TNC-X users of BPQ32 are advised that the a new release is now available for
download at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BPQMailChat/ and
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BPQ32/

It includes BPQMailChat v1.0.3.21 Beta, the installation of which is optional.

The changelog is here:

http://www.cantab.net/users/john.wiseman/Documents/BPQ32%20Installation.htm#Chan\
gelog

Thanks to John Wiseman G8BPQ/GM8BPQ for his tireless pursuit of a better BPQ!

73 de Ron Stordahl, N5IN

I have been playing around with WinTNC for a few weeks and registered it. It
turns the TNC-X into a pretty powerful, full-funtioning TNC with mail and
network node capability. Really nice program. In this day and age with low cost
KISS TNC's available, programs like WinTNC are a must.

Duffy
www.wb8nut.com

--- In tnc-x@yahoogroups.com, John Hansen <john@...> wrote:
>
> Another possibility is WinTNC.  It does not require AGWPE
>
> John W2FS
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Daniel <n9bav@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > AGWPE Packet Engine http://www.sv2agw.com/ham/agwpe.htm
> > WINPack http://www.gb7fcr.plus.com/
> >
> > Great stuff works great. N9BAV
> >
> >
> > --- In tnc-x@yahoogroups.com <tnc-x%40yahoogroups.com>, Brian Wingfield
> > <wingfba@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have been happily using my TNC-X for APRS for some time now. Now I
> > > want to use it for some old fashioned "packet radio" where I connect
> > > to someone's mailbox. Since it is a KISS only device, I obviously
> > > can't just use terminal software. I've looked around and found some
> > > ancient tnc software for use with a baypac, but I wonder what else is
> > > being used.
> > >
> > > So my question to the group is: Does anyone use the TNC-X for "plane
> > > old packet"? If so, what software do you use to complete the TNC
> > > functionality to handle "connected" AX.25 comms?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Brian/KO4FV
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

AGWPE Packet Engine http://www.sv2agw.com/ham/agwpe.htm
WINPack http://www.gb7fcr.plus.com/

Great stuff works great.  N9BAV

--- In tnc-x@yahoogroups.com, Brian Wingfield <wingfba@...> wrote:
>
> I have been happily using my TNC-X for APRS for some time now.  Now I
> want to use it for some old fashioned "packet radio" where I connect
> to someone's mailbox.  Since it is a KISS only device, I obviously
> can't just use terminal software.  I've looked around and found some
> ancient tnc software for use with a baypac, but I wonder what else is
> being used.
>
> So my question to the group is:  Does anyone use the TNC-X for "plane
> old packet"?  If so, what software do you use to complete the TNC
> functionality to handle "connected" AX.25 comms?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian/KO4FV
>

A while back, I needed a quick and dirty connected packet setup for testing. 
AGWPE was a great way to make that work.  Basiclly, instead of the TNC managing
the connection, the software does it for you.  The TNC-X is simply the data haul
part of the equation.

Jason KE4NYV
RPC Electronics, LLC
www.rpc-electronics.com

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Allan Richardson <allan@...> wrote:

From: Allan Richardson <allan@...>
Subject: Re: [tnc-x] kiss tnc software
To: tnc-x@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 12:27 PM







 












AGWPE ( agw packet engine) = FREE
WIN PAC AGW (bbs user software) = FREE
the winpack software make your tncx look like any
othe tnc on the rx'ing end
have fun
de KB1NRB

   ----- Original Message -----
   From:
   Brian Wingfield

   To: tnc-x@yahoogroups. com
   Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009
   12:19
   Subject: [tnc-x] kiss tnc software

 

   I have been happily using my TNC-X for APRS for some time now. Now
   I
want to use it for some old fashioned "packet radio" where I
   connect
to someone's mailbox. Since it is a KISS only device, I
   obviously
can't just use terminal software. I've looked around and found
   some
ancient tnc software for use with a baypac, but I wonder what else
   is
being used.

So my question to the group is: Does anyone use the
   TNC-X for "plane
old packet"? If so, what software do you use to complete
   the TNC
functionality to handle "connected" AX.25
   comms?

