As of midnight GMT.

Asterisks indicate alignments that weren't there a week ago today (with a 1 00'
orb).




Jupiter


Deneb Okab (Zeta Aquilae)

SS433 (V1433 Aquilae)

BY Draconis

Ring Nebula (M-57 Lyrae)

Lucida Octantis (Nu Octantis, the brightest star in Octans the Octant)




Saturn



Kollarobos (21 Canum Venaticorum)

*AM Canum Venaticorum (cataclysmic variable aka nova)

*NGC 4395 (Canum Venaticorum; galaxy with suspected black hole)

The Box (NGC 4169 Comae Berenices; a star cluster)

Sherasiph (Nu Hydrae)

Cat's Tail (44 Hydrae; marks the base of the tail of the obsolete constellation
Felis [the Cat])



Uranus



Shih (Sigma Pegasi)

Fum al Samakah (Beta Piscium)





Neptune



LZ Aquarii (cataclysmic variable)

Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)

16 Cygni B (has planets)

Blinking Planetary (NGC 6826 Cygni)

S Doradus (super-brilliant star in Nubecula Major)

Gruid (Beta Gruis)

Phoenicopterus (Epsilon Gruis; a former name of Grus the Crane is
Phoenicopterus the Flamingo)

VW Hydri (cataclysmic variable)

Polophylax (Zeta Tucanae; marks the obsolete constellation Polophylax, the Pole
Guard)

TY Vulpeculae (cataclysmic variable)




Pluto



Baraka (Xi Herculis)

Ramo (95 Herculis; marks the obsolete constellation Ramo[(the Branch], aka
Cerberus, both represented as held in Hercules' left hand)

Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)

Fellah (67 Ophiuchi)

Barnard's Star (V2500 Ophiuchi)

*Trifid Nebula (M-20 Sagittarii)

Acumen (M-7 Scorpii; an open cluster, aka Ptolemy's Cluster)

DZ Serpentis (cataclysmic variable)




Eris



Saderazra (Delta Andromedae)

Termes Frederici (Psi Andromedae [marks the olive branch in the obsolete
constellation Frederici Honores [the Honors of Frederick])

FX Cephei

VV Cephei (cataclysmic variables)



Ceres


*Chang (Upsilon-1 Hydrae)

*Shir (Rho Leonis)

*Lochium (Lambda Pyxidis; marks the log part [Lochium] of the obsolete
constellation Lochium et Funis [the Log and Line])

*Spindle Galaxy of Sextans (NGC 3115 Sextantis)

*Alula Boreale (Nu Ursae Majoris)

*Keenan System (NGC 5216/5218 Ursae Majoris, interacting galaxies connected by a
filament; named for the American astronomer Philip Childs Keenan, who noticed
the filament)




Pallas



*Hassaleh (Iota Aurigae)

*Batenateban Borealis (Chi Draconis)

*Rigel (Beta Orionis)

*FY Persei (cataclysmic variable)



Juno



*Vincla (Theta Coronae Australis)

*Cerberus (106 Herculis)

*Ghusen (109 Herculis)

*Dahlgren's Star (V533 Herculis; cataclysmic variable)

*Kaus Borealis (Lambda Sagittarii)

*Clipeus (Zeta Scuti)

*Ki (Delta-1 Telescopii)




Vesta



*Mira (Omicron Ceti)

*109 Piscium (has planets)

TY Piscium (cataclysmic variable)

*Markarian 1 (Piscium; galaxy with suspected black hole)



Chiron



Albulaan Australis (Gamma Aquarii)

Marakk (Zeta Capricorni)

Rotanev (Beta Delphini)

Kwa Chaou (Zeta Delphini)

Dhanistra (Theta Delphini)

Alnair (Alpha Gruis)

*Tien Tsien (Iota Puppis)

EF Tucanae (cataclysmic variable)



North Node



Albali (Epsilon Aquarii)

Albulaan Borealis (Mu Aquarii)

AE Aquarii (cataclysmic variable)

Armus (Eta Capricorni)

Gliese 777A (Cygni; has a planet)

Cygnus X-1 (famous black hole)

Lucida Globi (Epsilon Microscopii; the brightest star in the obsolete
constellation Globus Aerostaticus [the Hot Air Balloon])




South Node



Denebokab Borealis (Epsilon Aquilae)

AK Cancri (cataclysmic variable)

Melendez-Ramirez Star (HIP 56948 Draconis; a twin of the Sun--with a similar
composition, discovered to be such by Peruvian astronomers Jorge Melendez and
Ivan Ramirez)

Aslesha (Epsilon Hydrae)

Elvashak (Alpha Lyncis; aka Lynx)

Tureis (Rho Puppis)

*HZ Puppis (cataclysmic variable)




More later.




Mark A. Holmes

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Study illuminates star explosion from 16th century

By MALCOLM RITTER, AP Science Writer

NEW YORK – More than 400 years after Danish astronomer Tycho Brahe challenged
established wisdom about the heavens by analyzing a strange new light in the
sky, scientists say they've finally nailed down just what he saw.

It's no big surprise. Scientists have known the light came from a supernova, a
huge star explosion. But what kind of supernova?

A new study confirms that, as expected, it was the common kind that involves the
thermonuclear explosion of a white dwarf star with a nearby companion.

The research, which analyzed a "light echo" from the long-ago event, is
presented in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature by scientists in Germany,
Japan and the Netherlands.

The story of what's commonly called Tycho's supernova began on Nov. 11, 1572,
when Brahe was astonished to see what he thought was a brilliant new star in the
constellation Cassiopeia. The light eventually became as bright as Venus and
could be seen for two weeks in broad daylight. After 16 months, it disappeared.

Working before telescopes were invented, Brahe documented with precision that
unlike the moon and the planets, the light's position didn't move in relation to
the stars. That meant it lay far beyond the moon. That was a shock to the
contemporary view that the distant heavens were perfect and unchanging.

The event inspired Brahe to commit himself further to studying the stars,
launching a career of meticulous observations that helped lay the foundations of
early modern astronomy, said Michael Shank, a professor of the history of
science at the University of Wisconsin, Madison.

The direct light from the supernova swept past Earth long ago. But some of it
struck dust clouds in deep space, causing them to brighten. That "light echo"
was still observable, and the new study was based on analyzing the wavelengths
of light from that.

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On the Net:

Nature: http://www.nature.com/nature

Thanks.

Mark A. Holmes


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nope an Australian astronomer/astrologer named martin, if you ever
want to see an astro wheel for a date on mars or venus as opposed to
earth ask him, he can run alternate chart for you its very
intereting! in an astro chart for non earth placement earth is
represented but a circle with a cross in it, similar to what someone
would have for Part of Fortune, but it is very odd ot see chart that
doesn't have say mars in it. he does beautiful work, aslo if you
wonder about weather, he's a good eather astrologer as well.

MissB

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New Observations Detail Milky Way's Big Black Hole
Jeanna Bryner
Senior Writer
SPACE.com  – Tue Dec 9, 7:31 pm ET

Like ballerinas pirouetting around an invisible leader, a collection
of stars orbits our galaxy's gravity sink, or black hole. New
infrared images of the cosmic dance confirm that this supermassive
black hole weighs as much as 4 million suns.


Supermassive black holes can weigh as much as a billion suns or more
and are thought to reside at the centers of most, if not all,
galaxies. They can't be seen, because their gravity is so powerful it
traps even light, but astronomers infer their presence by watching
the motions of stars and gas around them.


Over a period of 16 years, beginning in 1992, researchers monitored
28 stars orbiting the Milky Way's central region, where the
supermassive black hole called Sagittarius A* is thought to lurk.


By watching how the central stars orbited Sagittarius A*, to which
they are gravitationally bound, the researchers inferred properties
of the black hole itself, such as mass and distance. They found that
at least 95 percent of the mass affecting the stars must be within
the black hole. Results gave a precise distance of 27,000 light-years
from Earth to the presumed black hole. One light-year is the distance
light will travel in a year, or about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion
km).


"Undoubtedly the most spectacular aspect of our long-term study is
that it has delivered what is now considered to be the best empirical
evidence that supermassive black holes do really exist," said team
leader Reinhard Genzel of the Max-Planck-Institute for
Extraterrestrial Physics in Germany.


The new images also reveal common properties among the orbiting
stars. For instance, the team found the innermost stars trek around
the black hole in random orbits, while six of the 28 stars, which
reside farther out, orbit the black hole in the same plane, just as
our planets mostly do around the sun.


