Do what thou wilt
Shall be the whole of the Law.

For those interested in the formalities of the Gnostic Mass might be
interested in

http://channels.real.com/vram/single?programs=72&tcode=72

Oyez Oyes Oyez

Love is the
law, love under will.

David R. Jones aka ^333^

At 02:02 PM 12/1/00 -0800, Jones, David R. wrote:
>For those interested in the formalities of the Gnostic Mass might be
>interested in
>
>http://channels.real.com/vram/single?programs=72&tcode=72

What is it? I went to the URL and it started asking me how I wanted to open
an executable file so I quickly closed the window.

Agape,
Magda

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At 02:02 PM 12/1/00 -0800, Jones, David R. wrote:
>For those interested in the formalities of the Gnostic Mass might be
>interested in
>
>http://channels.real.com/vram/single?programs=72&tcode=72

What is it? I went to the URL and it started asking me how I wanted to open
an executable file so I quickly closed the window.

Agape,
Magda

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> > simon leah = on slime, ah!
> >
> > couldn't resit sorry
>
> that's okay, after all, slime  = elixir!!!!! yeah!!!! thank you!
>
> lol
> leah

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,

Absinthe is really easy to make.  All you need to do is ferment some
wormwood, as in distill.  Wormwood is legal, but making alcohol without a
license is illegal.  To the Green Goddess!

It can also be tinctured, and then mixed with various herbs to kill the
bitter flavour of the wormwood.  Just in case anyone on the list is
considering using this drug (except for those that already have) be warned
that it is extremely bitter, and the toxins that get you off (called
tropates) can build up in the body, leading to eventual permanent psycosis.

> http://www.mcs.net/~mikei/absinthe/goddess.htm

Avaryce

Love is the law, love under will.

Avaryce wrote:

> Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,
>
> Absinthe is really easy to make.  All you need to do is ferment some
> wormwood, as in distill.  Wormwood is legal, but making alcohol
> without a
> license is illegal.  To the Green Goddess!
>
> It can also be tinctured, and then mixed with various herbs to kill
> the
> bitter flavour of the wormwood.  Just in case anyone on the list is
> considering using this drug (except for those that already have) be
> warned
> that it is extremely bitter, and the toxins that get you off (called
> tropates) can build up in the body, leading to eventual permanent
> psycosis.
>
> > http://www.mcs.net/~mikei/absinthe/goddess.htm
>
> Avaryce
>

    If I would have had my way Salvia Divinorum at the meditative doses
would have been the choice sacrament in a certain degree of H.O.O.R.
where it would have served as a unique replacement for the Absinthe that
was being used in a particular grade of some other Order which I will
not name.

   Love,

   Panoptes


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In thelema93-l@egroups.com, "Avaryce" <avaryce@m...> wrote:
> Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,
>
> Absinthe is really easy to make.  All you need to do is ferment some
> wormwood, as in distill.  Wormwood is legal, but making alcohol
without a
> license is illegal.

Huh?  I was thinking it was legal to make alcohol.  For personal use,
a little could be made legally, right?  Lots of people make beer and
wine.  Sherry, Brandy, Rum...blah blah.  Kahlua is good too!  What
Country are you in, anyway?  Your spelling suggests other than USA.

>To the Green Goddess!
>
> It can also be tinctured, and then mixed with various herbs to kill
the
> bitter flavour of the wormwood.  Just in case anyone on the list is
> considering using this drug (except for those that already have) be
warned
> that it is extremely bitter, and the toxins that get you off (called
> tropates) can build up in the body, leading to eventual permanent
psycosis.

If that's like an Alkaloid, then yes it builds up.  Alkaloids build
up in nervous system.  Not good over the long haul definitely.

K.T.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/absinthe/absinthe.shtml

> > Absinthe is really easy to make.  All you need to do is ferment some
> > wormwood, as in distill.  Wormwood is legal, but making alcohol
> without a
> > license is illegal.
>
> Huh?  I was thinking it was legal to make alcohol.  For personal use,
> a little could be made legally, right?  Lots of people make beer and
> wine.  Sherry, Brandy, Rum...blah blah.  Kahlua is good too!  What
> Country are you in, anyway?  Your spelling suggests other than USA.