Thanks,
Brian/KO4FV

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Wingfield

To: tnc-x@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 12:19

Subject: [tnc-x] kiss tnc software

 

I have been happily using my TNC-X for APRS for some time now. Now I
want to use it for some old fashioned "packet radio" where I connect
to someone's mailbox. Since it is a KISS only device, I obviously
can't just use terminal software. I've looked around and found some
ancient tnc software for use with a baypac, but I wonder what else is
being used.

So my question to the group is: Does anyone use the TNC-X for "plane
old packet"? If so, what software do you use to complete the TNC
functionality to handle "connected" AX.25 comms?

Thanks,
Brian/KO4FV

I have been happily using my TNC-X for APRS for some time now.  Now I
want to use it for some old fashioned "packet radio" where I connect
to someone's mailbox.  Since it is a KISS only device, I obviously
can't just use terminal software.  I've looked around and found some
ancient tnc software for use with a baypac, but I wonder what else is
being used.

So my question to the group is:  Does anyone use the TNC-X for "plane
old packet"?  If so, what software do you use to complete the TNC
functionality to handle "connected" AX.25 comms?

Thanks,
Brian/KO4FV

Thanks for your input, Rob.
This information is exactly what I am looking for, so it's not off-
topic at all.  My 1988 Heathkit HK-232 TNC is finally failing, so
I need something simple and home-made to replace it.  TNC-X may be
just the right thing, since I run XASTIR on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (on my
web server)

Thanks again.
Peter
>
> I apologize if this thread seems off-topic or hopelessly esoteric. It is a
legitimate bug in the latest version of a popular OS, so it is probably
affecting a few penguin-heads besides just myself...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rob KI4MCW
>

Ah, found it. Ubuntu bug 460857 describes a problem with the ftdi_sio driver in
the current version of the kernel. The fix is already in the stable version of
the standard Linux kernel, but has not found its way through testing yet in the
Ubuntu world.

I apologize if this thread seems off-topic or hopelessly esoteric. It is a
legitimate bug in the latest version of a popular OS, so it is probably
affecting a few penguin-heads besides just myself...

Cheers,

Rob KI4MCW

I am trying to help someone set up a TNC-X with the digi board installed. Rather
than trying to re invent the wheel so to speak I need the parameters for a digi.
Specifically configuration menu B 5 THROUGH 8 for a 10 minute interval between
beacons. Each beacon will be the same. Our confusion is with the offset values.

Wayne, WA5LUY

I upgraded to the "Karmic Koala" version of Ubuntu a few days ago, and since
then have not been able to get Xastir to process any =incoming= packets from my
TNC-X over USB. Out of curiosity, has anyone else had trouble with the TNC-X on
Karmic?

Various combinations and results:

TNC-X + FTDI USB + Xastir (tx) = fine
TNC-X + FTDI USB + minicom (rx) = fine
TNC-X + FTDI USB + Perl (rx) = fine
TNC-X + Serial + Xastir (rx/tx) = fine
TNC-X + Serial + RS232-to-USB adaptor + Xastir (rx/tx) = fine

The Perl and minicom tests confirm that the kernel driver is not broken (at
least, not completely), and neither is the data flow through the FTDI chip to
USB to the serial device in Linux. I am configuring both the USB/serial
interface from the FTDI (and the other adaptor) and the serial interface through
the ST232A as "Serial KISS TNC" devices in Xastir, so all of the port
initialization code is the same in all cases. I tried using the Xastir package
from Canonical (1.9.4), and also got the same results after compiling Xastir
from source (1.9.6). I'm down to the OS and/or driver as the most likely
suspects.

If you're having the same problem (or similar), I'd love to know. Re-installing
9.04 is not out of the question, but sure would be a (nother) headache.

Rob Marshall KI4MCW

That would be great, Jean-Marie.  WA6PXX at Winlink dot org, svp.

