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#21193 From: kendall bonner <merc2dogs@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:35 pm
Subject: Re: Last Triton?
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Must have the wrong hull number, 707 is sitting at my friends house in Morley mi.
 It's the basic later east coast Triton, no special mods etc.

Ken.

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:

From: Harry James <welshman@...>
Subject: [triton] Last Triton?
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 2:00 PM



I got this message on another group, thought I would forward it.

HJ

Bruce R Collemer wrote:

I worked for Pearson Yachts for 25 years.

 

I bought the last Pearson Triton hull and deck (1969) and spent the next 2 years building her. It was hull number 707 and loaded

with customizations and options.

 

Bruce

 

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#21192 From: Harry James <welshman@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:00 pm
Subject: Last Triton?
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I got this message on another group, thought I would forward it.

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Bruce R Collemer wrote:

I worked for Pearson Yachts for 25 years.

 

I bought the last Pearson Triton hull and deck (1969) and spent the next 2 years building her. It was hull number 707 and loaded

with customizations and options.

 

Bruce

 

_._,_.___


#21191 From: Harry James <welshman@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:55 pm
Subject: MIR down
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Ray

The MIR is down this morning, is this an intermittent problem or is
there another issue.

HJ

#21190 From: Michael Lewis <lewismi@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:01 am
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Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:34:57 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [triton] Norvane Windvane selfle to use it  steering







I have a Norvane on my Triton. I've had it for 3 years or so. I have a Monitor
on my Ranger
33. It's ( the Norvane) more trouble free than the Monitor. It costs half as
much as the Monitor. It has fewer parts that are just another place for a
problem. I was able to use it 90% of the time from
Berkley to La Paz Baja Sur, most of the time it was dead down wind which is the
hardest place for a wind vane to work. go to the Norvane website, they have a
picture of a Triton installation and it looks just like mine. It's a no problem
installation which s something you can't say about the Monitor....On Thu,
11/26/09, Scott <slynds3434@...> wrote:



From: Scott <slynds3434@...>
Subject: [triton] Norvane Windvane self steering
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:08 PM




Hi, does anyone have a norvane self steering on their Triton, if so do you have
any photos of the instalation and comments on how well it works (or doesn't
work)!Scott #227

#21189 From: JIM HART <jhart369@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:34 am
Subject: Re: Norvane Windvane selfle to use it steering
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I have a Norvane on my Triton. I've had it for 3 years or so.  I have a Monitor on my Ranger
33. It's ( the Norvane) more trouble free than the Monitor. It costs half as much as the Monitor. It has fewer parts that are just another place for a problem. I was able to use it 90% of the time from
Berkley to La Paz Baja Sur, most of the time it was dead down wind which is the hardest place for a wind vane to work. go to the Norvane website, they have a picture of a Triton installation and it looks just like mine. It's a no problem installation which s something you can't say about the Monitor....On Thu, 11/26/09, Scott <slynds3434@...> wrote:

From: Scott <slynds3434@...>
Subject: [triton] Norvane Windvane self steering
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:08 PM

 
Hi, does anyone have a norvane self steering on their Triton, if so do you have any photos of the instalation and comments on how well it works (or doesn't work)!Scott #227



#21188 From: kendall bonner <merc2dogs@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:23 am
Subject: RE: WANTED: People To Work From Home. Must Have Computer
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Aww, come on now, I was looking forward to seeing if I could get the Triton equipped with sattelite internet and writing it off as a business expense.

Ken.
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Subject: RE: [triton] WANTED: People To Work From Home. Must Have Computer
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#21187 From: "Scott" <slynds3434@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:08 am
Subject: Norvane Windvane self steering
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Hi, does anyone have a norvane self steering on their Triton, if so do you have
any photos of the instalation and comments on how well it works (or doesn't
work)!Scott #227

#21186 From: dragons slain <exody@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:22 pm
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#21184 From: "Tom O'Farrell" <Triton499@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: Triton Invitational Event
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That's right Bianca. Dave might come too.
Tom

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:11 PM, <lawrence129@...> wrote:

Yes: Inka, Sandpiper, Ca Ira, Sea Deuce, Triton's Fury, and Bianca have indicated participation. We'd like to see if anyone else would like to come and play.
Dan

