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#15980 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 10:33 am
Subject: Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE THEORY extension is needed.
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A SWARM Of Black Holes Near The Galactic Center, NO MONSTER BLACK HOLE !
"An ongoing Chandra program that monitors a region around the Milky
Way's supermassive black hole, Sagittarius A* (Sgr A*) found four
bright, variable X-ray sources (circles) EVEN WITHIN 3 light years of
Sgr A*"!
"Although the region around Sgr A* is crowded with stars, we expected
that there was only a 20 percent chance that we would find even one
X-ray binary within a three-light-year radius," said Muno. "The observed
high concentration of these sources implies that a huge number of black
holes and neutron stars have gathered in the center of the Galaxy."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 114024.htm
<http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/01/050111114024.htm>


HOW CLOSE TO THE MONSTER BLACK HOLE CAN SUCH SMALL STELLAR MASS BHS
EXIST before they are eaten by the monster, 3 lightyears?

ANSWER: THERE IS NO MONSTER BH IN THE CENTER OF SPIRAL GALAXIES.
THERE IS ONLY A LOCAL WHITE (GREY) HOLE IN THE LOCAL VACUUM STRUCTURE
ORIGINATED BY AT LEAST TWO PRIMORDIAL MONSTER BHs LOCATED OUTSIDE THE
GALAXY!
SEE ALSO M31:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/R ... ABHs+1.jpg
<http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/R8xhbwsZz4I/AAAAAAAAAhI/qNiXJdppk\
TE/s1600-h/Sombrero+GABHs+1.jpg>
--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" <levu@...> wrote:
>
>
> ELECTRIC UNIVERSE THEORY extension is needed.
>
> Here I present strong indications that the existing ideas described in
> the "electric universe" theory, need to be extended by a new black
hole
> paradigm described below, able to explain all these charged objects
like
> Comets up to Galaxy clusters.
>
> for solar examples see, the electric sun
>
<http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/Reb9IJHVbCI/AAAAAAAAAEc/PuvylOrUc\
\
> yE/s1600-h/SOLAR+SABHs+1.jpg> : and
>
> http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/thornhill.htm
> <http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/thornhill.htm>
> by David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill.
>
> "The Sun's heliospheric circuit is connected to the galaxy via the
> central column and the disk of charged particles. The current path is
> traced by magnetic fields. The "open" helical magnetic fields
discovered
> high above the Sun's poles by the Ulysses spacecraft are supportive of
> Alfvén's stellar circuit model. And the solar "wind" would seem to
> connect to the broader disk of charged particles about the
heliosphere"
>
> The new black hole paradigm predicts in contrast with mainstream
models,
> some different black hole- and Higgs vacuum qualities.
> 1, The vacuum is equipped with a triangle/ tetrahedron network of
linear
> Higgs trajectories oscillating along these trajectories, and
> transmitting photonic FORM information called "the Higgs system" which
> is responsible for the so called "spacetime".
> 2, The Higgs system comprises real shaped Higgs particles which are
able
> to change form by collision into real shaped photons or real shaped
> electrons or positrons.
> 3, electrons and positrons are each others symmetrical mirror shapes
> based on a propeller form with left- or right handed pitch.
> 4, electrons and positrons are able to "click-on" with each other to
> form a so called Positronium or annihilate each other by the forming
of
> one Higgs- and one photon particle.
> 5, electrons and positrons are able to "click-on" with some (5)
> different shaped photon particles to form all sorts of Quarks.
> 6, a SINGULARITY is a globular point in the Higgs system where the
> network of linear Higgs trajectories is interrupted and not able to
> transfer photonic information,
> 7, as a consequence, the Singularity does not emit photons or
gravitons,
> has NO MASS and is not able to have some motion inside a symmetrical
> Higgs system..
> 8, The origin of such interruptions should be found in the presence of
a
> particle KNOT which is more complex than any Quark and not able to
> create any spin or photonic radiation.
> 9, the oscillating Higgs system around such a SINGULARITY KNOT will
> originate so called CASIMIR FORCE on the singularity knot, caused by
the
> CONTINUOUS ABSORPTION of Higgs particles by the Singularity..
> 10, the Singularity Knot will originate an internal resistance
pressure
> to the Casimir force due to the flexibility of each particle
compressed
> inside the singularity.
> 11, the internal resistance pressure of the Singularity Knot is always
> in equilibrium with the external Casimir pressure, as long as the
> Casimir pressure has a symmetrical impact on the singularity. Thus,
the
> Casimir force is assumed to be not infinite.
> 12, if two singularities approach each other, the Casimir pressure
> symmetry is influenced and the singularities are forced to move in
> space, or even split in two or more parts.
> This splitting process can be observed inside many star forming
NEBULA.
> 13, the propeller shape of Leptons is supposed to be the origin of
> particle spin.
> 14, the particles spin however is supposed to be originated by the
> collision interaction with the Higgs system.
> 15 each Higgs collision is supposed to change the form of a Higgs
> particle into the form of a photonic particle.
> 16, around each Singularity the shape of the linear Higgs trajectories
> is influenced and curved into the direction of the Singularity.
> 17, as a result, there will be a globular horizon around the
singularity
> where some photonic energy will travel into the plane of this globular
> horizon.
> 18, as a consequence, this globular horizon is a place of fierce
> energetic collision between Higgs particles and a place of creation of
> photons, electrons and positrons.
> 19, if the curvature of this horizon is between certain unknown
values,
> then we may expect that positrons and electrons are able to form
quarks
> (positive and negative charged) and combine with each other to form
> protons and neutrons.
>
> See:
> http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
> <http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>
> Leo Vuyk.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#15979 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:20 pm
Subject: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE THEORY extension is needed.
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ELECTRIC UNIVERSE THEORY extension is needed.

Here I present strong indications that the existing ideas described in
the "electric universe" theory, need to be extended by a new black hole
paradigm described below, able to explain all these charged objects like
Comets up to Galaxy clusters.

for solar examples see, the electric sun
<http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/Reb9IJHVbCI/AAAAAAAAAEc/PuvylOrUc\
yE/s1600-h/SOLAR+SABHs+1.jpg> : and

http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/thornhill.htm
<http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/thornhill.htm>
by David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill.

"The Sun's heliospheric circuit is connected to the galaxy via the
central column and the disk of charged particles. The current path is
traced by magnetic fields. The "open" helical magnetic fields discovered
high above the Sun's poles by the Ulysses spacecraft are supportive of
Alfvén's stellar circuit model. And the solar "wind" would seem to
connect to the broader disk of charged particles about the heliosphere"

The new black hole paradigm predicts in contrast with mainstream models,
some different black hole- and Higgs vacuum qualities.
1, The vacuum is equipped with a triangle/ tetrahedron network of linear
Higgs trajectories oscillating along these trajectories, and
transmitting photonic FORM information called "the Higgs system" which
is responsible for the so called "spacetime".
2, The Higgs system comprises real shaped Higgs particles which are able
to change form by collision into real shaped photons or real shaped
electrons or positrons.
3, electrons and positrons are each others symmetrical mirror shapes
based on a propeller form with left- or right handed pitch.
4, electrons and positrons are able to "click-on" with each other to
form a so called Positronium or annihilate each other by the forming of
one Higgs- and one photon particle.
5, electrons and positrons are able to "click-on" with some (5)
different shaped photon particles to form all sorts of Quarks.
6, a SINGULARITY is a globular point in the Higgs system where the
network of linear Higgs trajectories is interrupted and not able to
transfer photonic information,
7, as a consequence, the Singularity does not emit photons or gravitons,
has NO MASS and is not able to have some motion inside a symmetrical
Higgs system..
8, The origin of such interruptions should be found in the presence of a
particle KNOT which is more complex than any Quark and not able to
create any spin or photonic radiation.
9, the oscillating Higgs system around such a SINGULARITY KNOT will
originate so called CASIMIR FORCE on the singularity knot, caused by the
CONTINUOUS ABSORPTION of Higgs particles by the Singularity..
10, the Singularity Knot will originate an internal resistance pressure
to the Casimir force due to the flexibility of each particle compressed
inside the singularity.
11, the internal resistance pressure of the Singularity Knot is always
in equilibrium with the external Casimir pressure, as long as the
Casimir pressure has a symmetrical impact on the singularity. Thus, the
Casimir force is assumed to be not infinite.
12, if two singularities approach each other, the Casimir pressure
symmetry is influenced and the singularities are forced to move in
space, or even split in two or more parts.
This splitting process can be observed inside many star forming NEBULA.
13, the propeller shape of Leptons is supposed to be the origin of
particle spin.
14, the particles spin however is supposed to be originated by the
collision interaction with the Higgs system.
15 each Higgs collision is supposed to change the form of a Higgs
particle into the form of a photonic particle.
16, around each Singularity the shape of the linear Higgs trajectories
is influenced and curved into the direction of the Singularity.
17, as a result, there will be a globular horizon around the singularity
where some photonic energy will travel into the plane of this globular
horizon.
18, as a consequence, this globular horizon is a place of fierce
energetic collision between Higgs particles and a place of creation of
photons, electrons and positrons.
19, if the curvature of this horizon is between certain unknown values,
then we may expect that positrons and electrons are able to form quarks
(positive and negative charged) and combine with each other to form
protons and neutrons.

See:
http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>



Leo Vuyk.




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#15978 From: andemicael@...
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:30 pm
Subject: The Nature of Time
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[Danny Frederick]
So someone can accept your (A), that there exists an objective
three-dimensional world, while denying your (B), that there exists an
objective present (in your sense of 'objective present'). Someone who did
that would be denying that anything exists concretely in your sense; but he
would still accept that there are objective existents (past, present and
future). Basically, he would say there is a B-series but no A-series (have I
recalled those terms correctly?); he would say that there is temporal order
but no temporal passage. On this view tenses would be indexical expressions
that could be eliminated without loss by means of 'eternal sentences.'

[Adhanom Andemicael]
Please note that in statement A, I'm talking about a *concrete*,
objective, three-dimensional world. (I'm sorry I wasn't clear about this.)

In my last posting, I wrote:

"Let us consider the following two statements:

A) There exists an objective, three-dimensional world.
B) There exists an objective present.

In order for statement A to be true, statement B must be true."

However, I should have written:

"Let us consider the following two statements:

A) There exists a concrete, objective, three-dimensional world.
B) There exists an objective present.

In order for statement A to be true, statement B must be true."

***

[Adhanom Andemicael]
If there is no "objective present," there can be no concrete, objective world.

Many B-theorists claim that there is no "objective present." Yet they maintain
that there is a concrete, objective world.

***

[Danny Frederick]
So someone can accept your (A), that there exists an objective
three-dimensional world, while denying your (B), that there exists an
objective present (in your sense of 'objective present'). Someone who did
that would be denying that anything exists concretely in your sense; but he
would still accept that there are objective existents (past, present and
future). Basically, he would say there is a B-series but no A-series (have I
recalled those terms correctly?); he would say that there is temporal order
but no temporal passage. On this view tenses would be indexical expressions
that could be eliminated without loss by means of 'eternal sentences.'

[Adhanom Andemicael]
Okay.

***

[Adhanom Andemicael]
Dates that lack the property of being present are unreal.
B-series dates lack the property of being present.
Dates in this series are therefore unreal.

(Note: B-theorists claim that dates in the B-series are real.)


http://home.att.net/~Andemicael/intro.html

Target Article 61
http://www.kjf.ca/61-TAAND.htm
http://www.KJF.ca


Adhanom Andemicael
Andemicael@...

