I have used the "non-taxpayer" argument trying to get jobs - nada!

Publication 515 itself has been quoted - they say if you don't "sign-
up" you can't have the job!

EXEMPT in block 7 has worked at some places, but they won't let me
NOT use the SS# (if you don't provide it, the interview is over)!

Some would not let me use the W-8 Asseveration of Status.

So, apparently there are no "employers" who are NOT part of the
fraud, threats, duress, coercion, intimidation and extortion.

Therefore I will die being free - no work, no clothes, no
transportation, no utilities, NO HOME ???

Luckily I have a spouse working, who gladly(?) "pays her fair share".
Nope, she understands the ONLY way to live is to "go along to get
along" . . . "not rock the boat" . . . "not upset the apple
cart" . . . "not get rid of bad apples" . . . ???  But, we are going
to have to move out of THIS apartment to an even CHEAPER one - funny,
the older apartments get, the MORE they cost (?)

Might is what is.  Law is what was.

I have tried the Privacy Act ($1000 fine) against the SS# request =
no job !!!

Hello, LegalBear or anyone - how do I live free?  Or, do y'all
consign me to death, too ???

I'll post my resume, I have already posted the stuff I am trying to
do and yet NO ONE buys.  Gonna hafta find someway to SCREW my fellow
man, just so I can live ???

Come on, jack-booted thugs, kill me so I can get off this lump of
*hit - I will NOT commit suicide FOR you!

Edification Library: revocation, first, second, third, fourth,
asseveration, truthaffidavit, taxunderstand, money, damages, rico,
voteregister, etc.  I have tried them all - I get IGNORAGE !!!

I do NOT get any more "defective process' !!!  Am being left alone
(but, left to die, too) . . .

--- In Legal_Self_Representation@yahoogroups.com, "law_self_help"
<law_self_help@y...> wrote:
What happened to software developers, engineers and lately
accountants will be happening to lawyers - their work is being
increasingly offshored to dirt cheap India. This will leave a lot of
lawyers out of work and flexible on rates. Besides people in US will
be able to get legal work done offshore at rock bottom prices. We
already have a link to one such operation in Pro Se Support Websites
Folder in Links thre is a link to Appellate Document preparer
service which is located in Mexico and my understanding is the
Appellate Briefs are being produced there by Mexican lawyers under
the supervision of US attorneys Hirchfield and Farrell. There's also
a link to that service at NOLAWYER.COM

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-369945,curpg-
2.cms

Legal outsourcing work from US picks up

MUMBAI: Clients in the US can start asking their lawyers to cut
their billing rates as offshore outsourcing of legal work to India
is picking up.

Law firms, legal publishing companies and even legal research firms
are outsourcing their work to Indian companies. The process of
outsourcing of legal work began with legal transcription work some
years ago and is now gradually rising in complexity and volume.
Broadly, the work outsourced offshore can be classified into four
categories based on complexity and skill base required.

The first category involves content work including editing and
transcription. The second category involves conversion from one
format, say, from a word document to XML or Legal XML.

Legal research involves case histories, judgement, and finally
client briefs going up to the penultimate stage of a petition
submitted to the court. (Can legal BPO work be the next big thing
after banking and insurance?)

Legal transcription involves conversion of interviews with clients
or witnesses by lawyers into documents which can be presented in
court. It is no different from any other transcription work carried
out in India.

The potential is big enough to attract Mumbai-based law firm owner
Nishit Desai to start a venture with technocrat Sam Pitroda called
IP Pro. The firm will target the IP/patents registration business in
US.
"We are not only targetting law firms but also looking at technology
companies, individual inventors and even universities as potential
customers for the venture," Pitroda told The Economic Times .

Click the link for the rest of the article
--- End forwarded message ---

Bob,
Good questions and statements.  CODE's are not Law!  As for the W-4 form in
the Law Enforcement Manual III, ((IR Manual section 3(27)(68)4.3)) page 44
illustrates a CLASS 5 Tax Code.  This is Inheritance and Gift Tax.  Sooooo,
why is everyone filing out a W-4 from an employer???  Getting inheritance
from the employer or a gift for your hard earned sweat.

Another interesting note on the same pages is that the employer who sends in
a W-3 Transmittal of all W-2 they issued out shows as a tax CLASS 1.  All
W-2's are also a CLASS 5 Tax form i.e. inheritance and gift tax.
To show you how they convert this into a taxable income go to page 32 of the
LEM book and all withholding and FICA (Form941, 941, W-3) has been converted
to a BMF(Business Master File) CLASS 1 TAX!   How can this be if it starts
out as an inheritance or gift tax?  Can someone SAY REAL LOUD FRAUD!
Note of interest relating to CLASS 5 tax is the 1099 Forms.  All are listed
as CLASS 5 Tax on page 37 of the LEM, from the 1096, 1098 and all the 1099
forms.  Any subcontractors out there remember the 1099 MISC. Forms.  Well
hold on to your hats because on page 220 of the LEM section 3(27)(68)(14).3
as of 1-1-90 listed under OBSOLETE TAX FORM OR DOCUMENT!