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From: "Tom O'Farrell" <Triton499@...>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:31:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [triton] Triton Invitational Event

Dan,
So you set up a mass mailer. Good idea.
Do we really have 6 boats?
Tom

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Daniel Lawrence <lawrence129@...> wrote:

The Herring Island Sailing Fleet (HISF), located near the Miles River in the Chesapeake Bay, is hosting the 2nd Annual Hugh E. Kabler Triton Invitational on 31 July, 2010. There are currently six boats signed up with intentions to participate, and we welcome any others who would like to be there. There will be a raft at the dock of the family of Hugh Kabler, one of the founding fathers of the Chesapeake Bay Triton Fleet (CBTF).
Anyone who would like to come participate is welcome, it's sure to be a fun weekend.
Dan Lawrence
Secretary, CBTF




#21183 From: lawrence129@...
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: Triton Invitational Event
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Yes: Inka, Sandpiper, Ca Ira, Sea Deuce, Triton's Fury, and Bianca have indicated participation. We'd like to see if anyone else would like to come and play.
Dan

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From: "Tom O'Farrell" <Triton499@...>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:31:48 -0500
To: <triton@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [triton] Triton Invitational Event

 

Dan,
So you set up a mass mailer. Good idea.
Do we really have 6 boats?
Tom

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Daniel Lawrence <lawrence129@gmail.com> wrote:

The Herring Island Sailing Fleet (HISF), located near the Miles River in the Chesapeake Bay, is hosting the 2nd Annual Hugh E. Kabler Triton Invitational on 31 July, 2010. There are currently six boats signed up with intentions to participate, and we welcome any others who would like to be there. There will be a raft at the dock of the family of Hugh Kabler, one of the founding fathers of the Chesapeake Bay Triton Fleet (CBTF).
Anyone who would like to come participate is welcome, it's sure to be a fun weekend.
Dan Lawrence
Secretary, CBTF



#21182 From: "Tom O'Farrell" <Triton499@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: Triton Invitational Event
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Dan,
So you set up a mass mailer. Good idea.
Do we really have 6 boats?
Tom

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Daniel Lawrence <lawrence129@...> wrote:

The Herring Island Sailing Fleet (HISF), located near the Miles River in the Chesapeake Bay, is hosting the 2nd Annual Hugh E. Kabler Triton Invitational on 31 July, 2010. There are currently six boats signed up with intentions to participate, and we welcome any others who would like to be there. There will be a raft at the dock of the family of Hugh Kabler, one of the founding fathers of the Chesapeake Bay Triton Fleet (CBTF).
Anyone who would like to come participate is welcome, it's sure to be a fun weekend.
Dan Lawrence
Secretary, CBTF



#21181 From: "Daniel Lawrence" <lawrence129@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:46 pm
Subject: Triton Invitational Event
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The Herring Island Sailing Fleet (HISF), located near the Miles River in the Chesapeake Bay, is hosting the 2nd Annual Hugh E. Kabler Triton Invitational on 31 July, 2010. There are currently six boats signed up with intentions to participate, and we welcome any others who would like to be there.  There will be a raft at the dock of the family of Hugh Kabler, one of the founding fathers of the Chesapeake Bay Triton Fleet (CBTF).
 
Anyone who would like to come participate is welcome, it's sure to be a fun weekend.
 
Dan Lawrence
Secretary, CBTF

#21180 From: "hhuberman" <hhuberman@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:11 am
Subject: Re: deck crazing
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Hey, Rob, Ted, Jean-Luc, Chris, Nick and Dan (of CI) -

Thanks for your collective advice and suggestions.  Will try a bit of each of
your ideas (sanding, xylene / epoxy, priming, Brightside, and carving out the
deeper / structural bits and epoxying.

