Heya. Just seeing if this account is still alive :}  You've heard it
a few times already, so you know where to find me :}

Take care:}
Eonwë

Aiya Eonwe! Aye, you're still alive. :)
-Varda

--- In thevalarguild@yahoogroups.com, eonwe_valar <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> Heya. Just seeing if this account is still alive :}  You've heard it
> a few times already, so you know where to find me :}
>
> Take care:}
> Eonwë

January 14, 15 & 16, 2005
ONE RING CELEBRATION
Pasadena Center
300 E. Green St
Pasadena, Ca.
CONFIRMED LORD OF THE RINGS GUESTS!
Sean Astin, Billy Boyd, Brad Dourif, Bruce Hopkins, and John Rhys-
Davies are all confirmed to appear at the One Ring Celebration, and
we anticipate many more to come!

SCREENING OF THE TRILOGY!
We will be screening, from DVD, the complete Extended Editions of
all three films!

Fan Film and Video Screenings
Aspiring Tolkien filmmakers will be able to showcase their work in
our fan film and video screening room. The best of these submissions
will be shown at the convention.

Yahoo group for questions  ORCinCA

UPDATE!! Guidelines for fan film submissions are now posted.

COSTUMING GALORE!
"Create a Little Piece of Middle Earth at Home"
This track will present several techniques on fashion recreations
for the many races of Middle-earth. Costumes, armor, prosthetics,
and general design themes from the movie trilogy will be discussed.
Come see how you can transform yourself into your favorite LOTR
character!

Middle-earth Fashion Show and Costume Contest
If you have a MIddle-earth costume, we want to see it. The rules and
registration info will be posted soon, so make sure you find that
perfect trim and bring your costumes with you.

Yes, there is something for the kids!
Bring the kids and let them learn how to apply Elf Ears, create
Tolkien themed arts and crafts, read some of Tolkien's classics out
loud, and participate in a Sing-a-long with TORn's very own Singing
Gandalf!

LOTR Art Show
Are you artistically inspired by the world of Middle-earth, or the
characters that dwell within it? ORC will feature a comprehensive
Tolkien themed Art Show. Get out your easels and be prepared to
share your passion and creativity. All forms of art will be
welcomed, including 3D, sculpture, and others.

Dealers Room and LOTR Exhibit
We will have exhibitors from around the world featuring arts, crafts
and licensed Tolkien and LOTR merchandise. Sideshow Weta
Collectibles will display their beautiful line of LOTR collectibles
as well as their awesome full size recreations of Gollum, ORC
warriors and more- don't miss this!

Middle Earth Breakfast and Charity Auction
A charity auction will be held Sunday morning for select fans with a
silent auction benefiting several charities.

The One Ring Awards Celebration
Join us for the first annual awards show for all things Tolkien. In
a similar tradition to the previous Golden Gandalf's, 'The One Ring
Awards' will incorporate art, literature, film and the spirit of
Tolkien. More details will be announced shortly.

This is just the beginning, there is so much more planned that we
are still working around the clock to organize it all. Fan fiction,
gaming, music, 'Ringers: Lord of the Fans,' Elvish lessons, and
Tolkien Academia to name just a fraction of it all. Watch this
website over the coming months, or sign up for the mailing list, and
learn what else we'll add to the mix.
http://www.oneringcelebration.com
Thanks for reading and hope to see you there!

does anyone know where i can find yavanna pictures?
i need as many as possible!!!!!!!
thanks

btw i am new and i wanna say
HELLO!!!!!!!!!!

Hail!

An excellent site for Tolkien images is:
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/

You can also locate a few from the Valar Guild's Tolkien Encyclopedia
under Powers/Yavanna.


--- In thevalarguild@yahoogroups.com, "waenthondiel, the too tall
hobbit who wanted to be an elf!!!" <gogopinger@h...> wrote:
>
> does anyone know where i can find yavanna pictures?
> i need as many as possible!!!!!!!
> thanks
>
> btw i am new and i wanna say
> HELLO!!!!!!!!!!