So if an employer ever handed me a W-4 I want a copy of his or hers Last
Will and Testament and or the employer can just send me my weekly gift of
money to my home while I am on constant vacation because of his nice gift to
me, and I would be more than happy to pay taxes on this gift money as long
as I don't have to do anything for the gift.

Live by Gods Rules and know just what evil you are passing on to those who
work so hard for you as an employer.  We are our brothers keeper and if we
are to be a poor Shepard's then our flock is diminished from our ignorance.

Scott Williams
Denver, Colorado

That is correct. Some people say that without the number, they can't
find you. That is totally false. The fact of the matter is that the
SS# is under Federal Jurisdiction found at 20 CFR.2. Without the
Jurisdiction, there is no nothing to hold you hostage to the entity
known as the Social Security account which holds you liable to file
and pay a tax on it.


--- In tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com, Nilbux@a... wrote:
> I have a copy of a ltter from SS stating that
> if you have no SSN, you are not liable for income tax

There is some truth in what you say however, the Employers matching fund is
excise tax on gasoline and placed into a General fund in the IMF.  I had my
BMF decode and sure enough it is the truth.  The other part about the SS
Fund it certainly isn't listed in 31 USCS 1321 under Subchapter II. Trust
Funds and refunds.  If you write to the SS and ask them with a FOIAwhere the
fund is, you'll get a reply that they have fund representatives.  When
pushed they will defer you to the Marshall Islands Governor or somewhere
else.  Then when it is all said and done you will note that you are getting
alot of run around to find out the SS fund is in the pockets of the IMF in
some trust fund account in some country 1 of 64 such trust fund accounts for
the IMF.
Just some input
Scott Williams
Denver, Colorado

Texas has the same.
SW

I am not promoting any one web site however you can get some very good
information here on the 515 publication concerning U.S. Corporations not
State Corporations.  http://www.taxax.org/
Scott Williams
Denver, Colorado

From the abatement:

By necessity, field officers (judges, highway patrol, sheriffs, etc.)
exercise powers of life and death to maintain authority given them by
International Law that prohibits lawful civil authority, or
constitutional mandates, because such procedures are too timely and
clumsy for military, or quasi-military, operations.  In sum,
constitutional and common law precedents are too restrictive of
Federal, State, County and City power.  Further, military courts
exercise "benefit of discussion"*6 that gives a court jurisdiction as
soon as a Demandant answers a question or demands any response or
action of a military court.

Arrest Warrants and procedures do not conform to Constitutional law
because they don't have to if a defendant appears in person or
by "special appearance" paperwork.  Arrest Warrants with a judge's
signature (black ink) and proper affidavits with true court seals,
are instruments of lawful process and cannot be used in emergency
powers courts.

Federal, State, County and City emergency powers courts and other
entities manipulate the English grammar to protect their own
International law status.  Thus, a state either writes its name as
The State of California (instead of California State) or in caps
(instead of proper upper and lower case), or uses abbreviations such
as CA, TX, MT, KS, NY, NJ, and so on, ad nauseum, all of which are
misnomers and not names at all.  Also, International Law requires
that neither party to a case, the State and the person, can appear in
their own name, but only under the nom de guerre (war name), as
indicated by a name in all caps or one name with an abbreviation.

	 To remind Readers again, emergency powers courts have no
lawful process because they have no lawful authority.
4
All process by such courts is therefore defective because courts are
forbidden to use lawful process, unless and until, voluntarily given
to them.  The real irony is, the U.S. government, in cooperation with
the States, created emergency powers courts to expand their power and
increase revenue.  But, by doing so, they've become vulnerable - to
lawful process.  Further, there is little they can do about it now,
without coming directly into conflict with International Law.  The
point is, one who brings properly written lawful process against
unlawful process - must prevail.  A word of caution here.

Attorneys-at-Law

One who hires an attorney-at-law cannot bring lawful process against
an emergency powers court.  Remember, attorneys are agents of the
court and only use process allowed by the court that licensed the
attorney to practice.*7  All bar members are agents of emergency
powers courts.  One must, therefore, never hire an attorney to appear
on a case in an emergency powers court because, doing so make
you "non compos mentis", i.e., not mentally competent, and
automatically gives the court jurisdiction over one's self.*8

To continue, Arrest Warrants with a judge's signature (black ink),
Warrants with proper affidavits, and proper court seals, are lawful
processes and cannot be used in emergency powers courts.  That's why
such warrants are never used.  And, what about the Constitution for
the united States of America in all this ?

