Greetings from San Diego.

Please email jpg of "Krazy Katie" immediately.

Also, please advise if I should be acquiring a second FEZ for her for the
October herf.

Geoff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenison Riddell [mailto:kenison@...]
> Sent: September 8, 2001 6:59 PM
> To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vache_vancouver] Made a mistake!
>
>
> Sorry guys (and gal) but last night at a house party i got to
> talking about
> VACHE and "Krazy Katie" has decided to join us on the 19th.
> I didn't invite
> her, because i can't stand her, but i did say "oh it's open
> to anyone who
> wants to come and enjoy a cigar."  So apparently she's
> coming...  Once again
> I am sorry.  If she stays sober and doesn't touch anyone i
> think it might be
> fine...   But i like to prepare for the worst and hope for
> the best. So I'm
> sorry.  Let's just get that out in the open right now.
>
> TTYL
>
> K
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Is this the 17 year old we heard about?
Is she prepared for a guy in a smoking jacket and fez?

At 06:58 PM 2001-09-08 -0700, you wrote:
>Sorry guys (and gal) but last night at a house party i got to talking about
>VACHE and "Krazy Katie" has decided to join us on the 19th.  I didn't invite
>her, because i can't stand her, but i did say "oh it's open to anyone who
>wants to come and enjoy a cigar."  So apparently she's coming...  Once again
>I am sorry.  If she stays sober and doesn't touch anyone i think it might be
>fine...   But i like to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. So I'm
>sorry.  Let's just get that out in the open right now.
>
>TTYL
>
>K
>_________________________________
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>Now i'm a spy for the CIA
>Hooray, for the USA!
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Sorry guys (and gal) but last night at a house party i got to talking about
VACHE and "Krazy Katie" has decided to join us on the 19th.  I didn't invite
her, because i can't stand her, but i did say "oh it's open to anyone who
wants to come and enjoy a cigar."  So apparently she's coming...  Once again
I am sorry.  If she stays sober and doesn't touch anyone i think it might be
fine...   But i like to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. So I'm
sorry.  Let's just get that out in the open right now.

TTYL

K
_________________________________
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I used to make my living picking the bananas.
Now i'm a spy for the CIA
Hooray, for the USA!

I must re-iterate that there will NOT be garments for the Sept. Herf.  The
October herf may be a different matter however (after all, it's halloween)

GG

-----Original Message-----
From: lisa mc [mailto:lisa_mclean@...]
Sent: September 5, 2001 9:58 AM
To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vache_vancouver] September herf....


Glad to hear that there will be garments
I'm in for the 19th @ Woody's

> 19th OK
> Woody's OK
> Will Geoff be wearing his smoking jacket?

Jacket unlikely
Fez unlikely
Garments at October Herf likely

Geoff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Barrett [mailto:mbarrett@...]
> Sent: September 5, 2001 9:01 AM
> To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [vache_vancouver] September herf....
>
>
> 19th OK
> Woody's OK
> Will Geoff be wearing his smoking jacket?
> I found the "anti red-eye" button on my camera.
> But I can't find the "fez" setting.
>
>
> At 12:55 PM 01/09/04 -0700, you wrote:
> >How does the 19th sound to everyone?  Anyone find a cigar
> friendly location
> >in the metro town/lougheed mall area?
> >
> >
> >TTYL
> >
> >K
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I have sent an email to the Mountain Shadow Pub to ask if they would accept
8-10 cigar smokers:

http://www.shadowpub.com

It is located out in North Burnaby, at the base of Burnaby Mountain.  I
remember Mike talking about the old "Blue Boy" as another possible location.

Finally, it might also work if we alternated locations, i.e. one month out
east for the Maple Ridge boys, one month out west for the Vancouver boys.

Just a thought.

Geoff Glave

PS Spoon, if we organized a weekend herf so you could come up from Seattle
when would be good for you?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenison Riddell [mailto:kenison@...]
> Sent: September 4, 2001 4:59 PM
> To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [vache_vancouver] September herf....
>
>
> Well we know woody's is a welcoming establishment.  And i
> have no problems
> going there, however it is a bit of a strech for some members
> as it is in
> coquitlam, remember mike is coming in from main and marine...
>  I would say
> that central burnaby would be better as it is more
> centralized in the GVRD,
> however finding a location would be the key point.  I'm going
> to back peddle
> a bit and quash the lougheed mall area as it is just a few
> blocks up from
> woodys!  let's keep our ears to the pavement and try to find a spot in
> burnaby/new west that will accomodate us, but keep woody's as
> the Unoffical
> spot.
>
> TTYL
>
> K

19th OK
Woody's OK
Will Geoff be wearing his smoking jacket?
I found the "anti red-eye" button on my camera.
But I can't find the "fez" setting.


