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#12608 From: "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse@...>
Date: Wed Jun 8, 2011 6:15 pm
Subject: RE: TEMP7-7 DIGI
Broncus
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It sounds like if TEMP is a default, then it will do this automatically
without setting up an alias. I think I saw 5 as the hop limit.

Best regards,
Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: tracker2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tracker2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Miller
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 14:10
To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tracker2] TEMP7-7 DIGI

I don't remember what the hoplimit is set to, but TEMP should be enabled on
the T2 by default.

Scott

#12609 From: "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse@...>
Date: Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:25 pm
Subject: RE: TEMP7-7 DIGI
Broncus
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Light up all the Kenwood's! What fun!
How to win friends in one easy step!

A unique alias is good!

If a Kenwood is in use, then the portable must be using TEMPn-N as the first
path or only path. I'll go back and re-read the Bob Docs again now that I
have a slightly better understanding.

Thanks James!

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH


   _____

From: tracker2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tracker2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Ewen
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 18:08
To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tracker2] TEMP7-7 DIGI




The Kenwoods and Kantronics units can not do preemptive digipeating.
You will have to be near your preemptive TEMPn-N digipeater for you to
get preemptive digipeats from your unit.

However, what will happen is main digipeaters and fill-in digipeaters
will grab your first hop request, and act upon it, then the main
digipeaters will act upon the WIDE2-1, and finally any Kenwood mobile
in range of those digipeaters, as well as any other digipeater
configured for TEMPn-N will act upon the TEMP1-1 on the end.

For your configuration, it would be better to use a unique alias for
preemption that won't trigger the regular TEMPn-N digipeaters as the
last hop.

#12610 From: "N5UDK" <tpurvis@...>
Date: Thu Jun 9, 2011 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: DR-135/T2-135 receive problem.
n5udk_tim
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OK, this is what we found.
Installed T2 into another new DR-135 and let run overnight and still won't
receive.
Configured a new T2 using the same .cfg file as before and installed into the
original DR-135 and immediately started recieving and gating traffic.

Looks like I have a bad T2 board.

Scott, what do I need to do to get it replaced?

Thanks,
Tim, N5UDK



--- In tracker2@yahoogroups.com, "N5UDK" <tpurvis@...> wrote:
>
> I'm having receive problem with a new Alinco DR-135 and new T2-135.  Radio is
in data mode, narrow mode and am using new cable and usb serial adapter from
Argent Data.  I'm not sure if I have a radio problem or TNC problem.  Can anyone
help me with this?
>
> According to an oscilloscope, the radio is receiving data but appears to be
distorted audio coming into the TNC.  Xastir will not receive APRS data over the
air via the TNC.  However, using the config software we are able to read the
data and then write the data.  Xastir can transmit and verified by another
station on site.
>
> The audio coming into Connector CN2 pin 3 is very distorted with what
> appears to be a combination of clipping and phase shift.
>
> Green LED on T2-135 only lights when writting data.  TX works OK.
>
> Tim, N5UDK
>

#12611 From: Scott Miller <scott@...>
Date: Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: Pin 7 Power on Radio Plug
n1vg
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You can just not hook up pin 7, and use the coaxial power plug or the
internal pads for the power connection.

Scott

On 6/8/2011 6:04 PM, Ray wrote:
> Hello All
>
> Just wondering if anyone can tell me if there is any way to bypass the
> power coming from the radio to pin 7 so that you can run external power
> so that a remote locations power can be monitored rather than the power
> from the radio
>
> Thanks for any advise in advance
>
> Ray (VK5RR)
>
>

#12612 From: Scott Miller <scott@...>
Date: Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:29 pm
Subject: Re: Re: DR-135/T2-135 receive problem.
n1vg
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Email me off-list with your order number and I'll get you an RMA.