One particular star, known as S2, orbits the Milky Way's center so
fast that it completed one full revolution within the study's 16-year
period.


The researchers hope to continue to study the dancing stars to solve
a long-held riddle as to how such stars ended up in their orbits
about Sagittarius A*. They are too young to have migrated far, and
scientists think it's improbable the stars formed in their current
orbits where they'd be exposed to the extreme tidal forces of the
black hole.


One explanation put forth recently is that the stars formed out of
material that survived after a gas cloud plunged in toward the
central black hole. This scenario was based on computer simulations.
The researchers suggest that the six stars orbiting in a disk formed
about 6 million years ago in this gas-cloud scenario.


The innermost stars could have once been in pairs, said lead
researcher Stefan Gillessen, also of the Max-Planck-Institute. And so
when the binary stars got too close to the supermassive black hole,
the gravitational energy may have been shuffled around between the
stars. In that way, one member of the pair would've been kicked out
while the other remained. These innermost stars — each missing a
partner — are estimated to be about 50 million years old.


The recent finding involved observations in 1992 with the SHARP
camera aboard the European Southern Observatory's New Technology
Telescope at the La Silla observatory in Chile; and more recent
observations using instruments aboard ESO's Very Large Telescope.

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Hubble telescope finds carbon dioxide on distant planet

Tue Dec 9, 6:38 pm ET AFP/NASA/ESA –

WASHINGTON (AFP) – NASA's Hubble Space Telescope has discovered both
carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide in the atmosphere of a distant
planet, in a key step for finding extraterrestrial life, the space
agency said Tuesday.

Detecting organic compounds that can be a by-product of life
processes on an Earth-like body could one day "provide the first
evidence of life beyond our planet," NASA said in a statement.

The discovery was made on a Jupiter-size planet 63 light years away
from Earth that is too hot for life, and is all gas and liquid.

"We're not closer to discovering life on this particular planet,"
admitted Ray Villard of the Space Telescope Science Institute.

"But it has the mix of chemistry that on the right planet could be a
biotracer for life," he said.

Scientists have studied the planet intensively, finding the organic
molecule methane as well as water vapor, Villard added.

The carbon dioxide and monoxide were detected by Mark Swain, a
research scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California,
using Hubble to study infrared light emitted from the planet.

"The carbon dioxide is the main reason for the excitement because,
under the right circumstances, it could have a connection to
biological activity as it does on Earth," Swain said.

"The very fact we are able to detect it and estimate its abundance is
significant for the long-term effort of characterizing planets to
find out what they are made of and if they could be a possible host
for life."

Launched 18 years ago, Hubble revolutionized astronomy with the
ability to peer deep into the universe, beaming back dazzling images
free of the distortions of Earth's atmosphere.

Orbiting 575 kilometers (360 miles) above the ground, Hubble has
enabled scientists to better measure the age and origin of the
universe, observe distant supernovas, and identify and study bodies
in and outside the solar system.

A light year is the distance that light travels in a vacuum in one
year, or approximately 5.88 trillion miles (9.46 trillion kilometers).

Maybe we'll find new friends there?

with wintery christmas greetings

Outi

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> Hubble telescope finds carbon dioxide on distant planet
>
> Tue Dec 9, 6:38 pm ET AFP/NASA/ESA –
>
> WASHINGTON (AFP) – NASA's Hubble Space Telescope has discovered
both
> carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide in the atmosphere of a distant
> planet, in a key step for finding extraterrestrial life, the space
> agency said Tuesday.
>
> Detecting organic compounds that can be a by-product of life
> processes on an Earth-like body could one day "provide the first
> evidence of life beyond our planet," NASA said in a statement.
>
> The discovery was made on a Jupiter-size planet 63 light years away
> from Earth that is too hot for life, and is all gas and liquid.
>
> "We're not closer to discovering life on this particular planet,"
> admitted Ray Villard of the Space Telescope Science Institute.
>
> "But it has the mix of chemistry that on the right planet could be a
> biotracer for life," he said.
>
> Scientists have studied the planet intensively, finding the organic
> molecule methane as well as water vapor, Villard added.
>
> The carbon dioxide and monoxide were detected by Mark Swain, a
> research scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California,
> using Hubble to study infrared light emitted from the planet.
>
> "The carbon dioxide is the main reason for the excitement because,
> under the right circumstances, it could have a connection to
> biological activity as it does on Earth," Swain said.
>
> "The very fact we are able to detect it and estimate its abundance is
> significant for the long-term effort of characterizing planets to
> find out what they are made of and if they could be a possible host
> for life."
>
> Launched 18 years ago, Hubble revolutionized astronomy with the
> ability to peer deep into the universe, beaming back dazzling images
> free of the distortions of Earth's atmosphere.
>
> Orbiting 575 kilometers (360 miles) above the ground, Hubble has
> enabled scientists to better measure the age and origin of the
> universe, observe distant supernovas, and identify and study bodies
> in and outside the solar system.
>
> A light year is the distance that light travels in a vacuum in one
> year, or approximately 5.88 trillion miles (9.46 trillion kilometers).
>

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> Maybe we'll find new friends there?

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> with wintery christmas greetings
>
> Outi


Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays/Seasons Greetings/Happy Winter
Solstice to you.

Mark A. Holmes


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> wrote:
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> > >
> > > ============================================================
> >
> > Hubble telescope finds carbon dioxide on distant planet
> >
> > Tue Dec 9, 6:38 pm ET AFP/NASA/ESA –
> >
> > WASHINGTON (AFP) – NASA's Hubble Space Telescope has discovered
> both
> > carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide in the atmosphere of a distant
> > planet, in a key step for finding extraterrestrial life, the space
> > agency said Tuesday.
> >
> > Detecting organic compounds that can be a by-product of life
> > processes on an Earth-like body could one day "provide the first
> > evidence of life beyond our planet," NASA said in a statement.
> >
> > The discovery was made on a Jupiter-size planet 63 light years
away
> > from Earth that is too hot for life, and is all gas and liquid.
> >
> > "We're not closer to discovering life on this particular planet,"
> > admitted Ray Villard of the Space Telescope Science Institute.
> >
> > "But it has the mix of chemistry that on the right planet could
be a
> > biotracer for life," he said.
> >
> > Scientists have studied the planet intensively, finding the
organic
> > molecule methane as well as water vapor, Villard added.
> >
> > The carbon dioxide and monoxide were detected by Mark Swain, a
> > research scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in
California,
> > using Hubble to study infrared light emitted from the planet.
> >
> > "The carbon dioxide is the main reason for the excitement because,
> > under the right circumstances, it could have a connection to
> > biological activity as it does on Earth," Swain said.
> >
> > "The very fact we are able to detect it and estimate its
abundance is
> > significant for the long-term effort of characterizing planets to
> > find out what they are made of and if they could be a possible
host
> > for life."
> >
> > Launched 18 years ago, Hubble revolutionized astronomy with the
> > ability to peer deep into the universe, beaming back dazzling
images
> > free of the distortions of Earth's atmosphere.
> >
> > Orbiting 575 kilometers (360 miles) above the ground, Hubble has
> > enabled scientists to better measure the age and origin of the
> > universe, observe distant supernovas, and identify and study
bodies
> > in and outside the solar system.
> >
> > A light year is the distance that light travels in a vacuum in one
> > year, or approximately 5.88 trillion miles (9.46 trillion
kilometers).
> >
>

Neptune was discovered Sept 23, 1846, about 9-10 PM, at Berlin.

It was 25 Aquar 52 rx, closely conj Saturn at 25 Aquar 08 rx.

It will return to this position (for the 1st time since its discovery) on Apr 11, 2009.

For epoch 2000, add 2 deg 08 min; for epoch 2009.5, add 2 deg 16 min.

