DVD's, who what when where why and how?

Jon
Ralph says 'which?'

> Um, yes there will be special features.  They will be limited
> though.  The DVDs will have character biographies and a "behind the
> scenes" look that mainly covers the animation process.  What
exactly
> it will be like is anyone's guess.

Oh I must've missed that. :-) Still for me it's not really enough to
shell out the cash. Plus I'd have to pay a bit extra for shipping,
since I live in the UK. What can I say, I'm a cheapskate.

Cora.

--- In thenewraccoons@yahoogroups.com, "cora_cartmell"
<cora_cartmell@y...> wrote:
> It's good to see the Raccoons finally getting a DVD release. It's
> tragic there will be no extra features though. Imagine interviews
> with the cast, Kevin Gillis, artists, etc. That would've been
> great. :-(
>
> So I think considering the no special features deal we're going to
be
> getting I'll just stick with my VHS tapes. I've got all the eps in
> great quality condition so I don't really need the DVDs anyway.
>
> Cora.

Um, yes there will be special features.  They will be limited
though.  The DVDs will have character biographies and a "behind the
scenes" look that mainly covers the animation process.  What exactly
it will be like is anyone's guess.

It's good to see the Raccoons finally getting a DVD release. It's
tragic there will be no extra features though. Imagine interviews
with the cast, Kevin Gillis, artists, etc. That would've been
great. :-(

So I think considering the no special features deal we're going to be
getting I'll just stick with my VHS tapes. I've got all the eps in
great quality condition so I don't really need the DVDs anyway.

Cora.

I probably wouldn't hold out too much hope for deleted scenes, due once again to the studio's bankruptcy. Considering how tricky it's been to find animation cels from the series --despite there being 60 episodes-- I'd think it even less likely to see anything that ended up on the cutting room floor, especially this long after the fact. It's possible that a master tape might have something, but it's a pretty long shot.

For some reason the Morningstar link just yields an error when you try and visit it; the Amazon link doesn't tell much of anything about the DVD either. Some interesting info on the Lane site however, and hopefully this release is only the first of many. It'd be a shame if they were to limit DVD release to only those episodes that were produced earlier on VHS by Embassy and Children's Treasures (as so far seems to be the case). Then again, those were also the first several eps from Hinton I think... as these are, so hopefully that's the only reason they opted for this batch first.

Cheers (and there's much reason for it lately Justin!)

Matt

 

 

--------- Original Message ---------

DATE: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:56:00

From: "The missing Mighty Orbot" <thelastorbot@...>

To: thenewraccoons@yahoogroups.com

Cc:

Any speculation on what those "behind the scenes" segments may be
that we'll see on the DVD release of the Raccoons?  The brief
description on the Morning Star Entertainment page only
said "animation process".  But what could this mean?  Maybe some
footage of the animation studio with the animators, writers, and
other creative staff producing the show?  Or maybe some brief
interviews with the original staff about their memories working on
the show?  Will we see Kevin Gillis?

It sounds good and all, but I wouldn't mind seeing some more special
features.  An audio commentary track with Gillis would be cool or
even an interview.  I'd love to actually hear his voice and have him
tell us all about the Raccoons and how he thought them up.  Or maybe
some deleted scenes would be a cool idea.  I know that it sometimes
does occur in animation that a work runs too long and they have to
trim it for broadcast on TV.  I'm sure that there may be deleted
scenes of the Raccoons out there that didn't make the final cut. 
What could they be?  (Somehow I doubt that it would be Cyril Sneer
using a Richard Simmons robot against Bert, Ralph, and Melissa.)




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--- In thenewraccoons@yahoogroups.com, "The missing Mighty Orbot"
<thelastorbot@e...> wrote:
> This was prompted by one of the last posts, but I'd like to hear
> more about this.  When Bently Raccoon and his family actually moved
> into the Evergreen Forest in 1990, do you think it was a good thing
> or did it hurt the series?
>
> Before then, Bentley was simply a visitor (making official
> and "unofficial" visits), once bringing his sister along with him.
> Neither of their parents, George or Nicole, visited, only appearing
> in flashbacks.  But could Bentley's actual living in the forest
hurt
> the show?  The episodes of 1990-1991 did deal somewhat with Bentley
> and Lisa, showing them adjusting to life and running into the
> challenges of growing up (like bullies or peer pressure).  But I
> think that was a good thing.  I doubt they stole the show from Bert
> and friends, since they did play a role in helping them out with
> their problems.

