Dear Thomists, I think that Francisco did not say that governments have an absolute right to take land property but that it has such right if the common good...
Alex, Francisco did not place limits or requirements on the ability of the state to take and distribute the property of others. If he would like to place...
Is it possible that not one of our hundreds of members can locate that quote by St Thomas suggesting that contemplation is the foundation for action? Or is it...
Ron, Nowhere in the text you quote from Francisco does he ever say that government has "the absolute right", as you put it, "to do as they please". If...
I meant to say: Please calmly respond to posts, and take time to get the facts straight. It is not necessary that you reply "within hours" of any post that...
James, I did calmly respond to Francisco's post. He made a blanket statement that the government had the right to take property for the sake of the common...
Dear Thomists, Some extracts of the Compendium of the social doctrine of the Church (available online on the Vatican web site): What is the common good? 164....
Ron, No pardon is necessary for taking a person precisely at what he said, so we must think the same of McGlynn. Joe ************************************** See...
Alex, We are not talking about expropriation in the respect that you are. In this instance we are talking about the economic doctrine of Henry George that...
Catechism of the Catholic Church: 2211 The political community has a duty to honor the family, to assist it, and to ensure especially: - the freedom to...
Alex, Government, proper authority, has the right to expropriate property if the common good demands it. For example if you own a huge amount of land in such a...
Joe, I don't know much about English history, but I believe that the King of England was more or less at war with the Catholic Church, if I can put it that...
Francisco, No, it is not Catholic teaching. Catholic teaching is that the government has the duty to protect private property. Again I quote the CCC: 2431 The...
Joe, Your error is to assume that the state has the unlimited right to appropriate private property for the sake of the common good as it sees fit. This is...
James, you see? No limits. This one is all yours, Joe! Ron ... King of ... put it ... simply ... of England ... during ... regime is ... the English ... give ...
... Henry ... those ... Ron, Speak for yourself! I asked you before NOT to put words in other people's mouths. Allow Francisco to speak for himself. And...
... Ron, You do not even give the text the basic justice of speaking for itself. What do you mean "No limits"? Francisco does not use that term. No where...
OK, James, what are the limits that Francisco is setting out here? Ron ... King of ... put it ... simply ... of England ... during ... regime is ... the...
... The issue is not "Georgism", as I said before. The issue is finding in George certain truths compatible with magisterial views and thomist teachings. ... ...
In a message dated 5/1/2007 11:56:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, francox5@... writes: Joe, I don't know much about English history, but I believe that...
Dear Ron, I perceive myself to be saying, right or wrongly, just the opposite. I perceive myself to say that a doctrine that in some kind of perfect world, a ...
In a message dated 5/2/2007 6:52:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, uncljoedoc@... writes: But the rights to private property have been abrogated not changed...
James, The argument is getting redundant. What you call "hearsay" is from the very source you first quoted, Goege Jr's biography. You can dismiss it if you...
Joe, I prefer to turn to St Thomas and the Magisterium. What you or I think is not authoritative. Ron ... opposite. I ... world, a ... is untenable. ... it...
In a message dated 5/2/2007 2:07:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, roncriss@... writes: Joe, I prefer to turn to St Thomas and the Magisterium. What you...
... Thomas. I do. ... permitted to 'have ... hand, as you ... my own ... meantime let us ... scrutiny of ... Joe, The point I am trying to make is that you and...
... Thomas. I do. ... permitted to 'have ... hand, as you ... my own ... meantime let us ... scrutiny of ... Joe, I think everyone here admits to the fact...
Ron, Your obsessive efforts to distort my statements is laughable. Everyone here seems to of understood what I have written except you. Get over it. Francisco...