The two planets were aligned with Triple Star NGC7158 at the end of the Sea-Goat's tail
and Iota Aquarii in the Water-Pourer's thigh/lap (there's an overlap of constellations here), as well as stars of Cygnus, the Swan and Piscis Austrinus, the Southern Fish:

From my book:

Albert Einstein, who had Jupiter here, said "I want to know what God knows; the rest are just details;" whether bearing the Water-Pourer’s burdens, flying with Cygnus and Pegasus (whose earliest stars are here), riding the waves with Capricornus or delving deep into them with Piscis Austrinus, these wayfarers search for comprehension, for God and for “what God knows,” examining and questioning everything for its deeper meaning. These “true Aquarians” (these are the last stars that encompass both tropical and sidereal Aquarius), born under the the head of the pourer-out of the waters of heaven, share their place in the sky with the gulping Southern Fish (who wants it all!)  Whether filled with faith and hope or troubled with skepticism, their intense curiosity and will-to-understand takes them on life-long pilgrimages of discovery. The Earth and her people, flora, fauna, weather patterns, minerals, soil and vital signs are their concern, as well as her enveloping universe and the laws, ways and means of human interactions; they create maps not only of the earth and sky but the human mind and psyche as well, for here are geographers, cartographers (both terrestrial and celestial), cosmologists, geologists, naturalists, physicists, mathematicians, physicians, psychologists, astrologers, psychic researchers, scholars of religion, philosophy and mythology, students and salvors of ancient knowledge, and laws both human and divine. Although charming, they are outspoken and “tell it like it is.” Stubborn, determined, fiercely independent, hungry for knowledge (along with money, achievement, and recognition); they are anxious to prove themselves; time presses upon them; they never feel they have enough of it to finish their tasks on this plane. Under the Veil Nebula they enjoy the secretive, mysterious trappings of magic, sleight-of-hand conjuring and “hidden knowledge” granted by the study of ancient texts and the occult; some have mystical or visionary experiences, and the artists and writers among them have a nicely-honed sense of the gothic and macabre. There is a wild, aggressive side to the Swan (Persians saw a panther in its stars), and often physical prowess as well: many athletes and dancers have positions here (as well as comedians with a madcap sense of humor). Some seek God, others play God: mastery and control (of themselves and others) is essential to them; opinionated and blunt, they can be cold, tough, brutal and ruthless, and may back up their hard-won, strongly-held beliefs with force (in extreme cases, murder). For those in public life, law, government, politics and military force are often combined and intertwined. Insisting on obedience and adherence to laws; some embrace pacifism while others try to enforce what they consider absolutes and fundamentals (as if by forcing them on others, they may quiet their own repressed doubts). Scandal-prone, often beleaguered, they are high-strung, sensitive to slights, wrongs and injustices to themselves, but nonetheless may impose them on others; some are arrogant, rigid, aristocratic and chauvinistic, even satyrical, sneering and bullying. The gulping Southern Fish can make them greedy for money and the trappings of success, and a few give in to overindulgence and addictions, yet many here are uninterested in riches; enlightened by Aquarius’ gift of a wide-ranging, universal mind, recognizing the oneness of humankind, they open themselves to the all-encompassing energies of  the divine, searching (through laws, social philosophy and/or reform) for ways to create a peaceful Utopia and to help their fellow-passengers on Spaceship Earth. The earliest stars of Aquarius’ head are here, and mental health is an important concern: some are conflicted in their sexual identity, convinced that their physical bodies do not match the true gender of their souls. Longing for faith but wracked by doubts or beset by painful emotional conflicts, they can learn to use the mind itself to heal; a few have psychic ability which can be used to help others. Issues include waging war vs making peace, taking responsibility for oneself and others vs self-pity; self-discipline vs self-indulgence; severity and prejudgment vs forbearance, tolerance and understanding. These stars form the last quarter of a Grand Cross of the Pleiades, Regulus, Bungula (Alpha Centauri) and Omicron² Cygni. High above the travails of Earth, the soaring wings of Cygnus grant a breadth of vision vouchsafed to few. Multiple births, umbilical cord problems (around the neck): head injuries, face or skin disfigurements (especially the nose) (the Water-Pourer's head and neck are here); hearing problems, alcoholism, addictions, substance abuse; cannibalism; Great journeys and treks, release of long-contained or long-repressed energies and/or tensions; assassinations, mass intolerance, persecutions, droughts, famines, epidemics, disasters with a high number of fatalities, fires, storms with extremely high winds, floods, extreme cold, major fossil discoveries; paradigm shifts; meteorite falls

This was the Sun of US Pres Abraham Lincoln, who dedicated his presidency to saving the Union (spells of depression) (assassinated-shot in the head) (the head of Aquarius is here) and 19^th-century naturalist Charles Darwin whose "The Origin of Species" (1859) caused intense controversy, unabated to this day! (intestinal illness, fatigue, panic attacks) (Lincoln and Darwin were born on the same day; each, without intending to, precipitated a social and cultural revolution); the Sun as well of 16^th-century jurist Sir Edward Coke, champion of English Common Law; 18^th-century moral philosopher-economist-social and judicial reformer Jeremy Bentham, 18^th-19^th-century economist-demographer Thomas Malthus (theorized that population will always tend to outrun food supply, and the betterment of mankind is impossible without limits on reproduction), social philosopher Auguste Comte, pioneer feminist Susan B Anthony, social reformer-utopian Charles Fourier, “formidable” one-woman social reformer Carrie Nation, a temperance advocate notorious for marching into barrooms singing, praying, hurling biblical vituperations and smashing stock and fixtures with a hatchet, and UN Commissioner for Human Rights Sergio Vieira De Mello (killed by Gulf War II terrorist bomb, Baghdad), This was Venus when Russian serfs were emancipated, and at the inauguration of President Abraham Lincoln, both in 1861.

There are chart elements here of paradigm-shifting 15^th-16^th-century astrologer-astronomer-mathematician Copernicus, 16^th-century astronomer-astrologer Tycho Brahe (nose cut off in a duel), 16^th-17^th-century astrologer-astronomer-mathematician Kepler, 17^th-century astronomer-celestial cartographer Hevelius (proud of his unusually keen eyesight); naturalist-biologist-microscopy pioneer Swammerdam (deeply religious, unstable), 18^th-century cartographer-geographer-surveyor Aaron Arrowsmith and geologist-mineralogist Dolomieu, 18^th-19^th-century French Academy of Medicine founder Dr Joseph Guillotin, at whose urging (for a quick, painless means of capital punishment) the guillotine was invented; photograpy  co-inventor J Nicephore Niepce, mathematician-physicist Jean-Baptiste Fourier, 19^th-century explorer-naturalist-botanical collector-science patron Joseph Banks, naturalist Geoffroy St-Hilaire, pioneering geologist-ethnologist-anthropologist-conservationist-explorer-author Maj John Wesley Powell, 1^st to voyage and map the length of the Grand Canyon on the Colorado River, creator-publisher of the 1^st classification of American Indian languages (all this after he lost his lower right arm at the Battle of Shiloh!), ethnologist-explorer Henry Rowe Schoolcraft, an early important writer on American Indians; anthropologist-archaeologist-geologist-illustrator William H Holmes, astronomer Urbain Leverrier, pioneering 19^th-early 20^th-century physicists Pierre Curie (crystallography, piezoelectricity, magnetism, radioactivity) (head crushed in accident at 46), Marie Curie (discoverer of radium), physicist-chemist Otto Hahn (and born just 6 days later) physicist Albert Einstein, nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman, a believer in UFO’s; philosopher-mathematician Alfred North Whitehead, inventor Thomas Edison (became deaf), aircraft designer Willy Messerschmidt, horticulturalist-plant breeder Luther Burbank, paleontologist Edward Drinker Cope, anthropologist Margaret Mead and naturalist- primatologist-ethologist Jane Goodall (discoverer of tool making and tool use among primates) who travels and lectures about saving endangered animals, the environment (and humankind!). These stars were transited at the Aries Ingress of 1313 when Chinese Magistrate Wang Chen, whose craftsmen had carved 60,000 characters on movable wooden blocks, published a treatise on the history of technology, and in it mentioned the use of tin characters for printing (more than a century before printing developed in Europe); when the Aztec Calendar Stone was discovered, Mexico City, 1760; at Neptune’s discovery (cnj Saturn) in 1846; when ancient Egyptian King Tutankhamen's tomb was opened in 1923; at the launch of Sputnik, the 1^st artificial earth satellite, from Baikonur Cosmodrome, USSR in 1957, the start of the Space Age (and, as it turned out, the Internet), in 1980 when Benoit Mandelbrot discovered “Mandelbrot Sets” (fractals), “one of the most astonishing discoveries in the history of mathematics.” This was Uranus (cnj Charles Darwin's Sun) in 1835, when HMS Beagle arrived at the Galapagos Islands with Darwin on board; observations of its fauna led to his revolutionary theory of natural selection and evolution. Piscis Austrinus, the Great Southern Fish, apparently sponsors fossils: this was the 1822 Aries Ingress NNode the year Dr Gideon Mantell discovered the 1^st (aquatic) dinosaur bones in Sussex, Jupiter in 1938 when a live coelacanth, a 5-foot (1.52 m) “fossil fish” sourced in the Devonian period (410-360 million years BP - predating the dinosaurs!), thought to have been extinct for over 80 million years, was caught off South Africa, and Venus was here in 2006 when scientists announced they had found a 375-million-year-old tetrapod-fish "missing link" fossil in Canada's far-north Nunavut Territory, jokingly dubbing it a "fishapod;" Inuit elders, asked to propose a formal name, chose "Tiktaalik" (Inuktikuk for "a large, shallow-water fish") - all discoveries that caused great excitement in the scientific world.