Interesting question. :-) I always actually liked Bentley and Family.
With Bentley and Lisa, the writers could tackle some of the issues
that younger kids and teenagers go through, like the smoking episode.
That's a good one. And to me the best thing about Bentley and Lisa
was that they were fairly reaslitic, Bentley often whined and Lisa
wasn't always a goody two shoes who was all "Yes Ma'am" "Yes Sir"
with her parents. I liked that.

Really I don't see how they could've hurt the show...did the ratings
drop when those characters were brought it or something?

Cora.

Any speculation on what those "behind the scenes" segments may be
that we'll see on the DVD release of the Raccoons?  The brief
description on the Morning Star Entertainment page only
said "animation process".  But what could this mean?  Maybe some
footage of the animation studio with the animators, writers, and
other creative staff producing the show?  Or maybe some brief
interviews with the original staff about their memories working on
the show?  Will we see Kevin Gillis?

It sounds good and all, but I wouldn't mind seeing some more special
features.  An audio commentary track with Gillis would be cool or
even an interview.  I'd love to actually hear his voice and have him
tell us all about the Raccoons and how he thought them up.  Or maybe
some deleted scenes would be a cool idea.  I know that it sometimes
does occur in animation that a work runs too long and they have to
trim it for broadcast on TV.  I'm sure that there may be deleted
scenes of the Raccoons out there that didn't make the final cut.
What could they be?  (Somehow I doubt that it would be Cyril Sneer
using a Richard Simmons robot against Bert, Ralph, and Melissa.)

This was prompted by one of the last posts, but I'd like to hear
more about this.  When Bently Raccoon and his family actually moved
into the Evergreen Forest in 1990, do you think it was a good thing
or did it hurt the series?

Before then, Bentley was simply a visitor (making official
and "unofficial" visits), once bringing his sister along with him.
Neither of their parents, George or Nicole, visited, only appearing
in flashbacks.  But could Bentley's actual living in the forest hurt
the show?  The episodes of 1990-1991 did deal somewhat with Bentley
and Lisa, showing them adjusting to life and running into the
challenges of growing up (like bullies or peer pressure).  But I
think that was a good thing.  I doubt they stole the show from Bert
and friends, since they did play a role in helping them out with
their problems.

I'm sure most of you 20somethings know how precious time is. I really
miss having discussion on the Raccoons, and it seems that so much has
been going on since the last time I was able to post on the old
group. My only option is to bunch my pennies into a nifty digest.

So, new group, eh? The title "new raccoons" is what I often
personally use to refer later episodes of the series when we were
introduced to a whole bunch of new characters via Bentley's family. I
sensed that had the original series continued, the focus would have
slowly shifted from the Raccoondominium to these newbies. Somebody
higher up on the production hierarchy wanted the series to focus on a
family. Watching the newer eps. made me feel like Bert and company
were becoming more regarded as secondary characters.

But we know the real reason for the groups name. In the future, I
sincerely hope there is no comparisons being made between this group
and its predecessor. Just a suggestion to Orbot and Vincent (Forgive
me if I find ironic humor in your signing up as a co-moderator), I
tried looking for this group in the Yahoo catalog by typing in "the
raccoons" with no luck. I'm assuming that new members are going to
find their way into the old group first. Maybe you might want to post
at the old group once in a while to let everyone there know about the
move. And while the old group has been tainted by spam, I still
believe that there are a few respectable members still lingering on
that group. Perhaps it would be only fair if we could wrap up
discussion here in a digest and send it there once in a while?