#15977 From: andemicael@...
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:50 pm
Subject: The Nature of Time
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[Danny Frederick]
Hi Adhanom,

There is an ambiguity in your (B). It is a familiar one. What does the 'present
moment' mean? Is it an indexical that picks out a particular time
that we could date? Or is it a general property that applies to any moment
at the time that it is present? The existence of an objective extended
temporal dimension implies your (B) in the first case but not in the second.
To put it another way, if time is objective (as an extended dimension) then
any particular point in time (or minimally extended temporal span) is objective;
therefore the present moment (let's say noon on 24 November 2009)
is objective. But someone could admit this even if he denies that there is
any such thing as temporal presence (the now).

[Adhanom Andemicael]
One way of conceiving of time is as follows:

There is an “objective present.” This present moves (somehow) from one date
to the next (e.g., from Jan. 1, 2000 to Jan. 2, 2000). When the present arrives
at Jan. 1, Jan. 1 comes into existence. When the present arrives at Jan. 2, Jan.
2 comes into existence. (As soon as the present moves from Jan. 1 to Jan. 2,
Jan. 1 ceases to exist.)

In this conception, it is not clear what the "objective present" actually *is*.
Whatever the present is, it is something that is capable of *moving* from one
date to the next.

If this moving, objective present does not exist, dates (e.g., Jan. 1, Jan. 2,
etc.) cannot exist. (They cannot exist because they can never posses the
property of being present.)

***

In my messages, I make reference to the "objective present" and the "objective
present moment of time." Please note that I'm referring to the moving "objective
present" described above.


[Danny Frederick]
To put it another way, if time is objective (as an extended dimension) then
any particular point in time (or minimally extended temporal span) is objective;
therefore the present moment (let's say noon on 24 November 2009)
is objective.

[Adhanom Andemicael]
"12:00 PM, 24 November 2009" is a "location in time." (Note however that the
"objective present" is *not* a "location in time.")

[Adhanom Andemicael]
The "objective present" *moves* from one "location in time" to another. However,
a "location in time" remains fixed at a particular "location in time."


[Danny Frederick]
I think your (A) was badly formulated, which is why I have not referred to it.
Did you mean to say 'four-dimensional world'?

[Adhanom Andemicael]
No. Here is statement (A) again:

"A) There exists an objective, three-dimensional world."


[Adhanom Andemicael]
The following is a slightly altered version of the message I posted on Nov. 23.
I use the term "objective present" in this version. Please note that I'm
referring to the moving "objective present" described above:

***

In order for an entity to exist concretely, the entity must exist at the
present. Entities that exist in the past or the future do not exist concretely.
(Past and future entities are less real than present entities.)

Let us consider the following two statements:

A) There exists an objective, three-dimensional world.
B) There exists an objective present.

In order for statement A to be true, statement B must be true.

Is statement B true? Does there exist an objective present?

We know that the mind experiences its own *subjective* present (i.e., its own
*phenomenal* present). It is clear, therefore, that there exists a *subjective*
present. However, it is not at all clear that there exists an *objective*
present (i.e., a present that exists independently of the mind).

***

[Adhanom Andemicael]
I discuss subjective time flow in my paper "Temporal Passage":

http://home.att.net/~Andemicael/intro.html

Target Article 61
http://www.kjf.ca/61-TAAND.htm
http://www.KJF.ca



Adhanom Andemicael
Andemicael@...

#15976 From: "ecnetsis" <Andemicael@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:47 pm
Subject: The Nature of Time
ecnetsis
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In order for an entity to exist concretely, the entity must exist at the
"present moment of time." Entities that exist in the past or the future do not
exist concretely.

Let us consider the following two statements:

A) There exists an objective, three-dimensional world.
B) There exists an objective present moment of time.

In order for statement A to be true, statement B must be true.

Is statement B true? Does there exist an objective present moment of time?

We know that the mind experiences its own *subjective* present (i.e., its own
*phenomenal* present). It is clear, therefore, that there exists a *subjective*
present moment of time. However, it is not at all clear that there exists an
*objective* present (i.e., a present that exists independently of the mind).


http://home.att.net/~Andemicael/intro.html

Target Article 61
http://www.kjf.ca/61-TAAND.htm
http://www.KJF.ca


Adhanom Andemicael
Andemicael@...

#15975 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:53 am
Subject: Re: CYGNUS-A and entropy decease, even around the SUN?
l_vuyk
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It looks as if the existing ideas described in the "electric universe"
theory, need to be extended by a new black hole paradigm described
below, able to explain all these charged objects like Comets up to
Galaxy clusters.

for solar examples see, the electric sun
<http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/Reb9IJHVbCI/AAAAAAAAAEc/PuvylOrUc\
yE/s1600-h/SOLAR+SABHs+1.jpg> : and

http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/thornhill.htm
<http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/thornhill.htm>

"The Sun's heliospheric circuit is connected to the galaxy via the
central column and the disk of charged particles. The current path is
traced by magnetic fields. The "open" helical magnetic fields discovered
high above the Sun's poles by the Ulysses spacecraft are supportive of
Alfvén's stellar circuit model. And the solar "wind" would seem to
connect to the broader disk of charged particles about the
heliosphere"



Leo.
--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" <levu@...> wrote:
>
> CYGNUS-A and entropy decease.
> The most obvious example of entropy decrease in the universe.
> Cygnus-A gas production by at least two polar hotspot black holes.
>
> http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
>
> The new black hole paradigm predicts in contrast with mainstream
models, some different black hole- and Higgs vacuum qualities.
> 1, The vacuum is equipped with a triangle/ tetrahedron network of
linear Higgs trajectories oscillating along these trajectories, and
transmitting photonic FORM information called "the Higgs system" which
is responsible for the so called "spacetime".
> 2, The Higgs system comprises real shaped Higgs particles which are
able to change form by collision into real shaped photons or real shaped
electrons or positrons.
> 3, electrons and positrons are each others symmetrical mirror shapes
based on a propeller form with left- or right handed pitch.
> 4, electrons and positrons are able to "click-on" with each other to
form a so called Positronium or annihilate each other by the forming of
one Higgs- and one photon particle.
> 5, electrons and positrons are able to "click-on" with some (5)
different shaped photon particles to form all sorts of Quarks.
> 6, a SINGULARITY is a globular point in the Higgs system where the
network of linear Higgs trajectories is interrupted and not able to
transfer photonic information,
> 7, as a consequence, the Singularity does not emit photons or
gravitons, has NO MASS and is not able to have some motion inside a
symmetrical Higgs system..
> 8, The origin of such interruptions should be found in the presence of
a particle KNOT which is more complex than any Quark and not able to
create any spin or photonic radiation.
> 9, the oscillating Higgs system around such a SINGULARITY KNOT will
originate so called CASIMIR FORCE on the singularity knot, caused by the
CONTINUOUS ABSORPTION of Higgs particles by the Singularity..
> 10, the Singularity Knot will originate an internal resistance
pressure to the Casimir force due to the flexibility of each particle
compressed inside the singularity.
> 11, the internal resistance pressure of the Singularity Knot is always
in equilibrium with the external Casimir pressure, as long as the
Casimir pressure has a symmetrical impact on the singularity. Thus, the
Casimir force is assumed to be not infinite.
> 12, if two singularities approach each other, the Casimir pressure
symmetry is influenced and the singularities are forced to move in
space, or even split in two or more parts.
> This splitting process can be observed inside many star forming
NEBULA.
> 13, the propeller shape of Leptons is supposed to be the origin of
particle spin.
> 14, the particles spin however is supposed to be originated by the
collision interaction with the Higgs system.
> 15 each Higgs collision is supposed to change the form of a Higgs
particle into the form of a photonic particle.
> 16, around each Singularity the shape of the linear Higgs trajectories
is influenced and curved into the direction of the Singularity.
> 17, as a result, there will be a globular horizon around the
singularity where some photonic energy will travel into the plane of
this globular horizon.
> 18, as a consequence, this globular horizon is a place of fierce
energetic collision between Higgs particles and a place of creation of
photons, electrons and positrons.
> 19, if the curvature of this horizon is between certain unknown
values, then we may expect that positrons are able to form quarks and
combine with electrons into real ionized atoms.
> Leo Vuyk.
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#15974 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:03 pm
Subject: CYGNUS-A and entropy decease.
l_vuyk
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CYGNUS-A and entropy decease.
The most obvious example of entropy decrease in the universe.
Cygnus-A gas production by at least two polar hotspot black holes.

http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/

The new black hole paradigm predicts in contrast with mainstream models, some
different black hole- and Higgs vacuum qualities.
1,  The vacuum is equipped with a triangle/ tetrahedron network of linear Higgs
trajectories oscillating along these trajectories, and transmitting photonic
FORM information called "the Higgs system" which is responsible for the so
called "spacetime".
2, The Higgs system comprises real shaped Higgs particles which are able to
change form by collision into real shaped photons or real shaped electrons or
positrons.
3, electrons and positrons are each others symmetrical mirror shapes based on a
propeller form with left- or right handed pitch.
4, electrons and positrons are able to "click-on" with each other to form a so
called Positronium or annihilate each other by the forming of one Higgs- and one
photon particle.
5, electrons and positrons are able to "click-on" with some (5) different shaped
photon particles to form all sorts of Quarks.
6, a SINGULARITY is a globular point in the Higgs system where the network of
linear Higgs trajectories is interrupted and not able to transfer photonic
information,
7, as a consequence, the Singularity does not emit photons or gravitons, has NO
MASS and is not able to have some motion inside a symmetrical Higgs system..
8, The origin of such interruptions should be found in the presence of a
particle KNOT which is more complex than any Quark and not able to create any
spin or photonic radiation.
9, the oscillating Higgs system around such a SINGULARITY KNOT will originate so
called CASIMIR FORCE on the singularity knot, caused by the CONTINUOUS
ABSORPTION of Higgs particles by the Singularity..
10, the Singularity Knot will originate an internal resistance pressure to the
Casimir force due to the flexibility of each particle compressed inside the
singularity.
11, the internal resistance pressure of the Singularity Knot is always in
equilibrium with the external Casimir pressure, as long as the Casimir pressure
has a symmetrical impact on the singularity. Thus, the Casimir force is assumed
to be not infinite.
12, if two singularities approach each other, the Casimir pressure symmetry is
influenced and the singularities are forced to move in space, or even split in
two or more parts.
This splitting process can be observed inside many star forming NEBULA.
13, the propeller shape of Leptons is supposed to be the origin of particle
spin.
14, the particles spin however is supposed to be originated by the collision
interaction with the Higgs system.
15 each Higgs collision is supposed to change the form of a Higgs particle into
the form of a photonic particle.
16, around each Singularity the shape of the linear Higgs trajectories is
influenced and curved into the direction of the Singularity.
17, as a result, there will be a globular horizon around the singularity where
some photonic energy will travel into the plane of this globular horizon.
18, as a consequence, this globular horizon is a place of fierce energetic
collision between Higgs particles and a place of creation of photons, electrons
and positrons.
19, if the curvature of this horizon is between certain unknown values, then we
may expect that positrons are able to form quarks and combine with electrons
into real ionized atoms.
Leo Vuyk.

#15973 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: New black hole paradigm for dark matter ring around Cl 0024+17
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Astronomical support for the electron jets between two mammoth black
holes, ( see image) is found in the existence of so called WHIM
filaments which are the origin of the radial rise of soft X-ray excess,
found inside the brightness profile of galaxy clusters. See: SOFT X-RAY
EXCESS OF CLUSTERS: A TERMAL FILAMENT MODEL ETC. By: Richard Lieu and
Massimiliano Bonamente, March 17 2009.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0903/0903.3066v1.pdf
<http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0903/0903.3066v1.pdf>

see also figure 1. Leo Vuyk.