((Just felt like offering up a bit of a holiday gift, since the book has been delayed)

Love, Diana

Website: http://ye-stars.com

It is also near the Jupiter-Neptune conjunction in Aquarius as Jupiter
transits that point 25.52 Aqu in 19 May 2009 and is then within one
degree conjunction (about 35') to Neptune and Chiron (about 18'). And
it passes that point direct the second time on 29 December 2009.

But adding the epoc degrees we have to wait until April 2010 before
Neptune gets there. And Jupiter is then in Pisces approaching Uranus.

Would you think this time could be some kind of sign, time worth-while
exploring the cosmos, physics, astrology, all the occult, sciences,
psych etc? There are so many possibilities there in this vast list of
things.

Outi



--- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "Diana K Rosenberg"
<fixed.stars@...> wrote:
>
> Neptune was discovered Sept 23, 1846, about 9-10 PM, at Berlin.
>
> It was 25 Aquar 52 rx, closely conj Saturn at 25 Aquar 08 rx.
>
> It will return to this position (for the 1st time since its
discovery) on
> Apr 11, 2009.
>
> For epoch 2000, add 2 deg 08 min; for epoch 2009.5, add 2 deg 16 min.
>
> The two planets were aligned with Triple Star NGC7158 at the end of the
> Sea-Goat's tail
> and Iota Aquarii in the Water-Pourer's thigh/lap (there's an overlap of
> constellations here), as well as stars of Cygnus, the Swan and Piscis
> Austrinus, the Southern Fish:
>
> From my book:
>
> Albert Einstein, who had Jupiter here, said "I want to know what God
knows;
> the rest are just details;" whether bearing the Water-Pourer's burdens,
> flying with Cygnus and Pegasus (whose earliest stars are here),
riding the
> waves with Capricornus or delving deep into them with Piscis Austrinus,
> these wayfarers search for comprehension, for God and for "what God
knows,"
> examining and questioning everything for its deeper meaning. These "true
> Aquarians" (these are the last stars that encompass both tropical and
> sidereal Aquarius), born under the the head of the pourer-out of the
waters
> of heaven, share their place in the sky with the gulping Southern
Fish (who
> wants it all!)  Whether filled with faith and hope or troubled with
> skepticism, their intense curiosity and will-to-understand takes them on
> life-long pilgrimages of discovery. The Earth and her people, flora,
fauna,
> weather patterns, minerals, soil and vital signs are their concern,
as well
> as her enveloping universe and the laws, ways and means of human
> interactions; they create maps not only of the earth and sky but the
human
> mind and psyche as well, for here are geographers, cartographers (both
> terrestrial and celestial), cosmologists, geologists, naturalists,
> physicists, mathematicians, physicians, psychologists, astrologers,
psychic
> researchers, scholars of religion, philosophy and mythology,
students and
> salvors of ancient knowledge, and laws both human and divine. Although
> charming, they are outspoken and "tell it like it is." Stubborn,
determined,
> fiercely independent, hungry for knowledge (along with money,
achievement,
> and recognition); they are anxious to prove themselves; time presses
upon
> them; they never feel they have enough of it to finish their tasks
on this
> plane. Under the Veil Nebula they enjoy the secretive, mysterious
trappings
> of magic, sleight-of-hand conjuring and "hidden knowledge" granted
by the
> study of ancient texts and the occult; some have mystical or visionary
> experiences, and the artists and writers among them have a nicely-honed
> sense of the gothic and macabre. There is a wild, aggressive side to the
> Swan (Persians saw a panther in its stars), and often physical
prowess as
> well: many athletes and dancers have positions here (as well as
comedians
> with a madcap sense of humor). Some seek God, others play God:
mastery and
> control (of themselves and others) is essential to them; opinionated and
> blunt, they can be cold, tough, brutal and ruthless, and may back up
their
> hard-won, strongly-held beliefs with force (in extreme cases,
murder). For
> those in public life, law, government, politics and military force
are often
> combined and intertwined. Insisting on obedience and adherence to
laws; some
> embrace pacifism while others try to enforce what they consider
absolutes
> and fundamentals (as if by forcing them on others, they may quiet
their own
> repressed doubts). Scandal-prone, often beleaguered, they are
high-strung,
> sensitive to slights, wrongs and injustices to themselves, but
nonetheless
> may impose them on others; some are arrogant, rigid, aristocratic and
> chauvinistic, even satyrical, sneering and bullying. The gulping
Southern
> Fish can make them greedy for money and the trappings of success,
and a few
> give in to overindulgence and addictions, yet many here are
uninterested in
> riches; enlightened by Aquarius' gift of a wide-ranging, universal mind,
> recognizing the oneness of humankind, they open themselves to the
> all-encompassing energies of  the divine, searching (through laws,
social
> philosophy and/or reform) for ways to create a peaceful Utopia and
to help
> their fellow-passengers on Spaceship Earth. The earliest stars of
Aquarius'
> head are here, and mental health is an important concern: some are
> conflicted in their sexual identity, convinced that their physical
bodies do
> not match the true gender of their souls. Longing for faith but
wracked by
> doubts or beset by painful emotional conflicts, they can learn to
use the
> mind itself to heal; a few have psychic ability which can be used to
help
> others. Issues include waging war vs making peace, taking
responsibility for
> oneself and others vs self-pity; self-discipline vs self-indulgence;
> severity and prejudgment vs forbearance, tolerance and
understanding. These
> stars form the last quarter of a Grand Cross of the Pleiades, Regulus,
> Bungula (Alpha Centauri) and Omicron2 Cygni. High above the travails of
> Earth, the soaring wings of Cygnus grant a breadth of vision
vouchsafed to
> few. Multiple births, umbilical cord problems (around the neck): head
> injuries, face or skin disfigurements (especially the nose) (the
> Water-Pourer's head and neck are here); hearing problems, alcoholism,
> addictions, substance abuse; cannibalism; Great journeys and treks,
release
> of long-contained or long-repressed energies and/or tensions;
> assassinations, mass intolerance, persecutions, droughts, famines,
> epidemics, disasters with a high number of fatalities, fires, storms
with
> extremely high winds, floods, extreme cold, major fossil discoveries;
> paradigm shifts; meteorite falls
>
> This was the Sun of US Pres Abraham Lincoln, who dedicated his
presidency to
> saving the Union (spells of depression) (assassinated-shot in the
head) (the
> head of Aquarius is here) and 19th-century naturalist Charles Darwin
whose
> "The Origin of Species" (1859) caused intense controversy, unabated
to this
> day! (intestinal illness, fatigue, panic attacks) (Lincoln and
Darwin were
> born on the same day; each, without intending to, precipitated a
social and
> cultural revolution); the Sun as well of 16th-century jurist Sir Edward
> Coke, champion of English Common Law; 18th-century moral
> philosopher-economist-social and judicial reformer Jeremy Bentham,
> 18th-19th-century economist-demographer Thomas Malthus (theorized that
> population will always tend to outrun food supply, and the betterment of
> mankind is impossible without limits on reproduction), social
philosopher
> Auguste Comte, pioneer feminist Susan B Anthony, social reformer-utopian
> Charles Fourier, "formidable" one-woman social reformer Carrie Nation, a
> temperance advocate notorious for marching into barrooms singing,
praying,
> hurling biblical vituperations and smashing stock and fixtures with a
> hatchet, and UN Commissioner for Human Rights Sergio Vieira De Mello
(killed
> by Gulf War II terrorist bomb, Baghdad), This was Venus when Russian
serfs
> were emancipated, and at the inauguration of President Abraham
Lincoln, both
> in 1861.
>
> There are chart elements here of paradigm-shifting 15th-16th-century
> astrologer-astronomer-mathematician Copernicus, 16th-century
> astronomer-astrologer Tycho Brahe (nose cut off in a duel),
> 16th-17th-century astrologer-astronomer-mathematician Kepler,
17th-century
> astronomer-celestial cartographer Hevelius (proud of his unusually keen
> eyesight); naturalist-biologist-microscopy pioneer Swammerdam (deeply
> religious, unstable), 18th-century cartographer-geographer-surveyor
Aaron
> Arrowsmith and geologist-mineralogist Dolomieu, 18th-19th-century French
> Academy of Medicine founder Dr Joseph Guillotin, at whose urging (for a
> quick, painless means of capital punishment) the guillotine was
invented;
> photograpy  co-inventor J Nicephore Niepce, mathematician-physicist
> Jean-Baptiste Fourier, 19th-century explorer-naturalist-botanical
> collector-science patron Joseph Banks, naturalist Geoffroy St-Hilaire,
> pioneering
> geologist-ethnologist-anthropologist-conservationist-explorer-author Maj
> John Wesley Powell, 1st to voyage and map the length of the Grand
Canyon on
> the Colorado River, creator-publisher of the 1st classification of
American
> Indian languages (all this after he lost his lower right arm at the
Battle
> of Shiloh!), ethnologist-explorer Henry Rowe Schoolcraft, an early
important
> writer on American Indians;
> anthropologist-archaeologist-geologist-illustrator William H Holmes,
> astronomer Urbain Leverrier, pioneering 19th-early 20th-century
physicists
> Pierre Curie (crystallography, piezoelectricity, magnetism,
radioactivity)
> (head crushed in accident at 46), Marie Curie (discoverer of radium),
> physicist-chemist Otto Hahn (and born just 6 days later) physicist
Albert
> Einstein, nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman, a believer in UFO's;
> philosopher-mathematician Alfred North Whitehead, inventor Thomas Edison
> (became deaf), aircraft designer Willy Messerschmidt,
horticulturalist-plant
> breeder Luther Burbank, paleontologist Edward Drinker Cope,
anthropologist
> Margaret Mead and naturalist- primatologist-ethologist Jane Goodall
> (discoverer of tool making and tool use among primates) who travels and
> lectures about saving endangered animals, the environment (and
humankind!).
> These stars were transited at the Aries Ingress of 1313 when Chinese
> Magistrate Wang Chen, whose craftsmen had carved 60,000 characters on
> movable wooden blocks, published a treatise on the history of
technology,
> and in it mentioned the use of tin characters for printing (more than a
> century before printing developed in Europe); when the Aztec
Calendar Stone
> was discovered, Mexico City, 1760; at Neptune's discovery (cnj
Saturn) in
> 1846; when ancient Egyptian King Tutankhamen's tomb was opened in
1923; at
> the launch of Sputnik, the 1st artificial earth satellite, from Baikonur
> Cosmodrome, USSR in 1957, the start of the Space Age (and, as it
turned out,
> the Internet), in 1980 when Benoit Mandelbrot discovered "Mandelbrot
Sets"
> (fractals), "one of the most astonishing discoveries in the history of
> mathematics." This was Uranus (cnj Charles Darwin's Sun) in 1835,
when HMS
> Beagle arrived at the Galapagos Islands with Darwin on board;
observations
> of its fauna led to his revolutionary theory of natural selection and
> evolution. Piscis Austrinus, the Great Southern Fish, apparently
sponsors
> fossils: this was the 1822 Aries Ingress NNode the year Dr Gideon
Mantell
> discovered the 1st (aquatic) dinosaur bones in Sussex, Jupiter in
1938 when
> a live coelacanth, a 5-foot (1.52 m) "fossil fish" sourced in the
Devonian
> period (410-360 million years BP - predating the dinosaurs!), thought to
> have been extinct for over 80 million years, was caught off South
Africa,
> and Venus was here in 2006 when scientists announced they had found a
> 375-million-year-old tetrapod-fish "missing link" fossil in Canada's
> far-north Nunavut Territory, jokingly dubbing it a "fishapod;" Inuit
elders,
> asked to propose a formal name, chose "Tiktaalik" (Inuktikuk for "a
large,
> shallow-water fish") - all discoveries that caused great excitement
in the
> scientific world.
>
> ((Just felt like offering up a bit of a holiday gift, since the book has
> been delayed)
>
> Love, Diana
>
> Website: http://ye-stars.com
>