Politics aside, there is much cause for celebration here. Our beloved
show has finally come back for the genuine consideration of its
public. Tuesday's the day. Everyone make sure to wear their favorite
oversized yellow-on-red "B" sweaters to mark the occasion. :D But
seriously folks, spread the word, tell your friends, rekindle their
memories. This show is like no-other on the planet! It is interseting
to note that the DVD releases contain episodes from the second season
exclusively: Episodes 12-20 respectively. These were the first to be
made at Hinton studios after the producers decided to break away from
Atkinson Film Arts where the specials and the first eleven eps. were
made. Alot of changes occured between these products. Lisa Loughreed
was hired and alot of the songs were re-recorded with her, including
the series outro "Run With Us". Animation Director Paul Schibli was
promoted to co-director and the character designs were slightly
modifyed (IE: Bert's nose getting shorter, his sweater no longer
loose fitting, but snug). Susan Roman was also hired at this time to
replace Linda Feige as the voice of Melissa. I believe this had alot
to do with Melissa's character becoming more self-confident. I wonder
if they chose to release these eps. because Embassy only relased the
first season? At any rate, I am glad since 3 of these nine I have
never seen before. And special features "Behind the Scenes"! I quiver
in anticipation.

Somebody posted that "The Nutcracker Prince" also made it onto a DVD
release. Does Warner Bros. still maintain the distribution rights to
that film or was it released by someone else? I had a hard time
finding that film a few years back, I thought it was long out of
print. However this movie is a fine product. It was made by the
Hinton folks and small voice parts were done by all the Raccoons
folks. Len Carlson never fails to amaze me with his voice talent (Dig
the King in the fairy tale sequence). I highly recommend this movie
to any fan of the Raccoons. This is what quality the Raccoons folks
were fast becoming capable of and truly a dignifyed plateau in
Canadian animation.

For the record, my favorite character is also Bert. C'mon! Bert's my
hero. I find it so cute to see a character have so much self-
confidence and will to do such amazing things, and all with this
demeanor that tell others he is quite down to earth, as if he sub-
consciously knows that while he may not be Neil Armstrong (yet) he's
still one of the gang and someone who cares greatly for the persons
that love him. His energy seems insurmountable (is it the peanut
butter, or what?) and there's something almost epical and romantic
about his love for adventure. In times of boredom, I often ask, what
would Bert do?

Cyril comes in a close second. For all the differences between Bert
and Cyril, it amazes me how he can come off as a cool character, but
man is he ever! He's...just...SO...FUNNNNY!!! He gave me my first 101
in wisecracking and satire and his mature overtone makes the show
overall more colorful and lets you know full well that it's not just
for kids. Bert and Cryil are like the whole catalyst for the show.
They are by far the most active characters and their
protagonist/antagonist relationship provide many a scenario for the
imaginative at heart. You simply cannot have a Raccoons ep. without
these two.

I think I've covered most ground for now, so for those of you growing
impatient with reading all of this I will bow out now and head off
for work (I'm twenty minutes late now ;D ). Not sure when I'll have
this kind of time again, but 'til then folks, here's to the Raccoons.

Cheers, (I know, thats Matt's thing...)
Justin.

Racs on DVD-it's time to die(I don't think I'll see anything better
in ma life)
Here're the polish voices-part 2
As the voice of Lisa-Patrycja Markowska(HEAVY METAL VOCALIST-daughter
of Grzegorz Markowski from band"Perfect")

Just a second...I've got new info...



I've got some good news. My older bra just finished copying some
(illegal of course)CD's with Polish soundtrack.Ya can call me
pirate,but is there anybody who'd like to have this stuff absolutely
free?

P.S.my first fic's comin...

the NTSC VHS format that North America uses won't work
in European machines, which use PAL format. You'd have
an easier time finding a DVD player that plays both
Zones 1 and 2 than finding a VCR that plays both NTSC
and PAL...

  --- Michael Wallace <and_so_it_goes_on@...>
wrote:
---------------------------------
\o/ Just spotted the VHS versions on amazon.ca, I just
hope I can afford the
shipping!

Mike

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The one listed is a 3 pack for 29.95. So you are getting 9 epsodes at 25
mins each. Individual disks are 9.95.