At 12:55 PM 01/09/04 -0700, you wrote:
>How does the 19th sound to everyone?  Anyone find a cigar friendly location
>in the metro town/lougheed mall area?
>
>
>TTYL
>
>K
>_________________________________
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Well we know woody's is a welcoming establishment.  And i have no problems
going there, however it is a bit of a strech for some members as it is in
coquitlam, remember mike is coming in from main and marine...  I would say
that central burnaby would be better as it is more centralized in the GVRD,
however finding a location would be the key point.  I'm going to back peddle
a bit and quash the lougheed mall area as it is just a few blocks up from
woodys!  let's keep our ears to the pavement and try to find a spot in
burnaby/new west that will accomodate us, but keep woody's as the Unoffical
spot.

TTYL

K
_________________________________
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I used to make my living picking the bananas.
Now i'm a spy for the CIA
Hooray, for the USA!

well put Kevin.  I encourage such research, however I must ask again - If we
are attempting to get a "rep" with Woody's why change venues?

Geoff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Walker [mailto:kwalker@...]
> Sent: September 4, 2001 3:06 PM
> To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [vache_vancouver] September herf....
>
>
> The 19th is good for me.
>
> I don't know the Metro Town area at all, so cannot comment on suitable
> venues in this vicinity. As far as cigar friendly
> establishments in the
> Lougheed Mall area go, there is a "Foggy Dew" on North Road,
> across from the
> Lougheed Mall, between Austin and the Lougheed Highway, right
> next to the
> Executive Suites. While I have not personally indulged in
> cigar smoking in
> this establishment, I have been there in the presence of wafts of the
> unmistakably pungent smoke usually associated with cigars. In
> addition, I
> have not been chastised for smoking my pipe in there either. On the
> contrary, I have usually received most complimentary comments
> from the staff
> and patrons alike on the rather pleasant aroma of the pipe. I would
> recommend, however, that we call or, better still, undertake some
> reconnaissance to establish the house rules regarding cigar
> smoking prior to
> attempting a Vache "Staff-Meeting", unannounced. I would be
> only too happy
> to undertake this exercise as the Foggy Dew is reasonably
> close to where I
> live and, with somewhat of a stretch of the imagination, could even be
> considered to be on my way home.
>
> Any further thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Kevin.
>
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> From: Kenison Riddell [mailto:kenison@...]
> Sent: September 4, 2001 12:56 PM
> To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vache_vancouver] September herf....
>
>
> How does the 19th sound to everyone?  Anyone find a cigar
> friendly location
> in the metro town/lougheed mall area?
>
>
> TTYL
>
> K
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The 19th is good for me.

I don't know the Metro Town area at all, so cannot comment on suitable
venues in this vicinity. As far as cigar friendly establishments in the
Lougheed Mall area go, there is a "Foggy Dew" on North Road, across from the
Lougheed Mall, between Austin and the Lougheed Highway, right next to the
Executive Suites. While I have not personally indulged in cigar smoking in
this establishment, I have been there in the presence of wafts of the
unmistakably pungent smoke usually associated with cigars. In addition, I
have not been chastised for smoking my pipe in there either. On the
contrary, I have usually received most complimentary comments from the staff
and patrons alike on the rather pleasant aroma of the pipe. I would
recommend, however, that we call or, better still, undertake some
reconnaissance to establish the house rules regarding cigar smoking prior to
attempting a Vache "Staff-Meeting", unannounced. I would be only too happy
to undertake this exercise as the Foggy Dew is reasonably close to where I
live and, with somewhat of a stretch of the imagination, could even be
considered to be on my way home.

Any further thoughts?

Regards,
Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenison Riddell [mailto:kenison@...]
Sent: September 4, 2001 12:56 PM
To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vache_vancouver] September herf....


How does the 19th sound to everyone?  Anyone find a cigar friendly location
in the metro town/lougheed mall area?


TTYL

K
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K,

Herf time!  And here I am with a new box of JR's (Honduran) Punch I need to
crack open!