Aiya! The Tolkien Encyclopedia still needs your input: articles,
stories, poems, art, humor, translations, Tolkien book lists and
reviews. This is your chance to do input as a Tolkien fan.

Some of you are listed in our web pages as Tolkien-Valar members,
those who are interested in Tolkien and contributing to the
Encyclopedia but not in gaming. I am trying to update that web page
with which of you is still interested, but some emails are out of date
so I'm asking you here: Amanlathwen-(TV), Gandalf-(TV), Khaira-(TV),
Manik-(TV), and TJ-(TV). If you'd rather, you can email me at my new
address: varda.elentari@...

We also have Tolkien plus Gamers (full members) on this board. Be sure
you have been included for this year's list as well. An email to me
saying you are still in is enough. World of WarCraft is the new big
game we are branching into, using Lothar server. Auros is Eonwe's WoW
name as branch leader. I help out as Fainan. Use our guild's WoW page
or the main Forum under World of WarCraft to pick up more names for
your friend list.

For readers of the Discussion Board unfamiliar with the main guild,
you can join as a Tolkien-only member by sending in a contribution to
the Valar Guild's Tolkien Encyclopedia. I'm editor, so email it to me.
If it needs work, I can help you with it. Be sure to include
references from Tolkien. Web info is notoriously incorrect as it may
be from memory or the movies. If you are doing a movie-based
contribution, please say so.

Namarie,
Varda-(Valar)

The Valar Guild now has a fully operating guild branch on World of
WarCraft, Lothar server.

What happened to the spirits of Sauron and Saruman? This topic was
brought up in live discussion by Ar-Pharazon-(V) April 8, 2005. What
do you think happened to them, from your reading, and what do you
think should have happened to them?

This is not the place to post your ads or try to convert people to
your religious beliefs. I remove spam from this board.

This is a place to post anything concerning Tolkien.

Gandalf, and his mission on Middle-earth. What was it? How did he
handle it? What was it about him that he managed to see it through as
the others strayed from their paths, and how did this affect his own?

At the end of the Return of the King, what are the names of the three
eagles sent to Mt. Doom? Why send three Eagles?

Gentles, it's ok to use the books to look up answers to these Forum
questions. You might even find something interesting to add that way.
Happy reading!

Hi,
    Galadriel is already related to Elrond even before his marriage to
Celebrian. Galadriel is from Finwe and Finarfin; and Elrond is from
Fingolfin, Idril, and Earendil. So, Galadriel is a grandaunt of
Elrond, which makes Celebrian, her daughter, an aunt of Elrond.

    It is strange that Elrond got married to his aunt. And a similar,
though more distant, relation is when Aragorn is married to Arwen,
both being of the same line of Earendil.

    Any comments on this?

regards,
Kedar.

Aiya Kedar!
   Here's a link that can help us make sense of this discussion:
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/pix/treebw.jpg
   Maybe only first cousins are barred from marriage?
   To add to the fun, Aragorn and Arwen come through the two twin sons
of Earendil, so the DNA of Elrond and Elros would have been as if they
were the same person. If Elros hadn't gone human and mixed all those
many descendents between himself and Aragorn, Arwen and Aragorn really
would have been too close for marriage.
   Galadriel of Valinor sems to be a major point of the mixing of blood
lines, so having her in the background is not bad on the inbreeding.
We can also assume that the very earliest elves would be very strong,
and that inbreeding among them would not be dangerous for the
offspring, even though they have a lot of major royalty the way
Galadriel does.
   Galadriel is not far from the earliest elves, and even those are
mixed, giving her three of the Elf types. Her father, Finarfin, has
parents from two completely different types of Elves: Finwe is
Noldorin, Idril is a blonde Vanyarin. Her mother's father is Olwe of
the Teleri.
   Elves lived so long, remaining youthful, that they didn't have a lot
of bloodlines to choose from, and could find elves of much different
age attractive. Ahh, the problems.
   It is implied that not all the bloodlines are told to us. For
instance, the mothers are sometimes left unmentioned, so we can't see
where they come from. Whole lines are left out. For instance, who are
the relatives of Celeborn connecting to Oropher, Thranduil, and
Legolas? Surely Celeborn doesn't call just any other Sinda his
kinsman? The speculation is that Thranduil's line come through Elmo.
The lines may be more tangled than we know.