Basically, without lawful process or authority, the Constitution is a
dead letter, a facade, manipulated at the Federal government's whim
because, lawful process itself is based on the Constitution and they
are thus, interdependent.  In short, if one is gone, so must the
other be.  Lincoln set the precedent for the subversion of the
Constitution in The War Between the States in 1860.*9  The Federal
government's use of the Constitution comes down to this; if
Constitutional cites fit a Federal need, they are used.  If the
Constitution or precedent doesn't fit, it is ignored.*10  In other
words, the Constitution is optional.

This is why so many Supreme Court decisions ("Right to Privacy"
cases, abortion rights, Social Security, etc.) for which there is no
Constitutional precedent, are made.  A 'social agenda' is impossible
without Doctrines of Necessity and International Law [BL-6:
International customs and treaties - two most important sources] to
justify the imposition of emergency powers, as a first priority.
Remember, there was no Federal Social Security before passage of the
International Labor Organizations Treaty (1935). This Treaty mandated
a social consciousness and enfranchisement of the masses.  This
process ended in the massive entitlement programs the people are
burdened with today.

A hidden constitutional problem for Americans under emergency powers
is that all constitutional rights become 'privileges' that can be
given or taken away at whim, by necessity and International Law.
Thus, in CALIFORNIA v. SIMPSON, when Mark Furman was called to
testify about the infamous tapes, etc., he replied to all questions
with; "I wish to assert my Fifth Amendment 'PRIVILEGE'.  NOTE: Furman
asserted no RIGHT - only a PRIVILEGE, using words given him by his
attorney/agent of an emergency powers court.  Privileges, being
removable at a Commander-In-Chief's whim, tells us why Congress feels
so free to modify Constitutional Rights such as those in the Second
Amendment, i.e., gun ownership, etc.

The remaining question is, how are emergency powers and martial law
or rule terminated ?

You can also take your self out of paying social security and they cannot
and will not deny you payments when you retire.  The way the law is written
they can't.  Bobbie



God Bless

Alan Bacon (sui Juris) wrote:

> I have used the "non-taxpayer" argument trying to get jobs - nada!
>
> Publication 515 itself has been quoted - they say if you don't "sign-
> up" you can't have the job!
>
> EXEMPT in block 7 has worked at some places, but they won't let me
> NOT use the SS# (if you don't provide it, the interview is over)!

How about if you fill in -  "available upon being hired". Then, once you
are hired, say you don't have one (If you don't) THEN you have set them
up to discriminate against you because you don't have a SS# because you
were qualified for the position and hired but fired for no SS#?

Also check out contractamerica.com for another alternative solution to
the SS# dilemma


--
Suzanne Shell
Director, American Family Advocacy Center
Author: Profane Justice
http://www.profane-justice.org

In re: ""Mark Fermans's Privilege".....I heard through the "herd"
.......that the reason it is called a privilege is because Fermen  has
no  right to remain SILENT  as  the Other Party has a RIGHT to his
testimony...... Therefore the scheme was designed to protect both
parties.  Bill

Greetings all,

See EEOC v Information Systems Consulting item attached.
This was used to get hired by Taco Bell. Note that Taco Bell's
current employment application form states that the SS# is (optional).

Deo volente,
Jim
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:12:18 -0700 Suzanne Shell <dsshell@...>
writes:
>
>
> Alan Bacon (sui Juris) wrote:
>
> > I have used the "non-taxpayer" argument trying to get jobs -
> nada!
> >
> >

I was fired by my former employer, America's largest
credit card lender, in March 2003 without cause and
its OK.  But here is were my problem.  I saw this
coming and had purchased credit protection insurance
for all my credit cards.  However, when I filed
unemployment claim, as required by Credit Protection
Insurance Carriers, my employer charged I was
terminated for cause and an appeals referee agreed.
My claims for Credit Protection activation was denied
by all carriers causing all my credit cards to go in
default.  I keep up with all my mortgage payments, but
I feel violated with these Credit Card Companies.

Subsequently, I appealed the referee's decions and a 9
member panel of the state department of labor decreed
that I was fired without cause. They also awarded me
unemployment benefits. The time for my former employer
to file an appeal at the state superior court has
expired.  However, since my Credit Cards are already
in default, the Credit Protection carriers will not
pay out as, accounts must be for such claims to be
paid out.  So I lost out at the end anyway, it seems.