--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" <levu@...> wrote:
>
>
> New black hole paradigm for dark matter ring around Cl 0024+17
>
> NEW PARADIGM Black Holes are supposed to be equipped with a heavy
> compressed Higgs particle nucleus. They come in all sizes: micro: Ball
> lightning, Comet nuclei, (dual) Sunspots, dual Herbig Haro objects and
> macro: dual Galaxy anchor black holes and dual Galaxy cluster black
> holes. In between these dual black hole systems ionized gas is
> compressed into star forming regions.
>
> Each black hole is supposed to contribute to the total dark matter
> distribution around galaxies.
>
> This Hubble Space Telescope composite image shows a ghostly "ring" of
> dark matter in the galaxy cluster Cl 0024+17 see:
>
> http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
> <http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>
>
> Why is this dark matter spheroid, shaped like a rugby ball (prolate)
and
> not like a grape fruit (oblate)?
> Is there a connection with single elliptical Galaxies, which are also
> mostly prolate?
> The reason seems to be that most Galaxy anchor black holes (GABHs:
dark
> matter) turn out to accelerate and cooperate (pair) after being
> splintered from the evaporating big bang black hole.
> They seem to be paired in BH tandems of the same mammoth size, but in
> contrast with mainstream physics, pushed away from each other by
> electron jets, originated by the peculiar Higgs vacuum deformation and
> the star forming region in the middle of this dumbbell system!
> After the merging and grouping of lots of simple galaxies, Galaxy
> clusters emerge.
> As a result the number of elliptical Galaxy increases by concentration
> of the Galaxy anchor black holes located outside these merging
Galaxies.
> The ring of Galaxy Anchor Black Holes (dark matter) as we see it now
in
> this prolate shaped image, is populated by variable sized tandems of
> GABHs.
> The largest sized lack hole tandems are supposed to be pushed the most
> out of the system and as a result be located at both summits of the
> prolate rugby ball.
> The oblateness of the Sun is supposed to be the result of a dual
system
> of Stellar Anchor Black Holes (Leo Vuyk)
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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#15972 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 8:55 am
Subject: New black hole paradigm for dark matter ring around Cl 0024+17
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New black hole paradigm for dark matter ring around Cl 0024+17

NEW PARADIGM Black Holes are supposed to be equipped with a heavy
compressed Higgs particle nucleus. They come in all sizes: micro: Ball
lightning, Comet nuclei, (dual) Sunspots, dual Herbig Haro objects and
macro: dual Galaxy anchor black holes and dual Galaxy cluster black
holes. In between these dual black hole systems ionized gas is
compressed into star forming regions.

Each black hole is supposed to contribute to the total dark matter
distribution around galaxies.

This Hubble Space Telescope composite image shows a ghostly "ring" of
dark matter in the galaxy cluster Cl 0024+17 see:

http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>

Why is this dark matter spheroid, shaped like a rugby ball (prolate) and
not like a grape fruit (oblate)?
Is there a connection with single elliptical Galaxies, which are also
mostly prolate?
The reason seems to be that most Galaxy anchor black holes (GABHs: dark
matter) turn out to accelerate and cooperate (pair) after being
splintered from the evaporating big bang black hole.
They seem to be paired in BH tandems of the same mammoth size, but in
contrast with mainstream physics, pushed away from each other by
electron jets, originated by the peculiar Higgs vacuum deformation and
the star forming region in the middle of this dumbbell system!
After the merging and grouping of lots of simple galaxies, Galaxy
clusters emerge.
As a result the number of elliptical Galaxy increases by concentration
of the Galaxy anchor black holes located outside these merging Galaxies.
The ring of Galaxy Anchor Black Holes (dark matter) as we see it now in
this prolate shaped image, is populated by variable sized tandems of
GABHs.
The largest sized lack hole tandems are supposed to be pushed the most
out of the system and as a result be located at both summits of the
prolate rugby ball.
The oblateness of the Sun is supposed to be the result of a dual system
of Stellar Anchor Black Holes (Leo Vuyk)



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#15971 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:47 am
Subject: Re: GAMMA RAY BURSTS (GRBs) explained by new paradigm black hole splitting.
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The new God (Higgs) particle and the second Law.



Hubble telescope images of the different forms of star formation and the
shapes of so called "Gas pillars" inside the star forming nebulae of the
Milky-way galaxy, tell us the story of New Physics with unexpected
results for the second law of thermodynamics and the future of mankind.
The story to be told is based on numerous observations that potential
mini- and mid sized Black holes –(Supernova remnants)  seem to repel
all Fermions because they seem to repel all gas and dust particles, in
contrast with mainstream physics ! Gas and dust tails seem to push and
accelerate these Black holes through the nebulae leaving gas pillars
behind!
If this observation is right, then we are forced to assume, that the
second Law of Thermo-dynamics is violated near "Black holes" and it will
be a great job to find physical clues which support such a proposal.
The second law of thermodynamics states:
That in isolated systems, concentrated energy disperses over time, and
consequently less concentrated energy is available to do useful work.
What we observe inside the nearby star forming nebulae is that there
seems to be lots of energy available to do useful work and accelerate
countless "entities" through these systems.





The new black hole paradigm predicts in contrast with mainstream models,
some different black hole- and Higgs vacuum qualities.

1,  The vacuum is equipped with a triangle/ tetrahedron network of
linear Higgs trajectories oscillating along these trajectories, and
transmitting photonic FORM information called "the Higgs system" which
is responsible for the so called "spacetime".

2, The Higgs system comprises real shaped Higgs particles which are able
to change form by collision into real shaped photons or real shaped
electrons or positrons.

3, electrons and positrons are each others symmetrical mirror shapes
based on a propeller form with left- or right handed pitch.

4, electrons and positrons are able to "click-on" with each other to
form a so called Positronium or annihilate each other by the forming of
one Higgs- and one photon particle.

5, electrons and positrons are able to "click-on" with some (5)
different shaped photon particles to form all sorts of Quarks.

6, a SINGULARITY is a globular point in the Higgs system where the
network of linear Higgs trajectories is interrupted and not able to
transfer photonic information,

7, as a consequence, the Singularity does not emit photons or gravitons,
has NO MASS and is not able to have some motion inside a symmetrical
Higgs system..

8, The origin of such interruptions should be found in the presence of a
particle KNOT which is more complex than any Quark and not able to
create any spin or photonic radiation.

9, the oscillating Higgs system around such a SINGULARITY KNOT will
originate so called CASIMIR FORCE on the singularity knot, caused by the
CONTINUOUS ABSORPTION of Higgs particles by the Singularity..

10, the Singularity Knot will originate an internal resistance pressure
to the Casimir force due to the flexibility of each particle compressed
inside the singularity.

11, the internal resistance pressure of the Singularity Knot is always
in equilibrium with the external Casimir pressure, as long as the
Casimir pressure has a symmetrical impact on the singularity. Thus, the
Casimir force is assumed to be not infinite.

12, if two singularities approach each other, the Casimir pressure
symmetry is influenced and the singularities are forced to move in
space, or even split in two or more parts.

This splitting process can be observed inside many star forming NEBULA.

13, the propeller shape of Leptons is supposed to be the origin of
particle spin.

14, the particles spin however is supposed to be originated by the
collision interaction with the Higgs system.

15 each Higgs collision is supposed to change the form of a Higgs
particle into the form of a photonic particle.

16, around each Singularity the shape of the linear Higgs trajectories
is influenced and curved into the direction of the Singularity.

17, as a result, there will be a globular horizon around the singularity
where some photonic energy will travel into the plane of this globular
horizon.

18, as a consequence, this globular horizon is a place of fierce
energetic collision between Higgs particles and a place of creation of
photons, electrons and positrons.

19, if the curvature of this horizon is between certain unknown values,
then we may expect that positrons are able to form quarks and combine
with electrons into real ionized atoms.



The violation of the second law.


If we are able to find a solution for such a violation, then this is a
sign of new physics and at the same time a possibility to describe
unexplained energized x-ray point sources, such as all Quasar Hotspots,
Sunspots, Herbig Haro Hotspots, Comets, Sunspots, and even Ball
Lightning.
If we look at the Carina Nebula, we may become a strong suspicion for
acceleration phenomena, by recognizing pairing Black holes as the base
for new HERBIG HARO objects which are known as the origin of newly
formed stars and open star clusters.
However we need to find the mechanism behind these pairing Black holes
which leads us to a new interpretation of physics.



We propose, that the Higgs vacuum is a dense network or lattice occupied
by fast oscillating FORM changing Higgs particles and that Fermions are
not "point particles" but real spinning propeller shaped particles able
to make a SPIN-FLIP at the Black hole horizon and repel from it.
Then we may have a logical foundation (entropy decrease) for violation
of the second law of thermodynamics at the Black hole horizon. However,
in that case, the vacuum is supposed to be a super dense God (Higgs)
particle based oscillating lattice system with a memory for speed and
position of all particles.



To name a few present anomalies at the macro- and micro-scale, which are
explained in my two blogs:
The Pioneer 10/11 anomaly.
The Fly-by anomaly.
The Venus-Mercury Radar reflection anomaly.
The GPS incidental outlier anomaly.

Solar eclipse gravity varitions

Gamma Ray Bursts. Etc.

http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/>

http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>



Leo Vuyk.


--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" <levu@...> wrote:
>
>
> New Black Hole Paradigm?
>
> It is assumed that as an extension for mainstream cosmology, Black
Holes should
> be equipped with an extra small Fermion-repulsive globular horizon
called:
> "Higgs-repulsion horizon" which is only repulsing Fermions and not
bosons or the
> Higgs system.
> As a consequence, Black Holes don't swallow matter, but only photons
and the
> vacuum Higgs lattice itself, which is assumed to be the logical origin
of the
> Hubble red shift and a pulsating model for the universe.
> As a second consequence, Black holes should have a central nucleus
made up by
> real Higgs particles which are fiercely compressed by the incoming
oscillating
> Higgs vacuum lattice.
> A third consequence is, that Black Holes are able to be propelled by
gas tails
> and migrate to a hierarchical position inside the local Dark Matter
Halo of main
> Galaxies and even migrate inside the much smaller hierarchy of Nebula
and Dwarf
> Galaxy Black Holes.
> The most distant and massive Galaxy Black Holes are supposed to be
left over
> from the (alternative) Big Bang process, which is interpreted as an
evaporating
> primordial (Big Crunch) Black Hole.
> These massive Black Holes are coined: "Galaxy Anchor Black Holes" or
short:
> GABHs,
> GABHs are interpreted as the origin of the distribution of density
waves (arms)
> inside Galaxies, with so called "white holes" as gas concentration
(compression)
> centres in between as is depicted in my book (The new God particle and
Free
> will).
> Our Milky Way seems to have a 5-arm density wave structure,
(Andromeda= 2 arms),
> so related to the system, it seems the best bet, to assume that the
Milky Way is
> equipped with a 4 or 5- GABH black Hole system, to explain the 5-armed
> density-waves. According to this system, Andromeda should be quipped
with at
> minimum three GABHs.
> Smaller scale Black Holes scattered around inside the Halo of the
Milky Way, are
> supposed to be Super Nova Black Holes (SNBHs) produced by Supernova
explosions
> during the evolution of the Galaxy.
> As a consequence, we may assume that the largest SNBH black holes are
the
> remnants of the first super heavy stars inside the Milky Way.
> Thus these SNBH Black Holes have different ages and different masses,
the
> largest black holes are supposed to be the origin of most DWARF
Galaxies.
> SNBHs could be interpreted as "scaled down copies "of the original
GABHs Galaxy
> system, which means that in the gravitational centre of two or more
SNBHs there
> is reason to expect also a White Hole gas compression location, to
form
> Irregular and not Globular Dwarf Galaxies.
> Star formation inside irregular Dwarfs, is a second evident
correlation with the
> white hole location inside main Galaxies.
> It is assumed that there is a Black Hole hierarchy around main
Galaxies: the
> most massive Black Holes are located far away from the Galaxy (like
the GABHs)
> and the smallest Black Holes are located near the nucleus of the
Galaxy (with
> some exceptions for elliptical and Galaxies) .
> This system is assumed to have only small rotational abilities to pick
up stars
> from the main Galaxy (like Globular clusters seem to have done ) , so
the
> question arises: HOW DID GLOBULAR DWARFS PICK UP (often old) STELLAR
CONTENT?
> It seems to be a logical step to assume that disruption of "close
encounter"
> Dwarf Galaxies seems to be the origin of distant Globular Dwarf
Galaxies.
> Extra families of black holes are supposed to exist which are not
created inside
> Super Nova explosions (SNBHs), but on SUNSPOT remnants and on Comets,
Mini
> Comets and Ball lightning. See: "Splitting and pairing black holes" in
the
> references.
>
>
>
> --- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" levu@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > GAMMA RAY BURSTS (GRBs) explained by new paradigm black hole
splitting.
> >
> > Two approaching equal sized black holes are supposed not to split
but
> > originate a Herbig Haro object, often found inside star forming
nebula.
> >
> > However we found multiple examples, e.g. inside the EAGLE NEBULA of
> > traces of "splitting black holes".
> >
> >
> >
> > I suggest that such a splitting process should be triggered by the
> > collision of two unequal sized black holes. The smaller black hole
is
> > supposed to be able to split the larger black hole by its
concentrated
> > imprisoned electron jet and local vacuum deformation.
> >
> > The result however is that the splitting process unleashes a BURST
of
> > electrons in-between the parts of the splitted black hole which can
be
> > described as a CATAPULT ejection.
> >
> > As a consequence however, this Gamma ray Burst ejection should be
> > "one sided" in stead of the two-sided ejection suggested by
> > mainstream astronomy.
> >
> > At the same time this seems a rational base for the fact that Gamma
Ray
> > bursts are so rare and able to travel well focussed over long
> > (cosmological) distances.
> >
> > For more details see this blog and:
> >
> > http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/
> > <http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/>
> >
> > http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/08/new-book.html
> > <http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/08/new-book.html>
> >
> > http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
> > <http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> > Leo Vuyk.
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#15970 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Fri Oct 2, 2009 5:47 am
Subject: Re: GAMMA RAY BURSTS (GRBs) explained by new paradigm black hole splitting.
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New Black Hole Paradigm?

