To make a full-fledged Blu-ray disc, you have to use Blu-ray blanks--
and they're not cheap.  To make normal SD DVD discs, of course, normal
DVD-R media is fine.

What I do (having not bought a BD burner yet--waiting for the blanks
to get about 50% cheaper...) is burn BD-5--Blu-ray on DVD-R.  There's
some tweaking involved, but I've been able to produce discs that play
in all the Blu-ray players I've tried at full HD, with data rates around
15 mbps.  The media won't hold a lot of footage--depending on the bit
rate you go for, 20-35 minutes is what I get--but given that my UW videos
run about 5 minutes, this hasn't been a problem so far.

--Richard

Quoting Roger Roth <rroth2@...>:

> Hello all,
>
> Well I finally went to HD with Sony's HC-9 in Gates housing.  New computer
> with Edius editing system that is phenomonal!
>
> I have a Blue-ray burner that's also capable of burning regular DVD's for
> people who don't have Blue-ray.  Can I use the same type of DVD that I used
> for SD, or is there a special DVD for HD productions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Roger Roth
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hello all,

Well I finally went to HD with Sony's HC-9 in Gates housing.  New computer
with Edius editing system that is phenomonal!

I have a Blue-ray burner that's also capable of burning regular DVD's for
people who don't have Blue-ray.  Can I use the same type of DVD that I used
for SD, or is there a special DVD for HD productions?

Thanks!

Roger Roth


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Steve-

Egypt is getting closer, or at least our departure time is. Any tips for
packing for the land part of the trip?

Will

An acquaintance of mine is selling a couple of HD video systems
(camera, housing, lights, etc.) at good prices. I told him I'd post
his announcement here. His email address, if you're interested, is
fred@....

Mike Boom

=========================================

I have decided to sell my high-definition underwater camera
systems due to persisting ear problems.   The Sony FX1 system is 5
years old and sell for $3300.  See:
http://www.globevideoproductions.com/FX1.html for details.

The second, smaller HD system contains a Sony HC7 camcorder.  It is 3
years old and sells for $2200.  See:
http://www.globevideoproductions.com/HC7.html for details.

Fred Heiman
____________________________
www.globevideoproductions.com

Hi, all,

I've got a single brand-new, unused Amphibico Discovery 10 HID video
light for sale. It's a beautifully tooled piece of equipment that
accepts 52mm filters if you want to try bluing the light for mixing
with natural underwater light using manual white balance. Although
it's a video light, it will work just fine as a modeling light for
still photography or even a hand-held light if you care to create a
handle for it. It comes with two Loc-Line arms, mounting screws, and
spare o-rings.

It does *not* include batteries or a charger. Amphibico doesn't make
batteries or ship them, but instead has designed the light to use a
pair of standard Sony NNP-F550 or NP-F570 batteries. That's a big
plus when it comes time to get new or spare batteries, since these
standard batteries cost much less than custom light batteries typically cost.

You can see details about the light at: http://tinyurl.com/yk43596.

I'm asking $600 plus shipping for the light, which is less than half
of Amphibico's retail price for the light. If you're interested,
please contact me off-list.

Thanks,

Mike Boom

Thanks for the reply.  I have obtained a good phone number for Warren.



   _____

From: uwvideo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:uwvideo@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
s_speck
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:11 AM
To: uwvideo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [uwvideo] Re: Under Sea Video Housings





--- In uwvideo@yahoogroups <mailto:uwvideo%40yahoogroups.com> .com, "Doug
Goepfert" <dgoepfert@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if Under Sea Video Housings is still in business?

http://www.digitald
<http://www.digitaldiver.net/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadi
d=25145> iver.net/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=25145





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--- In uwvideo@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Goepfert" <dgoepfert@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if Under Sea Video Housings is still in business?

http://www.digitaldiver.net/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=251\
45

Doug, you might try calling Warren Geissert, the owner, at (916) 989-5438. 
Phone calls always seemed to work better for me than relying on his email
(info@...).  Good luck.

--- In uwvideo@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Goepfert" <dgoepfert@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if Under Sea Video Housings is still in business?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug Goepfert
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Does anyone know if Under Sea Video Housings is still in business?



Thanks,

Doug Goepfert



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Roger,
      The Sony 520 is a decent little cam.  I wouldn't want it for
topside stuff unless I had a good tripod.  On the other hand, the
Canon HFS10 is the same size and price and in a side by side
comparison of the footage, the Canon wins going away.   L & M also
makes an excellent housing for it as well.  Both use the HDAVC codec
and log and transfer is the ingestion method.   She should check to
make sure that her NLE can handle the footage otherwise she will be
one very unhappy lady.
       Steve Douglas
On Jul 31, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Roger Roth wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Does anyone know anything about the Sony XR 520 camcorder? A friend
> of mine
> asked me about it, but I don't know any good or bad about it. She's
> thinking about this camera with the LMI BlueFin Pro housing. Any
> feedback
> would be greatly appreciated. Sea Ya!
>
> Roger Roth
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

WORLD FILMS & TRAVEL
WWW.WORLDFILMSANDTRAVEL.COM <http://www.WORLDFILMSANDTRAVEL.COM

Steve Douglas
5260 Mary Fellows Ave
La Mesa, Ca. 91942
619-464-4505
steve-sharksdelight@...





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello all,

Does anyone know anything about the Sony XR 520 camcorder?  A friend of mine
asked me about it, but I don't know any good or bad about it.  She's
thinking about this camera with the LMI BlueFin Pro housing.  Any feedback
would be greatly appreciated.  Sea Ya!

Roger Roth


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear group,

Before the press release is sent, we like to inform all underwater filmmakers
about the coming event:

The third edition of the North Sea Film Festival is definitely on! The one and
only Dutch underwater filmfestival will take place November 13, 14 & 15 at 
Studio/K  in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Filmmakers are invited to contribute to
this dynamic festival, which gained a lot of respect in a short time.

Philosophy did not change: filmmakers are still important to us (so we don't do
entry fees), we continue the Q&A sessions after film screenings, host an
information market and workshops.

Important changes are the move to Amsterdam and the name change for the
categories as the old names carried too much of a category ranking:

IC - INDIE CATEGORY  for independent producers with films up to 26 minutes
PC - PRO CATEGORY for professional production bureaus with films up to 60
minutes.

We skipped all paperwork with the new on-line registration system on the
website.

We hope you are able to contribute to a successful North Sea Film Festival in
Amsterdam and are looking forward to receive your entry!

on behalf of the North Sea Film Festival organisation,

(signing this time as festival director)

Edward Snijders

I've had good luck on ebay getting camcorders as have many of my UW video
students.  Just be sure to read everything about the cameras; what's
included, what's not included, etc.  Also read whether it is in working
condition!

Also as Jim M. suggested, check out the seller's profiles and ratings.  Sea
Ya!