I'm Canadian.  Winnipeg, Manitoba.  It's been a while since I read the info
on absinthe from the link above, but from it I got the impression that, in
the U.S., you need a license to distill alcohol.  I'm not sure what the
powder you can buy in the supermarket qualifies as.


Love is the law, love under will,
Cameron

>> Huh?  I was thinking it was legal to make alcohol.  For personal use,
>> a little could be made legally, right?  Lots of people make beer and
>> wine.  Sherry, Brandy, Rum...blah blah.  Kahlua is good too!  What
>> Country are you in, anyway?  Your spelling suggests other than USA.
>
>I'm Canadian.  Winnipeg, Manitoba.  It's been a while since I read the info
>on absinthe from the link above, but from it I got the impression that, in
>the U.S., you need a license to distill alcohol.  I'm not sure what the
>powder you can buy in the supermarket qualifies as.
>

Cameron is quite right about distilling alcohol (brandies, whiskeys, vodkas,
etc.). Fermented alcohols (beers, wines, hard ciders, etc. ) are legal for
personal/family use. A still, even a small one, requires a license from the
government (ATF, specifically) or else the revenooers can confiscate/destroy
it.

You might need to check the legal status of the wormwood...it is illegal to
import beverages made with it, and illegal to sell them. Migtht be illegal
to make them, but I am not sure.

Paul

--- In thelema93-l@egroups.com, "cameron" <cbailes@h...> wrote:
> Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,
>
> http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/absinthe/absinthe.shtml
>
> > > Absinthe is really easy to make.  All you need to do is ferment
some
> > > wormwood, as in distill.  Wormwood is legal, but making alcohol
> > without a
> > > license is illegal.
> >
> > Huh?  I was thinking it was legal to make alcohol.  For personal
use,
> > a little could be made legally, right?  Lots of people make beer
and
> > wine.  Sherry, Brandy, Rum...blah blah.  Kahlua is good too!  What
> > Country are you in, anyway?  Your spelling suggests other than
USA.
>
> I'm Canadian.  Winnipeg, Manitoba.  It's been a while since I read
the info
> on absinthe from the link above, but from it I got the impression
that, in
> the U.S., you need a license to distill alcohol.  I'm not sure what
the
> powder you can buy in the supermarket qualifies as.

I guess `distill' is the operative word, then.  In that case I'm not
sure.  Beer and wine don't qualify and neither does Sherry or Kahlua
(they're mixtures.)  Applejack, doesn't have to be distilled though,
and it's quite high in alcohol (the alcohol being the only thing
doesn't freeze after the cider is fermented.)

Anyway, what powder in the grocery store?

K.T.

--- In thelema93-l@egroups.com, "Paul  R. Hume" <paulhume@l...> wrote:

> Cameron is quite right about distilling alcohol (brandies,
whiskeys, vodkas,
> etc.). Fermented alcohols (beers, wines, hard ciders, etc. ) are
legal for
> personal/family use. >A still, even a small one, requires a license
from the
> government (ATF, specifically) or else the revenooers can
confiscate/destroy
> it.

So much for those plans ;-)

> You might need to check the legal status of the wormwood...it is
illegal to
> import beverages made with it, and illegal to sell them.

That I've heard.  Wasn't it this time last year that this came up?

>Migtht be illegal to make them, but I am not sure.

Me neither.

K.T.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,

> I guess `distill' is the operative word, then.  In that case I'm not
> sure.  Beer and wine don't qualify and neither does Sherry or Kahlua
> (they're mixtures.)  Applejack, doesn't have to be distilled though,
> and it's quite high in alcohol (the alcohol being the only thing
> doesn't freeze after the cider is fermented.)
>
> Anyway, what powder in the grocery store?

