adi vrishchika adi chatushtayam
Swabham tatra samarambhah tad dashayam shubham bhavet

Four rashis from aquarius belong to Rahu and Ketu owns four rashis from scorpio.
If these two planets be in their own sign at the commencement of the dash, it is
auspicious.

(Note: this verse implies that Rahu/Ketu own four signs each)

43 yad dashayam shubham bruyatsa chet maraka sansthitah
Yasmin rashau dashantah syat tasmin drishte yute api va

A dasha considered auspicious otherwise, if placed in a maraka house or the
rashi in which the dahsa ends

44 shukrena vidhuna va syat rajakopat dhankshayah
Dashantah chet ari kshetre rahudrishta yute api va

Be with or be aspected by Venus or moon, there will be loss of wealth due to
governmental displeasure. This is also the case, if the end of the dasha fall in
the 6th house, aspected by rahu or with rahu

45 idam phalam shanehe paake na vichintyam dwijottama
Dashaprade nakrarashau na vichintyam idam phalam

These results do not hold true if Saturn be the lord of the rashi or if
Capricorn be the rashi dasha

46 rahur dashante sarvasvanasho marana bandhane
Dashat nirvasanam va syat kashtam va mahadashnute

At the end of Rahu dasha, there will be destruction of everything, death and
imprisonment.  There will be great distress and sufferings

47 tat trikona gate pape nishchayat duhkham adishet
Evam shubha ashubham sarva nishcayena vadet budhah

If there be malefic in trines to Rahu, the  above eveil effects will be felt,
definitely. These are the auspicious and adverse effects, which can be predicted
definitely

48 rahavat asrita rashih tu bhavet yadi dashapradah
Tatra kale api purva uktam chintaneeyam prayatnatah

If the sign in which Rahu is placed becomes the running dasha, then also that
dasha period will give adverse effects as stated above

49 dasha arambho dasha anto va marake chet na shobhanam
Tasmin eva cha rahuh cha narodho dravyanashanah

If at the commencement or at the end of the dasha, there be maraka planets, it
is not auspicious. If Rahu be present, there will be imprisonment and loss of
wealth

50 yatra kwapi cha bhe rahau dasharambhe vinashanam
Gruhabhranshah samud drishto dhane rahu dhanartikrit

There will be destruction during dasha of any rashi or planet, if during the
commencement, rahu be associated with the planet or rashi.  Rahu masks the
significance of the house. There will be loss of wealth if Rahu afflicts the
second house


To continue…………..

Sri Ganeshaya namah:

29 sitasitabhayugmah cha suryasya ripu rashayah
Kaurpih tauli ghatah chandroh bhaumasya ripu rashayah

The inimical signs for the sun are Taurus, libra and Gemini.  Scorpio, libra,
aquarius are inimical to the moon and mars

30 ghatameenanrultaulikanya gyasya tatah param
Karkameenalikumbhashcha rashayo ripavah smritah

For mercury the signs aquarius, pisces,gemini, libra and virgo are of prime
significance(?). The inimical signs are cancer, pisces, scorpio and aquarius

(Note: I really do not know the meaning of the first part of this verse. None of
these verses 29-32 have been translated by Santhanam)

31 vrishataulinruyukkanyarashayo ripavo guroh
Simhalikarkachapashcha shukrasya ripurashayah

Taurus, libra, Gemini, virgo are inimical signs for Jupiter. Leo, scorpio,
cancer and Sagittarius are inimical for venus

32 meshasimhadhanuhkaurpikarkata shanishatravah
Evam grahantaradasham chintayet kovido dwija

Aries, leo, Sagittarius, scorpio and cancer are inimical for Saturn. These are
to be considered during the sub periods of the planets, O Brahmin

33 ye rajayogada ye cha shubhamadhyasamata grahah
Yasmaddha dwitrituryasthah grahah shubhaphalapradah

The dasha of a rashi of a rajayog planet will be favorable, planet in between
two benefics (shubhakartari) will be favorable. Also the dasha of planet that
has benefic in the 2/3/4 positions from the planet will be favorable

34 tad dashanam shubham bruyat rajayogadi sambhavam
Shubhadwayantaragatah papo api shubhadah smritah

That dasha will be auspicious, which is associated with a rajayog planet.  Even
the dasha of a malefic planet will be favorable, if there be benefics in the
2/12 positions to the planet

35 gata shubhadashamadhyam dasha saumyasya shobhana
Shubha yasya trikonasthah tad dasha api shubhaprada

The dasha of a "shubha" planet will be average, the dasha of a "saumya" planet
will be very good. (Note: this verse I think brings out the difference between
"shubha" and "saumya". I hope I have interpreted correct. Others may express
their views.)
If there be benefics in trines to a rashi, that dasha period will also be
auspicious

36 arambha anto mitrashubharashyoh yadi phalam shubham
Prati rashi evam avadadyam vibhajya tat phalam vadet

If the dispositions of the rashi or the planet be friendly or benefic at the
start and at the end of the dasha, the effects will be auspicious. In this way,
the results for each rashi should be arrived at.

37 arambhat tat trikone tu saumye tu shubhabhavadet
Shubharashau shubharambhe dasha syat ati shobhana

If at the commencement of a dasha, there be benefics in trines to the rashi, the
dasha will be auspicious. The dasha of a benefic rashi, commencing in a benefic
rashi, will be extremely auspicious

38 shubhadirashau papah chet dasha arambhe shubha smrita
Shubharambhe katha cheti prarambhasya phalam vadet

If a malefic rashi commences in a benefic sign, the dasha will be auspicious. 
Thus, the commencement of the dasha should be considered for predicting the
results
To continue……..