Roger Roth

   _____

From: uwvideo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:uwvideo@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Douglas
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:32 PM
To: uwvideo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [uwvideo] Re: Sony A1U





Be careful of ebay, I have two friends who each lost 2k trying to buy
camcorders.
Steve
On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:54 AM, William Kimlinger wrote:

>
>
> Cool- thanks for the excellent advice! I've got an HC7 in the housing
> now but Amphibico doesn't have a manual white balance option for that
> camera, only the A1U. My old and beloved TRV-900 did auto white
> balance
> so well I thought I could get by with the auto on HC7...not so!!
>
> I'll check out ebay.
>
> Will
>
> Jim McGauhey wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In uwvideo@yahoogroups <mailto:uwvideo%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:uwvideo%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > William Kimlinger <will@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all.
> > >
> > > I'm looking for a used Sony HVR-A1U to put in my amphibico
> housing. If
> > > anyone knows of one for sale I'd appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Will Kimlinger
> > > www.tortugavideo.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > I've purchased 2 off ebay with good luck, but you might have to
> wait a
> > month for a really good deal. There's a lot of demand for this
> camera.
> > My first one broke and I tried to fix it myself. Bad idea! (These
> > cameras have a problem with false moisture alarm, pro fix is about
> > $400.) Right now there's one mid-bid at about $875, but with 28 bids
> > there's a lot of interest and it will surely go much higher. Up to
> > $1,500 is an OK deal. Careful of A1J sold as A1U. I look very
> closely
> > at sellers feedback. It hard for a 200,000 transaction seller to get
> > 100% positive, go I'll go with 98.5% or more, wanting higher % as
> # of
> > transactions gets lower. To eliminate the many hundreds of hits that
> > aren't cameras, my search criteria is
> >
> > sony a1u -battery -lens -kit -case -for
> >
> > I never buy the kits as they come with lots of overpriced junk. I
> also
> > buy my tapes about 50 at a time, using Sony Premium, blue wrapper,
> for
> > less than $3. I find the HD tapes aren't necessary; one review
> showed
> > HD tapes had more drop-outs! I've been shooting an A1U in Ocean
> Images
> > for almost 4 years now. Set the one button assignable to white
> > balance, if you have a control for that button. This is a very
> popular
> > camera for run 'n gun reality shows, so demand is high.
> >
> > I also bought a HC1 as a backup. Same camera without XLR sound, some
> > software differences, and one button white balance. Since the Ocean
> > Images housing has optional controls to use the touch screen
> menus, I
> > can set HC1 white balance via menu. Or review footage during
> safety or
> > deco stops.
> >
> > Consider HC1 also as it has same imager at about $500+ less cost.
> > Unless you want XLR for surface sound. I think they both offere
> zebra
> > stripes, etc, although I'm not certain on HC1 as I don't use this
> > feature. I'm usually shooting with lights. Can always get a Beachtek
> > for XLR sound at less than the difference. I'm now building a 35mm
> > lens adapter for using 35mm still camera lenses for narrow depth of
> > field. For surface work, of course.
> >
> > Good luck, it's a great camera.
> >
> > Jim McGauhey
> > Washington State
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.1/2212 - Release Date:
> 07/01/09 05:53:00
> >
> >
>
>

WORLD FILMS & TRAVEL
WWW.WORLDFILMSANDTRAVEL.COM <http://www.WORLDFIL
<http://www.WORLDFILMSANDTRAVEL.COM> MSANDTRAVEL.COM

Steve Douglas
5260 Mary Fellows Ave
La Mesa, Ca. 91942
619-464-4505
steve-sharksdelight <mailto:steve-sharksdelight%40cox.net> @cox.net

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Be careful of ebay, I have two friends who each lost 2k trying to buy
camcorders.
Steve
On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:54 AM, William Kimlinger wrote:

>
>
> Cool- thanks for the excellent advice! I've got an HC7 in the housing
> now but Amphibico doesn't have a manual white balance option for that
> camera, only the A1U. My old and beloved TRV-900 did auto white
> balance
> so well I thought I could get by with the auto on HC7...not so!!
>
> I'll check out ebay.
>
> Will
>
> Jim McGauhey wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In uwvideo@yahoogroups.com <mailto:uwvideo%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > William Kimlinger <will@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all.
> > >
> > > I'm looking for a used Sony HVR-A1U to put in my amphibico
> housing. If
> > > anyone knows of one for sale I'd appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Will Kimlinger
> > > www.tortugavideo.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > I've purchased 2 off ebay with good luck, but you might have to
> wait a
> > month for a really good deal. There's a lot of demand for this
> camera.
> > My first one broke and I tried to fix it myself. Bad idea! (These
> > cameras have a problem with false moisture alarm, pro fix is about
> > $400.) Right now there's one mid-bid at about $875, but with 28 bids
> > there's a lot of interest and it will surely go much higher. Up to
> > $1,500 is an OK deal. Careful of A1J sold as A1U. I look very
> closely
> > at sellers feedback. It hard for a 200,000 transaction seller to get
> > 100% positive, go I'll go with 98.5% or more, wanting higher % as
> # of
> > transactions gets lower. To eliminate the many hundreds of hits that
> > aren't cameras, my search criteria is
> >
> > sony a1u -battery -lens -kit -case -for
> >
> > I never buy the kits as they come with lots of overpriced junk. I
> also
> > buy my tapes about 50 at a time, using Sony Premium, blue wrapper,
> for
> > less than $3. I find the HD tapes aren't necessary; one review
> showed
> > HD tapes had more drop-outs! I've been shooting an A1U in Ocean
> Images
> > for almost 4 years now. Set the one button assignable to white
> > balance, if you have a control for that button. This is a very
> popular
> > camera for run 'n gun reality shows, so demand is high.
> >
> > I also bought a HC1 as a backup. Same camera without XLR sound, some
> > software differences, and one button white balance. Since the Ocean
> > Images housing has optional controls to use the touch screen
> menus, I
> > can set HC1 white balance via menu. Or review footage during
> safety or
> > deco stops.
> >
> > Consider HC1 also as it has same imager at about $500+ less cost.
> > Unless you want XLR for surface sound. I think they both offere
> zebra
> > stripes, etc, although I'm not certain on HC1 as I don't use this
> > feature. I'm usually shooting with lights. Can always get a Beachtek
> > for XLR sound at less than the difference. I'm now building a 35mm
> > lens adapter for using 35mm still camera lenses for narrow depth of
> > field. For surface work, of course.
> >
> > Good luck, it's a great camera.
> >
> > Jim McGauhey
> > Washington State
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.1/2212 - Release Date:
> 07/01/09 05:53:00
> >
> >
>
>

WORLD FILMS & TRAVEL
WWW.WORLDFILMSANDTRAVEL.COM <http://www.WORLDFILMSANDTRAVEL.COM

Steve Douglas
5260 Mary Fellows Ave
La Mesa, Ca. 91942
619-464-4505
steve-sharksdelight@...