Mini Skunk
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodney" <Rodney@...>
To: <thenewraccoons@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:30 AM
Subject: [thenewraccoons] DVD WHHOOO HOOOOO

> Im very glad to see that the DVD is being released.. unfortuantely,
> will it be one of these $20 for 3 episondes things, meaning its going
> to cost $400 for the series, not including the artwork, interviews,
> bios, music tracks, videaos, specials, etc, etc 8(
>

\o/ Just spotted the VHS versions on amazon.ca, I just hope I can afford the
shipping!

Mike

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Great news!

I hope you North Americans know how lucky you are, guess us Brits will have
to wait for region 2 encoded DVDs :(

Enjoy!

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>
> Um, couple of things.. Im afraid the files list is public
posting?..
> Wont the spammers still get onto this at the moment? ..Wasnt the
file
> list on the old list moderated?
>
Don't you worry about the spammers.  I'll deal with them, their
posts, and anything they may put in the links or files.

> Im very glad to see that the DVD is being released..
unfortuantely,
> will it be one of these $20 for 3 episondes things, meaning its
going
> to cost $400 for the series, not including the artwork,
interviews,
> bios, music tracks, videaos, specials, etc, etc 8(
>
I don't think so.  I found a page mentioning the DVDs here:
http://joshualane.gearhost.net/news.asp?TID=1095

The price listed in US dollars may very well be the suggested retail
price when the DVDs come to the US.  If you're in another country,
then I'm not sure how you could calculate the prices.


> I use a R0 DVD in my computer.. Why will the software not let me
> access all discs as R0?
>
Ah, R0 is universal coding, a region free DVD that can be played in
any DVD player.  Is this thing you're talking about a R0 DVD drive?
I'm not sure how that works.  I thought that only the discs
themselves could have R0 coding to allow play on any DVD player in
the world.

> I hope that a vioce for Cedric has been found, at least along the
> same lines as the departed origional artist (Sigh.. I wish my
memory
> was half as good as a goldfish 8( )
>
> Found an interesting DVD the other day.. The Nutcracker Prince.
> Animated by Hinton Studios, Produced by Kevin Gillis, Directed by
> Paul Schibli, starring Susan Roman and Len Carlson (?) (Yes sir,
yes
> sir 8) ), and with a pair of characters called Mr an Mrs
Scheaffer.
> Created in 1990.
>
> Well, I think it was made by the Raccoons crew, but Ill have a
more
> careful read of the creadits to make sure 8)
>
> Making a full movie release can be worrying though. Anne
McCafferey
> had the Dragons of Pern ready to go, all the digital squads
arranged,
> the full size! animatronic dragons built, but, because she wouldnt
> let the studio screw up the storyline, Ie, making it yet another
> Xena, the studio, Canceled the whole project.
>
> I hope that the Raccoons dont get dragged down the same way.
>
> RodTerl

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Runs around wavng a half eaten peanut butter an jelly sandwhich in
the air, till brought to rapid halt by misplacement of tree.

WHAM.. @.@

I see stars.. Bert, Raplh, Mellissa, Cyril?  8)

Grin 8)

Um, couple of things.. Im afraid the files list is public posting?..
Wont the spammers still get onto this at the moment? ..Wasnt the file
list on the old list moderated?

Im very glad to see that the DVD is being released.. unfortuantely,
will it be one of these $20 for 3 episondes things, meaning its going
to cost $400 for the series, not including the artwork, interviews,
bios, music tracks, videaos, specials, etc, etc 8(

I use a R0 DVD in my computer.. Why will the software not let me
access all discs as R0?

I hope that a vioce for Cedric has been found, at least along the
same lines as the departed origional artist (Sigh.. I wish my memory
was half as good as a goldfish 8( )

Found an interesting DVD the other day.. The Nutcracker Prince.
Animated by Hinton Studios, Produced by Kevin Gillis, Directed by
Paul Schibli, starring Susan Roman and Len Carlson (?) (Yes sir, yes
sir 8) ), and with a pair of characters called Mr an Mrs Scheaffer.
Created in 1990.