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

20 mesha karka tula makara rashinam cha yathakramam
Badha stanani samprokta kumbhagosimhavrishchikah

The badha (obstruction) places for the signs aries, cancer, libra and capricorn
are aquarius, Taurus, leo and scorpio

21 pakeshakrantarashau va badhasthane shubhetare
Sthite sati mahashoko bandhanavyasanamayah

If there is malefic in the house occupied by its lord (pakesha) or in the
badhaka house of the rashi, there will be great sorrow , imprisonment and
disease during the rashi dahsa

22 uccha swarksha grahe tasmin shubham saukhyam dhana agamah
Tat shunyam chedasaukhyam syat tat dasha na phalaprada

If a rashi is occupied by own planets, exalted planets, that rashi dasha period
will be auspicious, happy and there will be gain of wealth. If a rashi is
unoccupied by any planet, that dasha period will not be fruitful

23 badhaka vyaya shada randhre rahuyukte mahadbhayam
Prasthane bandhanaprapti rajapeeda ripobhayam

If rahu be in the badhaka or the 6/8/12 houses from a rashi, that dasha period
will be full of danger, imprisonment during a journey, trouble due to government
and through enemies

24 ravi ara rahu shanayo bhuktirashau sthita yadi
Tad rashibhuktau patanam rajakopan mahadbhayam

If sun, mars, rahu or Saturn be in a sign, the sub period of that rashi will
give loss due to displeasure from the government

25 bhuktirashitrikone tu neechakhetah sthito yadi
Tad rashau va yute neeche pape mrityubhayam vadet

If during the subperiod of a rashi, there be debilitated planet  in the rashi or
in trines to it, there will be possibility of death

26 bhuktirashau swatungasthe trikone vapi khechare
Yada bhuktidasha prapta tada saukhyam labhet narah
27 nagara grama nathatvam putralabham dhanagamam
Kalyanam bhuribhagyam cha senapatyam maha unnatam

If there be exalted planet in a rashi or in trines to it, during the sub period
of the dasha, there will be happiness and gains, the native will attain
leadership of a town or a village, gain a son, wealth, all round welfare,
commandership and great progress

28 pakeshwaro jeevadrishtah shubharashisthito yadi
Tad dashayam dhanapraptih mangalam putrasambhavam

If the lord of a rashi whose dasha is operating be aspected by Jupiter or be in
a benefic sign, there will be gain of wealth, welfare and birth of a son during
that dasha

To continue….

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

11 dwitiye panchame saumye rajapreetirjayo dhruvam
Pape tatra gathe gyeyam ashubham tad dasha phalam

If there are benefics in the 2nd and 5th houses , there will be royal favors
during the dasha periods; malefics so placed will yield bad effects during the
dasha

12 chaturthe tu shubham saukhyam arogyam tu ashtame shubhe
Dharma vriddhih guru janat saukhyam cha navame shubhe

Beneifcs in the 4th house gives happiness, benefics in the 8th gives good
health; benefics in the 9th gives happiness from righteousness, elders and
teachers

13 vipareete viparyaso mishre mishram prakeertitam
Paake bhoge cha papadhye dehapeeda manovyatha

The effects will be adverse if malefics are placed, mixed effects when both
benefics and malefics are placed.  If there be malefics in both paaka rashi and
the bhoga rashi, there will be distress to the body and the mind

(Note: from now the verses include paaka and bhoga rashis. However, there is no
mention of these in the translation by Santhanam)

14 saptame paakabhogabhyam papae darartireerita
Chaturthe sthanahanih syat panchame putrapeedanam

If the 7th from both paaka and bhoga rashis are occupied by malefcis, there will
be distress to wife; if in 4th house to paaka/bhoga, loss of place; 5th house to
paaka/bhoga distress to children

15 dashame keertihanih syat navame pitrupeedanam
Pakat rudragate pape peeda sarva api badhika

Loss of honor if malefics be in the 10th to paaka/bhoga; distress to father if
in 9th. If malefics be in 8th to the paaka, there will be all round distress

16 uktasthanagate saumye tatah saukhyam vinirdishet
Kendrasthanagate saumye labhah shatrujayapradah

If in the above mentioned positions, there be benefics, happiness is expected.
Benefics in angles (I assume to the paaka/bhoga) there will be gains and victory
over enemies

17 janamkalagrahasthitya sagochagagrahairapi
Vicharitaih pravaktavyam tat tat rashi dasha phalam

Both the placement of the planets at the time of birth and at the time of
transit during the dasha should be considered for the effects of that rashi
dasha

18 yashcha rashih shubhakanto yasya pashchat shubhagrahah
Tat dasha shubhada prokta vipareete viparyayah

If the dasha rashi is well disposed at the time fo birth and during the dasha,
there will be beneifc effects  malefics  give adverse effects

19 trikonarandhrarishphasthaihi shubhapapaihi shubha ashubham
Tad dashayam cha vaktavyam phalam daivavida sada

If there be a combination of benefics and malefcis in the 6/8/12 houses, effects
will be mixed always

(Note: These verses do not match with the translation given by Santhanam.  Hence
I have translated these on my own to the best of my knowledge. Members who have
other versions of BPHS may try to find out in those books)

To continue…

Dear all,

There is a typo in the verse 1. Please read as

chara sthira "adi" sangya and not "dadi"