Thanks,

Scott

On 6/9/2011 1:37 PM, N5UDK wrote:
> OK, this is what we found.
> Installed T2 into another new DR-135 and let run overnight and still
> won't receive.
> Configured a new T2 using the same .cfg file as before and installed
> into the original DR-135 and immediately started recieving and gating
> traffic.
>
> Looks like I have a bad T2 board.
>
> Scott, what do I need to do to get it replaced?
>
> Thanks,
> Tim, N5UDK
>
> --- In tracker2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tracker2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "N5UDK" <tpurvis@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > I'm having receive problem with a new Alinco DR-135 and new T2-135.
> Radio is in data mode, narrow mode and am using new cable and usb serial
> adapter from Argent Data. I'm not sure if I have a radio problem or TNC
> problem. Can anyone help me with this?
>  >
>  > According to an oscilloscope, the radio is receiving data but appears
> to be distorted audio coming into the TNC. Xastir will not receive APRS
> data over the air via the TNC. However, using the config software we are
> able to read the data and then write the data. Xastir can transmit and
> verified by another station on site.
>  >
>  > The audio coming into Connector CN2 pin 3 is very distorted with what
>  > appears to be a combination of clipping and phase shift.
>  >
>  > Green LED on T2-135 only lights when writting data. TX works OK.
>  >
>  > Tim, N5UDK
>  >
>
>

#12613 From: Scott Miller <scott@...>
Date: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:17 am
Subject: Re: Multiple DS18S20 Temperature Sensors
n1vg
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On 6/8/2011 9:07 AM, Bruce W. Martin wrote:
> I have a T2-301 and have a cable that includes a DS18S20 Temperature
> Sensor. Can I add a second DS18S20 Temperature Sensor so that during our
> balloon flights I can measure and have reported both the inside the
> package temperature and the outside temperature? If so, how would that
> show up in the APRS transmission?

Not yet, you can't.  I'm trying to talk Hessu into a new format for
variable-length telemetry on aprs.fi.  If he chooses to implement it,
I'll add support that way.

I'm working on a custom solution for one customer that needs over 200
DS18S20 sensors, so I'll certainly have the code written to handle the
polling.  Figuring out which sensor is which is still a pain, though.

Scott

#12614 From: Scott Miller <scott@...>
Date: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:24 am
Subject: Re: how to beacon one last time.
n1vg
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Maybe use scripting on the T2 to determine when it's done
(ignition-switched power is off, and last position has been sent) and
then use the PULSE command to switch off a dual-coil latched relay, that
would get switched back on by the ignition-switched circuit?

I'll probably have another solution by the end of the summer.  I'm
setting up radios in my travel trailer and want to add a very low-power
system for monitoring battery and solar charge state, plus inside and
outside temperature and humidity.  And of course position if it starts
moving.  I'll try to keep anything I come up with generic enough that it
can be rolled into the standard firmware, and maybe future hardware
revisions.

Not looking forward to installing the sensor in the black water tank,
though...

Scott

On 6/8/2011 10:49 AM, Wes Johnston, AI4PX wrote:
> I have an ATV that I only use on the weekends sometimes not for 2 or 3
> weeks at a time.  I'd like to put a tracker on it that has absolutely 0
> current draw when off.  Yes, I know I could program the T2 to not
> transmit if the voltage is below 13.0, but it still has to draw power to
> check the battery.  What I'd like to do is have it automatically come on
> and after the ATV is parked tx one last time and go to a zero power state.
> To this end, I've thought about a latched relay that gets interupted by
> the PTT, but it would just stay on until the moment PTT was asserted and
> turn off just as the packet started to tx.  Probably the best solution
> is to have a relay unlatch on the rising edge of PTT.
> I've also thought about putting the GPS on switched power (ignition
> switch) and the T2 tied to the battery and just telling it to not tx on
> no fix.... but would it TX that one last time?  I think not.
> An old school solution would be to have a clock mechanism wind a timer
> and the timer would switch off after a while.... like those single gang
> windup timers at lowes.
> At one time, I did use an RV break away emergency brake switch under a
> trailer attached to a stake in the yard, but that won't fill the bill
> this time round.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Wes
> ---
> The world needs more geniuses with humility because there are so few of
> us left.
>
>

#12615 From: "Wes Johnston, AI4PX" <johnstonwes@...>
Date: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:41 am
Subject: Re: how to beacon one last time.
ai4px
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FWIW, I once made a antenna "flipper" out of a DC antenna rotator.  I installed limit switches inside to allow it to rotate only 90 degrees and stop.  I wired the brake lights to a timer that drove the rotator down for 30 or 45 seconds.  The idea was that a 2m antenna was too tall to survive hitting a tree, so when you hooked a truck to the trailer, the first hit of the brake lights would auto lower the antenna.