I assume some American supermarkets carry the stuff too.  It's a powder or
syrupy liquid that is used to make wine and beer.  Add purified water, let
sit for three weeks and you're ready to drink yourself under the table.  Ive
never made it before, but some friends of mine have.  They found a way into
the attic of my old high school where, in about a year, they made hundreds
of litres of wine.  As Canadian youths are known to say, it was
unfucking-believable.

Otheriwse, I think brandy is easy to make, add sugar to wine and let sit.
Absinthe, I am sure, is illegal to produce and certainly to distribute.  I'm
sure a university or horticulturalist would carry seeds or roots.

Supposedly Van Gohe was a drinker of absinthe, probably an abuser.


Love is the law, love under will,
Cameron

>Otheriwse, I think brandy is easy to make, add sugar to wine and let sit.


Psst...that's more like a fortified or sweetened wine...most wine won't even
have live yeast to turn the sugar into alcohol, though as you note you can
add more yeast. That's still only going to give you more of a rotgut sherry
or port. Brandy is distilled wine, "spirituous liquor," with alcohol far
higher than any fermentation process can reach.

Hey what's wrong with Canada?

You anti-Canadian, failed N. American, brain dead, poser who has deep emotiOnal
problems,
didn't pass the first grade, dogs hate you,the Gods dispise you, and you should
just be
shot...if only you loved Canada I'd give you a free yacht!


--- Ienpu <Ienpu@...> wrote:
> Ever notice that on this list if your pro-coto, your a
> Jolly good fellow, the Gods smile on you, Truth comes
> from your mouth, everything you touch turns to gold,
> and your mind is like a supercomputer. But...if you
> are anti, or say anything bad about the coto your
> brain dead, poser who has deep emotinal problems,
> didn't pass the first grade, dogs hate you,the Gods
> dispise you and you should just be shot or shiped to
> Canada. (shudder)

> Make's ya go Hmmmmmmm..
> Ienpu


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>

In the words of Trey Parker: Blame Canada! Blame Canada!

In a message dated 12/1/00 9:39:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, xciii@...
writes:

> > You might need to check the legal status of the wormwood...it is
>  illegal to
>  > import beverages made with it, and illegal to sell them.
>
>  That I've heard.  Wasn't it this time last year that this came up?

      Wormwood is perfectly legal -- any number of artemesia species are
readily available from seed companies and retail greenhouses. Artemesia
absinthum is easy to grow, and quite prolific once it gets going. The same,
of course, is true of licorice root, coriander seed, hyssop, anise seed,
peppermint, cloves, cinnamon, nutmeg, calamus root, melissa, and any number
of other herbs that have formed part of absinthe recipes. I understand a good
way to make an absinthe-like product is to put the herbs into the cup of an
espresso maker and to use a strong neutral alcohol instead of water. Never
tried it -- sounds like a good way to blow onesself up. Soaking the herbs in
a strong grain alcohol results in something a little closer, but very harsh
unless some sort of sugar syrup is added (and then still barely palatable).
In the US at least, it's possible to legally mail order more or less proper
absinthe from Spanish, Bulgarian, Italian, French, Swiss, or even British
sources. Here's a link that might be of some use:

http://www.mcs.net/~mikei/absinthe/portal.htm

      The mystique of absinthe as a "forbidden" liquor is rapidly decreasing
;-) Still an intriguing buzz though.

93 93/93
RIKB

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law

Marcelo, oh Marcelo...


At 03:24 PM 11/30/00 -0200, you wrote:
>James, oh James...
>
> >For Instance, I have still yet to see any publication, electronic, or the
> >otherwise that spells out the structure of UR-OTO, how it is governed, how
> >the ruling body, or bodies are chosen.
>
>Take a look at the old R+C, take a look at the old Templars - what would
>anyone know of them, but those things they wanted the others to know of
>them?
>Secret order, pall.