19th works for me... As for "near lougheed mall," that sounds like Woody's!

I'll find out about The Mountain Shadow Inn, although that's more North
Burnaby than Metrotown's South Burnaby.

Geoff Glave
(Some Guys Drank it All)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenison Riddell [mailto:kenison@...]
> Sent: September 4, 2001 12:56 PM
> To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vache_vancouver] September herf....
>
>
> How does the 19th sound to everyone?  Anyone find a cigar
> friendly location
> in the metro town/lougheed mall area?
>
>
> TTYL
>
> K
>

How does the 19th sound to everyone?  Anyone find a cigar friendly location
in the metro town/lougheed mall area?


TTYL

K
_________________________________
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I used to make my living picking the bananas.
Now i'm a spy for the CIA
Hooray, for the USA!

My vote is Wednesday or Mondays :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Glave [mailto:gglave@...]
Sent: August 28, 2001 11:57 AM
To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vache_vancouver] Has nothing to do with Geoff's fez


K,

I have been replying to your emails to the group, not just to you... Is that
correct?

> herf meeting.  Monday, wenesday thrusday nights will work
> best for me.  let
> me know.

I vote Monday or Wednesday for regular herf nights.  But... we should try to
talk to our Seattle compatriots and find out if they'd come to a special
weekend herf.

Geoff



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K,

I have been replying to your emails to the group, not just to you... Is that
correct?

> herf meeting.  Monday, wenesday thrusday nights will work
> best for me.  let
> me know.

I vote Monday or Wednesday for regular herf nights.  But... we should try to
talk to our Seattle compatriots and find out if they'd come to a special
weekend herf.

Geoff

I agree with mike on two fronts... 1) a regular date and 2) how can I get me
some of those Kenison cast-off 17 palm-obsessed 17 year olds.

GG

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Barrett [mailto:mbarrett@...]
> Sent: August 28, 2001 9:42 AM
> To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [vache_vancouver] RE: the VACHE manifestos...
>
>
> One thing that has worked well with my professional groups to
> maintain a
> good attendance, is to designate a particular night of the
> month as a herf
> night.
> Ex. "Every third Tuesday"
> That way folks can plan activities in advance, and are not
> scrambling due
> to a last minute herf announcement.
> For many years we had a Biomed group that met "first Tue. of
> the month" at
> the UBC Faculty Club, and folks ( sometimes from all over
> Canada) would
> show up because they knew "first Tues? : must be Vancouver
> BME meeting"
> We are not quite so successfull with our current IBET group,
> partly because
> we meet on the " 4th Thursday" and a lot of folks mistake
> that for  "the
> last Thurs." and get their calendars all messed up.
> I would like to have a fixed date in my PalmPilot that
> reminds me "it's
> herf time".
> Of course I would have to check for 17 year old coeds before
> I "whipped it
> out".
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One thing that has worked well with my professional groups to maintain a
good attendance, is to designate a particular night of the month as a herf
night.
Ex. "Every third Tuesday"
That way folks can plan activities in advance, and are not scrambling due
to a last minute herf announcement.
For many years we had a Biomed group that met "first Tue. of the month" at
the UBC Faculty Club, and folks ( sometimes from all over Canada) would
show up because they knew "first Tues? : must be Vancouver BME meeting"
We are not quite so successfull with our current IBET group, partly because
we meet on the " 4th Thursday" and a lot of folks mistake that for  "the
last Thurs." and get their calendars all messed up.
I would like to have a fixed date in my PalmPilot that reminds me "it's
herf time".
Of course I would have to check for 17 year old coeds before I "whipped it
out".

Commander Bob
"It solders, it brazes, it lights cigars"

What are people's preference? The Red Fez of the leopard?  I lean towards
the red, even though it's sold out...

http://store.yahoo.com/manplanet/redfez.html

http://store.yahoo.com/manplanet/leopardfez.html

GG

============================

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Alexander Martin [mailto:ianalexandermartin@...]
Sent: August 27, 2001 11:54 PM
To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vache_vancouver] Geoff's New Fez


Hmm… an interesting question.

I think the place to start (assuming that there is no location of “Fez-R-Us”
in town, is “I love Hats & Accessories” on Broadway, 1/2 block east of
Granville.  They may or may not be able to help you.

There is also a place in Seattle, I’m told, that is a splendid source of
Head-Apparel.  Near the Market, I think - certainly in the Downtown Area.