Wes
---
The world needs more geniuses with humility because there are so few of us left.



On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 22:24, Scott Miller <scott@...> wrote:
Maybe use scripting on the T2 to determine when it's done
(ignition-switched power is off, and last position has been sent) and
then use the PULSE command to switch off a dual-coil latched relay, that
would get switched back on by the ignition-switched circuit?

I'll probably have another solution by the end of the summer.  I'm
setting up radios in my travel trailer and want to add a very low-power
system for monitoring battery and solar charge state, plus inside and
outside temperature and humidity.  And of course position if it starts
moving.  I'll try to keep anything I come up with generic enough that it
can be rolled into the standard firmware, and maybe future hardware
revisions.

Not looking forward to installing the sensor in the black water tank,
though...

Scott

On 6/8/2011 10:49 AM, Wes Johnston, AI4PX wrote:
> I have an ATV that I only use on the weekends sometimes not for 2 or 3
> weeks at a time.  I'd like to put a tracker on it that has absolutely 0
> current draw when off.  Yes, I know I could program the T2 to not
> transmit if the voltage is below 13.0, but it still has to draw power to
> check the battery.  What I'd like to do is have it automatically come on
> and after the ATV is parked tx one last time and go to a zero power state.
> To this end, I've thought about a latched relay that gets interupted by
> the PTT, but it would just stay on until the moment PTT was asserted and
> turn off just as the packet started to tx.  Probably the best solution
> is to have a relay unlatch on the rising edge of PTT.
> I've also thought about putting the GPS on switched power (ignition
> switch) and the T2 tied to the battery and just telling it to not tx on
> no fix.... but would it TX that one last time?  I think not.
> An old school solution would be to have a clock mechanism wind a timer
> and the timer would switch off after a while.... like those single gang
> windup timers at lowes.
> At one time, I did use an RV break away emergency brake switch under a
> trailer attached to a stake in the yard, but that won't fill the bill
> this time round.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Wes
> ---
> The world needs more geniuses with humility because there are so few of
> us left.
>
>



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#12616 From: ehsan rasouli <eh_rasooly@...>
Date: Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:51 am
Subject: C AVR code for FC301D
eh_rasooly
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Hi! I want to interface FC301D with AVR and control it for  receive and
transmit. pls help me.
thanks a  lot
Best Regards
Ehsan

#12617 From: "pb648174" <yahoo@...>
Date: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: C AVR code for FC301D
pb648174
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I did something similar using another microcontroller. I just used the command
port to communicate with it. So connect the command port to your computer and
experiment with the commands and it should be pretty clear how to proceed.
Incoming messages get printed out to the command port so you can read them and
you can use the BEACON, CONVERSE or messaging commands to send out data.

--- In tracker2@yahoogroups.com, ehsan rasouli <eh_rasooly@...> wrote:
>
> Hi! I want to interface FC301D with AVR and control it for  receive and
> transmit. pls help me.
> thanks a  lot
> Best Regards
> Ehsan
>

#12618 From: "pb648174" <yahoo@...>
Date: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: C AVR code for FC301D
pb648174
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Or, since you're going to be using C anyway, just get the source and work
directly on the unit. I had to make some changes to the firmware to get it to do
what I wanted (but still used the command port to control it) so if you go that
route I can give you some pointers there as well.

