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Re: Agni

Namaste friends,
 
You ask a very good question.
 
Agni is the element of transformation. It symbolizes absorbing and digesting experiences. As you make offerings in fire and they burn in fire, various spiritual experiences are processed and digested by your internal fire.
 
Tongue is that which allows one to taste things that one is going to accept inside and digest. Each tongue of fire stands for a spirit that controls how you absorb spiritual experiences.
 
*        *        *
 
The seven tongues of Agni are: Kaali, Karaali, Manojava, Sulohita, Sudhoomra-Varna, Sphulingini, and Vishwaruchi.
 
Kaali is the dark and black/blue fire. It symbolizes the spirit of detachment. Spirit of detachment controls how you absorb your experiences, when you are offering in that tongue of fire.
 
Karaali is the monstrous, dreadful fire that looks like a wide open mouth. Spirit of attachment and desire controls how you absorb your experiences, when you are offering in that tongue of fire.
 
Manojava is the swiftly moving, flickering and unstable flame. Spirit of wavering (could also be flexibility) controls how you absorb your experiences, when you are offering in that tongue of fire.
 
Sulohita is the (copper like) dark red color flame. Spirit of determination and strength controls how you absorb your experiences, when you are offering in that tongue of fire.
 
Sudhoomra-Varna is the greyish/purple/smoke-colored fire. Spirit of confusion (could also be resolution of confusion) controls how you absorb your experiences, when you are offering in that tongue of fire.
 
Sphulingini is the fire with sparks. Spirit of aggression and haste (could also be a great intuition/insight) controls how you absorb your experiences, when you are offering in that tongue of fire.
 
Vishwaruchi is the bright fire. Spirit of focus, knowing, being and bliss controls how you absorb your experiences, when you are offering in that tongue of fire.
 
*        *        *
 
As you keep performing homam and a relationship is formed between you and fire, the external fire in the homa kundam will reflect your internal fire. When your mind is well-focused and blissful, the fire will automatically burn bright.
 
The state of your mind will decide how you will taste the spiritual experiences you are going to absorb from around you. That in turn decides which tongues (tasting agents) of your internal fire are receiving food right now. That in turn decides which tongues of the external fire are receiving offerings right now.
 
The external fire is a mirror to your internal state. An adept may be able to detect, looking at the fire, which tongues of fire are active right now and hence guess the state your mind is in.
 
*        *        *
 
Of course, trying to pay too much attention to this technicality and becoming over-conscious of the nature of fire is unneeded. Though external can be used to manipulate the internal (within some limits), it can become a distraction.
 
Whether internal follows external or external follows internal a invalid question. The reality is that the two change together. Neither is the cause and neither is the effect. They just happen together.
 
Without thinkiing much, just make offerings in the fire with the *firm belief* that god is in fire. The rest will happen automatically. It may take time, but it will happen by itself.
 
Best regards,
Narasimha
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Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:13 AM
Subject: [vedic-wisdom] Agni
 
> Namaste
>
> What do the seven "tongues" of Agni mean?
>
> -Regards
> Rajarshi
 


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Namaste What do the seven "tongues" of Agni mean? -Regards Rajarshi...
rajarshi14 Offline Send Email Feb 11, 2009
1:13 pm

Someone please shed some light on this. What is the spirtual/mystical significance of the seven tongues of agni.. The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava -...
rajarshi nandy
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Feb 12, 2009
1:27 pm

Namaste friends, You ask a very good question. Agni is the element of transformation. It symbolizes absorbing and digesting experiences. As you make offerings...
Narasimha P.V.R. Rao
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Feb 13, 2009
3:30 am

Classic mail. The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra ... From: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@...> Subject: [vedic-wisdom] Re: Agni To:...
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Feb 13, 2009
3:49 am

Namaste Narasimha Good Post, Thanks for the definitions What is the source of the definition of fire, is it agni puran? Best Regards Mitesh ... digesting...
m540i98 Offline Send Email Feb 15, 2009
5:38 pm

Dear friends While going through Parashara Pancharatra Samhita, I encountered the following interesting shlokas related to fire of the Homa. These lines are...
Veneet
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Sep 16, 2010
1:44 pm

(Sending again since last message did not display Devanagari properly) अग्निरंगानि होमद्रव्याणि...
Veneet Kumar
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Sep 16, 2010
1:46 pm

Dear Veneet, Thanks for the interesting email. Some other books though differ slight in the way the define the different body-parts of fire. Where the flame...
rajarshi nandy
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Sep 16, 2010
7:14 pm