Or, you can just mug a the next Shriner as he passes in one of those little
cars…

NOTICE: the above is in no way an endorsement of, or encouragement of the
reader to engage in, the engagement in violence with any individual;
including (but not limited to), Shriners, Masons, Elks, Rotarians, Sons of
Norway, or any other group of men who may or may not wear silly hats and/ or
drive really stupid small cars in parades.

-----------------------------------------------------
IAN ALEXANDER MARTIN

K,

> Herf attendance is a key thing and it definetly needs to be
> worked on.

The one comment I might make about our herfs (Geoff ducks for cover) is that
for the uninitiated they could be intimidating.  What I mean by that is I am
sure there are many "casual" cigar smokers out there - People who would
enjoy getting together once a month with a bunch of other folks to smoke a
cigars, but who aren't up on all the cigar lingo and cigar culture. (At the
risk of making assumptions I suspect you could put Lisa in that category,
and other friends I might bring into the circle would too.) At the New West
"tugboat" herf the conversation delved very deeply into talk of Rubustos and
Churchills and the like - ISOMs and ASC.  You saw something slightly
different at the Woody's herf - My end of the table seemed to discuss more
general issues of interest - Motorcycles, immigration, South Africa,
travel - The other end seemed to have more cigar-heavy topics.  This may
work best.

I'm not saying cigar-heavy is bad, we are a cigar club after all, but if we
want to keep people interested we have to sensitive to the conversations
that happen at these events.

> Hey are you just in this for free sticks?

LOL!  Seems like a lot of work to get a free stick :)

[snip]

> mentions they
> are new smokers, or that they are from out of town and that VACHE
> reccomended this shop.  It's a great trick and it works!

It is a good trick, provided the management that got the letter is there
when you buy the cigars!

> Geoff we need to get together and have a meeting/herf.
> What's your schedual
> looking like this week?

On Thursday August 30th I board a plane and fly to my brother's wedding in
New Mexico.  I return the evening of Monday, Sept. 3.  I am in town the
following week, and board another plane of the afternoon of Sunday Sept. 9
to fly to San Diego on business.  I return from that trip on the evening of
Thursday Sept. 13.  Bottom line?  Either week of Tues 4 - Sat 8 or after
Mon 16th.

Geoff

----- Original Message -----

From: Geoff Glave

To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:00 PM

Subject: RE: [vache_vancouver] Geoff's New Fez

Fine work, K.

You _do_ realize I have to find myself a smoking jacket and fez for the next
herf, don't you?

Geoff

PS Ropey - Where can I get a fez?

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> From: Kenison Riddell [mailto:kenison@...]
> Sent: August 27, 2001 4:53 PM
> To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vache_vancouver] Geoff's New Fez
>
>
> Good thing i don't have photo-shop...
>
> --
> why am i not experiencing the happiness
> i am being sold?
>
> I love suburban Vancouver BC,
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K,

> Perhaps there also needs to be a set declaration of what
> VACHE exactly is.
> An informal group that gets together to smoke cigars, or a
> cigar smoking
> club/organisation?   For now it seems to be just a group of
> smokers, which
> is great.  But I for one, would really like to turn it into
> the latter.

I agree - The "club" is better.  It would be great if VACHE got the "rep" in
town as being _the_ group that cared about cigars.  But I think to make that
happen we need to work hard to increase the turnout at the herfs.  (Don't
get me wrong - I am not saying people aren't working hard.)  I would think
if we have at least 10 people that are getting together regularly that would
be a good start.  I mean it would be perfect if those cigar distributors
started realized VACHE was a force, and then started gifting us sticks.  We
could herf 'em, and then report back.

> [snip]
> Regardless I would like
> to have an open
> invitation to visiting cigar smokers when the come to BC/Vancouver.

Definitely!

> On the topic of Woody's.  We've stumbled onto a good thing
> here.  We could
> really work with management on VACHE nights and maybe have
> the whole bar
> smoking cigars.  When we walked into that place, it wasn't
> empty.  It was a
> Tuesday and that place was at least 60% full.  Most pubs i
> know are lucky to
> hit 40% on a rainy Tuesday night.  Look how empty the met
> was, and they
> didn't want our business.  Woody's although quite busy for
> the night still
> welcomed us and encouraged us to come back.  We should work
> the mid-week
> business boost angle with them the next time we go there.
> We've stumbled
> onto a cow that milks very easily.. (booo!! bad joke!!)  We
> might also look
> into some local shops assisting with promotions too.  Think
> about 1 customer
> from every local cigar shop showing up?  We'd have upwards of
> 30 people!

