A Traditional religion AND pursue Initiation, or accept the metaphysical "unity of all religions"? The leaders of Traditional religions clearly tell us know. ...
In 1974 the Pope lifted the ban for American Freemasonry. It still applies to European masonry though. My Stepdad finnished Catholic siminary and is 33 degree...
Frater raises an interesting question.<br>We have to take into account various things:<br>-Exoterism, and specially Roman Catholicism, has frequently "banned"...
Yes Ainsaust. I agree with you completely. The exoteric parts of the movement often percieve the esoteric as a threat, and will of course feel the need to ...
Mansoor: sacredweb is an interesting web and its quality is remarkable. Unfortunately, there are not many quality webs which deal with Tradition. In...
93!<br><br>Here's a vital question: if the 'exoteric authorities' expel or destroy the 'esoteric' side of their tradition would that not then invalidate or ...
Ainsaust and Fuzzy:<br>While both of your eloquent replies contain much rational and theoretical truth, Julianus' comment has serious implications, to which I...
Your virus theory is the same as the one that Dr Rudolph uses. SOmetimes it is true, the problem is that other times it is the esoteric that came first and ...
Let me see if I understand your point here Frater by comparing it to early CHristianity. In the early church (when it was illigal) there were two functional ...
Your comparison to early Christianity has something in common with my post. But, I was more specically thinking in terms of the priest-king vs. priest debate...
AHH, ok I think I get ya now. I'm admitiedly not up to snuff on my Hindu termenology. When you say "Ksyatria" I think it is what I'm used to seeing spelled as ...
Ainsaust<br>While I whole heartedly agree with you this is what Schoun has to say bout the relationship of exoterism and esoterism<br>""(...) In Islam, two...
Some comments about this thread by one who practices esoteric spirituality, but is not a Traditionalist, nor believes in lines of initiation:<br><br>The ...
Frater: <br><br>I took the liberty to delete some of my links. Apparently Yahoo a maximum of 100 links, and I see I've gone a bit overboard as far as posting....
>>>>By the way, ancient gnosticism is also a heresy for the Eastern Orthodox, as it is for Roman Catholics. That's why they call themselves ...
93!<br><br>I think it may be well to investigate the works of Georges Dumezil on this issue, especially his book 'Mitra-Varuna.' He feels that the King and...
No doubt the subject is a complex one. Anyway, we should differentiate between a Function and an Initiatic Grade.<br>So, for instance, a mason(3rd estament) in...
A recurring theme of this dialogue is between what is esoteric and what is exoteric. All truth is one, and the determination is dependent upon the ability and...
Good point Aisaust. I think that this is one of the prime ideas of western esotericism. The internal castes of Hylic, Psychic, and Pneumatic, are the emphasis...
Esoteric and Exoteric<br>Thomas wrote All truth is one, and the determination is dependent upon the ability and the means available to the individual to...
Anyone interested can check out my site<br>Sarmatia against Teutonia.....<br><br>Yahoo Clubs[Sarmatia against Teutonia<br>I was not able to post the link,...
Some more leads on esoteric christianity:<br><br>Do a search for the Praxis Research Institute.<br><br>Also look for Esoterica: the Journal of Esoteric ...
Michael:<br><br>I've heard of Praxis. The inspiration behind Praxis is Boris Mouravieff (1890-1966), a friend of Gurdjieff's disciple P.D. Ouspensky. ...
Very good, Mansoor. Your words have been of great help to explain that Discontinuity of Initiation. Itīs a qualitative jump. Even the most pious Saint ...
My studies of Gurdjieff have sparked my interest in esoteric Christianity. I've been spending some time comparing the ideas and trying to extract the ...
I was at first aprehesive for joining this club with people with Id like "neo-templar" and "the third position" As you know the "neo-templars" were (are) not ...
Yes, there are similarities between Gurdjieff and Esoteric Christianity. I think the time you are spending comparing the ideas is worthwhile because with those...
Hi Antipagan:<br>I guess all of us here have our choice author...and some, none at all. Evola was, afterall though, the origination point of this club. But, ...
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