It is assumed that as an extension for mainstream cosmology, Black Holes should
be equipped with an extra small Fermion-repulsive globular horizon called:
"Higgs-repulsion horizon" which is only repulsing Fermions and not bosons or the
Higgs system.
As a consequence, Black Holes don't swallow matter, but only photons and the
vacuum Higgs lattice itself, which is assumed to be the logical origin of the
Hubble red shift and a pulsating model for the universe.
As a second consequence, Black holes should have a central nucleus made up by
real Higgs particles which are fiercely compressed by the incoming oscillating
Higgs vacuum lattice.
A third consequence is, that Black Holes are able to be propelled by gas tails
and migrate to a hierarchical position inside the local Dark Matter Halo of main
Galaxies and even migrate inside the much smaller hierarchy of Nebula and Dwarf
Galaxy Black Holes.
The most distant and massive Galaxy Black Holes are supposed to be left over
from the (alternative) Big Bang process, which is interpreted as an evaporating
primordial (Big Crunch) Black Hole.
These massive Black Holes are coined: "Galaxy Anchor Black Holes" or short:
GABHs,
GABHs are interpreted as the origin of the distribution of density waves (arms)
inside Galaxies, with so called "white holes" as gas concentration (compression)
centres in between as is depicted in my book (The new God particle and Free
will).
Our Milky Way seems to have a 5-arm density wave structure, (Andromeda= 2 arms),
so related to the system, it seems the best bet, to assume that the Milky Way is
equipped with a 4 or 5- GABH black Hole system, to explain the 5-armed
density-waves. According to this system, Andromeda should be quipped with at
minimum three GABHs.
Smaller scale Black Holes scattered around inside the Halo of the Milky Way, are
supposed to be Super Nova Black Holes (SNBHs) produced by Supernova explosions
during the evolution of the Galaxy.
As a consequence, we may assume that the largest SNBH black holes are the
remnants of the first super heavy stars inside the Milky Way.
Thus these SNBH Black Holes have different ages and different masses, the
largest black holes are supposed to be the origin of most DWARF Galaxies.
SNBHs could be interpreted as "scaled down copies "of the original GABHs Galaxy
system, which means that in the gravitational centre of two or more SNBHs there
is reason to expect also a White Hole gas compression location, to form
Irregular and not Globular Dwarf Galaxies.
Star formation inside irregular Dwarfs, is a second evident correlation with the
white hole location inside main Galaxies.
It is assumed that there is a Black Hole hierarchy around main Galaxies: the
most massive Black Holes are located far away from the Galaxy (like the GABHs)
and the smallest Black Holes are located near the nucleus of the Galaxy (with
some exceptions for elliptical and Galaxies) .
This system is assumed to have only small rotational abilities to pick up stars
from the main Galaxy (like Globular clusters seem to have done ) , so the
question arises: HOW DID GLOBULAR DWARFS PICK UP (often old) STELLAR CONTENT?
It seems to be a logical step to assume that disruption of "close encounter"
Dwarf Galaxies seems to be the origin of distant Globular Dwarf Galaxies.
Extra families of black holes are supposed to exist which are not created inside
Super Nova explosions (SNBHs), but on SUNSPOT remnants and on Comets, Mini
Comets and Ball lightning. See: "Splitting and pairing black holes" in the
references.



--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" <levu@...> wrote:
>
>
> GAMMA RAY BURSTS (GRBs) explained by new paradigm black hole splitting.
>
> Two approaching equal sized black holes are supposed not to split but
> originate a Herbig Haro object, often found inside star forming nebula.
>
> However we found multiple examples, e.g. inside the EAGLE NEBULA of
> traces of "splitting black holes".
>
>
>
> I suggest that such a splitting process should be triggered by the
> collision of two unequal sized black holes. The smaller black hole is
> supposed to be able to split the larger black hole by its concentrated
> imprisoned electron jet and local vacuum deformation.
>
> The result however is that the splitting process unleashes a BURST of
> electrons in-between the parts of the splitted black hole which can be
> described as a CATAPULT ejection.
>
> As a consequence however, this Gamma ray Burst ejection should be
> "one sided" in stead of the two-sided ejection suggested by
> mainstream astronomy.
>
> At the same time this seems a rational base for the fact that Gamma Ray
> bursts are so rare and able to travel well focussed over long
> (cosmological) distances.
>
> For more details see this blog and:
>
> http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/
> <http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/>
>
> http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/08/new-book.html
> <http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/08/new-book.html>
>
> http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
> <http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>
> Leo Vuyk.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#15969 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:33 am
Subject: GAMMA RAY BURSTS (GRBs) explained by new paradigm black hole splitting.
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GAMMA RAY BURSTS (GRBs) explained by new paradigm black hole splitting.

Two approaching equal sized black holes are supposed not to split but
originate a Herbig Haro object, often found inside star forming nebula.

However we found multiple examples, e.g. inside the EAGLE NEBULA of
traces of "splitting black holes".



I suggest that such a splitting process should be triggered by the
collision of two unequal sized black holes. The smaller black hole is
supposed to be able to split the larger black hole by its concentrated
imprisoned electron jet and local vacuum deformation.

The result however is that the splitting process unleashes a BURST of
electrons in-between the parts of the splitted black hole which can be
described as a CATAPULT ejection.

As a consequence however, this Gamma ray Burst ejection should be
"one sided" in stead of the two-sided ejection suggested by
mainstream astronomy.

At the same time this seems a rational base for the fact that Gamma Ray
bursts are so rare and able to travel well focussed over long
(cosmological) distances.

For more details see this blog and:

http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/>

http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/08/new-book.html
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/08/new-book.html>

http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>



Leo Vuyk.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#15968 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Wed Sep 9, 2009 5:47 am
Subject: Re: TIME
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The DODECAHEDRON structure found inside the so called WMAP (Cosmic
background radiation) together with the so called DARK FLOW phenomenon
is a strong indication that we live in a finite MULTIVERSE with 12x
elliptical UNIVERSES  dubbed:

the RASPBERRY MULTIVERSE.

see: http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>


Leo Vuyk.


--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" <levu@...> wrote:
>
>
> Time is running forward because the universe is a huge pinball
machine.
>
> The fermions are the balls and the Higgs oscillatory system are the
> electric springs.
>
>
>
> However we have to realize that Fermions can be created out of
colliding
> Higgs particles inside this universe and during the big bang inflation
> epoch.
> Only then we may be able to explain the efficient production of matter
> over anti matter without a huge annihilation process.
> Only then we are able to explain that ENTROPY always INCREASE with an
> exception for black holes, because black holes seem to EAT the pinball
> machine thus the Higgs system and the origin of Fermion spin and time.
> Conclusion Charge Parity and Time (CPT) symmetry inside an opposing
> second universe is impossible in such a universal system.
> Only Charge and Parity seem to be possible and create an Anti-Material
> copy universe. with clocks running backwards (ONLY according to our
> material observation) but without backwards running time and without
> INCREASING ENTROPY as a consequence.
>
> http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
> <http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>
>
> Leo Vuyk.
>
> --- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" levu@ wrote:
> >
> > TIME is running forward because the universe is like a huge pinball
> machine. Spinning Fermions (the pinball) are driven by the oscillating
> Higgs field (the electric springs) which is supposed to be the origin
of
> the general increase of entropy and the base of the second law of
> thermodynamics.
> > However dark matter in the form of black holes will eat the dark
> energy of the Higgs field and decrease entropy again, reason to
> postulate a pulsating and cyclic universe.
> >
> > http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Leo Vuyk
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#15967 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:24 am
Subject: Re: TIME
l_vuyk
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Time is running forward because the universe is a huge pinball machine.

The fermions are the balls and the Higgs oscillatory system are the
electric springs.



However we have to realize that Fermions can be created out of colliding
Higgs particles inside this universe and during the big bang inflation
epoch.
Only then we may be able to explain the efficient production of matter
over anti matter without a huge annihilation process.
Only then we are able to explain that ENTROPY always INCREASE with an
exception for black holes, because black holes seem to EAT the pinball
machine thus the Higgs system and the origin of Fermion spin and time.
Conclusion Charge Parity and Time (CPT) symmetry inside an opposing
second universe is impossible in such a universal system.
Only Charge and Parity seem to be possible and create an Anti-Material
copy universe. with clocks running backwards (ONLY according to our
material observation) but without backwards running time and without
INCREASING ENTROPY as a consequence.

http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>

Leo Vuyk.

--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" <levu@...> wrote:
>
> TIME is running forward because the universe is like a huge pinball
machine. Spinning Fermions (the pinball) are driven by the oscillating
Higgs field (the electric springs) which is supposed to be the origin of
the general increase of entropy and the base of the second law of
thermodynamics.
> However dark matter in the form of black holes will eat the dark
energy of the Higgs field and decrease entropy again, reason to
postulate a pulsating and cyclic universe.
>
> http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
>
> Leo Vuyk
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#15966 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 7:56 am
Subject: IF THE DARK FLOW MOTION VECTOR AND THE AXIS OF EVIL COINCIDE, and point into the
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IF THE DARK FLOW MOTION VECTOR AND THE AXIS OF EVIL COINCIDE, and point
into the same WMAP direction,

then a cyclic universe is bouncing into standard cosmology.

A raspberry shaped cyclic and symmetrical multiverse could be at stake.



For the two phenomena see:

Does the Universe Have a Handedness?

Michael J. Longo

University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120

In this article I study the distribution of spiral galaxies in the Sloan
Digital Sky Survey

(SDSS) to investigate whether the universe has an overall handedness. A
preference

for spiral galaxies in one sector of the sky to be left-handed or
right-handed

spirals would indicate a preferred handedness. The SDSS data show a
strong signal

for such an asymmetry with a probability of occurring by chance ~3.0 x
10-4. The

asymmetry axis is at (RA,ä) ~(202°,25°) with an uncertainty
~15°. The axis appears

to be correlated with that of the quadrupole and octopole moments in the
WMAP

microwave sky survey, an unlikely alignment that has been dubbed "the
axis of

evil". Our Galaxy is aligned with its spin axis within 8.4° of this
spiral axis.

See:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0703/0703325.pdf
<http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0703/0703325.pdf>







Dark flow.

WASHINGTON -- Using data from NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy
Probe (WMAP), scientists have identified an unexpected motion in distant
galaxy clusters. The cause, they suggest, is the gravitational
attraction of matter that lies beyond the observable universe.

"The clusters show a small but measurable velocity that is independent
of the universe's expansion and does not change as distances increase,"
says lead researcher Alexander Kashlinsky at NASA's Goddard Space Flight
Center in Greenbelt, Md. "We never expected to find anything like this."

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2008/dark_flow.html
<http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2008/dark_flow.html>





For a raspberry shaped multiverse see:

http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2007/03/backreaction-lee-smolin\
s-trouble-with.html
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2007/03/backreaction-lee-smoli\
ns-trouble-with.html>



Leo Vuyk.



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#15965 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Wed Sep 2, 2009 3:01 pm
Subject: TIME
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TIME is running forward because the universe is like a huge pinball machine.
Spinning Fermions (the pinball) are driven by the oscillating Higgs field (the
electric springs) which is supposed to be the origin of the general increase of
entropy and the base of the second law of thermodynamics.
However dark matter in the form of black holes will eat the dark energy of the
Higgs field and decrease entropy again, reason to postulate a pulsating and
cyclic universe.

http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/

Leo Vuyk

#15964 From: "Stephen Paul King" <stephenk1@...>
Date: Wed Sep 2, 2009 1:37 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Solipsism
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Hi Kevin,

     I apologize for the long delay in my response.

----- Original Message -----
From: "kevin_liddell_johnson" <kevin_liddell_johnson@...>
To: <time@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:03 AM
Subject: [time] Re: Solipsism (was: Timelessness)


> --- In time@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Paul King" <stephenk1@...> wrote:
>
> "As to the notion of solipsism: I grow increasingly impatient with
> persons that use the term solipsism as an invective
> {http://www.thefreedictionary.com/invective) and derisive term. To claim
> that one's self is all that can be know with certainty is an unassailable
> fact. Consider the great length that Descartes when through in his
> Meditations to show this."
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
> Just an "aside" comment on that unassailable fact.  People with
> dissociative identity disorder (formerly known as multiple personality
> disorder) do not have one self.
>
> I suggested back in the university that Kierkegaard is a fairly well known
> example.  Not as a well known example of an identified "multiple" per se
> but as a well known figure who I consider a multiple through his writings
> and contemporary descriptions of his behavior.  It is not meant as an
> invective or criticism.
>
> How might the concept of time or even its physical observation be
> different in such a situation?

     If we follow the concepts in Hitoshi's theory it would seem that the
"clocking" associated with each "personality" would be distict. Consider a
oscillating system that has more than one possible harmonic resonant state.
I would wager that the brain scans (PET tomography, etc.) of the well know
figure in question would show distictions related to the particular
"personalities".

     My origional point was that one can not claim absolute certainty beyond
the notion of one's self that one has, that "I am" is unassailable. What its
content is or even its plurality does not change this.

Onward!

Stephen

#15963 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Wed Sep 2, 2009 6:58 am
Subject: THE INTERNAL HEAT OF THE EARTH AND NEW PARADIGM BLACK HOLES
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The internal HEAT source of the Earth should be found in the existence
of internal new paradigm black holes being the remnants of Comet nuclei,
crashing into the Earth in the past, just as we have experienced by the
Schoemaker-Levy 9 Comet impact on Jupiter and Sungrazer Comets into the
Sun.

New paradigm black holes are supposed to have a small globular Fermion
repelling horizon.

Able to stay inside the earth without consuming it and responsible for
electric currents and magnetism

The concequences of this new black hole paradigm however is:



1, that the universe is interpreted as a fully symmetrical multiverse in
raspberry form with a real particle based entangled quantum system, with
digital alike features.



2, that the universal vacuum is interpreted as a linear energetic
oscillating particle based "space frame" in the form of an incomplete
3-D tetra/octahedron lattice, with a fixed chirality left or right for
individual (sub) universes and a lattice length of the Planck Length.
That the energy of all these oscillations is the origin of so called
"Dark Energy" which is compensated by the negative (Dark) energy of the
vacuum oscillations within the distant anti-mirror entangled Universe.



3, That the vacuum is acting on objects (quarks and Leptons) in FREE
FALL in the form of mutual compensating resistance and propulsion by the
vacuum, originating real Lorentz Transformations , Local Time and
Inertia.



4, that the universe is created without "broken symmetry" by a
3-Dymensional semi-cold Fractal Big Bang out of a "Big Crunch Black Hole
nucleus" with a finite particle content. That there is always a mirror
symmetry between opposite parts (universes) of the (Raspberry shaped)
globular shell of semi-cold Big Bang Fractal expansion down to the
smallest sub-quantum scale.



5, that as a result, an even set of anti-COPY universes will exist,
equipped with mutual so called "anti-mirror symmetry", which is present
not only at the quantum level but on all levels of existence, up to
humans.



6, that real Toroidal shaped unifying vacuum particles dubbed
"Higgs-Virgin particles" can change shape, by mutual collision or
collision with fermions into other singular particles, which are able to
combine into compound quark particles like quarks or "massive" Leptons
(Muon and Tau) .



7, that each elementary or vacuum particle is accompanied by its "shadow
(anti) particle" for universal memory and guiding reasons. That there
are indications that there is "shadow matter" on all levels of
existence. (the explanation of single particle- dual slit interference
experiments)



8, that the oscillating vacuum particles are the only energy source in
the universe, "pushing around" all real but "complex spinning" propeller
shaped particles, (Fermions).



9, that Photons are "short living" (<1 cm trajectory) single shaped
particles, originated by each collision of a vacuum particle with Quarks
or Leptons. After <1cm, the photon pops back as a vacuum particle,
initiating a photonic information wave. Within the 1 cm boundary the
photon is supposed to be able to compute and file its digital direction
in the vacuum lattice, its local lightspeed based on different micro
amplitudes inside the Vacuum Lattice and its polarization plane.



10, that all inertial motion of matter in the local vacuum frame is
maintained on what is coined real "Lorentz polarization" of propeller
shaped Quarks or Leptons. Quarks and Leptons are supposed to be rigid
particles propelled by the oscillating vacuum itself. The Lorentz
polarization is supposed to guide the propeller particles main axis, to
overcome the vacuum frame resistance. That the local oscillating vacuum
frame and the absolute speed of matter through the vacuum frame, is
responsible for the jitter of Quarks or Leptons, which is responsible
for local Time and Mass (real Lorentz transformations) .



11. that black hole nuclei tend to explode if they are not stabilized by
enough vacuum pressure, originated by the vacuum oscillations. All black
holes (young or old) "eat" or absorb the vacuum particles which
originate a strong positive space frame curvation. Black Holes are
supposed to be responsible for the Hubble redshift, for so called "Dark
Matter" effects and for the Contraction of the Universe, which will
collapse on itself.



12, that Cosmological time is supposed to be originated by the
absorption of the vacuum by all black holes, which create Cosmological
pulsating effects within long periods. For our Galaxy (about 13.000
years by Galaxy center explosions, suggested by P. LaViolette) and
finally for the pulsation of the universal Big Bang- Big Crunch system,
(by all black holes together) originating Cosmological Time.



Conclusion: The Universe is made by evaporation of the nucleus of a
Giant virgin Big Crunch Black Hole and is not expanding but contracting
aiming again to a Big Crunch.



For new black hole paradigms see also:

Examples of Splitting and Pairing black holes etc blog.

http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/>



Leo Vuyk.



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#15962 From: "kevin_liddell_johnson" <kevin_liddell_johnson@...>
Date: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:55 am
Subject: A remark on "Local Time"
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See quotation following my remark.

Remark: The normal human mind typically considers itself singular, "I".

It does not have the warrant to absolutely simultaneously occupy multiple
viewpoints that would be needed to establish an ordering of time as Weyl
describes.

This is an unacknowledged assumption.

In fact, those instantiations of humans that display multiple viewpoints are
analytically considered to suffer from a disorder.

Just a thought...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If the purpose of the list is to examine and discuss Local Time this would seem
relevant.  This is not a flaming.  It may be that these difficulties in the
formal reasoning of humans need to be trotted out every decade or so.  Soon we
should be accompanied by intelligences of our own manufacture but which far
exceed our understanding -- though we might not see that to be the case.

Recall "Flatland" -- prescient story if ever there was one.



Quotation:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Local Time and the Unification of Physics
Part I: Local Time
Hitoshi Kitada
Department of Mathematical Sciences
University of Tokyo
Komaba, Meguro, Tokyo 153, Japan
E-mail: kitada@...

Lancelot R. Fletcher
30-3406 Newport Parkway
Jersey City, New Jersey 07310, USA
E-mail: lance@...

APEIRON Vol. 3 Nr. 2 April 1996 Page 41

Weyl (1952 p.7) has this to say on the question of
clocks and the measurement of time:
To be able to apply mathematical conceptions to questions
of Time we must postulate that it is theoretically
possible to fix in Time, to any order of accuracy, an
absolutely rigorous now (present) as a point of
Time—i.e. to be able to indicate points of time, one of
which will always be the earlier and the other the
later. The following principle will hold for this
"order-relation". If A is earlier than B and B is earlier
than C, then A is earlier than C. Each two points of
Time, A and B, of which A is the earlier, mark off a
length of time; this includes every point which is
later than A and earlier than B. The fact that Time is
a form of our stream of experience is expressed in the
idea of equality: the empirical content which fills the
length of Time AB can in itself be put into any other
time without being in any way different from what it
is. The length of time which it would then occupy is
equal to the distance AB. This, with the help of the
principle of causality, gives us the following objective
criterion in physics for equal lengths of time. If an absolutely
isolated physical system (i.e. one not subject to
external influences) reverts once again to exactly the
same state as that in which it was at some earlier instant,
then the same succession of states will be repeated
in time and the whole series of events will constitute a
cycle. In general such a system is called a clock. Each
period of the cycle then lasts equally long.

#15961 From: "kevin_liddell_johnson" <kevin_liddell_johnson@...>
Date: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:28 am
Subject: Re: Timelessness
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Something can be incorrect at its core but still be immensely useful.  I guess
it depends on what you are trying to accomplish.

I had to stop thinking about these topics for a number of years because a sort
of destructive recursion follows -- a spiral inwards towards trying to find
consistency or at least a foothold to set a lever.

So I designed parts for internal combustion engines.  Very fulfilling in many
ways.  Much of my time there was (is) spent in examing what has already been
tried and looking into the mind of the designers.

Aside: It is quite clear that a large amount of knowledge falls to the wayside
and is forgotten.  In areas such as electronics this is even more obvious.