--- In thevalarguild@yahoogroups.com, "kedarnath_r" <kd213@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>    Galadriel is already related to Elrond even before his marriage to
> Celebrian. Galadriel is from Finwe and Finarfin; and Elrond is from
> Fingolfin, Idril, and Earendil. So, Galadriel is a grandaunt of
> Elrond, which makes Celebrian, her daughter, an aunt of Elrond.
>
>    It is strange that Elrond got married to his aunt. And a similar,
> though more distant, relation is when Aragorn is married to Arwen,
> both being of the same line of Earendil.
>
>    Any comments on this?
>
> regards,
> Kedar.
>

Thanks Varda! makes a lot of sense.

Kedar.

--- In thevalarguild@yahoogroups.com, "varda_valar"
<varda.elentari@...> wrote:
>
> Aiya Kedar!
>   Here's a link that can help us make sense of this discussion:
> http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/pix/treebw.jpg
>   Maybe only first cousins are barred from marriage?
>   To add to the fun, Aragorn and Arwen come through the two twin
sons
> of Earendil, so the DNA of Elrond and Elros would have been as if
they
> were the same person. If Elros hadn't gone human and mixed all
those
> many descendents between himself and Aragorn, Arwen and Aragorn
really
> would have been too close for marriage.
>   Galadriel of Valinor sems to be a major point of the mixing of
blood
> lines, so having her in the background is not bad on the
inbreeding.
> We can also assume that the very earliest elves would be very
strong,
> and that inbreeding among them would not be dangerous for the
> offspring, even though they have a lot of major royalty the way
> Galadriel does.
>   Galadriel is not far from the earliest elves, and even those are
> mixed, giving her three of the Elf types. Her father, Finarfin, has
> parents from two completely different types of Elves: Finwe is
> Noldorin, Idril is a blonde Vanyarin. Her mother's father is Olwe
of
> the Teleri.
>   Elves lived so long, remaining youthful, that they didn't have a
lot
> of bloodlines to choose from, and could find elves of much
different
> age attractive. Ahh, the problems.
>   It is implied that not all the bloodlines are told to us. For
> instance, the mothers are sometimes left unmentioned, so we can't
see
> where they come from. Whole lines are left out. For instance, who
are
> the relatives of Celeborn connecting to Oropher, Thranduil, and
> Legolas? Surely Celeborn doesn't call just any other Sinda his
> kinsman? The speculation is that Thranduil's line come through
Elmo.
> The lines may be more tangled than we know.
>
> --- In thevalarguild@yahoogroups.com, "kedarnath_r" <kd213@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >    Galadriel is already related to Elrond even before his
marriage to
> > Celebrian. Galadriel is from Finwe and Finarfin; and Elrond is
from
> > Fingolfin, Idril, and Earendil. So, Galadriel is a grandaunt of
> > Elrond, which makes Celebrian, her daughter, an aunt of Elrond.
> >
> >    It is strange that Elrond got married to his aunt. And a
similar,
> > though more distant, relation is when Aragorn is married to
Arwen,
> > both being of the same line of Earendil.
> >
> >    Any comments on this?
> >
> > regards,
> > Kedar.
> >
>

What does Tolkien consider a Hero? Who were some of them? Heroes
tended to be part of an ensemble, but were separated and reunited.
Might the changing groupings be form of hero as well?

What is the Hero's Reward for the members of the Fellowship? This
could be the goals reached, and "incidental" rewards from reaching for
the goal.

Note all associated links between the archetypes presented by Tolkien,
Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell. I think Tolkien grasps well the
variation of the male hero archetypes (there's not only one, and their
reward is determined by their quest). Not so sure about the female
heros--Varda?