--- In tnc-x@yahoogroups.com, "ve2aey" <houle_jean_marie@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In tnc-x@yahoogroups.com, "David" <wa6pxx@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have a Winlink RMS station with a bunch of TNC and radios on my Windows XP
professional OS.  I think most of the TNC's use the FTDI chip:
> >
> > microUSB
> > TNC7 multi
> > TNC-X, with device ID = 0xEBE0
> >
> > Now I want to add a second TNC-X, recently purchased, with device ID =
0x6001, and a second TNC7 multi.
> >
> > And finally, I have 3rd TNC-X, with device ID = 0xF448, which I use for
mobile apps but I'd like to be able to swap it in/out for the other TNC-X's.
> >
> > Is there an easy way to configure the drivers so that I can install them
easily, then plug and unplug them as needed without head scratching?  Possible
strategies:
> >
> > (a) edit FTDIBUS.INF & FTDIPORT.INF to include all possible combinations,
and use these files on all installations.
> >
> > (b) create separate subfolders for each of the TNC-X's etc, and point to
those subfolders for each installation.
> >
> > (c) none of the above!
> >
> > Advice, please!  /David WA6PXX Mercer Island, WA
> >
>
>
> I did edit the .INF files.
>
> The only problem is Windows complains about the drivers not being certified. I
just clink install anyway.
>
> I could send you my files...
>
> Jean-Marie VE2AEY
>

--- In tnc-x@yahoogroups.com, "David" <wa6pxx@...> wrote:
>
>
> I have a Winlink RMS station with a bunch of TNC and radios on my Windows XP
professional OS.  I think most of the TNC's use the FTDI chip:
>
> microUSB
> TNC7 multi
> TNC-X, with device ID = 0xEBE0
>
> Now I want to add a second TNC-X, recently purchased, with device ID = 0x6001,
and a second TNC7 multi.
>
> And finally, I have 3rd TNC-X, with device ID = 0xF448, which I use for mobile
apps but I'd like to be able to swap it in/out for the other TNC-X's.
>
> Is there an easy way to configure the drivers so that I can install them
easily, then plug and unplug them as needed without head scratching?  Possible
strategies:
>
> (a) edit FTDIBUS.INF & FTDIPORT.INF to include all possible combinations, and
use these files on all installations.
>
> (b) create separate subfolders for each of the TNC-X's etc, and point to those
subfolders for each installation.
>
> (c) none of the above!
>
> Advice, please!  /David WA6PXX Mercer Island, WA
>


I did edit the .INF files.

The only problem is Windows complains about the drivers not being certified. I
just clink install anyway.

I could send you my files...

Jean-Marie VE2AEY

I have a Winlink RMS station with a bunch of TNC and radios on my Windows XP
professional OS.  I think most of the TNC's use the FTDI chip:

microUSB
TNC7 multi
TNC-X, with device ID = 0xEBE0

Now I want to add a second TNC-X, recently purchased, with device ID = 0x6001,
and a second TNC7 multi.

And finally, I have 3rd TNC-X, with device ID = 0xF448, which I use for mobile
apps but I'd like to be able to swap it in/out for the other TNC-X's.

Is there an easy way to configure the drivers so that I can install them easily,
then plug and unplug them as needed without head scratching?  Possible
strategies:

(a) edit FTDIBUS.INF & FTDIPORT.INF to include all possible combinations, and
use these files on all installations.

(b) create separate subfolders for each of the TNC-X's etc, and point to those
subfolders for each installation.

(c) none of the above!

Advice, please!  /David WA6PXX Mercer Island, WA

 

Well, that isn't o it.  Will check further later tonight or tomorrow.

Noel



John Hansen wrote:

 

Great!

Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

John Hansen W2FS
Coastal ChipWorks

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Noel Seeley <noeleo@suddenlink.net> wrote:

 

Thanks, John for the quick reply.  Within about 30 seconds of clicking to post my message, I found the problem.  I put the coordinates in the wrong syntax.  I use standard XX.XXXX instead of XXXX.XX.  The owner is going there to bring it back as I write this, so I can fix it tonight. 

Thanks again,

Noel Seeley
K5NES

John Hansen wrote:

 

Hi Noel:

The secret to getting it to show up on a map is to encode one of the beacons with your position information and have it transmit it periodically (but not too often because it isn't going to move!).  I think you would do better to get the exact syntax for the beacon that does this from someone on the X-Digi group, because I don't actually operate a Digi myself.  I'm pretty sure I know how to do it, but I'd hate to give you bad information.  A digi owner would know for sure.  If you aren't familiar with the X-Digi group its at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XDigi/

John Hansen W2FS
Coastal ChipWorks

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:30 PM, im2old2b1 <noeleo@suddenlink.net> wrote:

 

I recently built a digi from kit and installed it in a TNC-X that I have had for a while. Everything seems to work except for the digi showing up an a UI-32 map. If you go into terminal mode, you can see it in the paths, but now on the map. Any suggestions? Let me know if you need further information.