Yes, I agree!  The next time we are the shops we should ask them if they
would put up a notice (after we buy a couple cigars!).  It might also be
worthwile if each VACHEr bought a cigar online from local vendors and asked
if they'd include a notice about us in their email list.  I am sure there
are lots of smokers who are not on ASC - Usenet is still intimidating to a
lot of people.

My only thought might be that as the winter turns (And with the smoking ban
now Apr 30th) it might be worthwhile trying one more indoor location other
than Woody's - i.e. The Jolly Taxpayer.  (Remaining at all times sensitive
to people's travel distances!)

> If Mike's pictures turn
> out we can have a
> little photo gallery of mug shots, group shots, and herfs in action.

Exactly.  We could even get our pick in CA (shudder.)

> For the time
> being let's all
> try to work on bringing more people to the herfs and
> developing more of an
> idea of just what VACHE is and will be.

Precisely - For the next couple of herfs our goal should be to get as many
people out as possible!

Geoff "Mr. Fez" Glave

Fine work, K.

You _do_ realize I have to find myself a smoking jacket and fez for the next
herf, don't you?

Geoff

PS Ropey - Where can I get a fez?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenison Riddell [mailto:kenison@...]
> Sent: August 27, 2001 4:53 PM
> To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vache_vancouver] Geoff's New Fez
>
>
> Good thing i don't have photo-shop...
>
> --
> why am i not experiencing the happiness
> i am being sold?
>
> I love suburban Vancouver BC,
> Kenison R.
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Good thing i don't have photo-shop...

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why am i not experiencing the happiness
i am being sold?

I love suburban Vancouver BC,
Kenison R.
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As some of you may have sussed, VACHE (the Vancouver Area Cigar Herfing
Ensemble) has started its own mailing list, via Yahoo Groups.

Messages sent to the mailing list will be disseminated to all members, as
will all replies.  The list is unmoderated (for now), so all are welcome to
join and add to the fray.  It is not our intention to fracture the ASC
community - ASC remains the premier location for general cigar chit chat.
The VACHE mailing list is useful for those topics that are
Vancouver-centric, or not appropriate to ASC (such as ongoing discussions
about our logo, my new fez or debate as to the date of our next herf.)

All interested parties are welcome to join in the fun and subscribe
(especially those online from Vancouver, Washington).

To subscribe to the mailing list, send an email with the subject header
"subscribe" to:
vache_vancouver-subscribe AT yahoogroups.com

To post a message to the group which will be received by all the
subscribers, send an email to:
vache_vancouver AT yahoogroups.com

To unsubscribe to the list, send an email detailing why you don't love us
anymore to:
vache_vancouver-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com

In all cases, in the email addresses above, delete the spaces and replace
the "AT" with the obvious symbol which is sometimes, but not always, located
on the [2] key...

Geoff Glave

Excellent VACHE photo michael...

I shrank it a little and threw it up on the web.  If you want to post it to
ASC, here's the link:

<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1622437&a=13683763&f=0>

Geoff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Barrett [mailto:mbarrett@...]
> Sent: August 26, 2001 8:53 PM
> To: Kenison Riddell
> Cc: Geoff Glave
> Subject: Re: did it turn out?
>
>
> I only got a chance to download it from the camera when I got
> home. My work
> computer does not have a USB port, but I'm supposed to be
> getting a laptop
> on Monday that will have one.
> It's not bad considering I was at about the flash limit, and
> have not had
> the camera long enough to figure out quite how all the
> buttons work yet;
> still using auto everything. Hope to make some better pix in future.
> Want one of Geoff in his fez and smoking jacket.
>
> At 07:01 PM 2001-08-24 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hey did that digital photo you took work out?  If it did,
> could you post it
> >up at that Yahoo group that Geoff has set up?  I think it
> would be great.
> >If it didn't work, is there any chance of taking some snaps
> at the next herf
> >so we can put them up on the group for anyone who is
> interested in seeing
> >them?
> >
> >TTYL
> >
> >K
> >_________________________________
> >PT4 on the way to Havana
> >I used to make my living picking the bananas.
> >Now i'm a spy for the CIA
> >Hooray, for the USA!
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenison Riddell" <kenison@...>
To: "Geoff Glave" <gglave@...>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: the VACHE manifestos...


