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I'm working on this in the very early AM here.....Actually BEFORE my
coffee......whoaa, you don't want to know me before my coffee......
:-(....anyway here goes:.....I'm going to run down some of my notes, and then
later, I'll post some of what my feelings were.....I hope everyone will do the
same:

(Please note before I begin some of the spellings of people's names may be
incorrect, I tried my best phonetically)

WABC Radio Show 9pm esdt to 1am esdt...8/4/01--8/5/01-- Subject: TWA Flight 800

Studio Guests: Jack Cashill, James Sanders, Don Nibert, Mike Wire

Telephone callers: Paul Angelides, Joyce Campbell, Joel Santistabon, "Tom" Al
Mundo, Ray Lahr, Glen Schulze, Howard Mann, Eric Shawn, "Judith"
somebody, (I failed to get her last name)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Joel Santistabon.......WABC reporter......Spoke with 9 witnesses and 1 official
w/in the first hour......he arrived ahead of the FBI......ALL the witnesses
indicated the same thing......"a bright object going straight up"....then the
subsequent fireball........Interviewed Paul Cole the Center Moriches Fire
Chief....he was on his boat at the time........he had the same
observation......general consensus was some type of missile.

Don Nibert, Montoursville, Pa. Daughter was killed aboard Fl. 800..........Had
"paranormal" experience PRIOR to his daughter's death......Same
evening.....approx an hour before he learned of the tragedy.......His mother who
had been dead for 3 years at the time....."spoke to him"....and stated Cheryl
(his daughter) was "OK"....she was now with her.........Then subsequently had a
"dream" while he was staying at the Ramada Inn where he was summoned to NY to
view (ID) the body of his daughter......In the dream he saw "a missile"....."a
sub".....and a "smaller boat".........believes a missile downed the plane, no
opinion on whether it was "friendly fire" or a terrorist.

Mire Wire........(Witness)......Upon whom the CIA reportedly relied in the
making of their video.......Discussion of 4/30/1999 NTSB document...which was
effectively an interrogation of CIA analysts (unnamed)......Indicating the FBI
re-interviewed Wire approx. a year after the event for a 3rd time.

Mike Wire states:..."sonic booms" shook his house..several seconds of "rolling
thunder"....followed by several loud reports...the CIA "manufactured the 3rd
interview".........the video cartoon was NOT representative of what he
saw.........his conclusion.....(missile)

"Tom".....did not divlge his last name.......skipper of a small research vessel
in the area........comments:...."there was no moon"......beaches were mostly
empty.....assisted in the recovery efforts......a "perfect night for a
covert-op"

Paul Angelides.......sound of explosions "shook his home".......witnessed flare
like object.....some commotion on the water, appeared to be a "boat
light".....didn't see where the flare like object originated.....gave a sketch
to the FBI.......which is now "missing"

Joyce Campbell (Traveling Press Secretary to Bob Dole).....thinks a missile
scenario would have had a "monumental impact on the election"

Al Mundo......Flight engineer on board Fl. 881....(Athens to NY)....later that
evening of course Fl. 800.....stated it was in his opinion NOT AN
ACCIDENT....related his story of April 1995 when lightning struck the same
aircraft......blowing off 20-25 sq. feet of the right wing skin......(accident
maintenance reports have "disappeared").....talked about the missing faring
which equated into approx. 2-3 thousand lbs of additional fuel consumption per
flight due to drag....wanted it fixed..thinks the CIA representation is a
joke...."doesn't know ANYONE at TWA who thinks it was an accident"

Glen Schulze.....reviewed the FDR data......4 seconds are
missing.........external pressure event accounted for the instrument readings.

Ray Lahr.........Discussed the Russell tape......also the Boeing, CIA,
NTSB......doubletalk re: the data used by the CIA to produce it's
cartoon.......thinks the 3,000 ft ascent after the nose was blown off is
"impossible"

Eric Shawn Fox TV News producer........leans toward a mechanical failure.....but
admits he cannot "reconcile"......witness reports and other data with a
mechanical failure.........thinks the subject definitely needs more
investigating

"Judith" somebody, I believe from the State Department....indicated the entire
"east coast" was on "high alert" at the time of the tragedy.......stated it
would be "hard, but not impossible"......to smuggle stingers in thru Canada.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Other brief remarks:............."the Navy DID NOT shoot down the
plane".....this statement was unchallenged by either Sanders or
Cashill......Airforce 1 was supposedly "upgraded" (countermeasures) ist quarter
of 1997 re: it's ability to deal with "stingers"....(manpads).....Jack Cashill
sees Kallstrom as a "tortured individual"......he was the ONLY one to say
this..........the rest of the remarks by others were quite
"anti-Kallstrom".........I don't believe Jim Hall's name was mentioned once.

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Sun Aug 5, 2001 11:33 am

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I'm working on this in the very early AM here.....Actually BEFORE my coffee......whoaa, you don't want to know me before my coffee...... :-(....anyway here...
John Fiorentino
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Aug 5, 2001
11:39 am

John, You have a mis-quote there somehow, Mike Wire was not at his house, he was at work on a bridge, (?Beach Lane?) the quote rolling thunder, and shook the ...
tj
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Aug 5, 2001
12:20 pm

Yes, he did say he was working on a bridge.......Sorry, it was the coffee.......actually my muddled notes........REALLY can't blame the coffee..........It's in...
John Fiorentino
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Aug 5, 2001
12:38 pm

John, I'm sure Angelides also described thunder in his statement on Bill Donaldsons interim report. His audible memories always sounded compelling to me, more...
tj
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Aug 5, 2001
12:58 pm
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