Ok, I see, perfectly alright for UR-OTO to operate in secrecy, without, and
above scrutiny, but that same standard certainly is not applicable to any
other OTO...  Got any Rituals on hand, Mr. President I can post on a web
site without your permission?  ;o)  Got any secret degree instructions I
can post, you wrote up, that may be copyrighted to no one in particular I
might be able to post? ;o)  Hummm, this UR-OTO thing is sounding more and
more like Scientology, or the Moonies more and more...


> > I have seen some indication on it's main
> >website as to what Charters it operates from
>
>Only a few of them. There are many other charters and OTO lineages within
>the Confederation. It does not matter to what lineage one belongs to: any
>other temple, of any other lineage is open to the confederated sisters and
>brother. No secrecy between the secrets.

Except you are not exactly forthcoming about any of this to any Brother or
Sister engaged in any OTO that 'aint Your OTO...  Tell me, does HB, or
Sphynx, or A. Aiwass, or Krumm Heller have detailed information?


> >  I would love to see an official statement coming from any of the
> >Leaders of this Order on the withdrawl of Frater Uranus, and 93 Lodge from
> >the Confederation.
>
>Here you go, an official statement:
>* 93 Lodge did not withdraw from the Confederation.
>* Frater Uranus did not withdraw from the Confederation.
>* Frater Uranus very clearely stated he was ONLY withdrawing from the
>Areopagos.

Care to tell me more about this Aeropagos, erm well as Jeroen corrected me,
Aeropagus, or as Jason has typed twice, Aeropagii...  Damned terminology...


> > If it is indeed true that UR-OTO has combined the Rituals of all
> >OTO's
>
>You misunderstood: all of the OTO rites are represented within UR-OTO, each
>Lodge follows its own Rite. However, if you're a member of a Confederated
>Lodge and/or Rite, then you are welcome in any temple, being allowed to
>attend any ritual of your own degree (or equivalent).

In other words, if by chance, I were some sort of Actor that has done King
with a few people around, and has no Magickal Linage to OTO at all, I can
still apply for UR-OTO charter?  For some of you that have engaged in
Masonry, you certainly have little familiarity with the need of the
Degree.  I'll put it to you this way, would you allow someone to do you
taxes that was not a certified accountant, or represent you in court that
was not a Lawyer, certified with passing Law School, and in some places
passed a test indicating they actually know the Law?


>Every UR-OTO Lodge has access to the interna of the other Confederated
>Rites.

Seems to me, out the outset, you may have a problem with being able to know
whom is and whom is not a True Brother or Sister.


> >At the end of the day, if you want to buy OTO product, you have full
> >disclosure from at least one True OTO.
>
>The United Rites of the OTO do not sell anything.

Cute avoidance of the statement, but thanks anyways.

Agape,
MacHaren

Love is the law, love under Will


>M.
>
>
>
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,

Yeah, I should have added that it will produce some shitty 'alcohol',
there's got to be added oxidization which the yeast provides or the rot of
fermentation will just be rot.  However, the best high proof alcohol I've
had was moonshine some guy I met made, from Minnesota.  He threw potatoes
and rice and some other stuff into a bathtub, and lo! he created a pale blue
mist of pure pleasure.  In terms of hard alcohol, it was smooth with a
perfect burn, after very little I was deliriously drunk, but on the ball, no
hang over considering there were no preservatives.

Love is the law, love under will,
Cameron

> Psst...that's more like a fortified or sweetened wine...most wine won't
even
> have live yeast to turn the sugar into alcohol, though as you note you can
> add more yeast. That's still only going to give you more of a rotgut
sherry
> or port. Brandy is distilled wine, "spirituous liquor," with alcohol far
> higher than any fermentation process can reach.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,

Yeah, we've been thinking about invading you guys for awhile now.  In fact,
just tonight, over some port, plume wine and home grown Canadian joints,
some friends and I were discussing selling Canada to the U.S. for four
million dollars per fooking hoser.  Considering the number of cars with
Florida license plates who cross the border into Manitoba with skies on
their roof in the heat of summer, we think it's plausible.  Certainly a
subtle invasion, but we're not into that "my airforce could your kick air
force's ass" kind of jingoism.  Rather, we tend to think its the 'Canadian
burden'.


