My sincere apologies to the list
Best wishes
Kasim
> To: vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com
> From: ybijay@...
> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:37:08 +0000
> Subject: [vedic-wisdom] Re: Tale of a young man
>
> With tongue in check I would say - what kind of stupid question is that to ask in this forum. Please post such questions to other yahoo astrology forums.
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> --- In vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com, Kasim Khan <kasim_ch@...> wrote:
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> > Dear Narasimha,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thnak you for your email below. Please could you share your thoughts on Michael Jackson's demise?
> >
> >
> >
> > He was running Ketu-Rahu. Ketu being 7th lord can give death. Also being a malefic in 8th from AL i suppose it can give sudden unfavourable events. Being in 12th house could show death in bed?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been a huge fan of his for the past 20 years or so. Are you able to analyse his death chart?
> >
> >
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> >
> >
> > Kasim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com
> > From: pvr@...
> > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:28:34 -0400
> > Subject: [vedic-wisdom] Tale of a young man
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Namaste,
> >
> > I was reading a small interview by Deepak Chopra on Michael Jackson. Mr Chopra was talking about how doctors suck people into prescription medicines and how that ruins some people's lives. That somehow reminded me of a story.
> >
> > Sometime back, mother of a young man came to me to show his chart. She was asking about his studies etc. But the chart was brilliant from the spiritual point of view. There were many tell-tale combinations. I declared, "this is not the chart of a materialistic person, but that of a sannyasi (ascetic/monk)." She broke down into tears and gave me some background. I found out that he indeed wants to leave material life and his mother does not want him to.
> >
> > This boy had been calm, peaceful, contented and an introvert since childhood. Oneday in his early teenage days, he had an interesting experience. He was in his room upstairs. His father was teaching math to some students downstairs. He was hearing all those voices. Suddenly, he stopped hearing anything. He did not hear or see anything for a while. His mind was completely blacked out. After a while, his mind returned to normalcy and he saw and heard everything. But he felt a tremendous sense of bliss and contentment then. He was overwhelmed by what he felt then.
> >
> > He realized that what people pursue as happiness is nothing in front of what he experienced then. He did not want to study or do anything anymore. He only wanted to experience that state. His parents became worried and took him to doctors. Doctors did all kinds of tests on his brain and found nothing. He was also confined to a mental facility for one month. They put him on powerful drugs and kept him under observation. He kept telling the doctors that there was nothing wrong with him and that they would not understand what he experienced. After a month, those doctors concluded he was normal and had no problem. The powerful drugs he received during the month wreaked havoc on him, but he was not angry or mad at his parents or doctors. He says he understands his parents love him and hence they did all this. He does not want to hurt them. He also says he knows what he wants but does not know how to get it. But he knows that regular studies and regular material life will not get him what he wants.
> >
> > When I chatted with him alone, I realized that he is a brilliant young man with clear thinking. He is certainly not a mad person. He just needs someone to show him a spiritual path to make something permanent, which temporarily came to him and left him! To get it permanently now, he needs to do serious sadhana. His parents also took him to many so-called swamijis, but he was not satisfied with the advice given anyone. He started reading Ramana Maharshi and a few others and liked some of them. But he is still without a clear direction.
> >
> > Interestingly, just when I was about to chat with this person after making his parents leave, my guru Manish called me. He asked me what was going on. I mentioned that I was about to talk to a teenager who had a nice chart. He asked for the birthdata, checked it out and confirmed my feeling that this boy had great spiritual potential.
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, the system we have in place looked at him with suspicion and gave powerful drugs to mess up his mind for one full month! He is lucky and survived the ordeal. This is a sign of the times we live in that someone who realizes, albeit momentarily, the essence of scriptures, is labeled as a mentally disturbed person and powerful drugs are given to him, instead of clear spiritual direction to make that realization more permanent.
> > Best regards,
> > Narasimha
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Best wishes
Kasim
> To: vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com
> From: ybijay@...
> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:37:08 +0000
> Subject: [vedic-wisdom] Re: Tale of a young man
>
> With tongue in check I would say - what kind of stupid question is that to ask in this forum. Please post such questions to other yahoo astrology forums.
>
> --- In vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com, Kasim Khan <kasim_ch@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Narasimha,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thnak you for your email below. Please could you share your thoughts on Michael Jackson's demise?
> >
> >
> >
> > He was running Ketu-Rahu. Ketu being 7th lord can give death. Also being a malefic in 8th from AL i suppose it can give sudden unfavourable events. Being in 12th house could show death in bed?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been a huge fan of his for the past 20 years or so. Are you able to analyse his death chart?
> >
> >
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> >
> >
> > Kasim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com
> > From: pvr@...
> > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:28:34 -0400
> > Subject: [vedic-wisdom] Tale of a young man
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Namaste,
> >
> > I was reading a small interview by Deepak Chopra on Michael Jackson. Mr Chopra was talking about how doctors suck people into prescription medicines and how that ruins some people's lives. That somehow reminded me of a story.
> >
> > Sometime back, mother of a young man came to me to show his chart. She was asking about his studies etc. But the chart was brilliant from the spiritual point of view. There were many tell-tale combinations. I declared, "this is not the chart of a materialistic person, but that of a sannyasi (ascetic/monk)." She broke down into tears and gave me some background. I found out that he indeed wants to leave material life and his mother does not want him to.
> >
> > This boy had been calm, peaceful, contented and an introvert since childhood. Oneday in his early teenage days, he had an interesting experience. He was in his room upstairs. His father was teaching math to some students downstairs. He was hearing all those voices. Suddenly, he stopped hearing anything. He did not hear or see anything for a while. His mind was completely blacked out. After a while, his mind returned to normalcy and he saw and heard everything. But he felt a tremendous sense of bliss and contentment then. He was overwhelmed by what he felt then.
> >
> > He realized that what people pursue as happiness is nothing in front of what he experienced then. He did not want to study or do anything anymore. He only wanted to experience that state. His parents became worried and took him to doctors. Doctors did all kinds of tests on his brain and found nothing. He was also confined to a mental facility for one month. They put him on powerful drugs and kept him under observation. He kept telling the doctors that there was nothing wrong with him and that they would not understand what he experienced. After a month, those doctors concluded he was normal and had no problem. The powerful drugs he received during the month wreaked havoc on him, but he was not angry or mad at his parents or doctors. He says he understands his parents love him and hence they did all this. He does not want to hurt them. He also says he knows what he wants but does not know how to get it. But he knows that regular studies and regular material life will not get him what he wants.
> >
> > When I chatted with him alone, I realized that he is a brilliant young man with clear thinking. He is certainly not a mad person. He just needs someone to show him a spiritual path to make something permanent, which temporarily came to him and left him! To get it permanently now, he needs to do serious sadhana. His parents also took him to many so-called swamijis, but he was not satisfied with the advice given anyone. He started reading Ramana Maharshi and a few others and liked some of them. But he is still without a clear direction.
> >
> > Interestingly, just when I was about to chat with this person after making his parents leave, my guru Manish called me. He asked me what was going on. I mentioned that I was about to talk to a teenager who had a nice chart. He asked for the birthdata, checked it out and confirmed my feeling that this boy had great spiritual potential.
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, the system we have in place looked at him with suspicion and gave powerful drugs to mess up his mind for one full month! He is lucky and survived the ordeal. This is a sign of the times we live in that someone who realizes, albeit momentarily, the essence of scriptures, is labeled as a mentally disturbed person and powerful drugs are given to him, instead of clear spiritual direction to make that realization more permanent.
> > Best regards,
> > Narasimha
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam
> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana
> > Spirituality: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vedic-wisdom
> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net
> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org
> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
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