Namaste, Doing homam in the eyes, ears, nose, hair and tongues of fire is defined in the same way in a few other scriptures. As I said, hyperbole is a common...
Narasimha PVR Rao
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Sep 16, 2010
10:37 pm

Namaste Friends, Few thoughts on the topic: 1) One of the best read on Pavaka is in Rigveda. It has given a very encouraging account of Agni worship. 2) If...
vedic_pathak Offline Send Email Sep 17, 2010
5:33 am

Namaste, I found a noteworthy explanation about Agni: "The great elements starting from Space to Earth are grosser than the former ones. Of these five SPACE...
vedic_pathak Offline Send Email Sep 17, 2010
9:09 am

Namaste: I agree with Utpalji's comment below: *2) If Homam causes diseases, causes suffering, destroys the village & country and its most of the tongues are...
Hemanth Srinivas
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Sep 18, 2010
5:07 am

Dear Narasimha, If you really want to be systematic and draw a conclusion, try homam for many days while making *most* of the offerings on the unburnt wood or...
rajarshi nandy
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Sep 17, 2010
6:34 am

Namaste, ... I may disappoint some with this answer, but I have to be honest. I am not aware of the specific external source of some things I know. I know some...
Narasimha P.V.R. Rao
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Feb 16, 2009
2:10 am

Dear Narasimha Namaste Yes I am little disappointed, I did not expect this from you. I feel that when we put things out on internet, they should be backed up ...
m540i98 Offline Send Email Feb 16, 2009
4:22 pm

Namaste Mitesh   The Mandukya Upanish mentiones of the seven tongues of Agni. I just did a google search. Also I had asked Narasimhaji for his views on the...
rajarshi nandy
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Feb 16, 2009
4:36 pm

Namaste Rajarshi I am not blaming him. I saw the names and definitions and asked him for scriptural reference and he gave a very defensive answer that created...
m540i98 Offline Send Email Feb 16, 2009
6:59 pm

Dear Mitesh, ... my Guru. i am sure he would also have a good laugh. Actually, in my opinion, Narasimha has gone to an emotional zone where he thinks about...
utpal pathak
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Feb 16, 2009
7:46 pm

Namaste Mitesh, I am sure you are not blaming Narasimha but your way of expression clearly shows that you are not familiar with his writings. I had the good...
a_k_r_j Offline Send Email Feb 17, 2009
7:26 pm

Namaste RJ Bhai, I liked your message very much. I share one sentiment completely - "His thinking is crystal clear". i have said this in my message some 6/8...
utpal pathak
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Feb 17, 2009
8:23 pm

Dear RJ Namaste Interesting, My goodness, what a mess! Dear RJ I suggest you need to be a silent reader in both priase and lighter moments or exchange of...
m540i98 Offline Send Email Feb 18, 2009
3:12 pm

Dear Brothers, I think this group and our discussion is a "Nimmitta" as this topic is AGNI and not doubt AGNI/Heat is spreading more or less to each and every...
Jitendra Trivedi
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Feb 18, 2009
3:26 pm

Dear Mitu Bhai, Naaraz Shu kaam thao chho? [ We need to enjoy the moment, be joyful, laugh atleast 20 times a day and most important make others laugh too. We...
utpal pathak
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Feb 18, 2009
4:52 pm

Dear Mitesh and Friends, In view of Narasimhas mail in this connection and Miteshs personal email to me, I will restrain from responding to this...
RJ
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Feb 18, 2009
4:53 pm

Namaste Janak Bhai, Probably final words from me as i just wanted to correct your misunderstanding. what Mitesh meant (if i understood correctly) was not about...
utpal pathak
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Feb 18, 2009
7:51 pm

Dear Mitesh, ... Sorry, I may have confused you a little. The names of the tongues of fire were not "coined" by me. They are actually quite well-known. It is...
Narasimha P.V.R. Rao
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Feb 16, 2009
5:27 pm

Namaste, Personalities come and go and let us not waste time and energy discussing personalities. Praise and criticism are both merely a set of words ...
Narasimha P.V.R. Rao
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Feb 18, 2009
5:10 am

Thanks for the excerpt from parashara samhita it answered few of my questions about how those who misuse fire...
K K
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Sep 16, 2010
2:22 pm

Dear rajarshi, there is another way of looking at the verses. As i see it , it is saying how people with wrong intentions can use homam to their selfish does...
K K
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