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Cool- thanks for the excellent advice! I've got an HC7 in the housing
now but Amphibico doesn't have a manual white balance option for that
camera, only the A1U. My old and beloved TRV-900 did auto white balance
so well I thought I could get by with the auto on HC7...not so!!

I'll check out ebay.

Will



Jim McGauhey wrote:
>
>
> --- In uwvideo@yahoogroups.com <mailto:uwvideo%40yahoogroups.com>,
> William Kimlinger <will@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all.
> >
> > I'm looking for a used Sony HVR-A1U to put in my amphibico housing. If
> > anyone knows of one for sale I'd appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Will Kimlinger
> > www.tortugavideo.com
> >
>
>
> I've purchased 2 off ebay with good luck, but you might have to wait a
> month for a really good deal. There's a lot of demand for this camera.
> My first one broke and I tried to fix it myself. Bad idea! (These
> cameras have a problem with false moisture alarm, pro fix is about
> $400.) Right now there's one mid-bid at about $875, but with 28 bids
> there's a lot of interest and it will surely go much higher. Up to
> $1,500 is an OK deal. Careful of A1J sold as A1U. I look very closely
> at sellers feedback. It hard for a 200,000 transaction seller to get
> 100% positive, go I'll go with 98.5% or more, wanting higher % as # of
> transactions gets lower. To eliminate the many hundreds of hits that
> aren't cameras, my search criteria is
>
> sony a1u -battery -lens -kit -case -for
>
> I never buy the kits as they come with lots of overpriced junk. I also
> buy my tapes about 50 at a time, using Sony Premium, blue wrapper, for
> less than $3. I find the HD tapes aren't necessary; one review showed
> HD tapes had more drop-outs! I've been shooting an A1U in Ocean Images
> for almost 4 years now. Set the one button assignable to white
> balance, if you have a control for that button. This is a very popular
> camera for run 'n gun reality shows, so demand is high.
>
> I also bought a HC1 as a backup. Same camera without XLR sound, some
> software differences, and one button white balance. Since the Ocean
> Images housing has optional controls to use the touch screen menus, I
> can set HC1 white balance via menu. Or review footage during safety or
> deco stops.
>
> Consider HC1 also as it has same imager at about $500+ less cost.
> Unless you want XLR for surface sound. I think they both offere zebra
> stripes, etc, although I'm not certain on HC1 as I don't use this
> feature. I'm usually shooting with lights. Can always get a Beachtek
> for XLR sound at less than the difference. I'm now building a 35mm
> lens adapter for using 35mm still camera lenses for narrow depth of
> field. For surface work, of course.
>
> Good luck, it's a great camera.
>
> Jim McGauhey
> Washington State
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.1/2212 - Release Date: 07/01/09
05:53:00
>
>

The HC-1 has no assignable button which I use for white balancing.
That is the one feature that makes the A1-U so  much more valuable and
worth the money.  Also, for topside work, the XLR audio and boom mic
adds a little weight to the cam making it easier to shoot steady
handheld shots.
   steve
On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Jim McGauhey wrote:

>
>
> --- In uwvideo@yahoogroups.com, William Kimlinger <will@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all.
> >
> > I'm looking for a used Sony HVR-A1U to put in my amphibico
> housing. If
> > anyone knows of one for sale I'd appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Will Kimlinger
> > www.tortugavideo.com
> >
>
>
> I've purchased 2 off ebay with good luck, but you might have to wait
> a month for a really good deal. There's a lot of demand for this
> camera. My first one broke and I tried to fix it myself. Bad idea!
> (These cameras have a problem with false moisture alarm, pro fix is
> about $400.) Right now there's one mid-bid at about $875, but with
> 28 bids there's a lot of interest and it will surely go much higher.
> Up to $1,500 is an OK deal. Careful of A1J sold as A1U. I look very
> closely at sellers feedback. It hard for a 200,000 transaction
> seller to get 100% positive, go I'll go with 98.5% or more, wanting
> higher % as # of transactions gets lower. To eliminate the many
> hundreds of hits that aren't cameras, my search criteria is
>
> sony a1u -battery -lens -kit -case -for
>
> I never buy the kits as they come with lots of overpriced junk. I
> also buy my tapes about 50 at a time, using Sony Premium, blue
> wrapper, for less than $3. I find the HD tapes aren't necessary; one
> review showed HD tapes had more drop-outs! I've been shooting an A1U
> in Ocean Images for almost 4 years now. Set the one button
> assignable to white balance, if you have a control for that button.
> This is a very popular camera for run 'n gun reality shows, so
> demand is high.
>
> I also bought a HC1 as a backup. Same camera without XLR sound, some
> software differences, and one button white balance. Since the Ocean
> Images housing has optional controls to use the touch screen menus,
> I can set HC1 white balance via menu. Or review footage during
> safety or deco stops.
>
> Consider HC1 also as it has same imager at about $500+ less cost.
> Unless you want XLR for surface sound. I think they both offere
> zebra stripes, etc, although I'm not certain on HC1 as I don't use
> this feature. I'm usually shooting with lights. Can always get a
> Beachtek for XLR sound at less than the difference. I'm now building
> a 35mm lens adapter for using 35mm still camera lenses for narrow
> depth of field. For surface work, of course.
>
> Good luck, it's a great camera.
>
> Jim McGauhey
> Washington State
>
>
>

WORLD FILMS & TRAVEL
WWW.WORLDFILMSANDTRAVEL.COM <http://www.WORLDFILMSANDTRAVEL.COM

Steve Douglas
5260 Mary Fellows Ave
La Mesa, Ca. 91942
619-464-4505
steve-sharksdelight@...





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In uwvideo@yahoogroups.com, William Kimlinger <will@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> I'm looking for a used Sony HVR-A1U to put in my amphibico housing. If
> anyone knows of one for sale I'd appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Will Kimlinger
> www.tortugavideo.com
>


I've purchased 2 off ebay with good luck, but you might have to wait a month for
a really good deal. There's a lot of demand for this camera.  My first one broke
and I tried to fix it myself.  Bad idea! (These cameras have a problem with
false moisture alarm, pro fix is about $400.) Right now there's one mid-bid at
about $875, but with 28 bids there's a lot of interest and it will surely go
much higher.  Up to $1,500 is an OK deal. Careful of A1J sold as A1U.  I look
very closely at sellers feedback.  It hard for a 200,000 transaction seller to
get 100% positive, go I'll go with 98.5% or more, wanting higher % as # of
transactions gets lower.  To eliminate the many hundreds of hits that aren't
cameras, my search criteria is

sony a1u -battery -lens -kit -case -for

I never buy the kits as they come with lots of overpriced junk.  I also buy my
tapes about 50 at a time, using Sony Premium, blue wrapper, for less than $3.  I
find the HD tapes aren't necessary; one review showed HD tapes had more
drop-outs!  I've been shooting an A1U in Ocean Images for almost 4 years now. 
Set the one button assignable to white balance, if you have a control for that
button.  This is a very popular camera for run 'n gun reality shows, so demand
is high.

