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Re: Theos-World Re.The Mahatma Letters.   Message List  
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Re: Theos-World Re.The Mahatma Letters.

GREETINGS,

I HAVE NOT MET HIM, BUT HAVE KNOWN SOME OF HIS DISCIPLES YEARS AGO.
ONE YOUNG MAN TOLD ME OF BEING SEXUALLY FONDLED BY HIM
FOR 'HEALING'. NOW APPARENTLY NUMEROUS PRESENT YOUTHS AND FORMER
MOLESTED YOUTHS HAVE COME FORWARD TELLING OF YEARS PEDOPHILIA
COMMITTED BY HIM....CONFIRMING EXACTLY WHAT THE YOUNG MAN TOLD ME. I
HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD BY HIS DISCIOPLES THAT THEY HAVE WITNESSED HIS
SLIGHT-OF-HAND 'MIRACLES'. AT THE WORLD HINDU CONFERENCE AND OTHER
OCCASIONS OF CLOSE ASSOCIATION WITH HINDU 'MIRACLE' WORKERS, I WAS
OFTEN ABLE TO DETECT THEIR TRICKERY. MOST OF IT WORKS BECAUSE OF
THEIR SUCCESSFUL ABILITY TO DISTRACT THEIR VIEWERS FROM THE REAL
CAUSE OF THE 'MIRACLE'.

SPEAKING OF 'MIRACLES', ABOUT A PREVIOUS POST HERE CONCERNING THE
LETTER BEHIND THE PICTURE...IF IT HAD A CLOTH OR PAPER BACKING ON IT,
AS MANY FRAMED PICTURES DO, A RAZOR SLICE COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO
CONSEAL THE LETTER, BY SLIPPING IT INSIDE OF THE FRAME, BEHIND THE
PICTURE UNDETECTED.

PRAYING FOR THE VICTIMS OF SUCH CHARLATANS AND MOLESTERS,

BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI
--- In theos-talk@y..., "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hi Brain and all of you,
>
> As "credentials" seems to have importance to you I have a question
to ask a
> question - although it is a little offline.
>
> What "credentials" do you (Brian) think the so-called Avatar guru
Sathya Sai
> Baba from Puttaparthi India has ?
> Has his life only been a fake since he left school 14 years old ?
> Have you ever meet the guy ?
> Has anyone on this list ? And what are their comments ?
>
>
> from
> M. Sufilight with great fun...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "brianmuehlbach" <brianmuehlbach@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 2:46 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re.The Mahatma Letters.
>
>
> > leonmaurer wrote: less and less sense to anyone who can THINK.
> >
> > Brian: An intelligent Theosophists who long left this list
although (in
> spite
> > of him not being on Theos talk) you keep addressing postings to
him,
> > Jerry, wrote me once on the list where he "really" is: "talking
to Leon
> > Maurer is like talking to a brick wall, but a prickly one."
> >
> > Seeing your post today, I must say Jerry Schueler is right.
> >
> > As for "credentials", I know they say yours are close to zero.
> >
> > Bhakti Anada Goswhami , I only know him from his letters, made
an
> > intelligent impression on me. As for his credentials, I looked
them up ,
> > see below.
> >
> > Reading it reminds me , after he left this list due to receiving
only
> > nitpikkers post , I really should write him and ask to come back
to write
> > the "Mahatma Letter" commentary he mentioned he might write at
first.
> >
> > He lives in India, an before becoming disabled by post-polio-
syndrome,
> > he lectured in the USA and overseas. He was the Mainland USA
> > Delegate to the 1982 academic and religious World Hindu
Conference co-
> > sponsored by the Governments of Tamil Nadu India and Sri Lanka,
and
> > held at the Summit of Non-Aligned Nations in Sri Lanka.
> >
> > While still on his college-contracted independent study tour, he
was
> > invited by the Prime Minister of Nepal Nagendra Prasad Rijal, to
sit on
> > the Executive Committee of the World Hindu Organization,
> > under the Patronage of King Birendra. And he worked on the
> > Organization's Nepal International Zone of Peace and Nuclear Non-
> > proliferation Non Governmental Organization platforms for the
United
> > Nations.
> >
> > He completed the oral presentation of his interdisciplinary
extended
> > master's degree in the history of religion, comparative religion
and
> > theology in the USA. However, he was hospitalized on a respirator
> > before he could complete the publication of his Thesis and obtain
his
> > Degree.
> >
> > In 1993, he was a Sponsor and Presenter at the Centennial World
> > Parliament of Religions in Chicago, USA. And in 2000, he gave a
West
> > Coast L.A. County Museum Tour and Lecture series on Egyptian,
Greek,
> > Jewish and Vaishnava connections in the pre-Christian Era. And
> > organized an exhibit tour at the L.A. County Museum "Pharaohs of
the
> > Sun" Exhibit.
> >
> > He was invited to present two papers on the subject of ancient
> > Vaishnava and Afro-Helleno-Semitic, Shaivite and Buddhist
connections
> > at the major World Association for Vedic Studies academic
conference
> > held at the Stevens Institute of Technology in late 2000, he
recieved
> > and actual ovation after his presentation, and not a single
scholar could
> > challenge either his evidence or his conclusions. There was a
full-page
> > article in the News-India Times about this.
> >
> > He gave up to a half-hour long, RBC Radio in India on such Days
and
> > Festivals as Maha Kumba Mela, Durga Puja, and Gita Jayanti to
hundreds
> > of thousands listeners.
> >
> > But due to polio muscle exhaustion, after his demanding two week
West
> > Coast Tour, he lost his ability to produce a voice for several
months. But
> > he next do an East Coast tour that began by presenting two of his
> > papers at the WAVES conference, followed by a two weeks tour.
> >
> > Last week his personal assistant (his daughter) wrote that it is
unlikely
> > that he will be able to attend the upcoming , World Association
for Vedic
> > Studies, he is currently also not able to do radio programs, and
suffers
> > periodic central vision loss.
> >
> > But he is not "made up" as you ,leonmaurer@a. claim, he is a real
> > person.
> >
> >
http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~muehleb9
> > --- In theos-talk@y..., leonmaurer@a... wrote:
> >
> > > >Brian : I posted clearly WHY the letters where typed in
> > > >all caps, I decided to do the most fair I could think of ,
give this
> > > obviously expert person, a voice. Without compromising his the
> > identity. > >Also Ars Inquisitor Daniel C. Caldwell showed not to
be
> > capable to address ANY of the issuis brought up by B.A.G.
Meaning one
> > must conclude Daniel C. Caldwell must really know he is defending
a
> > cococted fake in case of The Mahatma letters. In any case since
> > B.A.G .has come forward and identified himself, I have placed
two of
> > his letters On-line:
> > > >
> > > >
http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~muehleb9/lettersed.html
> > > >
> > > >
http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~muehleb9/resp.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >




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Hi Brain and all of you, As "credentials" seems to have importance to you I have a question to ask a question - although it is a little offline. What...
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GREETINGS, I HAVE NOT MET HIM, BUT HAVE KNOWN SOME OF HIS DISCIPLES YEARS AGO. ONE YOUNG MAN TOLD ME OF BEING SEXUALLY FONDLED BY HIM FOR 'HEALING'. NOW...
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I DONT THINK THAT THE PERSONAL TESTIMONIES OF MANY MOLESTED YOUTHS ARE RUMORS. I WOULD NOT HAVE REPEATED MERE RUMORS. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. ... a guy ... ...
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... Leon ... Sounds good to me. A brick wall does not interrupt, does not argue with me, does not dismiss what I have to say, and gives an impression of...
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