Harris

--- In triton@yahoogroups.com, rssquire@... wrote:
>
>
> Ted is absolutely correct.  If there are structural cracks, they need to be
sorted and filled, but crazing from the old gel coat sun exposure need not be a
big deal.  If you sand and prime, the deeper crazing will reappear.  Take a
little more time with an old beer can opener or a dremel and get to the bottom
of those, then fill and reprime.  Attached is a photo of Head over Heels after
that type of treatment.  On top of the primer is a couple of coats of
Brightside.  The non skid isn't perfect.  There are some patches of crazing, but
all in all it is in good enough shape.  ...and I too, like the dull finish of
the non skid.  I'm considering matching the non skid color and using an airbrush
and just paint the crazing lines....like I said, there aren't too many spots.
>
>
> Rob/96
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TJACMC@...
> To: triton@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2009 3:31 pm
> Subject: [triton] RE: deck crazing
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am sorry to say that this is not a simple problem with a simple solution. 
Some crazing may be cosmetic and confined to the outer layers of polyester
resin.  Others may be due to deeper cracks in the fiberglass reinforced plastic.
Sanding followed by a layer of epoxy may fix the crazing.  It is sometimes
difficult to repair cracks that penetrate through the fiberglass laminate.
>
> I sanded my crazed deck a few years ago and then coated it with several layers
of epoxy laminating resin.  After six years some of the larger cracks reappeared
and a few pimples developed in the larger areas of the foredeck.  About 90% of
the crazing was eliminated by the epoxy and subsequent painting.
>
> The only cracks that reappeared were due to underlying structural problems.  I
now understand that the pimples on the foredeck are due to the differences in
thermal expansion rates between the surface epoxy and the polyester resin
substrate.
>
> Ted Andresen
> Gypsy, #75 (1960)
>

#21179 From: rssquire@...
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:02 am
Subject: Re: RE: deck crazing
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Ted is absolutely correct.  If there are structural cracks, they need to be sorted and filled, but crazing from the old gel coat sun exposure need not be a big deal.  If you sand and prime, the deeper crazing will reappear.  Take a little more time with an old beer can opener or a dremel and get to the bottom of those, then fill and reprime.  Attached is a photo of Head over Heels after that type of treatment.  On top of the primer is a couple of coats of Brightside.  The non skid isn't perfect.  There are some patches of crazing, but all in all it is in good enough shape.  ...and I too, like the dull finish of the non skid.  I'm considering matching the non skid color and using an airbrush and just paint the crazing lines....like I said, there aren't too many spots.

Rob/96  


-----Original Message-----
From: TJACMC@...
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2009 3:31 pm
Subject: [triton] RE: deck crazing

 
I am sorry to say that this is not a simple problem with a simple solution.  Some crazing may be cosmetic and confined to the outer layers of polyester resin.  Others may be due to deeper cracks in the fiberglass reinforced plastic.  Sanding followed by a layer of epoxy may fix the crazing.  It is sometimes difficult to repair cracks that penetrate through the fiberglass laminate.
 
I sanded my crazed deck a few years ago and then coated it with several layers of epoxy laminating resin.  After six years some of the larger cracks reappeared and a few pimples developed in the larger areas of the foredeck.  About 90% of the crazing was eliminated by the epoxy and subsequent painting.
 
The only cracks that reappeared were due to underlying structural problems.  I now understand that the pimples on the foredeck are due to the differences in thermal expansion rates between the surface epoxy and the polyester resin substrate.
 
Ted Andresen
Gypsy, #75 (1960)
 

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#21178 From: Jlmatt@...
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:56 pm
Subject: Re: deck crazing
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Harris,
I remember the post you are referring to. It was a year or 2 ago. Someone suggested a mix of epoxy and xylene. . It makes the expoxy water thin so it so it really penetrates the tiny cracks in the gel coat. I tried it but that was just a couple of months ago so I can't guarantee it yet. I also used that mix to treat dry rot in wood.
Jean-Luc
 
In a message dated 11/21/2009 4:08:16 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, sailvela@... writes:
 

I had the same problem with my Wanderer, including faded nonskid which showed the brush strokes of the application of the gelcoat.  After, wondering, plotting and dreaming of the proper high tech solution for 7 years I took another approach. For a few years I painted the smooth parts with a white flat primer figuring over the course of a few years it would fill the crazing and look good at 20ft, which it did.  I liked the look of the flat finish. This also chalked a bit instead of flaking or peeling which I also like because it reduces the paint buildup and is much easier to sand and prep every other year. This year, after painting the smooth parts, I realized the nonskid was just awful. So we went to Lowes and had a lucky break to find a Valspar premixed non skid that was available in ANY COLOR. The color of Interlux and Pettit paints were just not right and that was contributing to my procrastination. We found a great color (tannish grey, similar to weathered teak) and taped and brushed the entire nonskid in hours. We painted right over the old weave pattern. The result is fantastic. It took almost a whole gallon to fill the minor defects and blemishes that disappeared .We love our boat again. The nonskid has a very nice grip. We decided if we had to do this every few years it would be well worth it. I actually expect and hope the nonskid also chalks thin to prevent buildup. We have a friend who used the marine products on her Wanderer, has a bad color, shiny, slippery, uneven finish and peeling paint after a few years that will be difficult to refinish.       Nick