I also bought a HC1 as a backup.  Same camera without XLR sound, some software
differences, and one button white balance.  Since the Ocean Images housing has
optional controls to use the touch screen menus, I can set HC1 white balance via
menu.  Or review footage during safety or deco stops.

Consider HC1 also as it has same imager at about $500+ less cost.  Unless you
want XLR for surface sound.  I think they both offere zebra stripes, etc,
although I'm not certain on HC1 as I don't use this feature.  I'm usually
shooting with lights.  Can always get a Beachtek for XLR sound at less than the
difference.  I'm now building a 35mm lens adapter for using 35mm still camera
lenses for narrow depth of field.  For surface work, of course.

Good luck, it's a great camera.

Jim McGauhey
Washington State

Hello all.

I'm looking for a used Sony HVR-A1U to put in my amphibico housing. If
anyone knows of one for sale I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

Will Kimlinger
www.tortugavideo.com

To All Underwater Filmmakers:

This is a call for entries for the 10th Annual San Diego UnderSea
Film Exhibition, scheduled for Friday and Saturday evenings,
September 11th & 12th, 2009 at beautiful Qualcomm Hall located at
5775 Morehouse Dr, San Diego, Ca. 92121.

Here is your chance to see your work projected in High or Standard
Definition formats in a state of the art venue on a giant screen.

   And there is no entry fee!

Each evening will feature a different program consisting of 14 to 16
short underwater films from locations all over the world.

Entry Guidelines:
   *  Submission deadline is July 15, 2009.
   *  We are accepting Standard Definition NTSC or High Definition
1080i60 HDV films only on mini-DV tapes.  We cannot accept PAL or
1080i/50 submissions. Please convert your video(s) to either of the
above formats prior to submission.
   *  No film should be longer than five minutes, and at least 50% of
the footage must be underwater.
   *  Please ensure that you have all rights, to any media that is
used in your film(s) (music, visual footage, personal, copyright, or
any other legal right.)
   *  Leave at least a 10-15 second black leader at the beginning of
your submissions.  More than one film may be entered on a tape but
include a 15 second  black leader before each film.
   *  Filmmakers are limited to 2 submissions each.
   * To have your tapes returned after the Film Exhibition, please
include a proper sized, self-addressed, stamped envelope with
adequate postage.
   *  Please include your name, address, phone number, e-mail address,
film’s name and length, and a brief bio with your submission(s).
   *  For further information on UFEX see our website, www.sdufex.com
   *  Send your submissions to:
San Diego UnderSea Film Exhibition
P.O. Box 927330
San Diego, CA. 92192

Filmmakers whose films are selected are encouraged to come to the
show and introduce their film(s) in person on the night of the
exhibition.

The San Diego UnderSea Film Exhibition reserves the right to use the
films for the promotion of this event.  All rights will remain with
the owners of the films.

If you have any questions please contact:
Eric Hanauer at ehanauer@...
or Chuck Nicklin at uwchuck@...

Hope to see you in San Diego in September!

- Mary Lynn Price

At 05:37 PM 5/21/2009, richard maliszewski wrote:
>Sounds like the coral garden left of the point at Karamolun?

Velvia Reef, actually. We dove there three times, and the cuttlefish
decided to mate the one time I was set up for macro. Great place. The
cruise directors claim that everyone sees something new at Velvia
Reef. That was certainly true for me.

Mike Boom

Quoting Mike Boom <boom@...>:


> My favorite and most frustrating part of the trip was on a dive in
> the Solomons where we encountered seven broad-finned cuttlefish
> hovering like UFOs over the reef. Three of them were involved in a
> competitive mating dance culminating in a quick locking of tentacles
> between the victorious male and the acquiescing female. This all
> happened just feet from my face, but did I get great footage of it?
> No -- I was set up for macro and could only stare dumbfounded.

Sounds like the coral garden left of the point at Karamolun?

--Richard

At 07:38 PM 5/20/2009, Josh Jensen wrote:
>I am using the HVX200.

Nice camcorder! A big step up from the little ones I'm used to using.

Maybe the Panasonic white balance is a lot smarter than Sony's. It
could also be that I just don't know what I'm doing when I try to
white balance on the sun.

Mike Boom

At 07:37 PM 5/20/2009, John Williams wrote:
>Mike,
>I hope you had a great time on your journeys -- I wish I were a member
>of your local club so I could sit in on a post-trip debriefing.

Thanks, John. We did have a great time, although the quick version of
the debriefing would have to mention lots of time schlepping through
airports and spending nights in hotels between dive destinations, all
while fighting off a miserable cold that ran us through reams of
tissue paper. I'm sure the people on planes with us were convinced we
had swine flu.

We also had fun manhandling large pieces of baggage from place to
place, and that's with relatively simple photo and video gear. I
can't even imagine doing the same thing with a really large housing
and camcorder. That's why I'm curious about the state of the little
consumer HD camcorders, and hope they start improving to become a
viable option for those who don't want to take the pro plunge.

One of the most unique parts of the trip was our 9-day trip on the
Spirit of Solomons in the Solomon Islands. It's a 20-passenger boat
with 13 crew, and Lynn and I were the only passengers. We got to pick
the dive sites we liked, we spread our gear out over all the camera
tables, and there was never any competition for photo subjects while
we were diving. Kudos to Bilikiki Cruises for keeping boats operating
even with minimal passenger loads.

If people have some available funds to go on dive trips, now's the
time to do it: there aren't many divers out there, so service on
boats and at resorts is great with few people using the resources.

My favorite and most frustrating part of the trip was on a dive in
the Solomons where we encountered seven broad-finned cuttlefish
hovering like UFOs over the reef. Three of them were involved in a
competitive mating dance culminating in a quick locking of tentacles
between the victorious male and the acquiescing female. This all
happened just feet from my face, but did I get great footage of it?
No -- I was set up for macro and could only stare dumbfounded.

Ah, well. It was still a magical moment and a wonderful trip. I'm
sure I'll think back on it all fondly as soon as my ears finally
clear after three weeks of being blocked up (but equalizable) from
this cold. I think one's getting ready to crack even now.