--- In tracker2@yahoogroups.com, "pb648174" <yahoo@...> wrote:
>
> I did something similar using another microcontroller. I just used the command
port to communicate with it. So connect the command port to your computer and
experiment with the commands and it should be pretty clear how to proceed.
Incoming messages get printed out to the command port so you can read them and
you can use the BEACON, CONVERSE or messaging commands to send out data.
>
> --- In tracker2@yahoogroups.com, ehsan rasouli <eh_rasooly@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi! I want to interface FC301D with AVR and control it for  receive and
> > transmit. pls help me.
> > thanks a  lot
> > Best Regards
> > Ehsan
> >
>

#12619 From: "tbanks204" <tbanks204@...>
Date: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:32 pm
Subject: Garmin Nuvi 350 Connecter
tbanks204
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Is the Garmin Nuvi 350 right angle connector, a special connector?   Is a cable
with just the connector available? The connector from my Nuvi 350 to my Kenwood
TM-710a is broken. Thanks KC0WNY

#12620 From: PAUL AMOS <amosph@...>
Date: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:00 pm
Subject: UI View help
gulfcoast_ra...
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Still unable to get UI View working here with my OT2m....If anyone can help assist me, I'd appreciate it. 
--
Paul Amos, KI4DMP
Wichita, KS


#12621 From: Scott Miller <scott@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:37 am
Subject: Re: Garmin Nuvi 350 Connecter
n1vg
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It's special in that it's an unusual angle and it needs all 5
conductors.  We've been out of them for months due to a problem with the
factory that custom makes them for us in Taiwan.  I found an alternate
source and that shipment is due in late this week.  It's slightly
different in that the cable exits down from the nuvi rather than to the
back, but I find I like it better that way.

Scott

On 6/12/2011 2:32 PM, tbanks204 wrote:
> Is the Garmin Nuvi 350 right angle connector, a special connector? Is a
> cable with just the connector available? The connector from my Nuvi 350
> to my Kenwood TM-710a is broken. Thanks KC0WNY
>
>

#12622 From: Teddy Banks <tbanks204@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:30 am
Subject: Re: Garmin Nuvi 350 Connecter
tbanks204
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so, I take it, I couldn't use the nuvi cable you have on your website
that has all the the wires connected that has the tinned ends, I thought
I might be able to just splice that cable in to the one I have. KC0WNY

On 6/12/2011 8:37 PM, Scott Miller wrote:
> It's special in that it's an unusual angle and it needs all 5
> conductors.  We've been out of them for months due to a problem with the
> factory that custom makes them for us in Taiwan.  I found an alternate
> source and that shipment is due in late this week.  It's slightly
> different in that the cable exits down from the nuvi rather than to the
> back, but I find I like it better that way.
>
> Scott
>
> On 6/12/2011 2:32 PM, tbanks204 wrote:
>> Is the Garmin Nuvi 350 right angle connector, a special connector? Is a
>> cable with just the connector available? The connector from my Nuvi 350
>> to my Kenwood TM-710a is broken. Thanks KC0WNY
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
KC0WNY - Ted

#12623 From: Scott Miller <scott@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:49 am
Subject: Re: Garmin Nuvi 350 Connecter
n1vg
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You CAN use part of the 010-10813-00 cable, but you have to chop it off
before the level shifter, and then you're left with a cable about 6"
long.  If you can wait a week, we'll have spare parts available then,
assuming nothing further goes wrong with this part.

Scott

On 6/12/2011 7:30 PM, Teddy Banks wrote:
> so, I take it, I couldn't use the nuvi cable you have on your website
> that has all the the wires connected that has the tinned ends, I thought
> I might be able to just splice that cable in to the one I have. KC0WNY
>
> On 6/12/2011 8:37 PM, Scott Miller wrote:
>>  It's special in that it's an unusual angle and it needs all 5
>>  conductors.  We've been out of them for months due to a problem with the
>>  factory that custom makes them for us in Taiwan.  I found an alternate
>>  source and that shipment is due in late this week.  It's slightly
>>  different in that the cable exits down from the nuvi rather than to the
>>  back, but I find I like it better that way.
>>
>>  Scott
>>
>>  On 6/12/2011 2:32 PM, tbanks204 wrote:
>>>  Is the Garmin Nuvi 350 right angle connector, a special connector? Is a
>>>  cable with just the connector available? The connector from my Nuvi 350
>>>  to my Kenwood TM-710a is broken. Thanks KC0WNY
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------------
>>
>>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