From: triton@yahoogroups.com [mailto:triton@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rssquire@aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:36 PM
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [triton] deck crazing

 

Harris,

    When I bought #96, the entire cabin top, in fact all of the smooth areas of the gel coat were crazed...more like checking.  Instead of making it hard, I chose the lazy approach.  First, I sanded with a power sander and 220 sandpaper.  I then painted on some primer and sanded with again with 220 and added another coat of primer.  Another sanding at 320, then I painted on a coat of Brightside.  Now we are down the road about 17 years and I have had a complete resanding and paint with a couple of coats of Brightside.  It looks great!

    There were a couple of areas which had some deeper crazing, usually at spots were there was an impact of some kind.  There, I used my Dremel and a small sharp grinding tip and then filled the areas with a filler and primed and painted.....no biggie, for sure!  

    I subscribe to the 50-50 approach to car restoration and I applied it to the boat.  That is, it has to look good from 50 feet at 50 mph.  Give it a try and see if this approach will be sufficient for your desired outcome.  If not, a little sanding and you can apply a more aggressive approach.

SEND PICTURES, before/after....your engaging smile!

Rob/96

   

-----Original Message-----
From: hhuberman <hhuberman@yahoo.com>
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 6:56 pm
Subject: [triton] deck crazing

 

A couple of years back, someone posted a response on what to do about crazing (craizing?)

I have a 1961 EC Triton, "Sahalja" #217, in City Island, NYC, with extensive crazing over all deck areas. I've held off painting because I've been unsure how to prepare the deck first.

The prior post strongly urged NOT trying to grind down all the crazed gelcoat, but a more subtle approach of lightly sanding, then first using a diluted West system epoxy to fill in the crazing, building up to regular (undiluted) epoxy, and then priming/painting.

I'd like to try that, but wanted to hear again exactly what the solvent to initially dilute the epoxy is, and how much to use.

Thanks,
Harris


#21177 From: TJACMC@...
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:31 pm
Subject: RE: deck crazing
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I am sorry to say that this is not a simple problem with a simple solution.  Some crazing may be cosmetic and confined to the outer layers of polyester resin.  Others may be due to deeper cracks in the fiberglass reinforced plastic.  Sanding followed by a layer of epoxy may fix the crazing.  It is sometimes difficult to repair cracks that penetrate through the fiberglass laminate.

 

I sanded my crazed deck a few years ago and then coated it with several layers of epoxy laminating resin.  After six years some of the larger cracks reappeared and a few pimples developed in the larger areas of the foredeck.  About 90% of the crazing was eliminated by the epoxy and subsequent painting.

 

The only cracks that reappeared were due to underlying structural problems.  I now understand that the pimples on the foredeck are due to the differences in thermal expansion rates between the surface epoxy and the polyester resin substrate.

 

Ted Andresen

Gypsy, #75 (1960)

 


#21176 From: Nick <sailvela@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:07 pm
Subject: RE: deck crazing
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I had the same problem with my Wanderer, including faded nonskid which showed the brush strokes of the application of the gelcoat.  After, wondering, plotting and dreaming of the proper high tech solution for 7 years I took another approach. For a few years I painted the smooth parts with a white flat primer figuring over the course of a few years it would fill the crazing and look good at 20ft, which it did.  I liked the look of the flat finish. This also chalked a bit instead of flaking or peeling which I also like because it reduces the paint buildup and is much easier to sand and prep every other year. This year, after painting the smooth parts, I realized the nonskid was just awful. So we went to Lowes and had a lucky break to find a Valspar premixed non skid that was available in ANY COLOR. The color of Interlux and Pettit paints were just not right and that was contributing to my procrastination. We found a great color (tannish grey, similar to weathered teak) and taped and brushed the entire nonskid in hours. We painted right over the old weave pattern. The result is fantastic. It took almost a whole gallon to fill the minor defects and blemishes that disappeared .We love our boat again. The nonskid has a very nice grip. We decided if we had to do this every few years it would be well worth it. I actually expect and hope the nonskid also chalks thin to prevent buildup. We have a friend who used the marine products on her Wanderer, has a bad color, shiny, slippery, uneven finish and peeling paint after a few years that will be difficult to refinish.       Nick