--- In time@yahoogroups.com, Rajiv Pande <rrpande@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Dr Kanda
>
> "mathematical physicists are heavily responsible for twisting physics to
something which is not physics anymore"
> This is what I have been saying always on this list. But that is not the end
of the discussion for me. Just as I said in the "thought for today" I forwarded
from my family group:
>
> "It is easier to be critical than correct"
>
> This means that to be correct you have to posit at least something that you
strongly believe in. You have to lay down the structure of your thinking in
accordance with what you believe, with full conviction, to be correct. You have
to continuously and repeatedly explain your thinking in ways that are suitable
for qualified as well as unqualified people. And finally you have to defend your
thinking from the crticism of others. It is not so easy as you may suppose.
>
> Regards
> Rajiv
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: tata024kai <tata024kai@...>
> To: time@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:12:54 AM
> Subject: [time] Re: Timelessness
>
> It is the mathematics of transformations which forced relativity paradime to
have current version. You are right, mathematical physicists are heavily
responsible for twisting physics to something which is not physics anymore. 4D
Rieman space is yet another example. It completely ignores the flow of time and
Godel protested by presenting time reverse interpretation. Mathematical
physicists did not get message. I understad that at Princeton, Goedel tried to
discuss this problem with Einstein and Einstein avoided it. It also is
redicurous that a theory of the universe cannot handle the gravitational
dynamics of the entire universe. Gravitation is not space curveture as it
changes the distribution of masses which in turn changes the curveture of the
space itself.
>
> The entire problem started after newton. Mathematically oriented physicists
did not understand th sutlety of Newton's theory. They wrongly thought that time
is a mathematical entity. it is not. Space time symmetry is pure nonsense.
>
> Best regards,
>
> dr. kanda
>
>
>
> --- In time@yahoogroups.com, Harry Veeder <hveeder@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tata024kai <tata024kai@>
> > Date: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:25 pm
> > Subject: [time] Re: Timelessness
> >
> > > ADD ON:
> > >
> > > having said that there are as many versions of SR as the number of
> > > the defenders of SR, let me point out thatthere is one thing which
> > > is invariant there.
> > >
> > > SR uses
> > >
> > > 1. d=vt,
> > >
> > > 2. Principle of Relativity
> > >
> > > 3. Principle of the Propergation of Light.
> > >
> > > The fact tragc is that from 1 amd 2, we deduce Galilean
> > > Transofrmation. From 1, 2, 3 we deduce Time Dilation and Length
> > > Contraction. From GT, TD and LC we deduce Leorentz transformation.
> > > So, no matter proponents of SR modify the frills of the theory, SR
> > > is at its core inconsistent.
> > >
> > > Another point is that the theory of inertial reference frames (aka
> > > Galilean relativity theory) is inconsistent deu to the oinvaidity
> > > of the concept of moving geometric spaces. So, as long as there is
> > > the concept of inertial frames and PR, SR is inconsistent.
> > >
> > > I have not seen any consistency proof of SR  and GR. 
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Dr. Kanda
> >
> > That must mean an inertial frame should not be portrayed as a geometric
> > space.
> > An inertial frame is more like a limitation on a player in an elaborate
> > game of ignorance.
> > Harry
> >
>
>
>
>
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#15960 From: "kevin_liddell_johnson" <kevin_liddell_johnson@...>
Date: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:50 am
Subject: Re: Time Group set to moderated status -- message from group owner
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Lance, Hitoshi, Anna, Jamie, Rajiv, Leo,...

I signed off the group about seven years ago and just wanted to revisit.  I do
not want to discourage people from following wherever their minds lead them.

Kind regards,

Kevin

Starhawaii




--- In time@yahoogroups.com, Lancelot Fletcher <lrfletcher@...> wrote:
>
> Most of the recent discussion on this list has the character of what
> used to be called (an maybe still is called) a flame. Because the
> members are mostly well-educated professionals, the flaming tends to
> couched in terms of mathematical or scientific references, but it
> seems to me that it is a long while since most of the participants
> have been interested in anything other than being right and making
> other people wrong.
>
> As the owner of this group I have exercised my privilege to set the
> entire list to moderated status, which means that the moderators will
> need to approve each message before it is propagated to the list.
> During the next few days I will discuss with Hitoshi what the future
> direction of the time group should be. Meanwhile, feel free to post to
> the list, while understanding that your message may be rejected or
> delayed.
>
> Lance Fletcher, owner
> Yahoo time group
>

#15959 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:28 am
Subject: Re: Found: first amino acid on a comet
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Hi Kevin,

You wrote:
I am just a casual reader of this but took a little time this morning to
follow references in the article slightly deeper into the subject.

I am unclear as to why the varying isotope ratios in the universe demand
a need for a:

1) a new black hole paradigm
based on my model, it is not only a new black hole paradigm (1) but
basically the result of a new multi-universal Big Bang model creating
material and anti-material (copy) universes at the same time, with
lefthanded- respectively righthanded oscillating Higgs-vacuum lattices
(or spin fields).

See;

The cyclic CPT Symmetric RASPBERRY Multiverse, fractal based by black
hole evaporation.

http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2007/03/backreaction-lee-smolin\
s-trouble-with.html
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2007/03/backreaction-lee-smoli\
ns-trouble-with.html>



As a result, the Big Bang is a fully symmetric process of particle
creation with left and right hand spin.( entangled at long distance)

So if an electron and positron pair is created, around black holes, see;

http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-hawking-radiation-of\
-new-micro.html
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-hawking-radiation-o\
f-new-micro.html>

   then the majority electrons are supposed to be  able to survive as a
single particle in our material universe.

Most of the positrons are supposed to click-on with a gluon and form a
quark.

See:

Rigid Elementary Click-On Particles, Propellers and monopole based
Fields

http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2007/01/introduction.html
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2007/01/introduction.html>

As a result, only few annihilation effects will take place.

--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" <levu@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
>
>
> Thank you for your reaction.
>
> However, to react on each question I need some time.
>
> In the meantime I give you some links .
>
>
>
> http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
> <http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>
> http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/
> <http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MultiUniversalEntanglement/
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MultiUniversalEntanglement/>
>
>
>
> http://home.planet.nl/~vuyk0022/ <http://home.planet.nl/~vuyk0022/>
>
>
>
> Leo Vuyk.
>
> --- In time@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_liddell_johnson"
> kevin_liddell_johnson@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Leo,
> >
> > I am just a casual reader of this but took a little time this
morning
> to
> > follow references in the article slightly deeper into the subject.
> >
> > I am unclear as to why the varying isotope ratios in the universe
> demand
> > a need for a:
> >
> > 1) a new black hole paradigm
> >
> > 2) that the vacuum seems to have chiral abilities to be responsible
> for
> > the creation of only left handed amino acids.
> >
> > Instead of varying carbon 13 versus carbon 12, here is a discussion
of
> > deuterium versus hydrogen in the same amino acid creating chirality.
> > Note the (my emphasis) use of should; this is based on probability
and
> > does not merit the use of the term "only" in 2):
> >
> >
>
http://www.rsc.org/delivery/_ArticleLinking/DisplayArticleForFree.cfm?do\
\
> \
> > i=b908754k&JournalCode=CC
> >
>
<http://www.rsc.org/delivery/_ArticleLinking/DisplayArticleForFree.cfm?d\
\
> \
> > oi=b908754k&JournalCode=CC>
> >
> > "One of the most fascinating subjects about the prebiotic world is
> >
> > the origin of homochirality, as in L-amino acids and D-sugars.1
> >
> > According to the theory of the extraterrestrial origin of biological
> >
> > homochirality, the amino acids inmeteorites have been considered
> >
> > to play an important role in molecular evolution2 because a
> >
> > variety of prebiotic organic molecules, especially L-enriched
> >
> > amino acids with only slight enantiomeric excess (ee), have been
> >
> > identified.3 Their stable-isotope enrichment (2H, 13C and 15N)
> >
> > supports an extraterrestrial origin for these chiral amino acids.4
> >
> > On the other hand, meteorites also include achiral amino acids
> >
> > such as glycine and a-methylalanine that have also been identified
> >
> > as isotopically enriched relative to terrestrial compounds.4c The
> >
> > dD value of Vienna standard mean ocean water of meteoritic
> >
> > glycine and a-methylalanine appeared to be 399%and 3097%, in
> >
> > contrast to the terrestrial biogenic compounds, which range from
> >
> > 350% to 50%. Although glycine and a-methylalanine composed
> >
> > of 1H are achiral, this is not the case of meteoritic compounds
> >
> > because their hydrogen isotope ratio is high and should include
> >
> > the isotopically chiral components. Deuteration of the methylene
> >
> > group of glycine and one methyl group of a-methylalanine
> >
> > produces the hydrogen isotopically chiral compounds glycine-a-d
> >
> > 1 and a-methyl-d3-alanine 2 (Fig. 1).
> >
> > To the best of our knowledge, there are no reports on the
> >
> > analysis of isotopic chirality of achiral meteoritic amino acids.
> >
> > Analysis of the isotopic chirality in meteoritic achiral molecules
> >
> > is an important subject to help understand the possible role of
> >
> > these compounds as the origin of chirality. In addition, it may
> >
> > expand research on the pathway by which chirality and
> >
> > isotope enrichment are produced in the meteoritic compounds
> >
> > in the universe."
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Then there is Tagish Lake:
> >
> > http://dsc.discovery.com/space/qa/meteor-comet-impact-life-02.html
> > <http://dsc.discovery.com/space/qa/meteor-comet-impact-life-02.html>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" levu@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Found: first amino acid on a comet
> > > New scientist,17 August 2009 by Maggie McKee see:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17628-found-first-amino-acid-on-a-\
\
> \
> > \
> > > comet.html
> > >
> >
>
<http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17628-found-first-amino-acid-on-a\
\
> \
> > \
> > > -comet.html>
> > > "The discovery of glycine in a comet supports the idea that the
> > > fundamental building blocks of life are prevalent in space, and
> > > strengthens the argument that life in the universe may be common
> > rather
> > > than rare," said Dr. Carl Pilcher, Director of the NASA
Astrobiology
> > > Institute which co-funded the research. (space.com)
> > >
> > >
> > > Left handed amino acid seems to be created inside comets like wild
> 2.
> > >
> > > as a result, there is a firm reason to postulate:
> > >
> > > 1: that we need a new black hole paradigm to solve this.
> > >
> > > 2: that the vacuum seems to have chiral abilities to be
responsible
> > for
> > > the creation of only left handed amino acids.
> > >
> > > 3: that we need a new standard model of elementary particles,
which
> is
> > > able to form atomic anti-symmetry out of symmetric vacuum Higgs
> > > particles.
> > > If the new black hole paradigm described on this blog, include
micro
> > > black holes ( equipped with a small Fermion repelling horizon) as
> the
> > > origin of comets, then hydrogen gas and more complex amino acids,
> may
> > be
> > > produced together with water molecules around its hot micro black
> hole
> > > nucleus.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/07/small-comet-production-b\
\
> \
> > \
> > > y-solar.html
> > >
> >
>
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/07/small-comet-production-\
\
> \
> > \
> > > by-solar.html>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/04/black-holes-accelerated-\
\
> \
> > \
> > > by-pushing.html
> > >
> >
>
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/04/black-holes-accelerated\
\
> \
> > \
> > > -by-pushing.html>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/04/mainstream-physics-is-n\
\
> \
> > \
> > > ot-able-to.html
> > >
> >
>
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/04/mainstream-physics-is-\
\
> \
> > \
> > > not-able-to.html>
> > > Conclusion:
> > >
> > > The origin of life seems to be connected to Comets.
> > >
> > > The origin of Comets seems to be connected stellar flares.
> > >
> > > The so called missing mass problem of star forming regions could
be
> > > solved.
> > >
> > > Leo Vuyk.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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#15958 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:08 am
Subject: Re: Found: first amino acid on a comet
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Hi Kevin,



Thank you for your reaction.

However, to react on each question I need some time.

In the meantime I give you some links .



http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/>



http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/>



http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MultiUniversalEntanglement/
<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MultiUniversalEntanglement/>



http://home.planet.nl/~vuyk0022/ <http://home.planet.nl/~vuyk0022/>



Leo Vuyk.