Love is the law, love under will,
Cameron


> >Hey what's wrong with Canada?
> >
>
> In the words of Trey Parker: Blame Canada! Blame Canada!

93

>>army-of-baphomet.cjb.net or something similar

That website has been down for some time I believe.

93 93/93

93,

"Avaryce" <avaryce@...> wrote:

>Absinthe is really easy to make.  All you need to do is ferment some
>wormwood, as in distill.  Wormwood is legal, but making alcohol without a
>license is illegal.  To the Green Goddess!
>
>It can also be tinctured, and then mixed with various herbs to kill the
>bitter flavour of the wormwood.

Not that simple -- or simpler, if you look at it differently.  Absinthe is
not just an ethylene infusion or tincture of wormwood.  It's a quite
complex tincture of many "herbs and spices" mixed with a water infusion of
still others.  The primary favouring is from anise -- which imparts a
"licorice" favour (actual licorice is just a sweetener, and anise seed is
used to favour "licorice" candy).  Until it was banned, largely as a result
of adulteration with copper sulfate to enhance the color, absinthe was
marketed under a variety of brands.  The most popular was and is Pernod.
Pernod is still widely available at a much lower alcohol content and
without the wormwood.  The easiest way to make absinthe is simply to pour
off a little Pernod from the bottle and cram some wormwood in the top.
Shake and leave set.  Bingo, absinthe!  It will only have about half the
alcohol content (not 186 proof), but it will have the taste, physical
properties and those other interesting properties that people have enjoyed
over the centuries -- including the ability to boost and repeat the "highs"
of a variety of psychoactive chemicals.  It will taste mostly like somewhat
bitter anisette, as it should.  When you add a little water to it, it will
cloud and turn yellow-green, as it should.

Doesn't make it any less illegal, though.

93 93/93
Bill

--- In thelema93-l@egroups.com, "cameron" <cbailes@h...> wrote:

> > Anyway, what powder in the grocery store?
>
> I assume some American supermarkets carry the stuff too.  It's a
powder or syrupy liquid that is used to make wine and beer.

Ok.  (I read Paul's post too.)  I thought you were talking about
wormwood `powder' or something and was gona say I've never seen that
in the grocery store.  You mean yeast, though, right?  That's
something I can pick up at the grocery store.  I've never made wine
that way before though.  With yeast, I mean.  Just smashed, strained
grapes into a jar on top of the fridge.  It's dangerous, though.
(Never know when the thing'l explode (if and when it does.))  I know
there's ways around that, but this was simple trial run.

>Add purified water, let sit for three weeks and you're ready to
drink yourself under the table.  Ive never made it before, but some
friends of mine have.  They found a way into the attic of my old high
school where, in about a year, they made hundreds
> of litres of wine.  As Canadian youths are known to say, it was
> unfucking-believable.

Sounds like they had practice.  I wasn't too happy with the results
of our experiment, of the bottle that didn't explode.  In a pinch
it'll do, though.

> Supposedly Van Gohe was a drinker of absinthe, probably an abuser.

I've never had Absinthe (Crowley's Green Goddess doesn't count) and
while I wouldn't mind experimenting (perhaps trying) I can see why
stills are controlled the way they are.  Fire and alcohol don't
really go well together ;-)

K.T.

--- In thelema93-l@egroups.com, "Paul  R. Hume" <paulhume@l...> wrote:
> >Otheriwse, I think brandy is easy to make, add sugar to wine and
let sit.
>
>
> Psst...that's more like a fortified or sweetened wine...most wine
won't even
> have live yeast to turn the sugar into alcohol, though as you note
you can
> add more yeast. That's still only going to give you more of a
rotgut sherry
> or port. Brandy is distilled wine, "spirituous liquor," with
alcohol far
> higher than any fermentation process can reach.