Bain

Couldn't the same archetypes be applied to the heroines as well? That
could apply to the Heroic Quest as well: such as separation from the
family and tribal unit (Eowyn loses her parents and is taken in by
Theoden), the heroic quest, and the return with improvements that
benefit the original group.

The original topic, however, related to the Fellowship, which happened
to be all male, and what sort of rewards they received due to heroism,
whether intentional or not.

You might enjoy looking at the transcript of a discussion a few of us
had on that in the News for April 16, 2006, or just go straight to the
transcript's Tolkien section:
http://valarguild.org/varda/guild/transcripts/2006/tranApril16,06.htm#Tolkien

Would you care instead, or as well, to elaborate on how any of them
(or the ensemble as if it were one hero) fit into any of the
archetypes of heroes to which you alluded? From there, we could see
how they might also be applied to females. Maybe a hero by any other
name...?  ;)



--- In thevalarguild@yahoogroups.com, "Michael_Friga"
<michael_friga@...> wrote:
>
> Note all associated links between the archetypes presented by Tolkien,
> Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell. I think Tolkien grasps well the
> variation of the male hero archetypes (there's not only one, and their
> reward is determined by their quest). Not so sure about the female
> heros--Varda?
>
> Bain
>

Hi, everyone! My name is David, and I'm new to the group.

I wanted to know if the group owners and members would allow me to
conduct a survey here. I'm asking Tolkien readers and film-goers to
explain what Tolkien means to them. I'm going to write an article or
two with the responses I get. Hopefully, I'll have enough material for
a book.

I don't want the survey to become disruptive, however. If doing this
would create too much traffic, I can either:

1) Post the survey, but ask participants to answer via e-mail, or
2) Ask people to request a survey by e-mail.

If anyone is interested, I can go into more detail about what I'm
doing. Thanks!

Tolkien gives us an alternate world good for:

Fellowship:
Caring, loyalty, friendship, enjoyment of other types of people than
oneself.

Sense of wonder:
Innovation, crafting of wondrous things, a beautiful environment with
many terrains and civilizations.

Making a difference:
The main sources of evil can be fought and destroyed.
Both the small and the great can make enormous contributions and work
together.

--- In thevalarguild@yahoogroups.com, "uncertaintimes"
<uncertaintimes@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, everyone! My name is David, and I'm new to the group.
>
> I wanted to know if the group owners and members would allow me to
> conduct a survey here. I'm asking Tolkien readers and film-goers to
> explain what Tolkien means to them. I'm going to write an article or
> two with the responses I get. Hopefully, I'll have enough material for
> a book.
>
> I don't want the survey to become disruptive, however. If doing this
> would create too much traffic, I can either:
>
> 1) Post the survey, but ask participants to answer via e-mail, or
> 2) Ask people to request a survey by e-mail.
>
> If anyone is interested, I can go into more detail about what I'm
> doing. Thanks!
>

Hi, everyone.  I've decided to use a blog for the survey.  If you want
to participate, please visit Surveying Middle-earth
<http://middleearthsurvey.blogspot.com/> .  Thanks!

--- In thevalarguild@yahoogroups.com, "uncertaintimes"
<uncertaintimes@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, everyone! My name is David, and I'm new to the group.
>
> I wanted to know if the group owners and members would allow me to
> conduct a survey here. I'm asking Tolkien readers and film-goers to
> explain what Tolkien means to them. I'm going to write an article or
> two with the responses I get. Hopefully, I'll have enough material for
> a book.
>
> I don't want the survey to become disruptive, however. If doing this
> would create too much traffic, I can either:
>
> 1) Post the survey, but ask participants to answer via e-mail, or
> 2) Ask people to request a survey by e-mail.
>
> If anyone is interested, I can go into more detail about what I'm
> doing. Thanks!
>



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I've re-joined the group with a new profile and e-mail address.