#12624 From: Teddy Banks <tbanks204@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:33 am
Subject: Re: Garmin Nuvi 350 Connecter
tbanks204
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I am just trying to figure out a way to repair my GTRANS Garmin to NMEA
Translator Cable (Kenwood Style) Cable, I have ordered a new one, but it
seems like such a waste to not be able to fix the one I Have, just
because the Garmin 90 degree connector broke. KC0WNY
On 6/12/2011 10:49 PM, Scott Miller wrote:
> You CAN use part of the 010-10813-00 cable, but you have to chop it off
> before the level shifter, and then you're left with a cable about 6"
> long.  If you can wait a week, we'll have spare parts available then,
> assuming nothing further goes wrong with this part.
>
> Scott
>
> On 6/12/2011 7:30 PM, Teddy Banks wrote:
>> so, I take it, I couldn't use the nuvi cable you have on your website
>> that has all the the wires connected that has the tinned ends, I thought
>> I might be able to just splice that cable in to the one I have. KC0WNY
>>
>> On 6/12/2011 8:37 PM, Scott Miller wrote:
>>>   It's special in that it's an unusual angle and it needs all 5
>>>   conductors.  We've been out of them for months due to a problem with the
>>>   factory that custom makes them for us in Taiwan.  I found an alternate
>>>   source and that shipment is due in late this week.  It's slightly
>>>   different in that the cable exits down from the nuvi rather than to the
>>>   back, but I find I like it better that way.
>>>
>>>   Scott
>>>
>>>   On 6/12/2011 2:32 PM, tbanks204 wrote:
>>>>   Is the Garmin Nuvi 350 right angle connector, a special connector? Is a
>>>>   cable with just the connector available? The connector from my Nuvi 350
>>>>   to my Kenwood TM-710a is broken. Thanks KC0WNY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>   ------------------------------------
>>>
>>>   Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
KC0WNY - Ted

#12625 From: "Keith VE7GDH" <ve7gdh@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:19 am
Subject: Re: UI View help
ve7gdh
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Paul KI4DMP wrote...

> Still unable to get UI-View working here with my OT2m...

4800 N 8 1 - KISS - whatever COM port you are using.

There are a few variations that will work. The INTerval zero is
to stop it from beaconing, SMARTbcon turns SmartBeaconing OFF,
and WAYpoints OFF stops it from trying to upload waypoints to a
non-existent GPS. If you already have the OT2m set that way, you
could skip those commands.

into KISS...

003,003,003
INT 0^MSMART OFF^MWAY OFF^M
AMODE KISS
RESTART

exit KISS...

192,255,192

73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
--
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

#12626 From: ehsan rasouli <eh_rasooly@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:55 am
Subject: Re: Re: C AVR code for FC301D
eh_rasooly
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Thanks a lot for your attention pb648174.
I want to transfer data between two microcontroller(AVR) using FC301D, and if I
want to transfer audio what I had to do!? schematic and source C code...
Best Regards...
Ehsan





________________________________
From: pb648174 <yahoo@...>
To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 6:38:55 AM
Subject: [tracker2] Re: C AVR code for FC301D


Or, since you're going to be using C anyway, just get the source and work
directly on the unit. I had to make some changes to the firmware to get it to do
what I wanted (but still used the command port to control it) so if you go that
route I can give you some pointers there as well.

#12627 From: "Bill Black" <black@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:14 am
Subject: Re: how to beacon one last time.
sandhillbill_b
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Hi Wes
 
2 parts to this...
 
1 Have the T2 transmit the last time beacon when the ignition goes off as in profile switch on jumper with tx on profile selected checked. Relay driven from the ignition line, contacts between profile select input and gnd. You need this as the profile select is at 5 volts logic level. This will beacon as soon as the ignition switches off
 
2 Power the radio, T2, etc through a relay getting power direct from the battery. Relay is driven from the ignition line through a diode and low ohms resistor with a large capacitor across the relay coil. resistor is to reduce in-rush current when capacitor is charging up. Capacitor should be large enough to hold the relay on for 1-2 seconds, enough to send the last beacon.
 