Well, I think it was made by the Raccoons crew, but Ill have a more
careful read of the creadits to make sure 8)

Making a full movie release can be worrying though. Anne McCafferey
had the Dragons of Pern ready to go, all the digital squads arranged,
the full size! animatronic dragons built, but, because she wouldnt
let the studio screw up the storyline, Ie, making it yet another
Xena, the studio, Canceled the whole project.

I hope that the Raccoons dont get dragged down the same way.

RodTerl

As the last Concorde taxied to its hanger, the Controller spoke.

The Eagles have landed, Welcome home.

The times of dreams, myths, legends, has past. Now, we live in
desperation.

Yes, for the first time, it will be released
theatrically. More info to come. As for the DVD, there
is also an American partner who will be releasing in
the States (at a later date, I believe, in early 04)
but chances are you'd get a better deal ordering from
Morningstar in Canada, what with the dollar...though
it's not such a great exchange anymore, it would still
work out to be cheaper, I'm sure.

  --- The missing Mighty Orbot <thelastorbot@...>
wrote:
---------------------------------
--- In thenewraccoons@yahoogroups.com, madeleinegirl
<madeleinegirl@y...> wrote:
> There you go...I don't start rumours :-)...you'll
just
> have to trust me. The DVD artwork got finished
earlier
> than expected I guess...they managed a release
before
> Christmas! The new movie, for those who choose to
> believe (and yes, it's true) is also in production,
> also with the CBC in Canada.
>

YES!  YES!  The Raccoons are coming to DVD.

I'm curious about this movie that's in production with
the
Raccoons.  Anyone have more info about it?  Is it
going to be a
theatrical release?  Or direct to video/DVD?

Without a doubt, this box set of the Raccoons will be
available in
Canada.  But will it be distributed in the United
States too?  Just
in case it isn't, American fans like me can order it
from Canada and
it would run on our DVD players since both Canada and
USA utilize
region 1 DVD coding.



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O.K.here's somethin' for real fanz(are there any:)
The list of people voice playin' in polish dubbing version of the
Raccoons:
As the voice of Bert-Jan Borysewicz(leader of rock band Lady Pank-
livin' legend,also singin'few songs in our version of show)
As I wrote as the voice of Melissa-Urszula,first lady of polish pop
(as I remember,in early nineties she sung a bit in US as Ursula)
Ralphie-boy's voice is also a popular vocalist - Paweł "Red
raccoon"Kukiz(also singin in formation "Piersi"(eng. "knockers":)In
1999 he sung in his videoclip in Big Apple,sung was "Kiss a stranger")
I've got lil' time so rest of voices in next mail
P.S.Lost Orbot -Bert's really cool guy but my favourites are Melissa
and Lisa.I love hard psyche women(Probably if I were a raccoon I'd do
even bad,bad things to meet her)

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--- In thenewraccoons@yahoogroups.com, madeleinegirl
<madeleinegirl@y...> wrote:
> There you go...I don't start rumours :-)...you'll just
> have to trust me. The DVD artwork got finished earlier
> than expected I guess...they managed a release before
> Christmas! The new movie, for those who choose to
> believe (and yes, it's true) is also in production,
> also with the CBC in Canada.
>

YES!  YES!  The Raccoons are coming to DVD.

I'm curious about this movie that's in production with the
Raccoons.  Anyone have more info about it?  Is it going to be a
theatrical release?  Or direct to video/DVD?

Without a doubt, this box set of the Raccoons will be available in
Canada.  But will it be distributed in the United States too?  Just
in case it isn't, American fans like me can order it from Canada and
it would run on our DVD players since both Canada and USA utilize
region 1 DVD coding.

There you go...I don't start rumours :-)...you'll just
have to trust me. The DVD artwork got finished earlier
than expected I guess...they managed a release before
Christmas! The new movie, for those who choose to
believe (and yes, it's true) is also in production,
also with the CBC in Canada.

--- Mateo Rojo <mateo102583@...> wrote:
---------------------------------
--- In thenewraccoons@yahoogroups.com, "madeleinegirl"

<madeleinegirl@y...> wrote:
> No longer necessary...you'll all be pleased to hear
that a DVD
> release has been confirmed...as early as early
2004...to coincide
> with a new Raccoons feature to be released!! More
details to come...
>
Holy crap, I think this is legitimate. Check it out:
http://www.morningstarent.com/productdetails.cgi?productid=3112

Could it be?