Regards,
bhagavathi

--- In vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com, "bhagavathi_hariharan"
<bhagavathi_hariharan@...> wrote:
>
> Sri Ganeshaya Namah:
>
> Atha chara adi dashaphala adhyayah (the effect of chara dasha etc)
>
> 1 chara sthira dadi sangya ya dashah proktah pura dwija
> Shubha ashubha phalam tasam katahyami tava agratah
>
> I have already told about the chara and sthira dashas. Now I shall tell you
about the good and bad effects of these dashas
>
> 2 lagna adi dwadasha antanam bhavanam phalakeertane
> Tat tat rashishweeryena yatha yogyam prayojayet
>
> The results of the lagna and the 12 houses are determined by the lords of that
sign
>
> 3 balayukte cha rashishe purna tasya tada phalam
> Phalam madhyabale madhyam balaheene viparyayah
>
> If the lord of the sign is endowed with strength, the effects will be
complete. The effects will be average if the strength is middling and the
effects will be accordingly if the lord is devoid of strength
>
> 4 yo yo dashaprado rashistasya randhratrikonake
> Papakhetayute vipra taddasha duhkhadayika
>
> Those dasha periods of the sign will be distressful; if the 8th, 5th and 9th
from that sign be occupied by malefic (Here I assume "trikonake" would also mean
malefic present in the rashi under consideration also)
>
> 5 tritiya shashtage pape jyadih parikeertitah
> Shubhakhetayute tatra jayate cha parajayah
>
> If there be malefics in 3rd, 6th from the dasha rashi, there will be victory
over enemies; there will be defeat if benefics are placed in similar places.
>
> 6 labhaste cha shubhe pape labho bhavati nishchitah
> Yada dashaprado rashih shubhakhetayuto dwija
>
> If there be benefics or malefics in the 11th from dasha rashi, there will be
gains definitely; if the dasha rashi is occupied by benefics
>
> 7 shubhakshetre hi tad rasheh shubham gyeyam dashaphalam
> Papayukte shubhakshetre purva shubham asatpare
>
> If the dasha sign be entirely  benefic, the effects will be auspicious; if the
dasha sign be a benefic, joining a malefic, good effects will be felt in the
early part of the dasha and later half will be distressful
>
> 8 paparkshe shubhasanyukte purva saukhyam tata ashubham
> Papakshetre papayukte sa dasha sarvadukhada
>
> If the dasha of a malefic rashi joins a benefic, there will be happiness
during the early half and later half of the dasha will be distressful. The dasha
of the malefic sign, associated with malefics will be unhappy through out
>
> 9 shubhakshetradasha rashau yukte papashubhair dwija
> 10 Purva kashtam sukham pashchat nirvishankam prajayate
> Shubhakshetre shubham vachyam paparkshe tu ahsubham phalam
>
> If the dasha of a benefic rashi is associated with both benefics and malefics,
the early part of the dasha will be distressful but the later half will be
happy, without any doubt.  Good results should be predicted for the sign that is
benefic while bad effects for a malefic sign
>
> To continue…..
>

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

Atha chara adi dashaphala adhyayah (the effect of chara dasha etc)

1 chara sthira dadi sangya ya dashah proktah pura dwija
Shubha ashubha phalam tasam katahyami tava agratah

I have already told about the chara and sthira dashas. Now I shall tell you
about the good and bad effects of these dashas

2 lagna adi dwadasha antanam bhavanam phalakeertane
Tat tat rashishweeryena yatha yogyam prayojayet

The results of the lagna and the 12 houses are determined by the lords of that
sign

3 balayukte cha rashishe purna tasya tada phalam
Phalam madhyabale madhyam balaheene viparyayah

If the lord of the sign is endowed with strength, the effects will be complete.
The effects will be average if the strength is middling and the effects will be
accordingly if the lord is devoid of strength

4 yo yo dashaprado rashistasya randhratrikonake
Papakhetayute vipra taddasha duhkhadayika

Those dasha periods of the sign will be distressful; if the 8th, 5th and 9th
from that sign be occupied by malefic (Here I assume "trikonake" would also mean
malefic present in the rashi under consideration also)

5 tritiya shashtage pape jyadih parikeertitah
Shubhakhetayute tatra jayate cha parajayah

If there be malefics in 3rd, 6th from the dasha rashi, there will be victory
over enemies; there will be defeat if benefics are placed in similar places.

6 labhaste cha shubhe pape labho bhavati nishchitah
Yada dashaprado rashih shubhakhetayuto dwija

If there be benefics or malefics in the 11th from dasha rashi, there will be
gains definitely; if the dasha rashi is occupied by benefics

7 shubhakshetre hi tad rasheh shubham gyeyam dashaphalam
Papayukte shubhakshetre purva shubham asatpare

If the dasha sign be entirely  benefic, the effects will be auspicious; if the
dasha sign be a benefic, joining a malefic, good effects will be felt in the
early part of the dasha and later half will be distressful

8 paparkshe shubhasanyukte purva saukhyam tata ashubham
Papakshetre papayukte sa dasha sarvadukhada

If the dasha of a malefic rashi joins a benefic, there will be happiness during
the early half and later half of the dasha will be distressful. The dasha of the
malefic sign, associated with malefics will be unhappy through out

9 shubhakshetradasha rashau yukte papashubhair dwija
10 Purva kashtam sukham pashchat nirvishankam prajayate
Shubhakshetre shubham vachyam paparkshe tu ahsubham phalam

If the dasha of a benefic rashi is associated with both benefics and malefics,
the early part of the dasha will be distressful but the later half will be
happy, without any doubt.  Good results should be predicted for the sign that is
benefic while bad effects for a malefic sign

To continue…..