A bit of refinement would be to use a small 5 volt high coil resistance relay to drive the larger 12 volt power switching relay. Still have the ign line go through a diode but to a higher ohms resistor (1.2 - 1.4 x the relay coil resistance). Then 4.7 volt zener diode and capacitor across the relay coil. This will delay turn on while starting as well as delayed turn off also minimise arching on the power contacts as the capacitor will have the relay contacts operating slowly.
 
Hope this helps
 
 
Bill

#12628 From: "pb648174" <yahoo@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: C AVR code for FC301D
pb648174
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What are you trying to accomplish? Do you have two FC301Ds? Are you using the
tracker or working directly with the radio?

The C source for the code Scott uses to interact with the radio is here:
https://svn.freepository.com/50lItuLQ7fW6s-web/browser/Tracker2/trunk/sources/

--- In tracker2@yahoogroups.com, ehsan rasouli <eh_rasooly@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot for your attention pb648174.
> I want to transfer data between two microcontroller(AVR) using FC301D, and if
I
> want to transfer audio what I had to do!? schematic and source C code...
> Best Regards...
> Ehsan
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: pb648174 <yahoo@...>
> To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 6:38:55 AM
> Subject: [tracker2] Re: C AVR code for FC301D
>
>
> Or, since you're going to be using C anyway, just get the source and work
> directly on the unit. I had to make some changes to the firmware to get it to
do
> what I wanted (but still used the command port to control it) so if you go
that
> route I can give you some pointers there as well.
>

#12629 From: ehsan rasouli <eh_rasooly@...>
Date: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:01 am
Subject: Re: Re: C AVR code for FC301D
eh_rasooly
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I have a main base station and some stations. at each of stations I have one
ucontroller + one FC301D.  I want to have a wireless communication between base
station and stations using FC301D!
Best Regards





________________________________
From: pb648174 <yahoo@...>
To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 5:55:32 AM
Subject: [tracker2] Re: C AVR code for FC301D


What are you trying to accomplish? Do you have two FC301Ds? Are you using the
tracker or working directly with the radio?


The C source for the code Scott uses to interact with the radio is here:
https://svn.freepository.com/50lItuLQ7fW6s-web/browser/Tracker2/trunk/sources/

#12630 From: "pb648174" <yahoo@...>
Date: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: C AVR code for FC301D
pb648174
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Ok, so look at the source code I posted earlier, that is how Scott does it for
the tracker product he sells and so graciously makes the source available for
it. That is pretty difficult though. Alternatively you can buy the tracker board
that Scott sells and just plug it into the radio and then communicate through it
using the command port.

--- In tracker2@yahoogroups.com, ehsan rasouli <eh_rasooly@...> wrote:
>
> I have a main base station and some stations. at each of stations I have one
> ucontroller + one FC301D.  I want to have a wireless communication between
base
> station and stations using FC301D!
> Best Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: pb648174 <yahoo@...>
> To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 5:55:32 AM
> Subject: [tracker2] Re: C AVR code for FC301D
>
>
> What are you trying to accomplish? Do you have two FC301Ds? Are you using the
> tracker or working directly with the radio?
>
>
> The C source for the code Scott uses to interact with the radio is here:
> https://svn.freepository.com/50lItuLQ7fW6s-web/browser/Tracker2/trunk/sources/
>

#12631 From: "ac2ev" <ac2ev@...>
Date: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: how to beacon one last time.
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What about a "Super capacitor" or small secondary power source that can survive
a full discharge? You would want to size it so that it could power the radio for
a short time before it is discharged. Then when the ATV is started back up it
would charge again.

8< snip
--- In tracker2@yahoogroups.com, "Wes Johnston, AI4PX" <johnstonwes@...> wrote:
>
> I have an ATV that I only use on the weekends sometimes not for 2 or 3 weeks
> at a time.  I'd like to put a tracker on it that has absolutely 0 current
> draw when off.  Yes, I know I could program the T2 to not transmit if the
> voltage is below 13.0, but it still has to draw power to check the battery.
> What I'd like to do is have it automatically come on and after the ATV is
> parked tx one last time and go to a zero power state.
>
> To this end, I've thought about a latched relay that gets interupted by the
> PTT, but it would just stay on until the moment PTT was asserted and turn
> off just as the packet started to tx.  Probably the best solution is to have
> a relay unlatch on the rising edge of PTT.
>
> I've also thought about putting the GPS on switched power (ignition switch)
> and the T2 tied to the battery and just telling it to not tx on no fix....