Mark Holmes (mahtezcatpoc@...) has sent you a news article.
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wrote:
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>
>
> Found: The Dimmest Bulbs in Space - Yahoo! News
>
>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20081215/sc_space/foundthedimmestbulbsin
space
>
>

Found: The Dimmest Bulbs in Space

SPACE.com Staff


space.com – Mon Dec 15, 8:30 am ET AP –

In this image provided by NASA shows a new image from NASA's Spitzer
Space Telescope showing a turbulent … A pair of failed stars takes
the record of being the dimmest bulbs ever detected, astronomers
find.


Each of the substellar objects, called brown dwarfs, is one million
times fainter than the sun in total light on the electromagnetic
spectrum, and at least one billion times fainter in visible light
alone.


A brown dwarf is a compact ball of gas floating freely in space
that's too cool and lightweight to generate the thermonuclear fusion
that powers real stars, but too warm and massive to be considered a
planet.


"These brown dwarfs are the lowest-power stellar light bulbs in the
sky that we know of," said lead researcher Adam Burgasser, a
physicist at MIT.


The findings were published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters on
Dec. 10.


Until now, astronomers thought this dim duo was a single, faint brown
dwarf. Past research has shown the object is the fifth closest known
brown dwarf to us, 17 light-years away toward the constellation
Antlia. One light-year is the distance light will travel in a year,
or about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion kilometers).


Here's how the team found the singlet was actually twins: They
observed the object in infrared light using NASA's Spitzer Space
Telescope. The data showed that what was still thought to be a single
object had a warm atmospheric temperature of 560 to 680 degrees
Fahrenheit (293 to 360 degrees Celsius). While this is hundreds of
degrees hotter than Jupiter, it's still downright cold as far as
stars go.


In fact, the brown dwarfs, called 2MASS J09393548-2448279, or 2M 0939
for short, are among the coldest brown dwarfs measured so far.


They also estimated the brightness, which they found to be twice what
would be expected for a brown dwarf with its particular temperature.
The solution: The object must have twice the surface area. So each
body shines only half as bright, and each has a mass of 30 to 40
times that of Jupiter.


Burgasser said that studying these objects could help astronomers
understand details of brown dwarf structure and evolution.


The work was funded in part by a NASA grant.

Right ascension 9h39m35.5s
Declination -24 48 28"

North of Theta Antliae near the Hydra border, where a hose might be
if the Air Pump had one attached to it. (Theta Antliae marks the
point where the hose would be attached to the pump.)


I'm calling this one Tenebricissima (Latin for "the dimmest").


Mark A. Holmes



>
> --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Holmes <mahtezcatpoc@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Mark Holmes (mahtezcatpoc@) has sent you a news article.
> > (Email address has not been verified.)
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Personal message:
> >
> >
> >
> > Found: The Dimmest Bulbs in Space - Yahoo! News
> >
> >
>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20081215/sc_space/foundthedimmestbulbsin
> space
> >
> >
>
> Found: The Dimmest Bulbs in Space
>
> SPACE.com Staff
>
>
> space.com – Mon Dec 15, 8:30 am ET AP –
>
> In this image provided by NASA shows a new image from NASA's
Spitzer
> Space Telescope showing a turbulent … A pair of failed stars takes
> the record of being the dimmest bulbs ever detected, astronomers
> find.
>
>
> Each of the substellar objects, called brown dwarfs, is one million
> times fainter than the sun in total light on the electromagnetic
> spectrum, and at least one billion times fainter in visible light
> alone.
>
>
> A brown dwarf is a compact ball of gas floating freely in space
> that's too cool and lightweight to generate the thermonuclear
fusion
> that powers real stars, but too warm and massive to be considered a
> planet.
>
>
> "These brown dwarfs are the lowest-power stellar light bulbs in the
> sky that we know of," said lead researcher Adam Burgasser, a
> physicist at MIT.
>
>
> The findings were published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters on
> Dec. 10.
>
>
> Until now, astronomers thought this dim duo was a single, faint
brown
> dwarf. Past research has shown the object is the fifth closest
known
> brown dwarf to us, 17 light-years away toward the constellation
> Antlia. One light-year is the distance light will travel in a year,
> or about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion kilometers).
>
>
> Here's how the team found the singlet was actually twins: They
> observed the object in infrared light using NASA's Spitzer Space
> Telescope. The data showed that what was still thought to be a
single
> object had a warm atmospheric temperature of 560 to 680 degrees
> Fahrenheit (293 to 360 degrees Celsius). While this is hundreds of
> degrees hotter than Jupiter, it's still downright cold as far as
> stars go.
>
>
> In fact, the brown dwarfs, called 2MASS J09393548-2448279, or 2M
0939
> for short, are among the coldest brown dwarfs measured so far.
>
>
> They also estimated the brightness, which they found to be twice
what
> would be expected for a brown dwarf with its particular
temperature.
> The solution: The object must have twice the surface area. So each
> body shines only half as bright, and each has a mass of 30 to 40
> times that of Jupiter.
>
>
> Burgasser said that studying these objects could help astronomers
> understand details of brown dwarf structure and evolution.
>
>
> The work was funded in part by a NASA grant.
>

MissB

As of midnight GMT.