> not thinking of a crest... alright, maybe there is some common ground.
I'd
> be happy if the background to the logo was a Holstein cow pattern.  We can
> worry about mascot's later.  As for the "...a slightly higher level of
> class" comments, I'll save that for later ;)
>
> Perhaps there also needs to be a set declaration of what VACHVE exactly
is.
> An informal group that gets together to smoke cigars, or a cigar smoking
> club/organisation?   For now it seems to be just a group of smokers, which
> is great.  But I for one, would really like to turn it into the latter.
We
> could develop some sort of  mission statement... to the effects of "VACHE
is
> dedicated to cigars, the pursuit and endorsement of cigar friendly
> establishments, and to bring new people into the wonderful world of cigar
> smoking."   Something like that.  Welcoming and brining new people into
> cigars is also an ASC thing.  I'm not saying we should turn into the
> herftones and have a little newbie scholarship every month, but i think
> bringing in as many people to a herf is important.  However, this is all
on
> the horizon as of yet.  For now let's try to keep the horse in front of
the
> cart.  I know i can often get carried away on this sort of thing!
>
> VACHE ought to also act as a ambassador's to Vancouver for visiting cigar
> smokers.  Recommending shops, restaurants maybe even having a herf with
> them.  Just to increase the good ol' boy network of ASC and smokers alike.
> When people who smoke cigars come to Vancouver they know to drop us a line
> first for information.  I'm quite proud of this city and i like to show it
> off to visitors.  Listen to Mike talk about his travels, before going to a
> city he checks the cigar scene out.  He's currently trying to link up with
> the Madison herfers for his next trip... It would be great for this to
> happen in Vancouver.  when smokers talk about Vancouver they'd recommend
> contacting us.  In time we could make it quite a big thing where we could
> have an annual crawl like Seattle does (did) or perhaps have woody's
declare
> every third Tuesday a cigar night... Regardless I would like to have an
open
> invitation to visiting cigar smokers when the come to BC/Vancouver.
>
> On the topic of Woody's.  We've stumbled onto a good thing here.  We could
> really work with management on VACHE nights and maybe have the whole bar
> smoking cigars.  When we walked into that place, it wasn't empty.  It was
a
> Tuesday and that place was at least 60% full.  Most pubs i know are lucky
to
> hit 40% on a rainy Tuesday night.  Look how empty the met was, and they
> didn't want our business.  Woody's although quite busy for the night still
> welcomed us and encouraged us to come back.  We should work the mid-week
> business boost angle with them the next time we go there.  We've stumbled
> onto a cow that milks very easily.. (booo!! bad joke!!)  We might also
look
> into some local shops assisting with promotions too.  Think about 1
customer
> from every local cigar shop showing up?  We'd have upwards of 30 people!
>
> The Yahoo club was a really good idea.  It gives people outside our group
to
> see what's going on in our city.  Once it gets going I'll add the link to
my
> sig file.  In time, perhaps an actual website will be needed, but for now
it
> will serve the purpose very well.  If Mike's pictures turn out we can have
a
> little photo gallery of mug shots, group shots, and herfs in action.
>
> It is pretty easy to see that you are excited about this VACHE concept.  I
> too am quite excited.  If you're anything like me though you might get
> carried away with things too.  Let's try to keep the reins firm for now.
> This has the potential to turn a great thing, and being optimistic I think
> it will turn out to be quite a great thing.  For the time being let's all
> try to work on bringing more people to the herfs and developing more of an
> idea of just what VACHE is and will be.
>
> TTYL
>
> K
> _________________________________
> PT4 on the way to Havana
> I used to make my living picking the bananas.
> Now i'm a spy for the CIA
> Hooray, for the USA!
>

And I gave you a ride home???  ICK!

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Glave [mailto:gglave@...]
Sent: August 24, 2001 9:31 AM
To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vache_vancouver] huge boils


only if we end up with more chicks in VACHE.
g

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Holland [mailto:kdutch@...]
> Sent: August 24, 2001 4:25 PM
> To: vache_vancouver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vache_vancouver] (unknown)
>
>
> Well if everyone gets these messages, I better not talk about
> that huge boil
> on my ass.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> oops.
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only if we end up with more chicks in VACHE.
g

> -----Original Message-----
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