Yes.  Sherry is easy, by comparison.  Jalepeno flavor is pretty good,
suprisingly.

K.T.

James:

> Mr. President

Call me Marcelo. It's ok.

> I can post on a web
>site without your permission?

Yes: The man has the right to &c.
Spread Light and Wisdom!

>> Tell me, does HB

Nothing to do with HB. If he wants the Caliphate OTO to be confederated, he
must apply for that.

>Sphynx

See above.
On the other hand, Parzival's system within the United Rites is represented
by the Brazilian Tradition of the OTO. My Preceptor was the ONLY person who
was pointed Grand Master and initiated to the IXth by Frater Parzival XI*,
back in 1974 e.v.
It was OTO, though, not SOTO.

> or A. Aiwass

There is no T-OTO Lodge within UR-OTO. Please, have a look at my official
statement concerning the relationship between the Brazilian & the Typhonian
Traditions on brother König's webpage.
My Preceptor was recognized a IX* by Frater Aossic, and his outer order -
Sociedade Novo Aeon - was inserterd in brother Grant's Sanctuary for a
while. But they have nothing to do with one another since 1994 e.v.
We are in friendly terms with the Typhonians - a legitimate and honorable
OTO current - and keep mutual respect, though.

> Krumm Heller

Dead.
Frater R...a R... - Krumm's successor as "Comendador de la FRA" and "Obispo
de la Iglesia Gnostica" in Spain, via Frater Aureolus, and once leader of
the Franco-Haitian OTO in Northern Spain - leads a Confederated and very
interesting Rite.

>Care to tell me more about this Aeropagos

I won't speak about it now. Not my will.

>In other words, if by chance, I were some sort of Actor that has done King
>with a few people around, and has no Magickal Linage to OTO at all, I can
>still apply for UR-OTO charter?

If you were honorable enough and wanted your Lodge to join the
Confederation, you could apply for (a) regular initiations and/or (b) a
charter. Since the lineages are mutually recognized, you could even choose
another Rite in the future.

>Masonry

BTW, is OTO Masonry?

>Seems to me, out the outset, you may have a problem with being able to know
>whom is and whom is not a True Brother or Sister.

No problem: no bonds unite us but love. Difficult to understand, hae?

Enough for now.

M.

--- In thelema93-l@egroups.com, rikb2@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 12/1/00 9:39:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
xciii@h...
> writes:
>
> > > You might need to check the legal status of the wormwood...it
is
> >  illegal to
> >  > import beverages made with it, and illegal to sell them.
> >
> >  That I've heard.  Wasn't it this time last year that this came
up?
>
>      Wormwood is perfectly legal -- any number of artemesia species
are
> readily available from seed companies and retail greenhouses.
Artemesia
> absinthum is easy to grow, and quite prolific once it gets going.

Like Morning Glory?  It took a while before I found one that was
seeding (I've always liked the kind of viny-wispy-flower-thing) but
it grows like a weed!

  The same,
> of course, is true of licorice root, coriander seed, hyssop, anise
seed,
> peppermint, cloves, cinnamon, nutmeg, calamus root, melissa, and
any number
> of other herbs that have formed part of absinthe recipes.

Hyssop, huh?  So more than tea or baths it's good for...hmmm.  I like
the flowers on those too <g>

>I understand a good
> way to make an absinthe-like product is to put the herbs into the
cup of an
> espresso maker and to use a strong neutral alcohol instead of
water. Never
> tried it -- sounds like a good way to blow onesself up.

LOL!  Don't tell me...it was the survivors that tipped family off as
to `what happened?'

>Soaking the herbs in
> a strong grain alcohol results in something a little closer, but
very harsh
> unless some sort of sugar syrup is added (and then still barely
palatable).

That recipe Bill H. left sounds do-able.

> In the US at least, it's possible to legally mail order more or
less proper
> absinthe from Spanish, Bulgarian, Italian, French, Swiss, or even
British
> sources. Here's a link that might be of some use:
>
> http://www.mcs.net/~mikei/absinthe/portal.htm

Thanks.