 


From: triton@yahoogroups.com [mailto:triton@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rssquire@...
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:36 PM
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [triton] deck crazing

 

 

Harris,

 

    When I bought #96, the entire cabin top, in fact all of the smooth areas of the gel coat were crazed...more like checking.  Instead of making it hard, I chose the lazy approach.  First, I sanded with a power sander and 220 sandpaper.  I then painted on some primer and sanded with again with 220 and added another coat of primer.  Another sanding at 320, then I painted on a coat of Brightside.  Now we are down the road about 17 years and I have had a complete resanding and paint with a couple of coats of Brightside.  It looks great!

 

    There were a couple of areas which had some deeper crazing, usually at spots were there was an impact of some kind.  There, I used my Dremel and a small sharp grinding tip and then filled the areas with a filler and primed and painted.....no biggie, for sure!  

 

    I subscribe to the 50-50 approach to car restoration and I applied it to the boat.  That is, it has to look good from 50 feet at 50 mph.  Give it a try and see if this approach will be sufficient for your desired outcome.  If not, a little sanding and you can apply a more aggressive approach.

 

SEND PICTURES, before/after....your engaging smile!

 

Rob/96

 

 

 

   

-----Original Message-----
From: hhuberman <hhuberman@yahoo.com>
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 6:56 pm
Subject: [triton] deck crazing

 

A couple of years back, someone posted a response on what to do about crazing (craizing?)

I have a 1961 EC Triton, "Sahalja" #217, in City Island, NYC, with extensive crazing over all deck areas. I've held off painting because I've been unsure how to prepare the deck first.

The prior post strongly urged NOT trying to grind down all the crazed gelcoat, but a more subtle approach of lightly sanding, then first using a diluted West system epoxy to fill in the crazing, building up to regular (undiluted) epoxy, and then priming/painting.

I'd like to try that, but wanted to hear again exactly what the solvent to initially dilute the epoxy is, and how much to use.

Thanks,
Harris


#21175 From: dmcelwreath@...
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: deck crazing
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Harris, I too have a 63 triton, also at City Island at HYC, and also with a crazing problem 5 years ago. I asked the Interlux rep at a boat show and he advised me to use a couple of their products. I only had to do light sanding, but I did have to put on 2 coats of the undercoat, then 3 coats of the final paint.  It was quite easy, but took some time.  It has lasted 5 years and I notice now it should be done again.  Dan McElwreath  296

----- Original Message -----
From: hhuberman
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:57 pm
Subject: [triton] deck crazing
To: triton@yahoogroups.com

> A couple of years back, someone posted a response on what to do
> about crazing (craizing?)
>
> I have a 1961 EC Triton, "Sahalja" #217, in City Island, NYC,
> with extensive crazing over all deck areas. I've held off
> painting because I've been unsure how to prepare the deck first.
>
> The prior post strongly urged NOT trying to grind down all the
> crazed gelcoat, but a more subtle approach of lightly sanding,
> then first using a diluted West system epoxy to fill in the
> crazing, building up to regular (undiluted) epoxy, and then
> priming/painting.
>
> I'd like to try that, but wanted to hear again exactly what the
> solvent to initially dilute the epoxy is, and how much to use.
>
> Thanks,
> Harris
>
>