Asterisks indicate alignments that weren't there a week ago today (with a 1 00'
orb).




Jupiter



*Van Biesbroeck's Star (Gliese 752 B Aquilae)

*Snowglobe Nebula (NGC 6781 Aquilae)

*Sulaphat (Gamma Lyrae)

*Cor Pavonis (Sigma Pavonis)

*Merrill's Star (Merrill 1-67 Sagittae)




Saturn



Kollarobos (21 Canum Venaticorum)

AM Canum Venaticorum (cataclysmic variable aka nova)

*M-94 (Canum Venaticorum; galaxy with suspected black hole)

NGC 4395 (Canum Venaticorum; galaxy with suspected black hole)

The Box (NGC 4169 Comae Berenices; a star cluster)

Sherasiph (Nu Hydrae)

Cat's Tail (44 Hydrae; marks the base of the tail of the obsolete constellation
Felis [the Cat])

*Denebola (Beta Leonis)

*Vela Vertex (black hole in Vela)



Uranus



Shih (Sigma Pegasi)

Fum al Samakah (Beta Piscium)




Neptune



LZ Aquarii (cataclysmic variable)

Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)

16 Cygni B (has planets)

Blinking Planetary (NGC 6826 Cygni)

S Doradus (super-brilliant star in Nubecula Major)

Gruid (Beta Gruis)

Phoenicopterus (Epsilon Gruis; a former name of Grus the Crane is
Phoenicopterus the Flamingo)

VW Hydri (cataclysmic variable)

Polophylax (Zeta Tucanae; marks the obsolete constellation Polophylax, the Pole
Guard)

TY Vulpeculae (cataclysmic variable)




Pluto



Baraka (Xi Herculis)

Ramo (95 Herculis; marks the obsolete constellation Ramo[(the Branch], aka
Cerberus, both represented as held in Hercules' left hand)

Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)

Fellah (67 Ophiuchi)

Barnard's Star (V2500 Ophiuchi)

*Lagoon Nebula (M-8 Sagittarii)

Trifid Nebula (M-20 Sagittarii)

DZ Serpentis (cataclysmic variable)




Eris



Termes Frederici (Psi Andromedae [marks the olive branch in the obsolete
constellation Frederici Honores [the Honors of Frederick])

FX Cephei

VV Cephei (cataclysmic variables)

*Revati (Zeta Piscium)




Ceres



*Thuban (Alpha Draconis)

*M-105 (Leonis; galaxy with suspected black hole)

*SW Sextantis (cataclysmic variable)

*Alula Australe (Xi Ursae Majoris)

*CU Velorum (cataclysmic variable)




Pallas



*Deneb Zirafah (Gamma Camelopardalis; marks the Giraffe's tail, hence the Arabic
name [mine])

*Opik (HD 1382 Camelopardalis)

*CI Camelopardalis (cataclysmic variable)

*Cursa (Beta Eridani)

*Witch Head Nebula (IC 2118 Eridani)

*Westbrook Nebula (CRL 618 Persei)

*RV Tauri




Juno



*AM Herculis (cataclysmic variable)

*Alathfar (Mu Lyrae)

*AQ Mensae (cataclysmic variable)

*Nanto (Phi Sagittarii)

*Ioannina (Alpha Scuti)

*FV Scuti (cataclysmic variable)

*FH Serpentis (cataclysmic variable)




Vesta



*Mirach (Beta Andromedae)

*Pearce's Star (AO Cassiopeiae)

*Bubble Nebula (NGC 7635 Cassiopeiae)

*Alsafi (Sigma Draconis)

Markarian 1 (Piscium; galaxy with suspected black hole)




Chiron



Albulaan Australis (Gamma Aquarii)

Marakk (Zeta Capricorni)

*Sualocin (Alpha Delphini)

Rotanev (Beta Delphini)

Kwa Chaou (Zeta Delphini)

Dhanistra (Theta Delphini)

Alnair (Alpha Gruis)

*Aldhanab (Gamma Gruis)

Tien Tsien (Iota Puppis)

EF Tucanae (cataclysmic variable)



North Node



Albali (Epsilon Aquarii)

*Markarian 409 (Aquarii; a variable galaxy)

*Tso Ke (Rho Aquilae)

*Foxhead Cluster (NGC 6819 Cygni)

*Foo Pih (Gamma Hydri)

*Shay Fuh (Nu Hydri)

Lucida Globi (Epsilon Microscopii; the brightest star in the obsolete
constellation Globus Aerostaticus [the Hot Air Balloon])

*47 Tucanae (NGC 104 Tucanae; aka Xi Tucanae; bright, highly resolved globular
cluster)




South Node



*Giansar (Lambda Draconis)

*Mawtinah (Delta Hydrae)

*Minchir (Sigma Hydrae)

Elvashak (Alpha Lyncis; aka Lynx)

*Maculosa (38 Lyncis)

*HS Puppis

HZ Puppis (cataclysmic variables)

*NGC 3079 (Ursae Majoris; galaxy with suspected black hole)




More later.




Mark A. Holmes

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> MissB
>


Let me set it up...

December 21, 2008
12:03:46 p.m. GMT
London



Moon

Arcturus (Alpha Bootis)
Spica (Alpha Virginis)


Sun


Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)



Mercury


Ascella (Zeta Sagittarii)
Manubrium (Omicron Sagittarii)


Venus


Alnair (Alpha Gruis)



Mars


Shaula (Lambda Scorpii)
Aculeus (M-6 Scorpii; the Butterfly Cluster)



Jupiter


Terebellum (Omega Sagittarii)



Saturn



Denebola (Beta Leonis)




Neptune


Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)



Pluto


Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)
Spiculum (M-18/M-20/M-21 Sagittarii)




Ceres



Zosma (Delta Leonis)


Juno


Rukbat (Alpha Sagittarii)


Vesta


Mirach (Beta Andromedae)
Alrisha (Alpha Piscium)



Chiron


Sualocin (Alpha Delphini)



Uranus, Eris and Pallas don't seem to be aligned with any of the stars
Robson, Ebertin, Rigor or Bernadette wrote about.



Mark A. Holmes

As of midnight GMT.

Asterisks indicate alignments that weren't there a week ago today (with a 1 00'
orb).




Jupiter



*Deneb Okab (Delta Aquilae)

*Pereira's Star (V1494 Aquilae; aka Nova Aquilae #2 1999; discovered by
Portuguese amateur astronomer Alfredo Pereira of Cabo da Roca, Portugal)

*Peacock (Alpha Pavonis)




Saturn



Kollarobos (21 Canum Venaticorum)

AM Canum Venaticorum (cataclysmic variable aka nova)

M-94 (Canum Venaticorum; galaxy with suspected black hole)

NGC 4395 (Canum Venaticorum; galaxy with suspected black hole)

The Box (NGC 4169 Comae Berenices; a star cluster)

Sherasiph (Nu Hydrae)

Cat's Tail (44 Hydrae; marks the base of the tail of the obsolete constellation
Felis [the Cat])

Denebola (Beta Leonis)

*UX Ursae Majoris (cataclysmic variable)

Vela Vertex (black hole in Vela)





Uranus



Shih (Sigma Pegasi)

Fum al Samakah (Beta Piscium)




Neptune



LZ Aquarii (cataclysmic variable)

Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)

16 Cygni B (has planets)

Blinking Planetary (NGC 6826 Cygni)

S Doradus (super-brilliant star in Nubecula Major)

Gruid (Beta Gruis)

Phoenicopterus (Epsilon Gruis; a former name of Grus the Crane is
Phoenicopterus the Flamingo)