I maintain my former employer, also a Credit Card
vendor/bank, willfully contested my termination as
with cause eventually leading to destruction of my
credit among other things.

Is there a way for me to seek compensation from my
former employer for providing misleading information
which resulted in not being able to claim Credit
Protection Insurance benefits?  What is the statute of
limitations?  What type of documentation would I need?

Any help or direction will be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

__________________________________
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Yes there is a lot of good ole American BS out there,
and I have collected a large part of it. In
refernceing back in the 1980's I purchased a lot of
howto packages from a then young attorney named Larry
Becraft. Most of the packages that I bought at that
time and used turned out to a bunch of frivilous BS
and made for BAD LAW. I see the same thing today, all
making BAD LAW.

As I said in a reply to another post, IRS employees
are paid by the treasury department, ask Joe
Bannister.

I thought as we get older that we remember history and
not to repeat it. It seems nobody listens and repeat,
repeat, repeat again.

'nuf said


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Sorry for your mis-information.
The IRS is NOT a New Jersey or a Delaware Corporation, this is what
got Phillip Marsh convicted.

IRS employees are paid by the US Government, ask Joe Bannister.

You really need to actually do the research.

You are collecting alot of apples to include in your orange basket.

None of the cites in your references are relevant, it is all nonsense
and that is why 95% of all the tax reform movement never gets
anywhere.

A little bit of my experience.

I have fought these battles since 1969.

Is this Tax Facts or Non-Tax Facts.

Isn't the terms; employer, employee, employment, is
only defined in 20 CFR?

Since 20 CFR relates to 20 USC, isn't that the title
for Health, education and Welfare?

Where is the tie-in to Subtitle A of 26 USC?

Is a W-4 referenced in Subtitle A of 26 USC?

Is the term "Employer, employee, and employment" is
only found in Subtitle C, Chapter 21 of the Title 26
and not found in Subtitle A?

Where do you find the definition of "Withholding
agent" in Title 26 USC?


just a couple of questions.



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Yeah, Yeah

Must be a newbie. The 'Victory Tax' argument has been
discussed for the last twenty or so years, I even
heard that it was finally repealed in 1994, I have the
article somewhere on backups.


As to your original question, yes, appearing in
article over 100,000 times.


--- Robert Riggins <bobert@...> wrote:
> The income tax has evolved from the "Victory Tax" of
> 1943.  But, that was
> repealed May 30, 1944, they (the gov.) just forgot
> to tell the people.  At
> the time of WWII people GAVE 5% of their earning to
> the war effort.  In
> exchange they got a gold star to put in their window
> to show they were good
> citizens.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, December 26, 2003 06:25:45 PM
> To: tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tips_and_tricks] Freedom v. Safety:
> History of Erosion
>
> Has anyone out there chronicled the history of our
> eroding freedoms &
> liberty ?
>
>
>


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    Subject: GOLD TO BE CONFISCATED IN U.S.--FIRST STEP ?



    Source:
    The Lamb Report
    http://www.lambreport.com/

    GOLD TO BE CONFISCATED IN U.S.--FIRST STEP
    http://www.lambreport.com/archive2.tpl?sku=3281325269728483

    12/25/2003

    Congress authorizes Ashcroft to track gold in the U.S.
    Posted by: Admin on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 03:46 AM GMT

    According to HR 2417 (Section 374), which became Public Law 108-177
on Dec. 13, 2003:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c108:6:./temp/~c108CDAxx0:e94557:

    (a) MODIFICATION OF DEFINITION- Section 1114 of the Right to
Financial Privacy Act of 1978 (12 U.S.C. 3414) is amended by adding at
the
    end the following:

    '(d) For purposes of this section, and sections 1115 and 1117 insofar
as they relate to the operation of this section, the term 'financial
institution' has
    the same meaning as in subsections (a)(2) and (c)(1) of section 5312
of title 31, United States Code [...]'

    where the Financial Privacy Act was one of the victims of the USA
PATRIOT Act (Section 358). Now HR 2417 redefines "financial institution"
to
    match U.S. Code Title 31 Section 5312:

    (2) ''financial institution'' means -
    [...]
    (N) a dealer in precious metals, stones, or jewels;

    This could be a prelude to an FDR-style outlawing of gold possession.
For more on the future of gold vs. paper money, see the Dec. 28, 2002
    UnderReported.com story China deregulates gold; country's demand to
double, affecting world market.

    H.R.2417
    Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Enrolled as
Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:6:./temp/~c108CDAxx0::

    NARA | Federal Register | Public Laws: Current Session of Congress

http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/public_laws/current_session.html

    Public Law 108-177

http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/public_laws/108th_congress/177.txt