#21174 From: "CTL-RoadRunner" <ctlytle@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:27 pm
Subject: RE: deck crazing
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My 63 EC had that problem, which I didn’t bother with for five years but just redid this spring along with my non-slip… if you’re talking about the deck area only…the hull and doghouse is another tale.  The original nonslip was pretty much gone and the exposed deck (not non-slip) had many cracks and checks.  At least on mine, there wasn’t all that much not covered by non-slip… mainly at the edges.  For the serious cracks and chips… and knowing no better… I used west system epoxy with some thickener (conidial silica I think) to make it like peanut butter and applied and sanded down smooth.  Worked well.  Sanded everything then gave it two coats of high build primer (Petit) which filled in the small cracks and checks nicely.  Then a couple coats of Petit white one part paint.  Looked great.  Then taped off the new smooth and painted white sections in order to apply non-slip – Kiwi Grip (Jamestown Distributors).  Love the stuff.  Comes in different colors and is like yogurt. “Paint” on an even coating, roll in the texture and immediately remove the tape so it doesn’t harden on.  I couldn’t have been more pleased with the results.  Covered all the cracks, chips, etc and even covered the old non-slip such that you’d never know it was there.  No grinding or sanding to deal with and really covers up and seals all sins of the flesh… I should be so lucky! It’s my first attempt at such a project and if I can do it anyone can.  Cheers.

Chris

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From: triton@yahoogroups.com [mailto:triton@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:14 PM
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [triton] deck crazing

 

 

Had the same problem on my wanderer, will discuss further, later

 


From: triton@yahoogroups.com [mailto:triton@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hhuberman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:56 PM
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [triton] deck crazing

 

 

A couple of years back, someone posted a response on what to do about crazing (craizing?)

I have a 1961 EC Triton, "Sahalja" #217, in City Island, NYC, with extensive crazing over all deck areas. I've held off painting because I've been unsure how to prepare the deck first.

The prior post strongly urged NOT trying to grind down all the crazed gelcoat, but a more subtle approach of lightly sanding, then first using a diluted West system epoxy to fill in the crazing, building up to regular (undiluted) epoxy, and then priming/painting.

I'd like to try that, but wanted to hear again exactly what the solvent to initially dilute the epoxy is, and how much to use.

Thanks,
Harris


#21173 From: rssquire@...
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:35 am
Subject: Re: deck crazing
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Harris,

When I bought #96, the entire cabin top, in fact all of the smooth areas of the gel coat were crazed...more like checking.  Instead of making it hard, I chose the lazy approach.  First, I sanded with a power sander and 220 sandpaper.  I then painted on some primer and sanded with again with 220 and added another coat of primer.  Another sanding at 320, then I painted on a coat of Brightside.  Now we are down the road about 17 years and I have had a complete resanding and paint with a couple of coats of Brightside.  It looks great!

There were a couple of areas which had some deeper crazing, usually at spots were there was an impact of some kind.  There, I used my Dremel and a small sharp grinding tip and then filled the areas with a filler and primed and painted.....no biggie, for sure!  

I subscribe to the 50-50 approach to car restoration and I applied it to the boat.  That is, it has to look good from 50 feet at 50 mph.  Give it a try and see if this approach will be sufficient for your desired outcome.  If not, a little sanding and you can apply a more aggressive approach.

SEND PICTURES, before/after....your engaging smile!

Rob/96






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From: hhuberman <hhuberman@...>
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 6:56 pm
Subject: [triton] deck crazing

 
A couple of years back, someone posted a response on what to do about crazing (craizing?)

I have a 1961 EC Triton, "Sahalja" #217, in City Island, NYC, with extensive crazing over all deck areas. I've held off painting because I've been unsure how to prepare the deck first.

The prior post strongly urged NOT trying to grind down all the crazed gelcoat, but a more subtle approach of lightly sanding, then first using a diluted West system epoxy to fill in the crazing, building up to regular (undiluted) epoxy, and then priming/painting.

I'd like to try that, but wanted to hear again exactly what the solvent to initially dilute the epoxy is, and how much to use.

Thanks,
Harris


#21172 From: Nick <sailvela@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:14 am
Subject: RE: deck crazing
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Had the same problem on my wanderer, will discuss further, later

 


From: triton@yahoogroups.com [mailto:triton@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hhuberman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:56 PM
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [triton] deck crazing

 

 

A couple of years back, someone posted a response on what to do about crazing (craizing?)

I have a 1961 EC Triton, "Sahalja" #217, in City Island, NYC, with extensive crazing over all deck areas. I've held off painting because I've been unsure how to prepare the deck first.