VW Hydri (cataclysmic variable)

Polophylax (Zeta Tucanae; marks the obsolete constellation Polophylax, the Pole
Guard)

TY Vulpeculae (cataclysmic variable)




Pluto



*Tao Shou (Theta Arae)

Ramo (95 Herculis; marks the obsolete constellation Ramo[(the Branch], aka
Cerberus, both represented as held in Hercules' left hand)

Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)

Fellah (67 Ophiuchi)

Barnard's Star (V2500 Ophiuchi)

Lagoon Nebula (M-8 Sagittarii)

Trifid Nebula (M-20 Sagittarii)

*M-21 (Sagittarii; open cluster)

*Spiculum (M-18/M-20/M-21 Sagittarii)

DZ Serpentis (cataclysmic variable)




Eris



Termes Frederici (Psi Andromedae [marks the olive branch in the obsolete
constellation Frederici Honores [the Honors of Frederick])

FX Cephei

VV Cephei (cataclysmic variables)

Revati (Zeta Piscium)




Ceres



*Theta Antliae

M-105 (Leonis; galaxy with suspected black hole)

*Alioth (Epsilon Ursae Majoris)

*Coddington Nebula (IC 2574 Ursae Majoris)




Pallas



*Oyster Nebula (NGC 1501 Camelopardalis)

*Batenateban Australis (Phi Draconis)

*Sasin (Epsilon Leporis)

*Hind's Crimson Star (R Leporis)

*Tabit (Pi-3 Orionis)

*LkCa 15 (Tauri)



Juno



*HD 181433 (Pavonis; has planets)

*Ain al Rami (Nu Sagittarii)

*Nunki (Sigma Sagittarii)

*Ross 154 (Sagittarii)

*Tien Pien (Beta Scuti)



Vesta



Mirach (Beta Andromedae)

Pearce's Star (AO Cassiopeiae)

Bubble Nebula (NGC 7635 Cassiopeiae)

*BO Ceti (cataclysmic variable)

Alsafi (Sigma Draconis)

*Alrisha (Alpha Piscium)

Markarian 1 (Piscium; galaxy with suspected black hole)




Chiron



Albulaan Australis (Gamma Aquarii)

Marakk (Zeta Capricorni)

Sualocin (Alpha Delphini)

Rotanev (Beta Delphini)

Dhanistra (Theta Delphini)

Alnair (Alpha Gruis)

Aldhanab (Gamma Gruis)

*Ghost-Ring Nebula (IC 5148/5150 Gruis)

Tien Tsien (Iota Puppis)

EF Tucanae (cataclysmic variable)



North Node



Albali (Epsilon Aquarii)

Markarian 409 (Aquarii; a variable galaxy)

Tso Ke (Rho Aquilae)

*Chi Cygni

Foxhead Cluster (NGC 6819 Cygni)

Foo Pih (Gamma Hydri)

Shay Fuh (Nu Hydri)

47 Tucanae (NGC 104 Tucanae; aka Xi Tucanae; bright, highly resolved globular
cluster)




South Node



Giansar (Lambda Draconis)

Mawtinah (Delta Hydrae)

Minchir (Sigma Hydrae)

Maculosa (38 Lyncis)

*NGC 2778 (Lyncis; galaxy with suspected black hole)

HS Puppis (cataclysmic variables)

NGC 3079 (Ursae Majoris; galaxy with suspected black hole)




More later.




Mark A. Holmes

As of midnight GMT.

Asterisks indicate alignments that weren't there a week ago today (with a 1 00'
orb).




Jupiter



*Sung (35 Aquilae)

*NGC 6814 (Aquilae; galaxy with suspected black hole)

Peacock (Alpha Pavonis)

*Phi-2 Pavonis (has planets)

*Little Gem Nebula (NGC 6818 Sagittarii)

*Tigris (1 Vulpeculae; marks the obsolete constellation Tigris, the River
Tigris)



Saturn



AM Canum Venaticorum (cataclysmic variable aka nova)

M-94 (Canum Venaticorum; galaxy with suspected black hole)

NGC 4395 (Canum Venaticorum; galaxy with suspected black hole)

Sherasiph (Nu Hydrae)

Denebola (Beta Leonis)

UX Ursae Majoris (cataclysmic variable)




Uranus



Shih (Sigma Pegasi)

Fum al Samakah (Beta Piscium)




Neptune



LZ Aquarii (cataclysmic variable)

Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)

16 Cygni B (has planets)

Blinking Planetary (NGC 6826 Cygni)

S Doradus (super-brilliant star in Nubecula Major)

Gruid (Beta Gruis)

VW Hydri (cataclysmic variable)

Polophylax (Zeta Tucanae; marks the obsolete constellation Polophylax, the Pole
Guard)

TY Vulpeculae (cataclysmic variable)




Pluto



Tao Shou (Theta Arae)

Ramo (95 Herculis; marks the obsolete constellation Ramo[(the Branch], aka
Cerberus, both represented as held in Hercules' left hand)

Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)

Fellah (67 Ophiuchi)

*Alnasl (Gamma Sagittarii)

Lagoon Nebula (M-8 Sagittarii)

Trifid Nebula (M-20 Sagittarii)

M-21 (Sagittarii; open cluster)

Spiculum (M-18/M-20/M-21 Sagittarii)

*Red Spider Nebula (NGC 6537 Sagittarii)

*Barnard's Galaxy (NGC 6822 Sagittarii)

DZ Serpentis (cataclysmic variable)




Eris



Termes Frederici (Psi Andromedae [marks the olive branch in the obsolete
constellation Frederici Honores [the Honors of Frederick])

FX Cephei

VV Cephei (cataclysmic variables)

*Epsilon Reticuli (has planets)

Revati (Zeta Piscium)




Ceres



Theta Antliae

*M-106 (Canum Venaticorum; galaxy with suspected black hole)

*Zosma (Delta Leonis)

*Leo II Dwarf Galaxy (UGC 6253 Leonis)

*Alsuhail (Lambda Velorum)



Pallas



*Aldebaran (Alpha Tauri)

*UX Tauri



Juno



*Alfecca Meridiana (Alpha Coronae Australis)

*Myrtus (Beta Coronae Australis)

*Vega (Alpha Lyrae)

*Manubrium (Omicron Sagittarii)

*Hecatebolus (Tau Sagittarii)



Vesta



Mirach (Beta Andromedae)

Pearce's Star (AO Cassiopeiae)

Bubble Nebula (NGC 7635 Cassiopeiae)

BO Ceti (cataclysmic variable)

Alsafi (Sigma Draconis)

Alrisha (Alpha Piscium)

Markarian 1 (Piscium; galaxy with suspected black hole)




Chiron



Albulaan Australis (Gamma Aquarii)

Marakk (Zeta Capricorni)

Sualocin (Alpha Delphini)

Rotanev (Beta Delphini)

*Al Salib (Delta Delphini)

Dhanistra (Theta Delphini)

Aldhanab (Gamma Gruis)

Ghost-Ring Nebula (IC 5148/5150 Gruis)

Tien Tsien (Iota Puppis)

EF Tucanae (cataclysmic variable)



North Node



Markarian 409 (Aquarii; a variable galaxy)

Tso Ke (Rho Aquilae)

Chi Cygni

*HD 187123 (Cygni; has planets)

Foxhead Cluster (NGC 6819 Cygni)

*Struve 2398 (Draconis; nearby star)

Foo Pih (Gamma Hydri)

Shay Fuh (Nu Hydri)

*Epsilon Indi (well-known nearby star)

*Lucida Tucanae (Alpha Tucanae)




South Node



*OJ 287 (Cancri; BL Lacertae object)

Giansar (Lambda Draconis)

Mawtinah (Delta Hydrae)

Maculosa (38 Lyncis)

NGC 2778 (Lyncis; galaxy with suspected black hole)

*Hadir (Sigma Puppis)

HS Puppis (cataclysmic variables)

NGC 3079 (Ursae Majoris; galaxy with suspected black hole)




More later.




