Steve answerred regarding Daniel's question Olcott's description
about "the Masters", that produced flowers out of nowhere and made it
rain in Olcott's apartment:

In this quote we see evidence of herbs burning, herbs
contained within a lacquered case which was held to
Olcott's nose, visual hallucinations, tactile
hallucinations (the room was wet), profuse sweating,
time distortion, loss of consciousness, cognitive
impairment, and stupefaction. Can any reasonable
person read this story and believe that there were no
botanical products involved in this wonder?
Especially interesting is that these drugs are the
means of "the production of flowers as the adepts do
it." That clearly indicates that they used these
substances to produce visual hallucinations and
presumably insights.

"We took cigars. ... I was stupefied. ... They sat
there and quietly smoked their cigars. ... I just sat
and looked at them in a sort of stupid daze. They
seemed to enjoy my surprise. ... Then the elder man
took out of his pocket a painted lacquered case. ...
The box exhaled a strong spicy aromatic odor much like
sandal wood but still not just that. Whatever I
wished to see, he said I need simply think of. ...
When I seemed to be growing inquisitive, some power
prevented my seeing anything. ... I stood transfixed
looking from one to another in dumb amazement. ...
Madam said, ... 'What's the matter? You must be
crazy.' ... Madam said they had been with her for more
than an hour. ... In a half hour from the time the two
men left, there was not a drop of moisture in the room
nor a shade of dampness to indicate that there had
been a shower."

Brigitte: I think Steve's observation is valid for the case under
discussion. It doesn't need references of other authors that don't
refer to the above particular case merely to side-track the issue at
hand.

I don't think the intention of Steve was to accuse anyone.
Steve only was responding to DANIEL's question, namely, how
to make sense of the Ootan Liatto story.

I think Steve did that with the above, so I think it best if Daniel
simple and honestly responds to the above, so we can have a
conclusion on the Ootan Liatto story.
Brigitte