Thanks
Noel
K5NES

 

Great!

Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

John Hansen W2FS
Coastal ChipWorks

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Noel Seeley <noeleo@suddenlink.net> wrote:

 

Thanks, John for the quick reply.  Within about 30 seconds of clicking to post my message, I found the problem.  I put the coordinates in the wrong syntax.  I use standard XX.XXXX instead of XXXX.XX.  The owner is going there to bring it back as I write this, so I can fix it tonight. 

Thanks again,

Noel Seeley
K5NES

John Hansen wrote:

 

Hi Noel:

The secret to getting it to show up on a map is to encode one of the beacons with your position information and have it transmit it periodically (but not too often because it isn't going to move!).  I think you would do better to get the exact syntax for the beacon that does this from someone on the X-Digi group, because I don't actually operate a Digi myself.  I'm pretty sure I know how to do it, but I'd hate to give you bad information.  A digi owner would know for sure.  If you aren't familiar with the X-Digi group its at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XDigi/

John Hansen W2FS
Coastal ChipWorks

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:30 PM, im2old2b1 <noeleo@suddenlink.net> wrote:

 

I recently built a digi from kit and installed it in a TNC-X that I have had for a while. Everything seems to work except for the digi showing up an a UI-32 map. If you go into terminal mode, you can see it in the paths, but now on the map. Any suggestions? Let me know if you need further information.

Thanks
Noel
K5NES

 

Hi Noel:

The secret to getting it to show up on a map is to encode one of the beacons with your position information and have it transmit it periodically (but not too often because it isn't going to move!).  I think you would do better to get the exact syntax for the beacon that does this from someone on the X-Digi group, because I don't actually operate a Digi myself.  I'm pretty sure I know how to do it, but I'd hate to give you bad information.  A digi owner would know for sure.  If you aren't familiar with the X-Digi group its at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XDigi/

John Hansen W2FS
Coastal ChipWorks

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:30 PM, im2old2b1 <noeleo@suddenlink.net> wrote:

 

I recently built a digi from kit and installed it in a TNC-X that I have had for a while. Everything seems to work except for the digi showing up an a UI-32 map. If you go into terminal mode, you can see it in the paths, but now on the map. Any suggestions? Let me know if you need further information.

Thanks
Noel
K5NES

I recently built a digi from kit and installed it in a TNC-X that I have had for
a while.  Everything seems to work except for the digi showing up an a UI-32
map.  If you go into terminal mode, you can see it in the paths, but now on the
map.  Any suggestions?  Let me know if you need further information.

Thanks
Noel
K5NES

Bill KC9OUA wrote...

> I'm having trouble getting packets out on TNC-X. It receives packets
> ok but won't transmit unless I use the tnc test program. Then it sends
> a 2 tone packet. I checked with the UI-View group and everything
> seems to be set correctly. Any suggestions would be a help in lifting
> my fog.

> I have a USB cable from the tnc to an Acer netbook computer. I also
> have cables from the tnc to the data port on a Yaesu FT7800R.

OK, so the from the TNC-X to the radio must be OK, and the com
port settings must be correct at least when you send the test tones.
What com port is the virtual serial port on? Do you have the same
com port settings entered in UI-View? Also, do you have it set for
port 1 (one) in the UI-View station setup?

73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
--
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

I have found the same low-output issue with my FT-897D, especially with HF
soundcard modes. I ended up installing a toggle switch to allow me to bypass the
voltage divider in my soundcard interface. It's also easier to overcome the low
output from the 897 by cranking up the input gain on my PC. This means I pick up
hum from every appliance in the house, but such is life.

Re: TNC-X vs. ISS... I sometimes connect a dual-band mag mount in my attic to a
crappy old RS handheld scanner, and run the audio from the scanner to my TNC-X.
This arrangement has captured =tons= of APRS from the ISS - much, much more than
I had expected, especially since the audio from the scanner sounds very
compressed (hyper-active AGC, maybe).

I don't have a KPC-3 to compare to, but once the audio levels are in the
ballpark (which really can be a challenge), the decode performance of my TNC-X
compares favorably to my TM-D700 and OpenTracker 1+. YMMV, of course.

