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yama mo niwa mo ugokihairuru natsu zashiki

mountain and garden
also moving into
the airy guest room

Basho / Tr. Miyashita ¡õMichael D. Welch

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Interesting discussion in Japanese about the translation effort of this
haiku.


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Miyashita Emiko
http://www.haiku-hia.com/eisaku.html

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natsu zashiki ... is a kigo for summer of course.

With the blinds and seating mats, they would make you feel cool in summer,
without airconditioning.
http://worldkigo2005.blogspot.com/2006/07/blinds-bamboo-blind-sudare.html


GABI


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Sun Sep 2, 2007 4:09 am

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yama mo niwa mo ugokihairuru natsu zashiki mountain and garden also moving into the airy guest room Basho / Tr. Miyashita $B!u(BMichael D. Welch ...
Greve Gabi
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Sep 2, 2007
4:09 am

Gabi san, I think [summer] is necessary as kigo. It must be put in. So the third line is as follows, [summer guest room] sakuo. ... From:...
Sakuo Nakamura
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Sep 3, 2007
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