Here is the full survey questionnaire. It is very, verylong. You can
either answer here in the group (with the Owner'spermission), or you can
visit my blog and answer it there.  Thelink again is Surveying
Middle-earth <http://middleearthsurvey.blogspot.com/> .

SURVEY

Please answer the questions by either typing the answer after
thequestion, or just the number or letter of the question followed by
your answer.

I prefer that you participate anonymously. If you want meto credit you
for any material I quote, write this in your reply. I'lluse your
forum name ONLY. Please don't give out your real names ore-mail
addresses.

Answer all or just some of the questions. Answers can be anylength. I
will read and use all survey responses. Thank you forparticipating!

1) Your age

2) Your gender

3) Country of residence

4) Languages(s) spoken

5) Which of the following books have you read? Please list using the
title abbreviations.

a. HOB: The Hobbit
b. LOTR: The Lord of the Rings
c. SIL: The Silmarillion
d. UT: Unfinished Tales
e. TOM: "The Adventures of Tom Bombadil," from The Tolkien Reader
f. RG: The Road Goes Ever On
g. BIL: Bilbo's Last Song
h. BLT1: The Book of Lost Tales I (The History of Middle-earth, Vol. 1)
i. BLT2: The Book of Lost Tales II (HoME, Vol. 2)
j. LB: The Lays of Beleriand (HoME, Vol. 3)
k. SME: The Shaping of Middle-earth (HoME, Vol. 4)
l. LR: The Lost Road (HoME, Vol. 5)
m. RS: The Return of the Shadow (HoME, Vol. 6)
n. TI: The Treason of Isengard (HoME, Vol. 7)
o. WR: The War of the Ring (HoME, Vol. 8)
p. SD or ETA: Sauron Defeated (or the shorter version, The End of the
Third Age) (HoME, vol. 9)
q. MR: Morgoth's Ring (HoME, Vol. 10)
r. WJ: The War of the Jewels (HoME, Vol. 11)
s. PME: The Peoples of Middle-earth (HoME, Vol. 12)

6) Which of the following movies have you seen? Please list using the
title abbreviations.

a. HOBA: The Hobbit, animated television film, dir. by Jules Bass and
Arthur Rankin, Jr. (1978)
b. LTRA: The Lord of the Rings, animated theatrical film, dir. by Ralph
Bakshi (1979)
c. RTKA: The Return of the King, animated televised film, dir. by Jules
Bass and Arthur Rankin, Jr. (1980)
d. FRM: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, dir. by Peter
Jackson (2001)
e. TTM: The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, dir. by Peter Jackson
(2002)
f. RTKM: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, dir. by Peter
Jackson (2003)

7) Which radio dramas or books on CD or tape have you listened to?

8) Which book, movie, or recording did you first read, watch, or listen
to?

9) Were these works in English or in another language?

10)Do you prefer the books, movies, or audio recordings?

11)Which books do you like the most? Why? Which do you dislike the most?
Why?

12)Which movies do you like the most? Why? Which do you dislike the
most? Why?

13)Which audio recordings do you like the most? Why? Which do you
dislike the most? Why?

14)What do you like or dislike most about Tolkien's works?

15)Why do you like or dislike Tolkien's works? What do they mean to
you?

DISCLAIMER: BY PARTICIPATING IN THIS SURVEY, YOU FULLY RELEASE
ANYCOPYRIGHT CLAIMS TO YOUR WRITTEN ANSWERS. I WILL HOLD ALL COPYRIGHT
TOTHESE WRITTEN ANSWERS AND MAY USE THEM IN ANYWAY AND IN ANY FORM
ICHOOSE



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We post all the latest happenings in gaming and for our Tolkien site
on the News page. Does anyone want the News to also be posted here?
The advantage would be that you could opt to have it emailed to you
instead of pulling up the guild site to check the News.