The prior post strongly urged NOT trying to grind down all the crazed gelcoat, but a more subtle approach of lightly sanding, then first using a diluted West system epoxy to fill in the crazing, building up to regular (undiluted) epoxy, and then priming/painting.

I'd like to try that, but wanted to hear again exactly what the solvent to initially dilute the epoxy is, and how much to use.

Thanks,
Harris


#21171 From: "hhuberman" <hhuberman@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:56 am
Subject: deck crazing
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A couple of years back, someone posted a response on what to do about crazing
(craizing?)

I have a 1961 EC Triton, "Sahalja" #217, in City Island, NYC, with extensive
crazing over all deck areas.  I've held off painting because I've been unsure
how to prepare the deck first.

The prior post strongly urged NOT trying to grind down all the crazed gelcoat,
but a more subtle approach of lightly sanding, then first using a diluted West
system epoxy to fill in the crazing, building up to regular (undiluted) epoxy,
and then priming/painting.

I'd like to try that, but wanted to hear again exactly what the solvent to
initially dilute the epoxy is, and how much to use.

Thanks,
Harris

#21170 From: George Doumas <george_doumas@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: Bill Shaw's P 26 in Greece
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Hi David,
this forum looks interesting, i' ll try to take advantage of it.
Thank you
Yorgos


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To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 11:33:43 PM
Subject: Re: [triton] Bill Shaw's P 26 in Greece

 

Hi Yorgos,
I suggest you also pose your question to the Plastic Classic Forum (http://www.plasticc lassicforum. com/).  You'll find a section on Questions and Answers and I'll bet you'll find someone there knowledgeable about the Pearson 26.
If I understand correctly, the rudder on your Drago 27 extends below the line of the keel.  Rudders on Pearson Tritons are often replaced and modified, but I've never heard of one reaching deeper than the keel- making it exposed like that doesn't make sense to me.
Good luck!
David

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#21169 From: "tritonoholic" <enormas@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: Stunning Triton Heater
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Nick, Jim has one he may part with- I have one off of ebay (275.00)
and our local surplus has one for about the same price. They are pricy
but I have passed on ebay ones that went as high as 350.00 They do add a nice
touch to the cabin-and the deck cap is small and the pipe is 1 inch. check out
(google)Blue pelican surplus.
Norman #150

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> Steve, I'm interested in the heater. Nick
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> From: triton@yahoogroups.com [mailto:triton@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Bob Fortner
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:06 AM
> To: triton@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [triton] Stunning Triton
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> I am interested in the stove, could you provide me with the link to the site
> it is posted on please?
>
>
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: stephen <mailto:stevescoll@...>  scoll
>
> To: triton@yahoogroups. <mailto:triton@yahoogroups.com> com
>
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:13 AM
>
> Subject: RE: [triton] Stunning Triton
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>
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>
>
> Nor mine.  We'll just have to imagine for ourselves what this boat might
> look like.
>
> I'll choose to imagine it as looking a lot like mine, only with all the
> projects I've in mind having been completed.
>
> Which reminds me.  I've just posted a Dickinson solid fuel heater and a Sea
> Swing Lp single burner for sale on Tim's "classic plastic" web site.
>
> Anybody want either of these get a hold of me.
>
> Steve
>
>
>   _____
>
>
> To: triton@yahoogroups.com
> From: aldan6@...
> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:58:36 -0600
> Subject: Re: [triton] Stunning Triton
>
>
>
> There is no "Welcome" link on the marina picture when I open the page.
>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2009, at 12:52 AM, Jlmatt@... wrote:
>
>
>
> On the marina picture click on "Welcome" then click on "Yachts for sale" or
> something like that.
>
>
>
> Jean-Luc 259
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/13/2009 10:23:56 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> rssquire@... writes:
>
>
>
> Yea, me too....
>
>
>
> Rob/96
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: triton@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [triton] Stunning Triton
>
>
>
> All I got were Marina pics.
>
> HJ
>
> Tom O'Farrell wrote:
> >
> >
> > Whether its worth the price aside, this is just a beautiful boat.
> >
> >  <http://www.regent-point/> www.regent-point.com <
> <http://www.regent-point.com/> http://www.regent-point.com/>
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#21168 From: rssquire@...
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: not just your average triton
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Salty Dog looks like Tim Lackey's day sailor....who'da thought by ripping the boats apart and making daysailors we could increase the value 20 times!