--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_liddell_johnson"
<kevin_liddell_johnson@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Leo,
>
> I am just a casual reader of this but took a little time this morning
to
> follow references in the article slightly deeper into the subject.
>
> I am unclear as to why the varying isotope ratios in the universe
demand
> a need for a:
>
> 1) a new black hole paradigm
>
> 2) that the vacuum seems to have chiral abilities to be responsible
for
> the creation of only left handed amino acids.
>
> Instead of varying carbon 13 versus carbon 12, here is a discussion of
> deuterium versus hydrogen in the same amino acid creating chirality.
> Note the (my emphasis) use of should; this is based on probability and
> does not merit the use of the term "only" in 2):
>
>
http://www.rsc.org/delivery/_ArticleLinking/DisplayArticleForFree.cfm?do\
\
> i=b908754k&JournalCode=CC
>
<http://www.rsc.org/delivery/_ArticleLinking/DisplayArticleForFree.cfm?d\
\
> oi=b908754k&JournalCode=CC>
>
> "One of the most fascinating subjects about the prebiotic world is
>
> the origin of homochirality, as in L-amino acids and D-sugars.1
>
> According to the theory of the extraterrestrial origin of biological
>
> homochirality, the amino acids inmeteorites have been considered
>
> to play an important role in molecular evolution2 because a
>
> variety of prebiotic organic molecules, especially L-enriched
>
> amino acids with only slight enantiomeric excess (ee), have been
>
> identified.3 Their stable-isotope enrichment (2H, 13C and 15N)
>
> supports an extraterrestrial origin for these chiral amino acids.4
>
> On the other hand, meteorites also include achiral amino acids
>
> such as glycine and a-methylalanine that have also been identified
>
> as isotopically enriched relative to terrestrial compounds.4c The
>
> dD value of Vienna standard mean ocean water of meteoritic
>
> glycine and a-methylalanine appeared to be 399%and 3097%, in
>
> contrast to the terrestrial biogenic compounds, which range from
>
> 350% to 50%. Although glycine and a-methylalanine composed
>
> of 1H are achiral, this is not the case of meteoritic compounds
>
> because their hydrogen isotope ratio is high and should include
>
> the isotopically chiral components. Deuteration of the methylene
>
> group of glycine and one methyl group of a-methylalanine
>
> produces the hydrogen isotopically chiral compounds glycine-a-d
>
> 1 and a-methyl-d3-alanine 2 (Fig. 1).
>
> To the best of our knowledge, there are no reports on the
>
> analysis of isotopic chirality of achiral meteoritic amino acids.
>
> Analysis of the isotopic chirality in meteoritic achiral molecules
>
> is an important subject to help understand the possible role of
>
> these compounds as the origin of chirality. In addition, it may
>
> expand research on the pathway by which chirality and
>
> isotope enrichment are produced in the meteoritic compounds
>
> in the universe."
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Then there is Tagish Lake:
>
> http://dsc.discovery.com/space/qa/meteor-comet-impact-life-02.html
> <http://dsc.discovery.com/space/qa/meteor-comet-impact-life-02.html>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" levu@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Found: first amino acid on a comet
> > New scientist,17 August 2009 by Maggie McKee see:
> >
>
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17628-found-first-amino-acid-on-a-\
\
> \
> > comet.html
> >
>
<http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17628-found-first-amino-acid-on-a\
\
> \
> > -comet.html>
> > "The discovery of glycine in a comet supports the idea that the
> > fundamental building blocks of life are prevalent in space, and
> > strengthens the argument that life in the universe may be common
> rather
> > than rare," said Dr. Carl Pilcher, Director of the NASA Astrobiology
> > Institute which co-funded the research. (space.com)
> >
> >
> > Left handed amino acid seems to be created inside comets like wild
2.
> >
> > as a result, there is a firm reason to postulate:
> >
> > 1: that we need a new black hole paradigm to solve this.
> >
> > 2: that the vacuum seems to have chiral abilities to be responsible
> for
> > the creation of only left handed amino acids.
> >
> > 3: that we need a new standard model of elementary particles, which
is
> > able to form atomic anti-symmetry out of symmetric vacuum Higgs
> > particles.
> > If the new black hole paradigm described on this blog, include micro
> > black holes ( equipped with a small Fermion repelling horizon) as
the
> > origin of comets, then hydrogen gas and more complex amino acids,
may
> be
> > produced together with water molecules around its hot micro black
hole
> > nucleus.
> >
> >
>
http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/07/small-comet-production-b\
\
> \
> > y-solar.html
> >
>
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/07/small-comet-production-\
\
> \
> > by-solar.html>
> >
> >
>
http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/04/black-holes-accelerated-\
\
> \
> > by-pushing.html
> >
>
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/04/black-holes-accelerated\
\
> \
> > -by-pushing.html>
> >
> >
>
http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/04/mainstream-physics-is-n\
\
> \
> > ot-able-to.html
> >
>
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/04/mainstream-physics-is-\
\
> \
> > not-able-to.html>
> > Conclusion:
> >
> > The origin of life seems to be connected to Comets.
> >
> > The origin of Comets seems to be connected stellar flares.
> >
> > The so called missing mass problem of star forming regions could be
> > solved.
> >
> > Leo Vuyk.
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#15957 From: "kevin_liddell_johnson" <kevin_liddell_johnson@...>
Date: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: Found: first amino acid on a comet
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Hi Leo,

I am just a casual reader of this but took a little time this morning to
follow references in the article slightly deeper into the subject.

I am unclear as to why the varying isotope ratios in the universe demand
a need for a:

1) a new black hole paradigm

2) that the vacuum seems to have chiral abilities to be responsible for
the creation of only left handed amino acids.

Instead of varying carbon 13 versus carbon 12, here is a discussion of
deuterium versus hydrogen in the same amino acid creating chirality.
Note the (my emphasis) use of should; this is based on probability and
does not merit the use of the term "only" in 2):

http://www.rsc.org/delivery/_ArticleLinking/DisplayArticleForFree.cfm?do\
i=b908754k&JournalCode=CC
<http://www.rsc.org/delivery/_ArticleLinking/DisplayArticleForFree.cfm?d\
oi=b908754k&JournalCode=CC>

"One of the most fascinating subjects about the prebiotic world is

the origin of homochirality, as in L-amino acids and D-sugars.1

According to the theory of the extraterrestrial origin of biological

homochirality, the amino acids inmeteorites have been considered

to play an important role in molecular evolution2 because a

variety of prebiotic organic molecules, especially L-enriched

amino acids with only slight enantiomeric excess (ee), have been

identified.3 Their stable-isotope enrichment (2H, 13C and 15N)

supports an extraterrestrial origin for these chiral amino acids.4

On the other hand, meteorites also include achiral amino acids

such as glycine and a-methylalanine that have also been identified

as isotopically enriched relative to terrestrial compounds.4c The

dD value of Vienna standard mean ocean water of meteoritic

glycine and a-methylalanine appeared to be 399%and 3097%, in

contrast to the terrestrial biogenic compounds, which range from

350% to 50%. Although glycine and a-methylalanine composed

of 1H are achiral, this is not the case of meteoritic compounds

because their hydrogen isotope ratio is high and should include

the isotopically chiral components. Deuteration of the methylene

group of glycine and one methyl group of a-methylalanine

produces the hydrogen isotopically chiral compounds glycine-a-d

1 and a-methyl-d3-alanine 2 (Fig. 1).

To the best of our knowledge, there are no reports on the

analysis of isotopic chirality of achiral meteoritic amino acids.

Analysis of the isotopic chirality in meteoritic achiral molecules

is an important subject to help understand the possible role of

these compounds as the origin of chirality. In addition, it may

expand research on the pathway by which chirality and

isotope enrichment are produced in the meteoritic compounds

in the universe."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Then there is Tagish Lake:

http://dsc.discovery.com/space/qa/meteor-comet-impact-life-02.html
<http://dsc.discovery.com/space/qa/meteor-comet-impact-life-02.html>














--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" <levu@...> wrote:
>
>
> Found: first amino acid on a comet
> New scientist,17 August 2009 by Maggie McKee see:
>
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17628-found-first-amino-acid-on-a-\
\
> comet.html
>
<http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17628-found-first-amino-acid-on-a\
\
> -comet.html>
> "The discovery of glycine in a comet supports the idea that the
> fundamental building blocks of life are prevalent in space, and
> strengthens the argument that life in the universe may be common
rather
> than rare," said Dr. Carl Pilcher, Director of the NASA Astrobiology
> Institute which co-funded the research. (space.com)
>
>
> Left handed amino acid seems to be created inside comets like wild 2.
>
> as a result, there is a firm reason to postulate:
>
> 1: that we need a new black hole paradigm to solve this.
>
> 2: that the vacuum seems to have chiral abilities to be responsible
for
> the creation of only left handed amino acids.
>
> 3: that we need a new standard model of elementary particles, which is
> able to form atomic anti-symmetry out of symmetric vacuum Higgs
> particles.
> If the new black hole paradigm described on this blog, include micro
> black holes ( equipped with a small Fermion repelling horizon) as the
> origin of comets, then hydrogen gas and more complex amino acids, may
be
> produced together with water molecules around its hot micro black hole
> nucleus.
>
>
http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/07/small-comet-production-b\
\
> y-solar.html
>
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/07/small-comet-production-\
\
> by-solar.html>
>
>
http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/04/black-holes-accelerated-\
\
> by-pushing.html
>
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/04/black-holes-accelerated\
\
> -by-pushing.html>
>
>
http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/04/mainstream-physics-is-n\
\
> ot-able-to.html
>
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/04/mainstream-physics-is-\
\
> not-able-to.html>
> Conclusion:
>
> The origin of life seems to be connected to Comets.
>
> The origin of Comets seems to be connected stellar flares.
>
> The so called missing mass problem of star forming regions could be
> solved.
>
> Leo Vuyk.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#15956 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:46 am
Subject: Found: first amino acid on a comet
l_vuyk
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Found: first amino acid on a comet
New scientist,17 August 2009 by Maggie McKee see:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17628-found-first-amino-acid-on-a-\
comet.html
<http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17628-found-first-amino-acid-on-a\
-comet.html>
"The discovery of glycine in a comet supports the idea that the
fundamental building blocks of life are prevalent in space, and
strengthens the argument that life in the universe may be common rather
than rare," said Dr. Carl Pilcher, Director of the NASA Astrobiology
Institute which co-funded the research. (space.com)


Left handed amino acid seems to be created inside comets like wild 2.

as a result, there is a firm reason to postulate:

1: that we need a new black hole paradigm to solve this.

2: that the vacuum seems to have chiral abilities to be responsible for
the creation of only left handed amino acids.

3: that we need a new standard model of elementary particles, which is
able to form atomic anti-symmetry out of symmetric vacuum Higgs
particles.
If the new black hole paradigm described on this blog, include micro
black holes ( equipped with a small Fermion repelling horizon) as the
origin of comets, then hydrogen gas and more complex amino acids, may be
produced together with water molecules around its hot micro black hole
nucleus.

http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/07/small-comet-production-b\
y-solar.html
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/07/small-comet-production-\
by-solar.html>

http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/04/black-holes-accelerated-\
by-pushing.html
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/04/black-holes-accelerated\
-by-pushing.html>

http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/04/mainstream-physics-is-n\
ot-able-to.html
<http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/04/mainstream-physics-is-\
not-able-to.html>
Conclusion:

The origin of life seems to be connected to Comets.

The origin of Comets seems to be connected stellar flares.

The so called missing mass problem of star forming regions could be
solved.

   Leo Vuyk.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#15955 From: Jim Whitescarver <jimscarver@...>
Date: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Solipsism (was: Timelessness)
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On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Atso Eerikäinen<atso@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Jim,
>
> You are right that ”Platonic fantasies” exist in the minds. You may
> realized also that the current physics is feed by Platonic fantasies of
> Heisenberg (exactly the idealistic fantasy of Fichte), Penrose (Plato),
> Barbour (Platonia) etc.

Indeed, the popular views are plagued with many fantasy notions.

> Kant showed that in the mind, there are two a priori intuition tools for
> experience: space and time. All other is a posteriori.