Mateo Rojo [?]



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--- In thenewraccoons@yahoogroups.com, "madeleinegirl"
<madeleinegirl@y...> wrote:
> No longer necessary...you'll all be pleased to hear that a DVD
> release has been confirmed...as early as early 2004...to coincide
> with a new Raccoons feature to be released!! More details to come...
>
Holy crap, I think this is legitimate. Check it out:
http://www.morningstarent.com/productdetails.cgi?productid=3112

Could it be?

Mateo Rojo [?]

wow, never seen a digest number 0 before :)

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--- In thenewraccoons@yahoogroups.com, "madeleinegirl"
<madeleinegirl@y...> wrote:
> No longer necessary...you'll all be pleased to hear that a DVD
> release has been confirmed...as early as early 2004...to coincide
> with a new Raccoons feature to be released!! More details to come...
>
As Fox Mulder would say, "I want to believe." Do you think you could
give us something else, such as a link to an article or the such? I'd
hate to get my hopes up for nothing. ::looks up at stars:: The truth
is out there.

Mateo Rojo [?]

--- In thenewraccoons@yahoogroups.com, "madeleinegirl"
<madeleinegirl@y...> wrote:
> No longer necessary...you'll all be pleased to hear that a DVD
> release has been confirmed...as early as early 2004...to coincide
> with a new Raccoons feature to be released!! More details to
come...
>
>

Hmmm.....unless I hear a source on this, I'm just going to have to
file this in the "unconfirmed rumors".  I'll put it in along with
unwashed aviator's scarf and half-eaten peanut butter sandwich...

No longer necessary...you'll all be pleased to hear that a DVD
release has been confirmed...as early as early 2004...to coincide
with a new Raccoons feature to be released!! More details to come...

--- In thenewraccoons@yahoogroups.com, "The missing Mighty Orbot"
<thelastorbot@e...> wrote:
> I'm just announcing to everyone that our petition to get the
> Raccoons specials and TV series onto DVD has now reached the 200
> mark.  That is excellent but there are still more needed.  Get
> people to sign the petition please!

Times to jumpstart some conversation in this new group.  So let's
talk about the character we found the most interesting.  Whom do you
think was the most interesting character in the Raccoons and why?

The answer for me is Bert Raccoon.  I think it's really fascinating
how Bert shows so much energy, enthusiasm, and confidence (or
overconfidence) on the outside but inside he sometimes doubts
himself and he frequently feels a need to be accepted.  Hence that's
why Bert got really bothered when he let his friends down (like
in "Promises, Promises").  This kind of character, I think, is
representative of Everyman, because there are alot of us who act
like Bert being extroverts on the outside but introverted on the
inside.  I have to admit that Kevin Gillis really did a good job
when he created this character and gave Bert that particular
personality.  It kind of makes you wonder if Bert Raccoon was based
on an actual person or maybe even Gillis himself.

New group?How sweet...
O.K.I'll try to don't write spam (it'll be hard)
Plese don't kick me out,maybe punk point of view ain't so bad...
A zresztą co wy kurwa wiecie o zabijaniu?! Wy stare dupy jesteście!
It was quote from legendar polish action movie"D.O.G.s."
I had to write it:)
Come on,people I wanna see (sick)smile on your face

RACCOONS RULES
Amen

I'm just announcing to everyone that our petition to get the
Raccoons specials and TV series onto DVD has now reached the 200
mark.  That is excellent but there are still more needed.  Get
people to sign the petition please!

Free at last! Free at last! God Almightly, we are free at last from
porno spam!

Mateo Rojo [?]

Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!  We're so glad
you could attend, come inside, come inside...

This is the new mailing list for the Raccoons TV series.  I want to
welcome the members of the old mailing list and anyone else that
wants to join is welcome too.  BTW, this is a moderated group.  To
deal with spam and spammers, I will delete such messages.  But I'm
going to need some assistance.  I will soon pick out moderators to
help filter out messages.  So keep your eyes and ears open.  I may
need you.