#12632 From: "Wes Johnston, AI4PX" <johnstonwes@...>
Date: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:08 pm
Subject: Re: Re: how to beacon one last time.
ai4px
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I had drawn up a circuit that used two 555 timers, 1 fires 5 minutes after shutdown, the other fires one second after that to break a latched relay.  It just got to a point where the parts count and complexity was/is just too high.  It could easily be done with a small pic processor clocked at 32khz or so....  I do like the idea of a relay staying on until PTT gets asserted one last time.

but, since the ATV is confined to the area right around my house, I decided it would just be easier to set it at a fixed beacon rate of once a minute and a minimal path and the timer can then be a RC network on the base of a darlington pair that drives the relay.  Moderately sized eletrolytics can hold that up for 3 or 4 minutes before releasing the relay. 
Wes
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 18:16, ac2ev <ac2ev@...> wrote:
What about a "Super capacitor" or small secondary power source that can survive a full discharge? You would want to size it so that it could power the radio for a short time before it is discharged. Then when the ATV is started back up it would charge again.

8< snip
--- In tracker2@yahoogroups.com, "Wes Johnston, AI4PX" <johnstonwes@...> wrote:
>
> I have an ATV that I only use on the weekends sometimes not for 2 or 3 weeks
> at a time.  I'd like to put a tracker on it that has absolutely 0 current
> draw when off.  Yes, I know I could program the T2 to not transmit if the
> voltage is below 13.0, but it still has to draw power to check the battery.
> What I'd like to do is have it automatically come on and after the ATV is
> parked tx one last time and go to a zero power state.
>
> To this end, I've thought about a latched relay that gets interupted by the
> PTT, but it would just stay on until the moment PTT was asserted and turn
> off just as the packet started to tx.  Probably the best solution is to have
> a relay unlatch on the rising edge of PTT.
>
> I've also thought about putting the GPS on switched power (ignition switch)
> and the T2 tied to the battery and just telling it to not tx on no fix....



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#12633 From: VE3ID <ve3id@...>
Date: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:21 pm
Subject: Re: Re: how to beacon one last time.
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Occam's razor applies.  Use the simplest solution.

As a young engineer, my chief engineer asked me to design a system to give a secondary request-to-send pulse for 300 mS over a com line to trigger a cash register tape to rewind and send its data.

I used a crystal oscillator, and a count-down set of flip-flops, to arrive at the 300 mS, Heath Robinson (Rube Goldberg for you Americans) would have been proud of my effort.  I proudly showed it to the chief engineer and he laughed, replacing it with a simple RC network.

Nowadays we have supercaps, I would go with the idea of using one to keep the radio and tracker up for one last beacon.

73
Nigel
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On 15/06/11 19:08, Wes Johnston, AI4PX wrote:
 

I had drawn up a circuit that used two 555 timers, 1 fires 5 minutes after shutdown, the other fires one second after that to break a latched relay.  It just got to a point where the parts count and complexity was/is just too high.  It could easily be done with a small pic processor clocked at 32khz or so....  I do like the idea of a relay staying on until PTT gets asserted one last time.

but, since the ATV is confined to the area right around my house, I decided it would just be easier to set it at a fixed beacon rate of once a minute and a minimal path and the timer can then be a RC network on the base of a darlington pair that drives the relay.  Moderately sized eletrolytics can hold that up for 3 or 4 minutes before releasing the relay. 
Wes

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On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 18:16, ac2ev <ac2ev@...> wrote:
What about a "Super capacitor" or small secondary power source that can survive a full discharge? You would want to size it so that it could power the radio for a short time before it is discharged. Then when the ATV is started back up it would charge again.

