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Reply Message #1081 of 1725 |
Re: [Urdu Computing] Re: Limitations [Nafees Web Naskh License]

Dear All, including OSS overloads :-),

Nafees Web Naskh has been released Open Source GPL (not LGPL or BSD).
It can certainly be included in Linux distros and OO. There should
not be a problem.


regards,
Sarmad

P.S. you can treat this email official on behalf of CRULP.



On 5/13/06, jessbody@... <jessbody2000@...> wrote:
> With regard to NWN font, can someone make clear if the NWN can be
> included in Linux distros or with OO. Although, the NWN license seems
> to allow this, but the OSS overlords loathe to read custom licenses,
> and thus prefer LGPL or BSD. Can the NWN be released under one of
> these standard licenses, perhaps under a different name?
>
>
>
> --- In urdu_computing@yahoogroups.com, Shariq Mustaquim
> <shariqmus@...> wrote:
> >
> > Another point that I want to point out is the fact
> > Nafees Web Naskh font gets substituted in Opera browser.
> > I dont know the reason behind this but Opera simply
> > refuses to show NWN and substitues with Arial/Sans etc.
> > Opera is a popular browser and it is recommended that this
> > issue be resolved.
> >
> > To reproduce bahaviour:
> >
> > Just visit http://jang.net/urdu using Opera.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Shariq Mustaquim
> > Founding Editor
> > http://www.boriat.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Aijaz Akhtar <aijazakhtar@...>
> > To: urdu_computing@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, 12 May, 2006 9:59:59 AM
> > Subject: [Urdu Computing] Re: Limitations of urdu webpage and HTML
> >
> > Another matter too is better to discuss here. The query was in fact
> > for the feature of MS Word that 'autoformats' a numbered list. Yes,
> > most of the features in most applications are
> > "western-script-centric'. Even the keyboard one uses, US, UK or
> > Dvorak, they are all tuned to Western latin script. Thus the Caps lock
> > feature does not work while typing in Urdu (when you select Urdu as
> > Input method in the Operating System, or type on a specific Urdu
> > writer software.). Nor you can make use of Change Case feature. If in
> > your phonetic keyboard "j" is mapped with "Jeem" and Capital "J" with
> > "Zuad", a short cut key of Word (Shift F3 for toggling case) would not
> > work if you want to change Jeem to Zuad or vice versa, through the
> > change Case option. Unless an advanced Urdu word processor introduces
> > such features, we have to be content with MS Word / Frontpage or even
> > Ooo. Hence preference of some web developers for the plain
> > notepad/text editor as the web page creator.
> > Even if you want to use Word as a web designer s/w, there is another
> > feature of MS Word that is adverse to Urdu. In case of an absence of a
> > character in the selected font, it shows the character in its page,
> > befooling you that it has used that character. But what it does is
> > that it actually substitutes Times New Roman or Arial font for that.
> > Thus, e.g., you are using Urdu Naskh Asia Type, and add takhallus mark
> > in a Ghazal of a poet, Word will show the mark all right, as it makes
> > do with Arial/Times not finding takhallus in Urdu Naskh Asiatype font.
> > But when the web page is on line and a user accesses this page on a
> > system with Urdu Naskh Asiatype installed, BUT NOT THE UPDATED
> > ARIAL/TIMES NEW ROMAN fonts, (s)he finds only rectangles in place of
> > Takhallus.
> > I have been researching on Urdu fonts lately and will post more on
> > that later.
> > Aijaz
> >
> > --- In urdu_computing@yahoogroups.com, Me <nua_pk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear All
> > >
> > > Can any body kindly suggests some points that what are the
> > > limitations of an urdu web page while we use an HTML for urdu web
> > > page making. Like for example
> > >
> > > 1. we cant use the List item in urdu webpage as it doest have alif
> > > bay jeem type of list wehave to use 123 or abc kind of list in
> > > ordered list.
> > >
> > > 2. Editing a webpage is also a very difficult task .
> > >
> > > I cant think more righ now but i would like if every one can add
> > > limitations they have faced would make my list much longer .
> > >
> > > Waiting for help
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
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Sarmad Hussain
Professor and Head
Center for Research in Urdu Language Processing
National University of Compter and Emerging Sciences
B Block Faisal Town
Lahore, Pakistan

Ph: +9242 111 128128
Fax: +9242 5165232
URL: www.crulp.org






Sun May 14, 2006 11:16 am

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Dear All Can any body kindly suggests some points that what are the limitations of an urdu web page while we use an HTML for urdu web page making. Like for...
Me
nua_pk Offline Send Email
May 8, 2006
4:59 pm

Dear All, one more limitation... Urdu Ghazal needs "forced justification"... i.e., all the verses should have of same width in line. But in HTML language,...
baazauq Offline Send Email May 9, 2006
5:30 am

those of us who have taken the time to learn a bit of HTML, and are not slaves to fancy web creation packages do not share this experience....
jessbody@...
jessbody2000 Offline Send Email
May 9, 2006
5:34 am

jessbody, I humbly request u to use simple words or say directly... using hi-fi symbols like "slaves of fancy web creation" makes someone confused... hope u...
baazauq Offline Send Email May 9, 2006
2:56 pm

Develeopment of urdu site is not that difficult once you get the hang of it. You will be developing your site just as usual. The fact that urdu is written...
Shariq Mustaquim
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May 9, 2006
2:59 pm