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

28 makare putralabhah syat kumbhe dhanyavivardhanam
Meene kalyanam apnoti vrishchike vishabadhita

Gain of son durng capricorn; increase in grains during aquarius
Well-being during pisces and trouble due to poison during scorpio

29 taulike tu arthalabhah cha kanyayam shatruvardhanam
Shashibhe striyam apnoti simhe tu mrigabadhita

Gain of wealth during libra; increase in enemies during virgo; gain of wife
during cancer; danger from animals during leo

30 mithune vrikshabadha cha mrigasya navabhagake

During Gemini, danger from tree, all these effecst in the nine divisions of
Capricorn

Vrishabhe tu artha labhasya meshabhe tu akshirogakrit
31 meene tu deergha yatra syat kumbhe dhanavivardhanam
Makare sarvasiddhih syat chape shatru vivardhanam

Gain of wealth during Taurus; disease of the eye during aries;
Long  journeys during pisces; increase of wealth during aquarius; accomplishment
of everything during Capricorn, increase in enemies during Sagittarius

32 meshe soukhyavinashah cha vrishabhe maranam bhavet
Yugme kalyanam apnoti kumbhasya navamanshake

Loss of happiness during aries and death during Taurus; wellbeing during Gemini;
these are the effects for the nine divisions of aquarius
33 karkate dhanavriddhih syat simhe tu rajapujanam
Kanyayam artha labhah tu tulayam labham apnuyat

Increase of wealth during cancer; royal honor during Leo, gain of wealth during
virgo, several gains during libra

34 vrishchike jwaram apnoti chape shatru vivardhanam
Mrige jayavirodhah cha kumbhe jalavirodhata

Fever during scorpio; increase of enemies during saggitarius; enemity with wife
during Capricorn and danger from water during aqaurius

35 meene tu sarvasaubhagyam meenasya navabhagake
All round happiness during pisces; these are the effects for the nine divisions
of pisces

Dashaansha kramenaivam gyatva sarvaphalam vadet
36 krooragrahadashakale shantim kuryat vichakshanah
Yat proktam rajayogadau sangyadhyaye cha yat phalam

All results can be delineated by using the "navansh" or the nine divisions of
the rashis as above.
Durind malefic dashas, remedial measures need to be performed.  The rajayogas
operate during kalachakra in the same way as told before

37 tatsarva chakrakale hi subuddhaya yojayed budhah
Iti sankshepatah proktam kalachakradashaphalam

The effects need to be arrived at judiciously. Thus have I told you the effects
of kalachakra dasha, in detail

(Note: this part mentions effects of dasha which are not of the apasavya group.
Hence this chapter lacks details about this group of nakshatras.)

This concludes chapter 49 of BPHS, next…

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

Tulayam arthalabhah cha vrishchike bhraturvardhanam
During the dasha of Libra, gain of wealth; scorpio happiness from brothers

21 chape cha tatasaukhyam cha mrige matruvirodhita
Kumbhe putrarthalabhah cha meene shatruvirodhita

Saggitarus happiness from father and Capricorn enemity with mother; during
aquarius gain of son and wealth and during pisces trouble from enemies

22 alau jayavirodhah cha tule cha jalabadhata
kanyayam dhanavriddhih syat tulayam navabhagake

during the dahsa of scorpio, enemity with wife and trouble through water during
libra; increase in wealth during virgo, these are the effects for the nine
divisions of Libra, which form the savya-II pada-2 group of nakshatras

23 karkate hyarthanashah cha simhe rajavirodhita
Mithune bhoomilabhah cha vrishabhe cha artha labhakrit

During cancer dasha increase in wealth; trouble from the king during Leo; gain
of land during Gemini and gain of wealth during Taurus

24 meshe sarpa adi bheetih syat meene chaiva jalad bhayam
Kumbhe vyaparato labho makare api rujo bhayam

Fear from snakes during Aries; fear from water during pisces; gain in business
during aquarius and trouble from diseases during Capricorn

25 chape tu dhanalabhah syad vrishchikasya navanshake

Gain of wealth during saggitarius, these are the effects for the nine divisions
of scorpio that fom the savya-II pada-3 group of nakshatras

meshe tu dhanalabhah syad vrishe  bhoomivivardhanam

gain of wealth during Aries; increase in land during  taurus

26 mithune sarvasiddhih syat karkate sarvasiddhikrit
Simhe tu purvavriddhih syat kanyayam kalaho bhavet

During Gemini, success in everything; all round success in cancer, attainment of
accumulated wealth  during Leo and quarrels during virgo

27 taulike charthalabhah syad vrishchike rogam apnuyat
Chape tu sutavriddhih syat chapasya navanshake

Gain of wealth during libra; diseases during scorpio; happiness from children
during sagitarrius are the effects during the nine divisions of sagitarrius of
the Savya-II pada-4 group of nakshatras

To continue..