Mike Boom

I am using the HVX200.
On 21/05/2009, at 12:17 PM, Mike Boom wrote:

>
>
> I'm just back to California from PNG, the Solomons, and Fiji and am
> trying to shake off the remnants of a very nasty three-week cold
> while plowing through email. I'm sorry I'm a late voice to this
> thread since white balance is near and dear to my heart. Some tardy
> comments -- please excuse them all bunched together:
>
> > Posted by: "Roger Roth" rroth2@... rogerrothcincy
> > Date: Wed May 13, 2009 8:46 am ((PDT))
> >
> >It seems as though many of you are having trouble locking in the
> white
> >balance with certian cameras at depths below 35' or so. Does the
> auto white
> >balance on those cameras work better at deeper depths or does it
> have the
> >same problem? i.e. Has anyone compared the auto with manual at the
> same
> >depths/same shots? It would be interesting to see if the auto
> worked better
> >at those depths by looking at the same shots, shot with auto, then
> shot with
> >manual...
>
> When manual white balance was out on my A1U housing for a couple of
> days in the Solomons I got to revisit auto white balance again and
> found it completely wanting at anything below 15 ft. or so. It worked
> okay above 15 ft. with good viz and light and a blue-water filter,
> but for everything else the color was blue and completely washed out.
>
> The A1U has no trouble manually white balancing to depths well below
> 60 ft. when light is good, so my conclusion is that its auto white
> balance just can't handle the big blue floodlight of underwater
> lighting. Its fuzzy logic doesn't include big blue in its parameters.
> If there were more underwater videographers, maybe one of the
> camcorder manufacturers would include an "underwater" setting with
> accompanying logic for auto underwater white balance.
>
> > Posted by: "Josh Jensen" joshojensen@... joshojensen
> > Date: Wed May 13, 2009 2:11 pm ((PDT))
> >
> >All cameras will eventually hit their light limit when it comes to
> >setting manual white balance - to get the most light into the camera
> >to help it lock on, try shooting the sun and balancing on that. Even
> >on an overcast day, shooting toward the brightest part of the sky
> from
> >underwater will give the camera a pretty close approximation of white
> >with the maximum light hitting the sensors. I prefer to shoot the
> >sand or reef when white balancing, but if it is too dark/deep to lock
> >in, shooting the sun will work for a few more meters of depth.
>
> Interesting -- I've had completely the opposite experience with the
> sun. It works for me in very shallow water, where it helps keep the
> manual white balance from being too red, but rarely works under about
> 20 ft. Perhaps your camcorder is a bit more savvy in white balance.
> What are you shooting these days, Josh?
>
> >I prefer the results from a white board or sand
>
> I do as well, but there's a distinct difference between the two. The
> white board should provide exact manual white balance which I always
> find a bit too red, at least in the Sony A1U. Perhaps that's because
> the human brain expects at least a little blue tint to underwater
> scenes. Balancing on sand can provide a slightly bluer manual white
> balance because sand is often a little warmer (slightly redder) than
> a white card. Balancing on sand is always subject to varying shades
> of sand, but it can usually get you at least close enough that you
> can fix it in post if necessary.
>
> If anyone else has problems with WB being too red in a Sony
> camcorder, many of them have a white balance offset setting buried
> deep in the menus that you can tweak to make the ideal white balance
> bluer or redder.
>
> >1a. Re: White balance differences
> > Posted by: "Sharon Wada" sharon@... yadayadawada
> > Date: Fri May 15, 2009 4:44 am ((PDT))
> >Since many other more savvy videographers have success with auto WB,
> >this is probably due to my inexperience shooting and the limits of
> >the Sony HCn line.
>
> I'm not sure I've seen any great unlit wide-angle UW video shot with
> auto WB, at least below about 20 ft., so I'm not convinced savvy
> videographers ever get great results with it. If someone has some
> good on-line examples, though, with info about the depth I could be
> convinced...
>
> >1a. Re: White balance differences
> > Posted by: "mlprice@..." mlprice@... marylynnprice
> > Date: Fri May 15, 2009 6:45 am ((PDT))
> >I think I'll stick with my trusty little A1U which manually white
> >balances in even some of the toughest lighting situations. And I
> >will continue to wait for the little video cam I *really* want to
> >use to be developed....
>
> Here's hoping Sony returns decent manual white balance to the
> consumer line. For what it's worth, one of the current Nai'a cruise
> directors is shooting a Sony EX1 in a gigantic Gates housing and he
> gets some great white balance results at depths. I liked them better
> than my A1U manual WB, and it's much better in low light. Maybe some
> of that will creep back into smaller camcorders, especially if Sony
> replaces the A1U at some point with another "professional" version of
> a small camcorder.
>
> >1b. Re: White balance differences
> > Posted by: "William Kimlinger" will@...
> > Date: Fri May 15, 2009 10:46 am ((PDT))
> >
> >Has anyone tried white balancing on a bluish background before
> >diving and locking that in? It wouldn't balance perfectly at depth
> but
> >might bring enough red in to allow adjustment in post.
>
> While I was in the Solomons, desperate to get balanced wide-angle
> footage, I did exactly that, trying all different shades of blue
> including the underwater photo cover of a dive magazine. They all
> failed miserably and I was locked into a single bad balance for the
> whole dive. At least auto WB works for well-lit macro and shallow
> wide-angle.
>
> At this point, I know more about cheesy white balance solutions than
> I care to! It was a great relief when I found I could simply clip a
> burnt-out capacitor out of my custom-built circuit board to make
> white balance work again. I never want to go without manual WB again.
> After using the HC7 at depth, I consider it without white balance
> below 30 ft.
>
> Here's to better white balance solutions in future technology, and a
> day when we get RAW video workflow in consumer camcorders so we can
> all white balance after the fact as long as we get a little bit of
> true white captured somewhere in the frame.
>
> Mike Boom
>
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Mike,
I hope you had a great time on your journeys -- I wish I were a member
of your local club so I could sit in on a post-trip debriefing.

One thing you didn't mention about white balancing at depth: to take a
cue from above water cinematographers, simply put a piece of
appropriately colored gel over the sun to block out the blue, use
lenses with bigger apertures, and sensors with better sensitivity --
no problem!!!!

John Williams



On May 20, 2009, at 19:17:55, Mike Boom wrote:

>
>
> I'm just back to California from PNG, the Solomons, and Fiji and am
> trying to shake off the remnants of a very nasty three-week cold
> while plowing through email. I'm sorry I'm a late voice to this
> thread since white balance is near and dear to my heart. Some tardy
> comments -- please excuse them all bunched together:
>
> > Posted by: "Roger Roth" rroth2@... rogerrothcincy
> > Date: Wed May 13, 2009 8:46 am ((PDT))
> >
> >It seems as though many of you are having trouble locking in the
> white
> >balance with certian cameras at depths below 35' or so. Does the
> auto white
> >balance on those cameras work better at deeper depths or does it
> have the
> >same problem? i.e. Has anyone compared the auto with manual at the
> same
> >depths/same shots? It would be interesting to see if the auto
> worked better
> >at those depths by looking at the same shots, shot with auto, then
> shot with
> >manual...
>
> When manual white balance was out on my A1U housing for a couple of
> days in the Solomons I got to revisit auto white balance again and
> found it completely wanting at anything below 15 ft. or so. It worked
> okay above 15 ft. with good viz and light and a blue-water filter,
> but for everything else the color was blue and completely washed out.
>
> The A1U has no trouble manually white balancing to depths well below
> 60 ft. when light is good, so my conclusion is that its auto white
> balance just can't handle the big blue floodlight of underwater
> lighting. Its fuzzy logic doesn't include big blue in its parameters.
> If there were more underwater videographers, maybe one of the
> camcorder manufacturers would include an "underwater" setting with
> accompanying logic for auto underwater white balance.
>
> > Posted by: "Josh Jensen" joshojensen@... joshojensen
> > Date: Wed May 13, 2009 2:11 pm ((PDT))
> >
> >All cameras will eventually hit their light limit when it comes to
> >setting manual white balance - to get the most light into the camera
> >to help it lock on, try shooting the sun and balancing on that. Even
> >on an overcast day, shooting toward the brightest part of the sky
> from
> >underwater will give the camera a pretty close approximation of white
> >with the maximum light hitting the sensors. I prefer to shoot the
> >sand or reef when white balancing, but if it is too dark/deep to lock
> >in, shooting the sun will work for a few more meters of depth.
>
> Interesting -- I've had completely the opposite experience with the
> sun. It works for me in very shallow water, where it helps keep the
> manual white balance from being too red, but rarely works under about
> 20 ft. Perhaps your camcorder is a bit more savvy in white balance.
> What are you shooting these days, Josh?
>
> >I prefer the results from a white board or sand
>
> I do as well, but there's a distinct difference between the two. The
> white board should provide exact manual white balance which I always
> find a bit too red, at least in the Sony A1U. Perhaps that's because
> the human brain expects at least a little blue tint to underwater
> scenes. Balancing on sand can provide a slightly bluer manual white
> balance because sand is often a little warmer (slightly redder) than
> a white card. Balancing on sand is always subject to varying shades
> of sand, but it can usually get you at least close enough that you
> can fix it in post if necessary.
>
> If anyone else has problems with WB being too red in a Sony
> camcorder, many of them have a white balance offset setting buried
> deep in the menus that you can tweak to make the ideal white balance
> bluer or redder.
>
> >1a. Re: White balance differences
> > Posted by: "Sharon Wada" sharon@... yadayadawada
> > Date: Fri May 15, 2009 4:44 am ((PDT))
> >Since many other more savvy videographers have success with auto WB,
> >this is probably due to my inexperience shooting and the limits of
> >the Sony HCn line.
>
> I'm not sure I've seen any great unlit wide-angle UW video shot with
> auto WB, at least below about 20 ft., so I'm not convinced savvy
> videographers ever get great results with it. If someone has some
> good on-line examples, though, with info about the depth I could be
> convinced...
>
> >1a. Re: White balance differences
> > Posted by: "mlprice@..." mlprice@... marylynnprice
> > Date: Fri May 15, 2009 6:45 am ((PDT))
> >I think I'll stick with my trusty little A1U which manually white
> >balances in even some of the toughest lighting situations. And I
> >will continue to wait for the little video cam I *really* want to
> >use to be developed....
>
> Here's hoping Sony returns decent manual white balance to the
> consumer line. For what it's worth, one of the current Nai'a cruise
> directors is shooting a Sony EX1 in a gigantic Gates housing and he
> gets some great white balance results at depths. I liked them better
> than my A1U manual WB, and it's much better in low light. Maybe some
> of that will creep back into smaller camcorders, especially if Sony
> replaces the A1U at some point with another "professional" version of
> a small camcorder.
>
> >1b. Re: White balance differences
> > Posted by: "William Kimlinger" will@...
> > Date: Fri May 15, 2009 10:46 am ((PDT))
> >
> >Has anyone tried white balancing on a bluish background before
> >diving and locking that in? It wouldn't balance perfectly at depth
> but
> >might bring enough red in to allow adjustment in post.
>
> While I was in the Solomons, desperate to get balanced wide-angle
> footage, I did exactly that, trying all different shades of blue
> including the underwater photo cover of a dive magazine. They all
> failed miserably and I was locked into a single bad balance for the
> whole dive. At least auto WB works for well-lit macro and shallow
> wide-angle.
>
> At this point, I know more about cheesy white balance solutions than
> I care to! It was a great relief when I found I could simply clip a
> burnt-out capacitor out of my custom-built circuit board to make
> white balance work again. I never want to go without manual WB again.
> After using the HC7 at depth, I consider it without white balance
> below 30 ft.
>
> Here's to better white balance solutions in future technology, and a
> day when we get RAW video workflow in consumer camcorders so we can
> all white balance after the fact as long as we get a little bit of
> true white captured somewhere in the frame.
>
> Mike Boom
>
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm just back to California from PNG, the Solomons, and Fiji and am
trying to shake off the remnants of a very nasty three-week cold
while plowing through email. I'm sorry I'm a late voice to this
thread since white balance is near and dear to my heart. Some tardy
comments -- please excuse them all bunched together:

>     Posted by: "Roger Roth" rroth2@... rogerrothcincy
>     Date: Wed May 13, 2009 8:46 am ((PDT))
>
>It seems as though many of you are having trouble locking in the white
>balance with certian cameras at depths below 35' or so.  Does the auto white
>balance on those cameras work better at deeper depths or does it have the
>same problem?  i.e. Has anyone compared the auto with manual at the same
>depths/same shots?  It would be interesting to see if the auto worked better
>at those depths by looking at the same shots, shot with auto, then shot with
>manual...

When manual white balance was out on my A1U housing for a couple of
days in the Solomons I got to revisit auto white balance again and
found it completely wanting at anything below 15 ft. or so. It worked
okay above 15 ft. with good viz and light and a blue-water filter,
but for everything else the color was blue and completely washed out.

The A1U has no trouble manually white balancing to depths well below
60 ft. when light is good, so my conclusion is that its auto white
balance just can't handle the big blue floodlight of underwater
lighting. Its fuzzy logic doesn't include big blue in its parameters.
If there were more underwater videographers, maybe one of the
camcorder manufacturers would include an "underwater" setting with
accompanying logic for auto underwater white balance.

>     Posted by: "Josh Jensen" joshojensen@... joshojensen
>     Date: Wed May 13, 2009 2:11 pm ((PDT))
>
>All cameras will eventually hit their light limit when it comes to
>setting manual white balance - to get the most light into the camera
>to help it lock on, try shooting the sun and balancing on that.  Even
>on an overcast day, shooting toward the brightest part of the sky from
>underwater will give the camera a pretty close approximation of white
>with the maximum light hitting the sensors.  I prefer to shoot the
>sand or reef when white balancing, but if it is too dark/deep to lock
>in, shooting the sun will work for a few more meters of depth.