>      The mystique of absinthe as a "forbidden" liquor is rapidly
decreasing
> ;-) Still an intriguing buzz though.

So does Ethyr, but ... it isn't something to do regular ...more like
a treat or something it sounds.

Thanks,

K.T.

>
> >
> > L&S said:
> > > where are the documents huh that shows where the califake got these
> > > things legitimately???
> >
> > Since you made the original accusation, the burden of proof is on you

>that is totally absurd.

Why? If I accuse YOU of stealing and attacking someone, don't you feel that
it should be MY job to prove your guilt? As far as I know this is standard
judicial practice in most free countries. What exactly is so absurd about
it?


>
>leah
>
><and
> > not OTO. Put out or shut up.
> >
> > 'dem the facts, baby.
> >
> > 93/93
> > bishop
> > www.kindredx.net
>
>

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--- In thelema93-l@egroups.com, "M Martin" <akingu@h...> wrote:
> 93!
>
>      From a Pagan background, the burin is used for engraving the
Magical
> Tools. Like a sharpened iron spike. For this Ritual, however, I
settled for
> a single-edged razor blade. Good control of the cuts. A "proper
sign" is
> what ever, IMHO, the Magician is ...preserving, as his/her record,
as it
> were, on His/Her Temple. This is a Ritual that allows one to dump a
load of
> Sht and come out smelling like Roses. Remind you of confession? The
Symbol
> One chooses, should represent what is powerful and Magickal to that
> Magician. Some have pyramids nipple to nipple to navel. Some just
prefer a
> small cross but try to carve a circle on your chest. I bow to those
who can.
> Persistance shows you soon learn to fear no blade, you look to it
as a
> passion of sorts and you come to love the sweet sting of Abramelin
Oil as
> you rub it in. The Itch that comes with doing it daily, the cuts at
which
> you constantly scratch, will remind you of your Duty and
Obligations.

93,

I like the way you put that.  I bow to anyone who can actaully
meditate for more than a few minutes a day (much less carving
something on your chest!)

I carved a `cross' on my arm when I was a kid; does that count?

93, 93/93

K.T.

In a message dated 12/2/00 9:35:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, xciii@...
writes:

>  >      Wormwood is perfectly legal -- any number of artemesia species
>  are
>  > readily available from seed companies and retail greenhouses.
>  Artemesia
>  > absinthum is easy to grow, and quite prolific once it gets going.
>
>  Like Morning Glory?  It took a while before I found one that was
>  seeding (I've always liked the kind of viny-wispy-flower-thing) but
>  it grows like a weed!

      I've always had tons of seed from my morning glories -- even the ones I
grew this year that were assaulted over and over again by aphids and spider
mites. If you like growing them, look for some of the Japanese imperial
morning glories -- beautiful big silky things in dreamy yesodic colors.
Artemesias vary in their habit, and I'm not sure about artemisia absinthum,
but I've seen some cultivars that shoot up in a single season to form 3' high
bushes.


>
>   The same,
>  > of course, is true of licorice root, coriander seed, hyssop, anise
>  seed,
>  > peppermint, cloves, cinnamon, nutmeg, calamus root, melissa, and
>  any number
>  > of other herbs that have formed part of absinthe recipes.
>
>  Hyssop, huh?  So more than tea or baths it's good for...hmmm.  I like
>  the flowers on those too <g>

      Yeah, hyssop is one of the herbs that's more consistently part of the
formula -- I've never had it in a tea though. Asperge me Domine... :-)

>
>  >I understand a good
>  > way to make an absinthe-like product is to put the herbs into the
>  cup of an
>  > espresso maker and to use a strong neutral alcohol instead of
>  water. Never
>  > tried it -- sounds like a good way to blow onesself up.
>
>  LOL!  Don't tell me...it was the survivors that tipped family off as
>  to `what happened?'