Rob/96


-----Original Message-----
From: danielguiod <danielguiod@...>
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2009 4:31 am
Subject: [triton] not just your average triton

 
Go to boats .com and search for pearson triton. Shearwater is listed along with a Triton in Venezuala. But check out the one in Wisconsin named Salty Dog! Dan #656


#21167 From: dan mcneil <aldan6@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:41 pm
Subject: Re: not just your average triton
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I am familiar with Salty Dog.  It has been moored in Eagle Harbor, WI for many years - it is the same harbor I moor my Triton.  The man who owns(ed?) it bought a worn out hull a number of years ago.  He removed the deck, fashioned a new one that has a small cuddy (like the forward cabin) forward and a long cockpit, like a Pearson Ensign.  He then added 18" to the transom, a bowsprit with a modified cutter rig.  I checked out the boats.com ad and noticed that the owner has lowered the price.  Last year it was listed for 250K!   It is a pretty boat.

On Nov 15, 2009, at 6:31 AM, danielguiod wrote:

Go to boats .com and search for pearson triton. Shearwater is listed along with a Triton in Venezuala. But check out the one in Wisconsin named Salty Dog! Dan #656



#21166 From: "danielguiod" <danielguiod@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:31 pm
Subject: not just your average triton
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Go to boats .com and search for pearson triton. Shearwater is listed along with
a Triton in Venezuala. But check out the one in Wisconsin named Salty Dog!   Dan
#656

#21165 From: Harry James <welshman@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:50 am
Subject: Re: Stunning Triton
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Welcome doesn't show in Firefox, does in IE. Here is the direct link

http://www.regent-point.com/Shearwater.htm

HJ

Jlmatt@... wrote:
On the marina picture click on "Welcome" then click on "Yachts for sale" or something like that.
 
Jean-Luc 259
 
 
In a message dated 11/13/2009 10:23:56 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, rssquire@... writes:
 

Yea, me too....


Rob/96


-----Original Message-----
From: Harry James <welshman@ptialaska.net>
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:03 pm
Subject: Re: [triton] Stunning Triton

 
All I got were Marina pics.

HJ

Tom O'Farrell wrote:
>
>
> Whether its worth the price aside, this is just a beautiful boat.
>
> www.regent-point.com <http://www.regent-point.com/>
>
>
>
>


#21164 From: stephen scoll <stevescoll@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:43 pm
Subject: RE: Stunning Triton
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It is a stunning boat.  I'm almost certain I've seen it for sale before this.  I agree with Rob about the prices.
Steve



To: triton@yahoogroups.com
From: bobfortner@...
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:06:18 -0600
Subject: Re: [triton] Stunning Triton

 

Steve
I am interested in the stove, could you provide me with the link to the site it is posted on please?
 
Bob
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: [triton] Stunning Triton

 
Nor mine.  We'll just have to imagine for ourselves what this boat might look like. 

I'll choose to imagine it as looking a lot like mine, only with all the projects I've in mind having been completed.

Which reminds me.  I've just posted a Dickinson solid fuel heater and a Sea Swing Lp single burner for sale on Tim's "classic plastic" web site.

Anybody want either of these get a hold of me.

Steve



To: triton@yahoogroups.com
From: aldan6@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:58:36 -0600
Subject: Re: [triton] Stunning Triton

 
There is no "Welcome" link on the marina picture when I open the page.

On Nov 14, 2009, at 12:52 AM, Jlmatt@... wrote:

On the marina picture click on "Welcome" then click on "Yachts for sale" or something like that.
 
Jean-Luc 259
 
 
In a message dated 11/13/2009 10:23:56 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, rssquire@aol.com writes:
 
Yea, me too....

Rob/96


-----Original Message-----
From: Harry James <welshman@ptialaska.net>
To: triton@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:03 pm
Subject: Re: [triton] Stunning Triton

 
All I got were Marina pics.

HJ

Tom O'Farrell wrote:
>
>
> Whether its worth the price aside, this is just a beautiful boat. 
> 
> www.regent-point.com <http://www.regent-point.com/>
> 
>
>
> 








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