Feel free to post anything about Tolkien's works or Valar Guild gaming
here.
http://valarguild.proboards22.com/

Mostly we use live chat in-game or in AIM for Sunday meetings or even
email, plus a different forum without ad problems at
http://valarguild.proboards22.com/

At the Sunday live meeting, those with an opinion said they preferred
to check the News page on the web.

If you wish to post your Middle-earth stories or poetry here for
possible later inclusion in the Tolkien Site, feel free.

We have a very active kinship called Valar Guild operating in the Lord
of the Rings Online game, Landroval server.

Hail!

The Valar Guild is still an active organization, although this Yahoo area
appears fairly deserted. I still keep an eye on it.

Our usual forum now may be reached from our main website of
http://valarguild.org by clicking the word "Forum".

The same place takes you to our still active Tolkien Site. You can find my
contact info under Community/Membership/Varda.

Our main game is Lord of the Rings Online, on Landroval server. You can send me
a mail in-game to my main character: Fainan
or put the name on your Friend list and give me a whisper:
/w Fainan Heya!

We also play some World of Warcraft. In the Americas, our Alliance server is
Lothar and our Horde server is Uldaman. In Europe, we have a less active group
on Argent Dawn.

On Sundays at 5pm EST a few of us meet on AIM at Valar Guild Meetingplace.
Meeting Transcripts are linked on the News page of our website.

May your days leave you content,
Varda

Hail!
 
long time no see old friend!! how have things been with you? i am/was Thror-V
 tho it has been some time since i have talked to or seen any of the valar i
still play wow from time to time but not on the guild servers i am on
thrunderhorn or is it thunderhoof? i think its thunderhorn but in any case that
is where i am on wow most of the time (if i am on) i am also on msn im a lot!! i
have beed good for the most part and i am 22!! be 23 in october >_<" makes me
feel old  anywho hope to hear from you!!
 
you forgotten friend
 
Chubz (aka Thror-V)

--- On Wed, 5/20/09, varda_valar <varda.elentari@...> wrote:


From: varda_valar <varda.elentari@...>
Subject: [The Valar Guild] Activity
To: thevalarguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 4:28 AM








Hail!

The Valar Guild is still an active organization, although this Yahoo area
appears fairly deserted. I still keep an eye on it.

Our usual forum now may be reached from our main website of http://valarguild.
org by clicking the word "Forum".

The same place takes you to our still active Tolkien Site. You can find my
contact info under Community/Membershi p/Varda.

Our main game is Lord of the Rings Online, on Landroval server. You can send me
a mail in-game to my main character: Fainan
or put the name on your Friend list and give me a whisper:
/w Fainan Heya!

We also play some World of Warcraft. In the Americas, our Alliance server is
Lothar and our Horde server is Uldaman. In Europe, we have a less active group
on Argent Dawn.

On Sundays at 5pm EST a few of us meet on AIM at Valar Guild Meetingplace.
Meeting Transcripts are linked on the News page of our website.

May your days leave you content,
Varda



















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OK, it's been a while since I posted here, but I figured what the heck, and I
needed to make sure my yahoo account still worked :}

For those interested, here is a link to last week's (June 6th) meeting Tolkien
topic  on the Valar Guild's Forum :}

http://valarguild.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=discussion&action=display&thread\
=930

Take care all :}
May Elbereth's stars shine upon you :}

The Valar Guild is quite active still, even if not on this forum.

What do we do these days?

We continue to have AIM meetings every Sunday where we talk business and then
shift to Tolkien. Transcripts are online on the News under the Sunday Meeting.

We still add to the Tolkien Site and have a Games Site. Both are found under
http://valarguild.org

We game mostly in Lord of the Rings Online on Landroval server in the Americas
(internationals welcome!) and have a steady if small World of WarCraft guild in
the Americas on Lothar server for the Alliance. To experiment with Horde
characters we use Uldaman server.

My email is under News/Membership/Varda if you want to email to say say you're
active for 2011 or want to rejoin. Check the News page to see a bit of what's
going on. Also feel free to post your hello in the other Forum which is now the
current one, or weigh in on any of the topics there.

Namarie,
Varda