Well, after a very busy weekend I've finally managed to find some time to press on with this Real Cider definition thing. Here's my summary of the discussion...
In article <22662A3D243F5343A3C24A4012A78DB22ACB9F@... ystemhost.net>, mark.shirley@... writes ... What irony was that? ... It wasn't so...
Roy Bailey
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Nov 17, 2003 7:19 am
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Hi, guilty as charged of being a medic, although I've never seen a case of Legionella, it's quite uncommon y'know The Legionella pneumophilia bacillus lives in...
stephen hayes
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Nov 17, 2003 8:54 am
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Rose - that would explain it all right - I've also seen very high juice aples - makes loading the cheeses very difficult as you get sort of 'juice holes'...
Michael Dawes
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Nov 17, 2003 11:47 am
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From: "Andy Roberts" <andy.roberts@...> ... Well, it hasn't changed a whole lot, really, has it? A few comments on the final definition: Artificial...
Hi Paul, Thanks for your timely reply on this, it's very useful. ... implies ... keeving to ... <snip> This is not my intention. In the earlier discussion...
In article <3FB7BDC3.6030903@...>, Andrew Lea <andrew_lea@...> writes ... I do it for my perry, on the recommendation of Kevin Minchew,...
Roy Bailey
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Nov 17, 2003 7:01 pm
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Andy R posted: *snip* amended proposal--------- Real cider is the product of fermenting fresh apple juice. The amount of apple juice which went into the...
rayblockley
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Nov 17, 2003 7:27 pm
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Hi again,, sorry to return to the subject of nasty germs and cider having just looked up the reference to E Coli 157 and cider in "The Apple Grower", in fact...
stephen hayes
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Nov 17, 2003 7:48 pm
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That's reasonable, in fact quite good Stephen ... From: "Paul Gunningham" <paul@...> To: <ukcider@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003...
stephen hayes
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Nov 17, 2003 7:53 pm
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There will a small selection of cider and perry at the beer festival which runs from the 27th-29th Nov at the Old Drill Hall Old Bedford Road Luton. Visit...
I understand refined sugar is not "natural" but an industrially derived substance. This is what will end up in the majority of what is produced. It may sound...
puredrinks@...
Nov 17, 2003 11:55 pm
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... Oversimplifying, the reason that economic considerations override here is that cidermakers must make a profit to stay in business! It is necessary to...
rcd@...
Nov 18, 2003 8:56 am
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In a message dated 18/11/2003 02:07:43 GMT Standard Time, puredrinks@... ... Sugar refining from e.g. sugar cane or sugar beet is an industrial process but...
Take a look at these, I feel another import coming on! My Fruit Shark is getting board whilst we work away with our 9 litre press, I've sent off for a price...
Refined sugar is made by treating raw cane or beet sugar with calcium salts to remove any "taint" from the plant which produced it. I believe that Mr Tate amd...
Just in from the NACM newsletter. Prince William is to have a new cider apple variety named after him. The apple is large and robust yet mild in nature with a...
I absolutely agree with this. If the point of this process is to come up with a definition of real cider which is aimed at some kind of minimum quality, I...
... Just to avoid confusion later, is this meant to exclude all flavourings or just artificial ones? Unfortunately, the matter of flavorings isn't as ...
Gary Awdey
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Nov 18, 2003 11:04 am
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These look similar to the presses a company in Kent were importing some years ago. I remember they were a little dearer, and better quality than the Hungarian...
... I did wonder about that but their larger presses are hydraulic, I've never seen that on a basket press and wonder if that would solve the problem and give...
I disagree altogether with Paul and MARK on this. Sparkling cider is a great English tradition which antedates Champagne. I like sparkling cider very much...
Michael Stenton
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Nov 18, 2003 12:23 pm
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Artificial flavourings. Natural flavourings should be permitted - by implication. I don't want strange chemicals in my drink, but, equally, don't want to ban...
Michael Stenton
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Nov 18, 2003 12:45 pm
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... But you don't mean the same. You mean differently. Carbonated wine is permitted, and enjoyed, even tho champagne is certainly better. Michael Stenton...
Michael Stenton
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Nov 18, 2003 12:53 pm
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Would flavourings fall foul of C&Extortion,I remember a "lavender ?"cider that had to go when it was "discovered". A shame as it was a lovely drink(even if it...
puredrinks@...
Nov 18, 2003 1:08 pm
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My assumption here based on Andy's desire to concentrate on the juice aspect and simplicity, the opinions of some others that favoured some aspect of choice...
Michael Dawes
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Nov 18, 2003 1:22 pm
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.......now there's a thought, I'd been wondering what on earth to do with all that lavender growing in my garden!...
Michael Dawes
michael@...
Nov 18, 2003 1:28 pm
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Wasn't it Franklins Lavender Perry? Perhaps the problems Bulmers have been suffering recently might persuade the Franklins to start up again. Mark ... From:...
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