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

Karkate sankatapraptih simhe rajaprakopakrit
in the dasha of cancer, there will be troubles

14 kanyayam bhratrupuja va taulike priaykrit narah
Vrishchike pitrubadha syat chape gyana dhanodayah

During the dasha of Virgo, the native will be honored by brothers; beneficience
during libra; scorpio obstacles due to father and increase in wealthand learning
during Sagittarius

15 makare jalabheetih syat kumbhe dhanyavivardhanam
Meene cha sukhasampattih karkatasya navanshake

Fear from water during Capricorn, increase in grains during aquarius ; happiness
and acquisition of wealth during pisces. These are the effects for the nine
divisions of cancer, which form savya-1 pada-4 group

16 vrishchike kalah peeda taulike hyadhikam phalam
Kanyayam atilabhah cha shashanke mrigabadhika

Quarrels and sufferings during scorpio; excessive gains during libra and also
during virgo; danger from animals during cancer

17 simhe cha putralabhah cha mithune shatruvardhanam
Vrisheh chatushpadat labho meshanshe pashuto bhayam

Gain of son during leo; increase of enemies during Gemini, gain of cattle during
Taurus and fear from animals during aries

18 kumbhe tu dhanalabhah cha makare dravyalabhakrit
Dhanushi bhratrusansargo meshe matruvivardhanam

Gain of wealth during aquarius and also during Capricorn
During saggitarius, the company of brothers; happiness from mother during aries

19 vrishabhe putravriddhih syat mithune shatruvardhanam
Shashibhe tu striyam preetih simhe vyadhivivardhanam

During the dasha of Taurus, there will be gain of sons; Gemini , increase of
enemies; happiness from wife during cancer and diseases during Leo

20 kanyayam putravriddhih syat kanyaya navanshake

Gain of sons during virgo; these are the effects during the kalachakra dasha of
the nine divisions of Virgo, which form the savya-II, pada-1 nakshatras

To continue…

Kursijaji,

We have already done the calclulation part of Kalachakra. Please be specific in
what you would like to know.

Regards,
bhagavathi

--- In vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com, "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Bhagavathi Hariharana ji,
> Thanks for the new chapter 49 on kalachakara dasha. It is use as important
dasha in south as vomshottari dasha in north India. So I shall request you to
give some detail on the calculation of the dasha.
> Thanks and regards
>
> --- On Mon, 10/19/09, bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan@...>
> Subject: [vedic_astrology_classes] Understanding BPHS- chapter 49/ part 1
> To: vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 7:34 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Sri Ganeshaya Namah:
>
> Atha kalachakradashaphal a adhyayah
>
> 1 kathayami viprendra kalachakradashaphal am
> Tatradau rashinathanam suryadeenam phalam bruve
>
> Now I shall tell about the effects of Kalachakra dasha . I shall tell about
the effects of the dasha
> Of rashi lords of Sun etc
>
> 2 rakta pitta adito vyadhim nrunam arkaphalam vadet
> Dhana keerti praja vriddhivastra abharanadah shashi
>
> There will be diseases due to disorder of blood, bile etc. in the dasha owned
or occupied by sun
> During moon dasha, there will be gain of wealth, fame, birth of children,
clothes, ornaments
>
> 3 jwaramashu dishet paityam granthisphotam kujah tatha
> Prajanam cha dhananam cha sada vriddhim budho dishet
>
> During the dasha of mars, there will be bilious fever, gout, wounds; during
mercury there will be birth of children and gain of wealth throughout
>
> 4 dhanam keertim prajavriddhim nanabhogam brihaspatih
> Vidyavriddhih vivahah cha gruham dhanyam bhrigoh phalam
>
> During Jupiter, acquisition of wealth, fame, birth of children and various
kinds of joy. During Venus there will be education, marriage and gain of wealth
and grains in the house
>
> (Note: this verse mentions education in the dasha related to "Venus" and not
Jupiter)
>
> 5 tapadhikyam mahadduhkham bandhunashanah shaneh phalam
> Evam arka adi yogena vadet rashidasha phalam
>
> During dasha related to Saturn, there will be excessive sufferings, extreme
sorrow, distress to relatives . These are the effects of the Sun and other
planets during their rashi dasha
>
> To contine…. the next verses are based on the savya/apasvya groups dasha
cycle. I shall try to interpret for easy understanding in the next part
>

Sri Ganeshaya namah:

6 meshe tu raktapeeda cha vrishabhe dhanyavarddhanam
Mithune gyanasampannah chandre dhanapatirbhavet

Blodd disorders during the dahsa of aries ; increase of grains during taurus ; 
acquisition of knowledge during gemini; while during the dasha of cancer, the
native will become wealthy

7 suryakshe shatrubadha cha kanya streenam cha nashanam
Talike rajamantritvam vrishchike maranam bhavet

During Leo, there will be danger from enemies; trouble to wife during virgo;
acquisition of position during libra; possibility of death during scorpio

8 arthalabho bhavet chape meshasya navabhagake

During the dasha of Sagittarius, there will be gain of wealth.  These are the
results for the nine divisions from mesha which fall in the savya-I, pada-1
group

Makare papakarmani  kumbhe vanijyameva cha
9 meenesarvartha siddhihi cha vrishchikeshu agnito bhayam
Taulike rajapujyah cha kanyayam shatruvardhanam

Sinful acts during Capricorn dasha; profit in business during aquarius; success
in all undertakings during pisces and trouble due to fear during scorpio. Royal
honor during libra, danger from enemies during virgo

10 shashibhe darasambadha simhe cha tu akshirogakrit
Mithune vrittibadha syadvrishabhasya navanshake

In the dasha of cancer, troubles related to wife; diseases of the eye during
Leo; financial distress during Gemini during the nine divisions of Taurus, which
fall in the savya-I, pada-2 group

11 vrishabhe tu arthalabhah cha meshe tu jwararogakrit
Meene tu matulapreetih kumbhe shatrupravarddhanam

Gain of wealth during Taurus, affliction due to fever  and diseases during
Aries. Happiness on account of maternal uncle, during Pisces; increase in number
of enemies during aquarius

12 mrige chaurasya sambandha dhanushi shastravardhanam
Meshe tu shastrasanghato vrishabhe kalaho bhavet

During Capricorn, troubles related to thieves; stocking weapons during
saggitarius; danger from weapons during aries and quarrels during Taurus

13 mithune sukhamapnoti mithunasya navamshake

Happiness during the dasha of Gemini, in the 9 divisions of Gemini, which form
the savya-I, pada-3 group

To continue….