8< snip
--- In tracker2@yahoogroups.com, "Wes Johnston, AI4PX" <johnstonwes@...> wrote:
>
> I have an ATV that I only use on the weekends sometimes not for 2 or 3 weeks
> at a time.  I'd like to put a tracker on it that has absolutely 0 current
> draw when off.  Yes, I know I could program the T2 to not transmit if the
> voltage is below 13.0, but it still has to draw power to check the battery.
> What I'd like to do is have it automatically come on and after the ATV is
> parked tx one last time and go to a zero power state.
>
> To this end, I've thought about a latched relay that gets interupted by the
> PTT, but it would just stay on until the moment PTT was asserted and turn
> off just as the packet started to tx.  Probably the best solution is to have
> a relay unlatch on the rising edge of PTT.
>
> I've also thought about putting the GPS on switched power (ignition switch)
> and the T2 tied to the battery and just telling it to not tx on no fix....



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#12634 From: ehsan rasouli <eh_rasooly@...>
Date: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:55 am
Subject: Re: Re: C AVR code for FC301D
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Dear pb648174,Sorry for the late reply. It solved. Thank you very much.
Best Regards....




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From: pb648174 <yahoo@...>
To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 5:30:24 AM
Subject: [tracker2] Re: C AVR code for FC301D


Ok, so look at the source code I posted earlier, that is how Scott does it for
the tracker product he sells and so graciously makes the source available for
it. That is pretty difficult though. Alternatively you can buy the tracker board
that Scott sells and just plug it into the radio and then communicate through it
using the command port.

#12635 From: "k3bmk" <k3bmk@...>
Date: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:49 am
Subject: Tracker 2 Question
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I am new to APRS and I am interested in the tracker 2, however, before I
purchase, I want to confirm that the device will be able to meet my needs.


Primarily, I am looking at the Tracker 2 to use for capturing location data for
events such as bike races. I will not have internet access, so I need to be able
to capture the data via RF and feed it to my computer program for plotting. I
have read the online user guide and I believe that the device is capable of
this. Can anyone confirm this for me? As I said I have never dabbled into APRS
before.

Thanks!

#12636 From: "pb648174" <yahoo@...>
Date: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:10 pm
Subject: Re: Tracker 2 Question
pb648174
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Are you just wanting to track your position and show it later on the computer or
do you want to use it to show your position in real time? You could use it for
either assuming you have an aprs tower nearby or you don't mind setting up a
receive station nearby. Using a cellphone may be lighter and easier depending on
what you are trying to do.

--- In tracker2@yahoogroups.com, "k3bmk" <k3bmk@...> wrote:
>
> I am new to APRS and I am interested in the tracker 2, however, before I
purchase, I want to confirm that the device will be able to meet my needs.
>
>
> Primarily, I am looking at the Tracker 2 to use for capturing location data
for events such as bike races. I will not have internet access, so I need to be
able to capture the data via RF and feed it to my computer program for plotting.
I have read the online user guide and I believe that the device is capable of
this. Can anyone confirm this for me? As I said I have never dabbled into APRS
before.
>
> Thanks!
>

#12637 From: James Ewen <ve6srv@...>
Date: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:57 pm
Subject: Re: Tracker 2 Question
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On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:49 PM, k3bmk <k3bmk@...> wrote:

> Primarily, I am looking at the Tracker 2 to use for capturing location data
> for events such as bike races.

How much data do you want to collect? ie. how high is the resolution
of the data, and how many units are you trying to track? If you are
wanting to get a position every 2 feet for 100 bikes, APRS is not the
application.

> I will not have internet access, so I need to be able to capture the data
> via RF and feed it to my computer program for plotting.

Well, that's a good thing for APRS and the OT2, as you can't capture
data directly to the internet with an OT2. There are applications that
can run on phones that could send information directly to the
internet.

> I have read the online user guide and I believe that the device is capable
> of this. Can anyone confirm this for me? As I said I have never dabbled
> into APRS before.

Well, if you're read any of the information on APRS, you will know
that it can take live GPS data, encode it, and send it over the
airwaves. It can also be used to receive and decode that same
information. So, yes APRS and the OT2 will do the above.

The issue is whether it will fulfill your needs, which you have yet to
define enough for us to give you a useful answer. More info, more
answers...

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