      LOL...yeah, that was my reaction when I was told...but I think it must
be safer than traditional distilling. That doesn't mean I'm going to try it
of course...

>
>  >Soaking the herbs in
>  > a strong grain alcohol results in something a little closer, but
>  very harsh
>  > unless some sort of sugar syrup is added (and then still barely
>  palatable).
>
>  That recipe Bill H. left sounds do-able.

      Certainly more likely to be drinkable.

>  >      The mystique of absinthe as a "forbidden" liquor is rapidly
>  decreasing
>  > ;-) Still an intriguing buzz though.
>
>  So does Ethyr, but ... it isn't something to do regular ...more like
>  a treat or something it sounds.

      I like anise, but for me the flavor is something I only want
occasionally. Despite the widely circulated myths, I'm not convinced that the
deleterious effects of absinthe aren't just due to the extrememely high
alcohol content. Drink 93% pure alcohol habitually for a few years, and I
imagine some neurological and somatic symptoms start to creep in.

93 93/93
RIKB

--- In thelema93-l@egroups.com, rikb2@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 12/2/00 9:35:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
xciii@h...
> writes:
>
> >  >      Wormwood is perfectly legal -- any number of artemesia
species
> >  are
> >  > readily available from seed companies and retail greenhouses.
> >  Artemesia
> >  > absinthum is easy to grow, and quite prolific once it gets
going.
> >
> >  Like Morning Glory?  It took a while before I found one that was
> >  seeding (I've always liked the kind of viny-wispy-flower-thing)
but
> >  it grows like a weed!
>
>      I've always had tons of seed from my morning glories

93,

Oh, I never looked to buy them...just picked them up from off a fence
that was over grown.  Mostly, it was a timing thing.  I looked
(casually) for years before I found some that did have seeds.  come
to think of it it was years before I even planted the seeds (then I
started giving them away.)

>-- even the ones I
> grew this year that were assaulted over and over again by aphids
and spider
> mites. If you like growing them, look for some of the Japanese
imperial
> morning glories -- beautiful big silky things in dreamy yesodic
colors.

I'm not sure the of variety I started here, but they are about 2 to
3" diameter.  More white toward the center and darker purple toward
the edge.

> >  Hyssop, huh?  So more than tea or baths it's good for...hmmm.  I
like
> >  the flowers on those too <g>
>
>      Yeah, hyssop is one of the herbs that's more consistently part
of the
> formula -- I've never had it in a tea though. Asperge me
Domine... :-)

It's not bad for tea and wouldn't I have to know you a little better?
<G>

> >  >Soaking the herbs in
> >  > a strong grain alcohol results in something a little closer,
but
> >  very harsh
> >  > unless some sort of sugar syrup is added (and then still
barely
> >  palatable).
> >
> >  That recipe Bill H. left sounds do-able.
>
>      Certainly more likely to be drinkable.

That too.

> >  >      The mystique of absinthe as a "forbidden" liquor is
rapidly
> >  decreasing
> >  > ;-) Still an intriguing buzz though.
> >
> >  So does Ethyr, but ... it isn't something to do regular ...more
like
> >  a treat or something it sounds.
>
>      I like anise, but for me the flavor is something I only want
> occasionally. Despite the widely circulated myths, I'm not
convinced that the
> deleterious effects of absinthe aren't just due to the extrememely
high
> alcohol content. Drink 93% pure alcohol habitually for a few years,
and I
> imagine some neurological and somatic symptoms start to creep in.

I'd imagine so too.

93, 93/93

K.T.

>From: metatron@...
>Reply-To: thelema93-l@egroups.com
>To: thelema93-l@egroups.com
>Subject: [t93] Cyberzealots!
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:12:37 -0000
>
>We put the Ur OTO site up ok?
>
>
>We are 'The Popular Front of Judea'.
>
>(formerly 'The People's Front of Judea')
>Not to be confused with "The Judean People's Front"?
    (Yet another act of Cybersilliness)
>
>More acts of cyberterrorism to follow.
>
>
>JC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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