Rob KI4MCW

Final post on this issue. The problem is not the TNC-X at all. The problem is
with the fixed output of the FT-897's data port. Frankly it is too low, but
there is no way to adjust it according to Yaesu. Because of the varying
deviation of the FM signals from other packet stations, some packets can be
decoded and others cannot...when using the data port of the FT-897.

However, when feeding the TNC-X from the external speaker port of the FT-897,
and increasing the audio level, the TNC-X was then actually performing slightly
better than the KPC3+...really close at this point so it's not worth worrying
about either way.

The TNC-X is now working very well with local packet as well as the ISS
Digipeater.

John sent me a suggestion on modifying the TNC-X to allow more audio to the
unit. I decided against doing that since I may want to move it to a different
radio and back again...for things like Field Day, Boy Scout demos, etc.

In any case, thanks to all (sans one) for the suggestions and help.

Best Regards,

Duffy
www.wb8nut.com

--- In tnc-x@yahoogroups.com, "Beischel" <beischel@...> wrote:
>
> First, Dude, insults do not help. If you're disgusted, that's your problem.
Second, a pot is NOT going to help. The problem is NOT too much audio which
could be reduced with pot, the problem is not enough audio is reaching the TNC
from the fixed output of the FT-897.
>
> At first I thought it was the TNC. But I thought of trying to take audio from
the speaker output of the radio to the TNC which of course can be adjusted. Not
the way I wanted to do this, but it allowed me to test increasing the audio to
the TNC. Well I am happy to report that the audio directly from the radio's
speaker out will work. So if I can get enough audio to the TNC, it should work
fine. So I narrowed down the issue.
>
> Now the question is, can the audio level be increased (reducing resistance in
the TNC's incoming audio line?) or adjust the radio. But I understand there is
no way to adjust it in the radio.
>
> Duffy
> www.wb8nut.com
>
> --- In tnc-x@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@> wrote:
> >
> > You guys call yourselves amateur radio operators, but buying a little
trimmer pot and putting it in the audio line is beyond your ken?
> >
> > I'm disgusted.
> >
> >
> > 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
> >
> > Prefer to use radio for your amateur radio communications? - Stop by at
HamRadioNet.Org !
> >
> > http://www.hamradionet.org
> >
>

Bill KC9OUA wrote...

> I'm having trouble getting packets out on TNC-X. It receives packets
> ok but won't transmit unless I use the tnc test program. Then it sends
> a 2 tone packet. I checked with the UIView group and everything seems
> to be set correctly. Any suggestions would be a help in lifting my
> fog.

If you can send the test tones, the connection from the TNC-X to the
radio must be OK. How is the TNC-X connected to the computer? If UI-View
is receiving data from the TNC-X, the com port settings must be correct.
Do you have it set for port 1 (one) in the UI-View station setup?

73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
--
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

I'm having trouble getting packets out on TNC-X. It receives packets ok but
won't transmit unless I use the tnc test program. Then it sends a 2 tone packet.
I checked with the UIView group and everything seems to be set correctly. Any
suggestions would be a help in lifting my fog.

73,
Bill KC9OUA

First, Dude, insults do not help. If you're disgusted, that's your problem.
Second, a pot is NOT going to help. The problem is NOT too much audio which
could be reduced with pot, the problem is not enough audio is reaching the TNC
from the fixed output of the FT-897.

At first I thought it was the TNC. But I thought of trying to take audio from
the speaker output of the radio to the TNC which of course can be adjusted. Not
the way I wanted to do this, but it allowed me to test increasing the audio to
the TNC. Well I am happy to report that the audio directly from the radio's
speaker out will work. So if I can get enough audio to the TNC, it should work
fine. So I narrowed down the issue.

Now the question is, can the audio level be increased (reducing resistance in
the TNC's incoming audio line?) or adjust the radio. But I understand there is
no way to adjust it in the radio.

Duffy
www.wb8nut.com

--- In tnc-x@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@...> wrote:
>
> You guys call yourselves amateur radio operators, but buying a little trimmer
pot and putting it in the audio line is beyond your ken?
>
> I'm disgusted.
>
>
> 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
>
> Prefer to use radio for your amateur radio communications? - Stop by at
HamRadioNet.Org !
>
> http://www.hamradionet.org
>