Interesting -- I've had completely the opposite experience with the
sun. It works for me in very shallow water, where it helps keep the
manual white balance from being too red, but rarely works under about
20 ft. Perhaps your camcorder is a bit more savvy in white balance.
What are you shooting these days, Josh?

>I prefer the results from a white board or sand

I do as well, but there's a distinct difference between the two. The
white board should provide exact manual white balance which I always
find a bit too red, at least in the Sony A1U. Perhaps that's because
the human brain expects at least a little blue tint to underwater
scenes. Balancing on sand can provide a slightly bluer manual white
balance because sand is often a little warmer (slightly redder) than
a white card. Balancing on sand is always subject to varying shades
of sand, but it can usually get you at least close enough that you
can fix it in post if necessary.

If anyone else has problems with WB being too red in a Sony
camcorder, many of them have a white balance offset setting buried
deep in the menus that you can tweak to make the ideal white balance
bluer or redder.

>1a. Re: White balance differences
>     Posted by: "Sharon Wada" sharon@... yadayadawada
>     Date: Fri May 15, 2009 4:44 am ((PDT))
>Since many other more savvy videographers have success with auto WB,
>this is probably due to my inexperience shooting and the limits of
>the Sony HCn line.

I'm not sure I've seen any great unlit wide-angle UW video shot with
auto WB, at least below about 20 ft., so I'm not convinced savvy
videographers ever get great results with it. If someone has some
good on-line examples, though, with info about the depth I could be
convinced...

>1a. Re: White balance differences
>     Posted by: "mlprice@..." mlprice@... marylynnprice
>     Date: Fri May 15, 2009 6:45 am ((PDT))
>I think I'll stick with my trusty little A1U which manually white
>balances in even some of the toughest lighting situations.  And I
>will continue to wait for the little video cam I *really* want to
>use to be developed....

Here's hoping Sony returns decent manual white balance to the
consumer line. For what it's worth, one of the current Nai'a cruise
directors is shooting a Sony EX1 in a gigantic Gates housing and he
gets some great white balance results at depths. I liked them better
than my A1U manual WB, and it's much better in low light. Maybe some
of that will creep back into smaller camcorders, especially if Sony
replaces the A1U at some point with another "professional" version of
a small camcorder.

>1b. Re: White balance differences
>     Posted by: "William Kimlinger" will@...
>     Date: Fri May 15, 2009 10:46 am ((PDT))
>
>Has anyone tried white balancing on a bluish background before
>diving and locking that in? It wouldn't balance perfectly at depth but
>might bring enough red in to allow adjustment in post.

While I was in the Solomons, desperate to get balanced wide-angle
footage, I did exactly that, trying all different shades of blue
including the underwater photo cover of a dive magazine. They all
failed miserably and I was locked into a single bad balance for the
whole dive. At least auto WB works for well-lit macro and shallow wide-angle.

At this point, I know more about cheesy white balance solutions than
I care to! It was a great relief when I found I could simply clip a
burnt-out capacitor out of my custom-built circuit board to make
white balance work again. I never want to go without manual WB again.
After using the HC7 at depth, I consider it without white balance below 30 ft.

Here's to better white balance solutions in future technology, and a
day when we get RAW video workflow in consumer camcorders so we can
all white balance after the fact as long as we get a little bit of
true white captured somewhere in the frame.

Mike Boom

Steve,

Come on down- I'll bring some Tamiflu for you!

Will



Steve Douglas wrote:
>
>
> Will,
> The Canon S10 has 900 lines of resolution and in a comparison
> between it and the Sony 520, the 520 came out 2nd by a wide margin.
> It has a 58 mm lens, the same size as the Canon GL2 and an 8.59
> megapixel cmos sensor. The best part is that it captures at 24Mbps,
> has a 32GB of Flash memory and the SDHC memory card is also 32GB.
> Light and Motion is currently in the process of developing a housing
> for it, their first out of the Sony line, and will have a 2 button
> manual white balance along with the best back side monitor I have yet
> to see on any housing so getting critical focus is finally possible.
> So how come you're not taking me to Mexico with you?
> Steve
> On May 15, 2009, at 8:53 AM, William Kimlinger wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > My Amphibico housing does not allow manual white balance for my HC7.
> > It
> > seems that the HC7 will store a manual white balance even with the
> > power
> > off. Has anyone tried white balancing on a bluish background before
> > diving and locking that in? It wouldn't balance perfectly at depth but
> > might bring enough red in to allow adjustment in post. I will be in
> > Mexico in a few weeks and am going to give it a try before
> > abandoning my
> > current housing...
> >
> > Also, I was intrigued by your comments about the camera you really
> > want.
> > My dream camera would have 3 chips, good low-light capabilities, white
> > balance through the LANC, capture on SD cards, small form factor and
> > have (for land use) phantom mic power and neutral density filters. The
> > Canon S10 comes close... What would you add to the list?
> >
> > Will Kimlinger
> >
> > mlprice@... <mailto:mlprice%40san.rr.com> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Great discussion on this topic--and thank you, Josh, for the excellent
> > suggestion! (And Congratulations, as well!)
> >
> > I won't give up on the little HC9 for deeper dives--will try Josh's
> > suggestion and see if that helps. Definitely impressed that, Sharon,
> > you
> > have been able to easily manually reset white balance on your little
> > cam
> > at deeper depths.
> >
> > For most upcoming dives where I need to ensure good MWB in various
> > lighting situations, I think I'll stick with my trusty little A1U
> > which
> > manually white balances in even some of the toughest lighting
> > situations. And I will continue to wait for the little video cam I
> > *really* want to use to be developed...
> >
> > Happy imaging to all!
> >
> > Mary Lynn
> > http://DiveFilm.com <http://DiveFilm.com> <http://DiveFilm.com
> <http://DiveFilm.com>>
> >
> > ---- Josh Jensen <joshojensen@... <mailto:joshojensen%40yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:joshojensen%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > > Hi Mary Lynn
> > >
> > > All cameras will eventually hit their light limit when it comes to
> > > setting manual white balance - to get the most light into the camera
> > > to help it lock on, try shooting the sun and balancing on that. Even
> > > on an overcast day, shooting toward the brightest part of the sky
> > from
> > > underwater will give the camera a pretty close approximation of
> > white
> > > with the maximum light hitting the sensors. I prefer to shoot the
> > > sand or reef when white balancing, but if it is too dark/deep to
> > lock
> > > in, shooting the sun will work for a few more meters of depth.
> > >
> > > Give it a try.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Josh
> > >
> > >
> > > On 14/05/2009, at 3:15 AM, Mary Lynn Price wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > With my FX7 and Gates housing, I can toggle between MWB and auto
> > > > > pretty quickly. If I'm not satisfied with my MWB, I sometimes
> > > > > toggle to auto out of curiosity. Auto always looks worse
> > > >
> > > > You fortunate people with those higher end, larger cameras! But
> > your
> > > > rig weighs a bit more for transport...
> > > >
> > > > ML
> >
> >
> >
>
> WORLD FILMS & TRAVEL
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> <http://www.WORLDFILMSANDTRAVEL.COM>
>
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> 5260 Mary Fellows Ave
> La Mesa, Ca. 91942
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>
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Will,
      The Canon S10 has 900 lines of resolution and in a comparison
between it and the Sony 520, the 520 came out 2nd by a wide margin.
It has a 58 mm lens, the same size as the Canon GL2  and an 8.59
megapixel cmos sensor.  The best part is that it captures at 24Mbps,
has a 32GB of Flash memory and the SDHC memory card is also 32GB.
Light and Motion is currently in the process of developing a housing
for it, their first out of the Sony line, and will have a 2 button
manual white balance along with the best back side monitor I have yet
to see on any housing so getting critical focus is finally possible.
      So how come you're not taking me to Mexico with you?
Steve
On May 15, 2009, at 8:53 AM, William Kimlinger wrote:

>
>
> Hello,
>
> My Amphibico housing does not allow manual white balance for my HC7.
> It
> seems that the HC7 will store a manual white balance even with the
> power
> off. Has anyone tried white balancing on a bluish background before
> diving and locking that in? It wouldn't balance perfectly at depth but
> might bring enough red in to allow adjustment in post. I will be in
> Mexico in a few weeks and am going to give it a try before
> abandoning my
> current housing...
>
> Also, I was intrigued by your comments about the camera you really
> want.
> My dream camera would have 3 chips, good low-light capabilities, white
> balance through the LANC, capture on SD cards, small form factor and
> have (for land use) phantom mic power and neutral density filters. The
> Canon S10 comes close... What would you add to the list?
>
> Will Kimlinger
>
> mlprice@... wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Great discussion on this topic--and thank you, Josh, for the excellent
> suggestion! (And Congratulations, as well!)
>
> I won't give up on the little HC9 for deeper dives--will try Josh's
> suggestion and see if that helps. Definitely impressed that, Sharon,
> you
> have been able to easily manually reset white balance on your little
> cam
> at deeper depths.
>
> For most upcoming dives where I need to ensure good MWB in various
> lighting situations, I think I'll stick with my trusty little A1U
> which
> manually white balances in even some of the toughest lighting
> situations. And I will continue to wait for the little video cam I
> *really* want to use to be developed...
>
> Happy imaging to all!
>
> Mary Lynn
> http://DiveFilm.com <http://DiveFilm.com>
>
> ---- Josh Jensen <joshojensen@...
> <mailto:joshojensen%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > Hi Mary Lynn
> >
> > All cameras will eventually hit their light limit when it comes to
> > setting manual white balance - to get the most light into the camera
> > to help it lock on, try shooting the sun and balancing on that. Even
> > on an overcast day, shooting toward the brightest part of the sky
> from
> > underwater will give the camera a pretty close approximation of
> white
> > with the maximum light hitting the sensors. I prefer to shoot the
> > sand or reef when white balancing, but if it is too dark/deep to
> lock
> > in, shooting the sun will work for a few more meters of depth.
> >
> > Give it a try.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Josh
> >
> >
> > On 14/05/2009, at 3:15 AM, Mary Lynn Price wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > With my FX7 and Gates housing, I can toggle between MWB and auto
> > > > pretty quickly. If I'm not satisfied with my MWB, I sometimes
> > > > toggle to auto out of curiosity. Auto always looks worse
> > >
> > > You fortunate people with those higher end, larger cameras! But
> your
> > > rig weighs a bit more for transport...
> > >
> > > ML
>
>
>

WORLD FILMS & TRAVEL
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Steve Douglas
5260 Mary Fellows Ave
La Mesa, Ca. 91942
619-464-4505
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Jose,

       This is not something you should attempt yourself unless
thoroughly trained to do so.  Without question, send it in for repair.
   Steve
On May 15, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Jose Dias wrote:

>
>
> My old Sony DCR-TRV950 video camera (wonderful camera) apparently
> has a
> dead firewire port.
> I need a service manual or something online and how tricky it is to
> get
> inside that panel.
> Any help?
>
> tks,
> Jose Dias
>
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Steve Douglas
5260 Mary Fellows Ave
La Mesa, Ca. 91942
619-464-4505
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Hello,

My Amphibico housing does not allow manual white balance for my HC7. It
seems that the HC7 will store a manual white balance even with the power
off. Has anyone tried white balancing on a bluish background before
diving and locking that in? It wouldn't balance perfectly at depth but
might bring enough red in to allow adjustment in post. I will be in
Mexico in a few weeks and am going to give it a try before abandoning my
current housing...

Also, I was intrigued by your comments about the camera you really want.
My dream camera would have 3 chips, good low-light capabilities, white
balance through the LANC, capture on SD cards, small form factor and
have (for land use) phantom mic power and neutral density filters. The
Canon S10 comes close...  What would you add to the list?

Will Kimlinger



mlprice@... wrote:
Hello All,

Great discussion on this topic--and thank you, Josh, for the excellent
suggestion! (And Congratulations, as well!)

I won't give up on the little HC9 for deeper dives--will try Josh's
suggestion and see if that helps. Definitely impressed that, Sharon, you
have been able to easily manually reset white balance on your little cam
at deeper depths.

For most upcoming dives where I need to ensure good MWB in various
lighting situations, I think I'll stick with my trusty little A1U which
manually white balances in even some of the toughest lighting
situations. And I will continue to wait for the little video cam I
*really* want to use to be developed...

Happy imaging to all!

Mary Lynn
http://DiveFilm.com <http://DiveFilm.com>


---- Josh Jensen <joshojensen@...
<mailto:joshojensen%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
  > Hi Mary Lynn
  >
  > All cameras will eventually hit their light limit when it comes to
  > setting manual white balance - to get the most light into the camera
  > to help it lock on, try shooting the sun and balancing on that. Even
  > on an overcast day, shooting toward the brightest part of the sky from
  > underwater will give the camera a pretty close approximation of white
  > with the maximum light hitting the sensors. I prefer to shoot the
  > sand or reef when white balancing, but if it is too dark/deep to lock
  > in, shooting the sun will work for a few more meters of depth.
  >
  > Give it a try.
  >
  > Cheers
  > Josh
  >
  >
  > On 14/05/2009, at 3:15 AM, Mary Lynn Price wrote:
  >
  > >
  > >
  > > > With my FX7 and Gates housing, I can toggle between MWB and auto
  > > > pretty quickly. If I'm not satisfied with my MWB, I sometimes
  > > > toggle to auto out of curiosity. Auto always looks worse
  > >
  > > You fortunate people with those higher end, larger cameras! But your
  > > rig weighs a bit more for transport...
  > >
  > > ML