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

Atha kalachakradashaphala adhyayah

1 kathayami viprendra kalachakradashaphalam
Tatradau rashinathanam suryadeenam phalam bruve

Now I shall tell about the effects of Kalachakra dasha . I shall tell about the
effects of the dasha
Of rashi lords of Sun etc

2 rakta pitta adito vyadhim nrunam arkaphalam vadet
Dhana keerti praja vriddhivastra abharanadah shashi

There will be diseases due to disorder of blood, bile etc.  in the dasha  owned
or occupied by sun
During moon dasha, there will be gain of wealth, fame, birth of children,
clothes, ornaments

3 jwaramashu dishet paityam granthisphotam kujah tatha
Prajanam cha dhananam cha sada vriddhim budho dishet

During the dasha of mars, there will be bilious fever, gout, wounds; during
mercury there will be birth of children and gain of wealth throughout

4 dhanam keertim prajavriddhim nanabhogam brihaspatih
Vidyavriddhih vivahah cha gruham dhanyam bhrigoh phalam

During Jupiter, acquisition of wealth, fame, birth of children and various kinds
of joy. During Venus there will be education, marriage and gain of wealth and
grains in the house

(Note: this verse mentions education in the dasha  related to "Venus" and not
Jupiter)

5 tapadhikyam mahadduhkham bandhunashanah shaneh phalam
Evam arka adi yogena vadet rashidasha phalam

During dasha related to Saturn, there will be excessive sufferings, extreme
sorrow, distress to relatives . These are the effects of the Sun and other
planets during their rashi dasha

To contine…. the next verses are based on the savya/apasvya groups dasha cycle. 
I shall try to interpret for easy understanding in the next part

Kursijaji,

//The lord ship of the house is more important than the naisargik value//

I agree with your valid point here. Thank you for bringing this out
We need to analyze more charts with this type of combination. I shall post
examples, if I come across any.

Regards,
bhagavathi



--- In vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com, "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija@...>
wrote:
>
> Respected Bhagavathi Hariharana,
> I desire to point our that :If the lords of the 6th/8th or the 12th join the
lord of a trine" and "If the planet goes to the trik houses or join the lords of
trik houses"  The lord of bad house joins the lord of good house gives good
results. If a benefic planet joins the lord of bad house, give bad results. The
question is of join. The lord ship of the house is more important than the
naisargik value.
>  
> Let us see the chart. The dasha of Jupiter was not good. Why? Jupiter is lagna
lord and 10th lord. Jupiter suffers from kendradhipati dosha and posited in 3rd
house, inauspicious placement, in sign of Venus, the lord of 8th lord, and
nakshta of Mars, the 2nd lord,  Maraka. Jupiter is afflicted.
>  
> Take Saturn who gave good results. Why? Saturn is natural malefic planet.
Vargottam, and going to be exalted, in the nakshtra of Mars, posited in the
friend;s sign in kendra in D/9. Saturn has got strength
>  
> Niether the Jupiter nor the Saturn joins any planet The are posited in trine
to each other 
> Regards
>
> --- On Fri, 10/16/09, bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan@...>
> Subject: [vedic_astrology_classes] Re: Understanding BPHS- chapter 48/ part 2
(end)
> To: vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 5:59 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Namaste Kursijaji,
>
> These to verses indeed are important for discussion. Simply put, these verses
imply that "good" joining bad becomes bad and "bad" joining good becomes good.
We need to analyze some charts to check how this rule works.
>
> This is the chart of a famous woman. The details were given by herself in an
open interview. So the birth info is correct
>
> Aug 15, 1953; 9.00PM, Jullundur, India
>
> Her Jupiter dasha was from 1972- 1988, Jupiter lord of lagna and 10th, two
kendras placed in 3rd. During that time she was an actress but she acted in
third rated movies in cheap roles, she posed for magazines etc
>
> See her Saturn dasha, lord of 11th and 12th, placed in the 7th, aspected by
jupiter lord of two kendras- her entire life got transformed, she is a famous
