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Way to go Tom!   Message List  
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Re: Way to go Tom!


Cars use GPS to draw maps for the drivers, units that can be
purchsed by the man on the street and installed. GLP units are
COMMON these days, and in use.

Tom says 'The first civilian GPS products did not appear until the
mid 1980's and GPS products for the general aviation community did
not start appearing until the early 1990's.'

SO, they do EXIST, for PLANES!

Tom says 'Certified for non-precision approach units did not appear
until the mid 1990's.'

SO, they have been certified for USE IN PLANES.

Tom says 'GPS and civilian aviation have a very short history in
relative terms.'

SO, they are IN USE, again.
BECAUSE: compasses have only begun to become unrealiable, recently.

Seems in Tom's own words, HE has misstated.


--- In tt-watch@yahoogroups.com, "tgmosher2000" <tgmosher2000@y...>
wrote:
>
> --- In tt-watch@yahoogroups.com, "Hap Griffin" <lgriffin@s...>
wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DrPostman" <antibellum@h...>
> > To: <tt-watch@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:26 PM
> > Subject: [tt-watch] Re: Way to go Tom!
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In tt-watch@yahoogroups.com, "Hap Griffin" <lgriffin@s...>
wrote:
> > > > Tom blew Nancy away at the end of her babble session on
Gentile just
> > > now. What a load of crap! How can anyone buy into her
foolishness
> > > and still show their face in public?
> > > >
> > > > Way to go Tom!
> > > >
> > > > Hap
> > >
> > > I am VERY sorry I missed that. I wonder if she
> > > will put up an honest transcript? Can you give
> > > us a brief synopsis of what Tom did?
> > >
> > > Jamie
> > >
> >
> > He asked her where she got her information on GPS's in
airplanes.
> After she
> > rambled for a minute about how she had inside experts who she
> wouldn't name
> > in the aircraft arena, he said that everything she had on her
website
> > regarding that subject was crap. She then said that what she
had posted
> > came from her "experts". He then announced that he was an
> experienced pilot
> > of 30 years and used to work for the FAA and that what she had
> posted was
> > patently false. It left her speechless for a moment until she
started
> > babbling about something else and Lou had to cut her off because
the
> show
> > was ending.
> >
> > Hap
>
> Actually, I worked with the FAA not for them. However, I've been
> involved in aviation since 1976 and wrote pilot training manuals
for
> eleven years. I now write maintenance publications for a large
> aircraft modification center.
>
> Her post about GPS is still so full of holes it's pathetic. The
first
> civilian GPS products did not appear until the mid 1980's and GPS
> products for the general aviation community did not start appearing
> until the early 1990's. Certified for non-precision approach units
did
> not appear until the mid 1990's. GPS and civilian aviation have a
very
> short history in relative terms. Before that there was radio range
> (obsolete), VHF-Nav (almost every GA aircraft has one or more), ADF
> (pre-dates VORs), Inertial Navigation System (INS - only the big
boys
> and the military have these).
>
> Enough of my rant.
>
> Tom






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Tom blew Nancy away at the end of her babble session on Gentile just now. What a load of crap! How can anyone buy into her foolishness and still show their...
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... now. What a load of crap! How can anyone buy into her foolishness and still show their face in public? ... I am VERY sorry I missed that. I wonder if...
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... From: "DrPostman" <antibellum@...> To: <tt-watch@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:26 PM Subject: [tt-watch] Re: Way to go Tom!...
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... After she ... wouldn't name ... experienced pilot ... posted was ... show ... Another priceless moment that will no doubt be kept off the transcript....
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... website ... posted ... started ... the ... I don't think either one of them will mind very much....
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... airplanes. ... had ... because ... I just got a brand new 19" LCD monitor, and you made me spit coffee on it....
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... After she ... wouldn't name ... experienced pilot ... posted was ... show ... Actually, I worked with the FAA not for them. However, I've been involved in...
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Cars use GPS to draw maps for the drivers, units that can be purchsed by the man on the street and installed. GLP units are COMMON these days, and in use. Tom...
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I will answer this at length later in the day (I'm at work now). However, now you are twisting your own words to make it look like I'm wrong. Unfortunately,...
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... I'm ... it's ... Hey, she responded. You must be doing something right....
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... you ... I think I struck a nerve. I don't think she likes it when someone tells her she is wrong on the Lou Gentile show. One of these days I should post...
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... [...] ... the ... from ... Don't tease. If you can't post it here, there are a couple of other 'fan sites'....
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... <lgriffin@s...> ... because ... appearing ... units ... ADF ... I'll be darned. Lieder actually responded to a post. BTW, Nancy, your AC sock puppet on...
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... No, YOU have. You totally missed his point about how small aircraft do not use magnetic compasses. They never have. They don't need a GPS to navigate....
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... A little clarification is warranted. Aircraft do have a magnetic compass (it's part of the minimum instrumentation of compass, altimeter, and airspeed...
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