Assalaamo Alaikum, Shariq Bhai, all of your points are wellabout urdu web development but the asked case is this how some one set <ol> type to alif (الف) as...
AbdulSattarعبد...
minhajian Offline Send Email
May 10, 2006
4:11 pm

thanks man for properly understanding what i was saying and asking. ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?...
Me
nua_pk Offline Send Email
May 11, 2006
5:51 pm

you are right mihaj brother ... i had no clue of this problem ... Shariq Mustaquim Founding Editor http://www.boriat.com ... From:...
Shariq Mustaquim
shariqmus Offline Send Email
May 11, 2006
6:05 pm

Another matter too is better to discuss here. The query was in fact for the feature of MS Word that 'autoformats' a numbered list. Yes, most of the features in...
Aijaz Akhtar
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May 12, 2006
5:04 am

Another point that I want to point out is the fact Nafees Web Naskh font gets substituted in Opera browser. I dont know the reason behind this but Opera simply...
Shariq Mustaquim
shariqmus Offline Send Email
May 13, 2006
9:05 am

With regard to NWN font, can someone make clear if the NWN can be included in Linux distros or with OO. Although, the NWN license seems to allow this, but the...
jessbody@...
jessbody2000 Offline Send Email
May 14, 2006
5:32 am

Dear All, including OSS overloads :-), Nafees Web Naskh has been released Open Source GPL (not LGPL or BSD). It can certainly be included in Linux distros and...
Sarmad Hussain
panl10n Offline Send Email
May 14, 2006
5:27 pm

Dear Urdu lovers here is a link for the first unicode urdu translation of quran online. It is really nice and designed very well. I was happy to see it and...
Sayyid Salman Rizavi
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May 15, 2006
5:35 am

And this is done by one of our group members here, namely Abdul Sattar. So there is a kind of contribution from this group also! Salam Syed Sami uz Zafar...
Syed Sami-uz-Zafar Na...
samiuzzafar Offline Send Email
May 15, 2006
4:23 pm

That is nice! I congratualte Mr Abdul Sattar and who ever did this job. Can Mr Abdul Sattar or any other person guide me about using this translation (urdu...
Sayyid Salman Rizavi
salmanrizavi Offline Send Email
May 16, 2006
11:36 am

Salam All! I must inform u all that, this is not true that "www.irfan-ul- quran.com" is the first unicode urdu translation of Quran. The first unicode URDU...
baazauq Offline Send Email May 16, 2006
11:37 am

Dear Yes you may be right. Since it is written on the site of irfan-ul-quran that it is the first one in urdu unicode so i reported the same in good faith so...
Sayyid Salman Rizavi
salmanrizavi Offline Send Email
May 16, 2006
6:03 pm

... irfan-ul-quran that it is the first one in urdu unicode so i reported the same in good faith so that every one can benefit. I respond only to rectify this...
baazauq Offline Send Email May 17, 2006
9:23 am

dear one very good point in the shah fahad website you pointed out is that they use really urdu digits and not english ones in the javascript keyboard for...
Sayyid Salman Rizavi
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May 16, 2006
6:03 pm

Walaikum us Salam Yes, True Jazakumullah Khairan baazauq <baazauq@...> wrote: Salam All! I must inform u all that, this is not true that "www.irfan-ul- ...
Muhammad Najeeb
hadaaya Offline Send Email
May 16, 2006
6:04 pm

Jaza'Allah baazauq for sending the link. By the way, I was unable to find details about tafaseer. Only introduction page was found. Can you help with that? ...
Kashif Aziz
kashaziz Offline Send Email
May 16, 2006
6:07 pm

Yeah, I know. I think, u r asking about "Tasaneef-e-Tafseer ki fahrist (details about tafaseer)". Regarding this issue, I have asked to the Qurancomplex people...
baazauq Offline Send Email May 17, 2006
9:28 am

Dear baazauq Assalam o Alaikum You have pointed out a useful site www.qurancomplex.com with Urdu translation and Tafsir. But I have doubts whether your...
Syed Sami-uz-Zafar Na...
samiuzzafar Offline Send Email
May 18, 2006
11:49 am

Urdu Support for Windows 2000 I have created an application to install urdu support in Windows 2000 with the ease of a few mouse clicks. Might be useful for...
Shariq Mustaquim
shariqmus Offline Send Email
May 13, 2006
9:25 am

Aijaz, Word and OO can export document in HTML. This is only intended for quickly making the doc available on an intranet. These wordprocessors are not...
jessbody@...
jessbody2000 Offline Send Email
May 13, 2006
9:38 am

A major limitation that none has pointed out concerns many of the Unicode characters that have not been addressed by many fonts. Although basic writing can be...
Aijaz Akhtar
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May 12, 2006
5:07 am

Assalam o Alaikum I agree with the points raised by Aijaz Bhai except for the point related to "Change Case" feature. Urdu don't have a concept of capital...
Syed Sami-uz-Zafar Na...
samiuzzafar Offline Send Email
May 13, 2006
9:10 am

Aijaz, the matter of "unicode control characters" is unrelated to fonts. It depends on the rendering library, Qt/GTK under Linux, etc.The unicode control chars...
jessbody@...
jessbody2000 Offline Send Email
May 13, 2006
9:34 am

But Jess, if the browsers make use of the control characters, how can Notepad, your favourite web designing, rather writing software would do with the control...
Aijaz Akhtar
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May 14, 2006
5:38 am
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