astrologer and teacher, chair person of a reputed astrology institute, has
authored several books in astrology. She has earned a respectable image, while
her past nasty image is totally erased
>
> I am eager to know your views on this chart. There maybe several other reasons
but I felt this chart is somewhat valid in the current context.
>
> Regards,
> bhagavathi
>
> --- In vedic_astrology_ classes@yahoogro ups.com, "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija@
..> wrote:
> >
> > Respected Bhagavati Hariharana,
> > I would like to invite the attention of the members to Shloka 14 and 19
of the chapter and their comments.
> > Regards  
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/15/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>
> > Subject: [vedic_astrology_ classes] Understanding BPHS- chapter 48/ part 2
(end)
> > To: vedic_astrology_ classes@yahoogro ups.com
> > Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 7:34 AM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Sri Ganeshaya Namah:
> >
> > 9 panchameshena yuktasya karmeshasya dasha shubha
> > Navameshena yuktasya karmeshasya dasha shubha
> >
> > The dasha of the 10th lord joining the 5th is auspicious. Likewise, the
dasha of the 10th lord joining the 9th lord is auspicious
> >
> > 10 panchameshena yuktasya grahasyapi dasha shubha
> > Tatha dharmapayuktasya dasha paramashobhana
> >
> > The dasha of a planet joining the 5th lord is auspicious. The dasha of the
planet joining the 9th lord is extremely good
> >
> > 11 sukheshasahitasyapi dharmeshasya dasha shubha
> > Panchamasthanagasya pi maneshasya dashashubha
> >
> > The dasha of the 9th lord if joining the 4th lord is also auspicious. The
dasha of the 9th lord when placed in the 5th is also favorable
> >
> > 12 evam trikonanathanam kendrasthanam dashah shubhah
> > Tatha konasthitanam cha kendreshanam dashah shubhah
> >
> > Dasha of the lords of the angles and trines are auspicious. Then, the dasha
of the lord of the Kendra placed in a trine is auspicious
> >
> > 13 kendreshah konabhavasthah koneshah kendrago yadi
> > Tayoho dasham shubham prahurjyotihshastra vido janah
> >
> > If there is an exchange between the lords of the angles and the lords of the
trines, dasha of those planets will be favorable
> >
> > 14 shashtha ashtama vyayadhisha api koneshasanyuta
> > Tesham dashapi shubhada kathita kalakovidaihi
> >
> > If the lords of the 6th/8th or the 12th join the lord of a trine, dasha of
those planets are also spoken of as favorable
> >
> > 15 konesho yadi kendrasthah kendresho yadi konagah
> > Tabhyam yuktasya khetasya drishti yuktasya cha etayoh
> > 16 dasha shubhapradam prahurvidddhanso daivachinatakah
> >
> > When there is an exchange between the lord of the angle and the lord of a
trine, the planets either joining or aspected by these planets will produce
favorable results during their dasha
> >
> > Lagnesho dharmabhavastho dharmesho lagnago yadi
> > 17 etayoho tu dashakale sukhadharmasamudbha vah
> >
> > The dasha of the lords of the lagna and 9th lord will be auspicious, if they
are in mutual exchange
> >
> > Karmesho lagnarashistho lagneshah karmabhavagah
> > 18 Tayordashvipake tu rajyalabho bhavet dhruvam
> >
> > When there is a mutual exchange between the lords of the lagna and the 10th,
there will be acquisition of a kingdom during the dasha of these planets
> >
> > Trishadayagatanam cha trishadaya adhipairyujam
> > 19 shubhanam api khetanam dasha papaphalaprada
> >
> > If the planet goes to the trik houses or join the lords of trik houses,
there will be adverse results during its dasha, even if the planet happens to be
a benefic
> >
> > Marakasthanaganam cha marakeshayujamapi
> > 20 randhrasthanagatana m cha dashanishtaphalapra da
> > Evam bhaveshasambandhadu raniyam dashphalam
> >
> > If a planet joins a maraka planet or be in a maraka house, or be in the 8th
house, the dasha of that planet will not be favorable
> >
> > These are the results of thedasha periods derived from relationship of the
"bhavas" concerned
> >
> > (Note: Santhanam has given additional notes on Rahu-Ketu being favorable in
3/6/11. I do not see a corresponding verse in this particular text)
> >
> > This concludes chapter 48 of BPHS, next…..
> >
>