Kant is wrong.  As we percieve time and space we develop ideal notions
of them.  But they are constructed by qunatum logical interaction,
they do not have fixed dimension and do not obey any Platonic ideal.

> He said: “Space and time are given to us a priori, whereas everything that
> is given in them is a posteriori.”

Well, if space and time did not emerge it is difficult to imagine what
might have been that could be comprehensible.  And the notions of
space and time that do emerge are indeed usefull fantasies without
which a sencible world could be problematic.  However, actual space
and time are not ideals, they are actual constructions obeying no
ideal.

> The a priori features of the given experience are the necessary

While I cannot imagine a sensible world without space and time I am
unwilling to cocede that such is inconceivable.

> conditions of its objective character, which means that an objective
>
> experience is not possible without some a priori forms.

Only repeatable experience is necessary for object reality, nothing a
priori is required necessarily.

> Kant’s touchstone was:
>
> “What we can know a priori about objects is limited to
>
> that which we ourselves put into those objects.”

The point escapes my at the moment, except that experience of an
object determines the object.

> But what about modality of time?
>
> “Necessarily p” means that p is true in all possible worlds, and “possibly
> p” means that p is true at least in some world. The future is just a set of
possible
> worlds, so
> the flux of time is the passage from the possible to the necessary. However,
> if causality is the mechanism by which we have knowledge of temporal
relations,
> then there is some epistemological motivation for a non-modal causal theory of
time.

That what might be experienced must be consistant with what has been
experienced is not necessarily expressing a causal relation.  That
there is an immutable ordering of events in experience is purely
empirical and not necessaily dependent on causality.  Quantum
causality proves the notion that causality and time are codependent is
bogus.

> One might ask why it is necessary to base causal relations on the
> possibility between events and not the actual temporal relations between them.
It is only
> because time somehow exists between two events that there is the possibility
of
> change between those events.

I dissagree.  That there is change implies time, but time need not
have substance other than change.

> Yet, there are some topological difficulties between
> time and modality. Is the structure of time necessary or contingent?
> Aristotle
>
> argued in favor of necessity, but Hume in favor of contingency. Hume

Time is contingent in measurement, time space and energe are related
byh constants exhibited together, never separately.

> also thought that time is merely composed by discrete instants, and hence,
> it cannot be continuous.

There are no continuities except in our imagination.

> In metaphysics, according to Peter van Inwangen, God,Knowledge, and Mystery.
> Essays in Philosophical Theology (New York: Cornell University Press, 1995),
> p. 13, there is such a thing as logical necessity and impossibility but not
> possibility. A state of affairs is logically necessary if and only if its
> negation is logically impossible.

Again, all this is imaginary, there are no absolute logical
necessities or impossibilities except in artificially restricted
contexts.

> What is your “necessary probability”?

I borrowed the terminolgy from Stephen King.  To me it means a
possibility that is actual in that it has a significant probability.
I should say "necessary possibility" as I for me, possibilities are
objectively real but probabilities are subjectively imaginary.
Collective action, undirected in time, distinguish the actual from the
possible.

Jim
> Best wishes,
>
> Atso
>
> From: time@yahoogroups.com [mailto:time@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Whitescarver
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:16 AM
>
> To: time@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [time] Re: Solipsism (was: Timelessness)
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:39 PM, tata024kai< <mailto:tata024kai%40yahoo.com>
> tata024kai@...> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Jim,
>>
>> I observe that your argument on existenece lacks in the consideration of
>> temporarilty.
>
> That is the nature of existence I describe. How does that make a
> priori existence true?
>
>> The concept of possiblity is also tied up with the concept of existence.
> It
>> can be understood as the "existence" of model. Consider
>> provability-consistency interpretation of modality. You will find that you
>> are totlly confused.
>
> I clearly understand the connection between possibility and existence.
> I grant that truth is a conditional probability. I question that a
> necessary probability exists other than as a necessary possibility.
>
> Do you suggest that a proof exists because it is consistant or
> provable? It does in the realm of timeless truth but is not manifest
> in the now and cannot, in my view, be said to exist outside of your
> Platonic fantasies. And, no finite proof is complete in my view.
> Modality is a matter of perspective without independent actuality.
> The map is not the territory.
>
> I clearly understand you consider many truths to be a priori. I
> disagree with all of them. Other than your demand that they are true
> I see no reason to believe them. Many, are contrary to measurement
> and my experience.
>
> Jim
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

#15954 From: "kevin_liddell_johnson" <kevin_liddell_johnson@...>
Date: Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:03 pm
Subject: Consistency
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The concept of negation is prime in logic and set theory.  It subsumes itself
and is appealed to on an intuitive level.

The unintentional fallacy of either i) or ii) is that of the false dilemma or
false dichotomy.

There are other possibilities encompassed by ambiguous negation that are not
expressed here.  Hitoshi's concluding paragraph demonstrates that he is aware of
this difficulty.

That we can and should recognize such difficulties I think is an important
lesson of Goedel's work.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Is mathematics consistent?
Hitoshi Kitada
Graduate School of Mathematical Sciences
University of Tokyo
Komaba, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 153-8914, Japan
e-mail: kitada@...
May 1, 2003

~~~~~~~~~~~~

...
Summarizing, we have proved
Theorem. Assume that S(0) is consistent. Suppose that the condition
whether or not there is a nonrecursive ordinal is independent of the axioms of
ZFC. Then there are the following two alternatives:

i) There is no nonrecursive ordinal, and hence all ordinals are recursive.
In this case set theory is inconsistent.

ii) There is a nonrecursive ordinal, thus there is a least countable
nonrecursive ordinal â.
In this case the corresponding system S(â) is consistent and cannot
be extended further with retaining consistency.

We remark that this is a metamathematical theorem.
Thus the inconsistency in i) of this theorem does not give any proof in ZFC of
the existence of nonrecursive ordinal. To know whether a nonrecursive ordinal
exists or not, we need a proof in ZFC or if such a statement is independent of
the axioms of ZFC, we need to add an axiom that determines which the case is. In
the latter case, the above theorem shows a direction in which the extended ZFC
can be consistent if the original ZFC is consistent.
Further, as the above theorem is a metamathematical theorem, even if
there is no nonrecursive ordinal, the case i) of the theorem does not yield that
set theory is inconsistent in the sense that we can find a concrete inconsistent
proposition like Russell's paradox inside the set theory. Rather it would be
said that we may not find such an inconsistent proposition insofar as we work
inside the set theory ZFC. Thus this theorem should not be interpreted as
stating any concrete inconsistency of set theory.
~~~~~~~~~~~

#15953 From: "kevin_liddell_johnson" <kevin_liddell_johnson@...>
Date: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:03 am
Subject: Re: Solipsism (was: Timelessness)
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--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Paul King" <stephenk1@...> wrote:

"As to the notion of solipsism: I grow increasingly impatient with  persons that
use the term solipsism as an invective
{http://www.thefreedictionary.com/invective) and derisive term. To claim that
one's self is all that can be know with certainty is an unassailable fact.
Consider the great length that Descartes when through in his Meditations to show
this."

Hi Stephen,

Just an "aside" comment on that unassailable fact.  People with dissociative
identity disorder (formerly known as multiple personality disorder) do not have
one self.

I suggested back in the university that Kierkegaard is a fairly well known
example.  Not as a well known example of an identified "multiple" per se but as
a well known figure who I consider a multiple through his writings and
contemporary descriptions of his behavior.  It is not meant as an invective or
criticism.

How might the concept of time or even its physical observation be different in
such a situation?

#15952 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Sat Aug 8, 2009 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: Why are early galaxies so strangely compact?
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I wrote:

Reason to accept that the shorter Planck length is also the origin of
the Hubble redshift.
As a result this is a clear support for a cyclic bouncing universe!



Question:

What is the effect of a shorter Planck length and how we could imagine
spacetime effects?

In my perspective, a shorter Planck length should not influence the
local time created by the oscillations of a caesium atom.

The caesium atom oscillations are supposed to be related to a fixed
number of collisions with Higgs particles which are supposed to be
active along the chiral 3-Dimensional vacuum lattice.

As a result: If all the Higgs oscillations in the whole universe are
synchronized going up and down at the same moment, then the local time
is independent of the length of the Planck trajectory length.






--- In time@yahoogroups.com, "l_vuyk" <levu@...> wrote:
>
>
> Why are early galaxies so strangely compact?
>
> Early Galaxies show a much larger mass-star content ratio than we do
> inside our local universe.
>
> Are these galaxies more massive (by more dark matter?) or does their
> gravity efficiency change, (by dark energy content)
>
>
>
> Stars in a distant galaxy NGC 1097, move at stunning speeds —
> greater than 1 million mph, astronomers have revealed. (space.com
–
> Wed Aug 5, 2009,1:16 pm ET)
>
> These hyperactive stars move at about twice the speed of our sun
through
> the Milky Way, because their host galaxy is very massive, yet
strangely
> compact. The scene, which has theorists baffled, is 11 billion
> light-years away.
>
>
>
> Given its distance of 11 billion light-years, galaxy 1255-0 is seen as
> it existed 11 billion years ago, less than 3 billion years after the
> theoretical Big Bang.
>
> Something wrong?
>
> Somehow, galaxies from the young universe grow in size but not in
> mass– they spread out but maintain their overall heft – to
> become the high-mass full sized galaxies we see today.
>
>
>
> In my perspective, there are two options:
>
> Are these galaxies more massive (by more dark matter?) or does their
> gravity efficiency change, (by a larger dark energy content)
>
> If Higgs vacuum particles are able to change into matter and
radiation,
> then matter is concentrated space, then we may presume that the
gravity
> efficiency in decreasing over time after the big bang, because the
local
> dark energy content (or Higgs energy) is decreasing.
>
> In other words, the Planck length is shorter in the early universe and
> the vacuum as a result is more dense and energetic in its pushing
force
> on fermions (see Le Sage gravity theory).
>
> Reason to accept that the shorter Planck length is also the origin of
> the Hubble redshift.
>
> As a result we are living in a cyclic bouncing universe!
>
>
>
> See:
>
> http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/
> <http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/>
>
> Leo Vuyk.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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#15951 From: "l_vuyk" <levu@...>
Date: Thu Aug 6, 2009 12:56 pm
Subject: Why are early galaxies so strangely compact?
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Why are early galaxies so strangely compact?

Early Galaxies show a much larger mass-star content ratio than we do
inside our local universe.

Are these galaxies more massive (by more dark matter?) or does their
gravity efficiency change, (by dark energy content)



Stars in a distant galaxy NGC 1097, move at stunning speeds —
greater than 1 million mph, astronomers have revealed. (space.com –
Wed Aug 5, 2009,1:16 pm ET)

These hyperactive stars move at about twice the speed of our sun through
the Milky Way, because their host galaxy is very massive, yet strangely
compact. The scene, which has theorists baffled, is 11 billion
light-years away.



Given its distance of 11 billion light-years, galaxy 1255-0 is seen as
it existed 11 billion years ago, less than 3 billion years after the
theoretical Big Bang.

Something wrong?

Somehow, galaxies from the young universe grow in size but not in
mass– they spread out but maintain their overall heft – to
become the high-mass full sized galaxies we see today.



In my perspective, there are two options:

Are these galaxies more massive (by more dark matter?) or does their
gravity efficiency change, (by a larger dark energy content)

If Higgs vacuum particles are able to change into matter and radiation,
then matter is concentrated space, then we may presume that the gravity
efficiency in decreasing over time after the big bang, because the local
dark energy content (or Higgs energy) is decreasing.

In other words, the Planck length is shorter in the early universe and
the vacuum as a result is more dense and energetic in its pushing force
on fermions (see Le Sage gravity theory).

Reason to accept that the shorter Planck length is also the origin of
the Hubble redshift.

As a result we are living in a cyclic bouncing universe!



See:

http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/
<http://migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/>

Leo Vuyk.



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