Namaste Kursijaji,

These to verses indeed are important for discussion. Simply put, these verses
imply that "good" joining bad becomes bad and "bad" joining good becomes good.
We need to analyze some charts to check how this rule works.

This is the chart of a famous woman. The details were given by herself in an
open interview. So the birth info is correct

Aug 15, 1953; 9.00PM, Jullundur, India

Her Jupiter dasha was from 1972- 1988, Jupiter lord of lagna and 10th, two
kendras placed in 3rd. During that time she was an actress but she acted in
third rated movies in cheap roles, she posed for magazines etc

See her Saturn dasha, lord of 11th and 12th, placed in the 7th, aspected by
jupiter lord of two kendras- her entire life got transformed, she is a famous
astrologer and teacher, chair person of a reputed astrology institute, has
authored several books in astrology. She has earned a respectable image, while
her past nasty image is totally erased

I am eager to know your views on this chart. There maybe several other reasons
but I felt this chart is somewhat valid in the current context.

Regards,
bhagavathi





--- In vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com, "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija@...>
wrote:
>
> Respected Bhagavati Hariharana,
> I would like to invite the attention of the members to Shloka 14 and 19 of
the chapter and their comments.
> Regards  
>
> --- On Thu, 10/15/09, bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan@...>
> Subject: [vedic_astrology_classes] Understanding BPHS- chapter 48/ part 2
(end)
> To: vedic_astrology_classes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 7:34 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Sri Ganeshaya Namah:
>
> 9 panchameshena yuktasya karmeshasya dasha shubha
> Navameshena yuktasya karmeshasya dasha shubha
>
> The dasha of the 10th lord joining the 5th is auspicious. Likewise, the dasha
of the 10th lord joining the 9th lord is auspicious
>
> 10 panchameshena yuktasya grahasyapi dasha shubha
> Tatha dharmapayuktasya dasha paramashobhana
>
> The dasha of a planet joining the 5th lord is auspicious. The dasha of the
planet joining the 9th lord is extremely good
>
> 11 sukheshasahitasyapi dharmeshasya dasha shubha
> Panchamasthanagasya pi maneshasya dashashubha
>
> The dasha of the 9th lord if joining the 4th lord is also auspicious. The
dasha of the 9th lord when placed in the 5th is also favorable
>
> 12 evam trikonanathanam kendrasthanam dashah shubhah
> Tatha konasthitanam cha kendreshanam dashah shubhah
>
> Dasha of the lords of the angles and trines are auspicious. Then, the dasha of
the lord of the Kendra placed in a trine is auspicious
>
> 13 kendreshah konabhavasthah koneshah kendrago yadi
> Tayoho dasham shubham prahurjyotihshastra vido janah
>
> If there is an exchange between the lords of the angles and the lords of the
trines, dasha of those planets will be favorable
>
> 14 shashtha ashtama vyayadhisha api koneshasanyuta
> Tesham dashapi shubhada kathita kalakovidaihi
>
> If the lords of the 6th/8th or the 12th join the lord of a trine, dasha of
those planets are also spoken of as favorable
>
> 15 konesho yadi kendrasthah kendresho yadi konagah
> Tabhyam yuktasya khetasya drishti yuktasya cha etayoh
> 16 dasha shubhapradam prahurvidddhanso daivachinatakah
>
> When there is an exchange between the lord of the angle and the lord of a
trine, the planets either joining or aspected by these planets will produce
favorable results during their dasha
>
> Lagnesho dharmabhavastho dharmesho lagnago yadi
> 17 etayoho tu dashakale sukhadharmasamudbha vah
>
> The dasha of the lords of the lagna and 9th lord will be auspicious, if they
are in mutual exchange
>
> Karmesho lagnarashistho lagneshah karmabhavagah
> 18 Tayordashvipake tu rajyalabho bhavet dhruvam
>
> When there is a mutual exchange between the lords of the lagna and the 10th,
there will be acquisition of a kingdom during the dasha of these planets
>
> Trishadayagatanam cha trishadaya adhipairyujam
> 19 shubhanam api khetanam dasha papaphalaprada
>
> If the planet goes to the trik houses or join the lords of trik houses, there
will be adverse results during its dasha, even if the planet happens to be a
benefic
>
> Marakasthanaganam cha marakeshayujamapi
> 20 randhrasthanagatana m cha dashanishtaphalapra da
> Evam bhaveshasambandhadu raniyam dashphalam
>
> If a planet joins a maraka planet or be in a maraka house, or be in the 8th
house, the dasha of that planet will not be favorable
>
> These are the results of thedasha periods derived from relationship of the
"bhavas" concerned
>
> (Note: Santhanam has given additional notes on Rahu-Ketu being favorable in
3/6/11. I do not see a corresponding verse in this particular text)
>
> This concludes chapter 48 of BPHS, next…..
>

Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

9 panchameshena yuktasya karmeshasya dasha shubha
Navameshena yuktasya karmeshasya dasha shubha

The dasha of the 10th lord joining the 5th is auspicious. Likewise, the dasha of
the 10th lord joining the 9th lord is auspicious

10 panchameshena yuktasya grahasyapi dasha shubha
Tatha dharmapayuktasya dasha paramashobhana

The dasha of a planet joining the 5th lord is auspicious. The dasha of the
planet joining the 9th lord is extremely good

11 sukheshasahitasyapi dharmeshasya dasha shubha
Panchamasthanagasyapi maneshasya dashashubha

The dasha of the 9th lord if joining the 4th lord is also auspicious. The dasha
of the 9th lord when placed in the 5th is also favorable

12 evam trikonanathanam kendrasthanam dashah shubhah
Tatha konasthitanam cha kendreshanam dashah shubhah

Dasha of the lords of the angles and trines are auspicious. Then, the dasha of
the lord of the Kendra placed in a trine is auspicious

13 kendreshah konabhavasthah koneshah kendrago yadi
Tayoho dasham shubham prahurjyotihshastravido janah

If there is an exchange between the lords of the angles and the lords of the
trines, dasha of those planets will be favorable

14 shashtha ashtama vyayadhisha api koneshasanyuta
Tesham dashapi shubhada kathita kalakovidaihi

If the lords of the 6th/8th or the 12th join the lord of a trine, dasha of those
planets are also spoken of as favorable

15 konesho yadi kendrasthah kendresho yadi konagah
Tabhyam yuktasya khetasya drishti yuktasya cha etayoh
16 dasha shubhapradam prahurvidddhanso daivachinatakah

When there is an exchange between the lord of the angle and the lord of a trine,
the planets either joining or aspected by these planets will produce favorable
results during their dasha

Lagnesho dharmabhavastho dharmesho lagnago yadi
17 etayoho tu dashakale sukhadharmasamudbhavah

The dasha of the lords of the lagna and 9th lord will be auspicious, if they are
in mutual exchange

Karmesho lagnarashistho lagneshah karmabhavagah
18 Tayordashvipake tu rajyalabho bhavet dhruvam

When there is a mutual exchange between the lords of the lagna and the 10th,
there will be acquisition of a kingdom during the dasha of these planets

Trishadayagatanam cha trishadaya adhipairyujam
19 shubhanam api khetanam dasha papaphalaprada

If the planet goes to the trik houses or join the lords of trik houses, there
will be adverse results during its dasha, even if the planet happens to be a
benefic

Marakasthanaganam cha marakeshayujamapi
20 randhrasthanagatanam cha dashanishtaphalaprada
Evam bhaveshasambandhaduraniyam dashphalam

If a planet joins a maraka planet or be in a maraka house, or be in the 8th
house, the dasha of that planet will not be favorable

These are the results of thedasha periods derived from relationship of the
"bhavas" concerned

(Note: Santhanam has given additional notes on Rahu-Ketu being favorable in
3/6/11. I do not see a corresponding verse in this particular text)

This concludes chapter 48 of BPHS, next…..