Mark A. Holmes

n/t


Mark A. Holmes

And to you too! Any Wassail going around? :) MissB


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> n/t
>
>
> Mark A. Holmes
>

Comments inserted.... took a few lines from Ann Wrights pages at
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/
for convenience sake here. also I use + for North declinations and -
for south declinations in case anyone gets confused by my notation.
just because its is closer on keyboard to numbers the S & N :)
everything quoted is from Ann's page, and the sources she gives
included. I made a few comments,

>
> December 21, 2008
> 12:03:46 p.m. GMT
> London
>
>
>
> Moon
>
> Arcturus (Alpha Bootis)
star in the knee of the herdsman,
With Moon: New friends, business success, good judgment, domestic
harmony. If with Mars also, danger of death by suffocation. [Robson*,
p.139.]
> Spica (Alpha Virginis)
signifies the spear of wheat in the Virgins hand (we are all
concerned with harvest in hard times I think)
Robson says the moon with Spica brings gains through inventions ,
success, wealth and honor from Mercury,venus or Jupitor People.
>
>
> Sun
> Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)
>
"gives an imoral mean and slovenly nature." anne wright page

Beth - Declination is -26 which aligns it more closely with
Spiculum who is at 1 Cap but whose Declination is at -24
(sun is between these two but moving toward Spiculum)
on the Cluster of Stars on the Bow of Sagitarius
The means of launching new things? possibly?

> Mercury (14 cap 13 declination - 24.53)
> Ascella (Zeta Sagittarii)2000 13 Cap 38 - declination -29.53
ARmpit of the ARcher (String arm) mercury(communication) the means of
launching new things possibly?

Of the nature of Jupiter and Mercury. It gives good fortune and
happiness. [Robson*, p.141.]

> Manubrium (Omicron Sagittarii)in 2000 14 Cap 59 -21.44
Star is called the handle?
Beth - is in the face of the archer - possibly further denoting
speach or communication?

"Part of the cluster in the Archer's Face. Of the nature of the Sun
and Mars. It causes blindness, explosions, fire, flaring heat,
heroism, courage, and defiance." [Robson*, p.173-174.]

To find a major planet in a chart very precisely on Manubrium rather
than its neighbors (which are very close in longitude) is likely to
show up the more aggressive connotations of the constellation and
sign here, we should often find less of the philosopher than the high-
performance athlete or the high court judge. The military strategist
is also likely to have this star strong. [The Living Stars, Dr. Eric
Morse, p.96-97.]

> Venus 15 Aqu 35 -18 declination

> Alnair (Alpha Gruis) 15 Aqu 54 -46.58 declination
Star marking the body of the Crane -
A retiring, active, proud, watchful, kind, idealistic and devoted
nature, with a liking for astronomy. [Robson*, p.46.]

Beth-cranes are thought ot be bringers of fortune by most cultures.
They are beautiful to look at so Venus here makes me wonder at
possibly seeing some of the arts highlighted for a bit.


> Mars - 25 sag 41 -23.58 declination

> Shaula (Lambda Scorpii)24 sag 35 and -37 declination
> Aculeus (M-6 Scorpii; the Butterfly Cluster)25 sag 44 -32
declination
companion star to Acumen, located int eh stinger
"The Scorpion presides over arms" [Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century
AD, book 4, p.253]
Notorious Blind Star.

Beth - many references to striking achilles heel, etc. the star is of
the nature of mars and Moon so mars aligned probably brings out Mars
nature.??? I would think?
>
> Jupiter - 26 cap 33 and -21 dec
>
> Terebellum (Omega Sagittarii)25 cap 51 -26 dec
in the point of the arrow of Sagitarius - ( beth note: which
continues the theme of launching new things, and since jupiter
generally means good things let us hope that to be true, especially
as jupiter is the ruler of Sagitarius. :)

It gives a fortune but with regret and disgrace, cunning, a mercenary
nature and repulsiveness. [Robson*, p.213.].

"As for the Archer, when the foremost portion of his cloak rises, he
will give birth to hearts renowned in war and will conduct the
conqueror, celebrating great triumphs in the sight of all, to his
country's citadels. Such a one will build high walls (moenia from
Latin murus) one moment and pull them down the next. But if Fortune
favours them too generously with success, the mark of her envy is to
be seen on their faces, for she works cruel havoc upon their
features. So was it that a dread warrior* paid for his victories at
the Trebia, Cannae, and the Lake, even before the hour of his
retreat, with such disfigurement." [Translator's note: *Hanibal who
lost an eye (Livy 22.2.11: Sagittarius is one-eyed; see p.103)
[Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century AD, book 4, p.267]


> Saturn  21 Virgo 40 +5 dec
Beth : Saturn is debilitated in Leo and though in tropical zodiac he
appears to be in Virgo, on paper that is, in the sky he is still in
Leo. He will move in the sky out of Leo Next September, Which I
expect to see some improvement in the world by then.

> Denebola (Beta Leonis)21 Virgo 37 and +14
tail of the lion
According to Ptolemy Denebola is of the nature of Saturn and Venus;
to Wilson and Pearce, of Saturn, Venus and Mercury; to Simmonite, of
Uranus; and, to Alvidas, of Mercury, Uranus and Mars. It gives swift
judgment, despair, regrets, public disgrace, misfortune from the
elements of nature, and happiness turned to anger, and makes its
natives noble, daring, self-controlled, generous and busy with other
people's affairs. [Robson*, p.160-161.]

The 'Tail of the Lion' has a Uranian nature and it is supposed that,
in mundane horoscopes, major catastrophes are triggered off by it.
Depending on the position and aspect to other stellar bodies in a
personal cosmogram, either preferment or fall are credited to this
star. Found on the Ascendant and especially in company with Mercury,
a quarrelsome nature, with a liking for legal action is attributed to
Denebola. It could also mean that this star is the cause of very
exciting events. Badly placed in a map, with Mercury or Uranus,
mental diseases - and those mostly incurable ones - are indicated.
Fine aspects however, will further work connected with matters of
reform and progress. [Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth
Ebertin, 1928, p.56.]

in a birth chart.
With Saturn: Critical, always complaining, many enemies, loss through
servants and thieves, unfortunate life, domestic sorrow, wife
afflicted or children mentally unsound or deformed. [Robson*, p.162.]
Beth - which mundanely may manifest as a lot of protests and domestic
unrest I should think.

Uranus - 18 Pis 59 -5 dec
Beth - closest fixed star I can find is Homam in Pegasus, but it is
at 16 Pisces so far enough away that probably dont want to apply too
loosly, though I think that the SAturn Uranus opposition is a very
apt description of Pegasus Syndrome.

> Neptune 22 Aqu 08 -14 dec

> Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)21 Aqu 47 -16 dec
in the tail of the goat, The star is considered the bringer of good
fortune

Legend: During their war with the giants, the Gods were driven into
Egypt and pursued by Typhon. In order to escape, each was forced to
change his shape, and Pan, leaping into the Nile, turned the upper
part of his body into a goat and the lower part into a fish, a shape
considered by Jupiter worthy of commemoration in the heavens.
[Robson*, p.35.]

According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Saturn and Jupiter; and,
to Simmonite, of Saturn. It causes overcoming by evil, which is
turned to success, and gives danger from beasts. [Robson*, p.179.]

This star is also related to Justice.

> Pluto 0.52 Cap and -18 dec
> Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)
> Spiculum (M-18/M-20/M-21 Sagittarii)

Beth - I think Pluto as well as sun here may refer to changing of the
guard in management (government, business, religion, where ever
management is found there will be a tearing down and building up anew
where it doesn't work well) my interpretation others may vary the
whole bow and arrow thing, makes me think launching of new things.
>
> Ceres 12 Virgo 04 +17

> Zosma (Delta Leonis)11 Virgo 19 +20
on lions Rump
Of the nature of Saturn and Venus. It causes benefit by disgrace,
selfishness, egotism, immorality, meanness, melancholy, unhappiness
of mind and fear of poison, and gives an unreasonable, shameless and
egotistical nature. [Robson*, p.219.]

Ability to prophesy. On the Euphrates the star theta (¦È Coxa), along
with this star delta (¦Ä Zosma), was the god Kua, the Oracle. [Fixed
Stars and Judicial Astrology, George Noonan, 1990, p.32.]
>
>
> Juno 17 Cap 41 -14 dec
Beth - The mother Figure connected to the knee of Sagitarius is a
very interesting idea, it connects mother and travel or movement,
possibly this is the signifier of the change and care of the auto
industry? it needs some parenting? both in helping it change to a
healthier industry but also nursing it along?
> Rukbat (Alpha Sagittarii)16 Cap 38 -18 dec
knee of Sagitarius

>
>
> Vesta 29 Aries 39 +4 - tender of the hearth

> Mirach (Beta Andromedae)0 tau 24 +35 dec
yellow star in girdle of chained woman
According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Venus; and, to Alvidas,
of Mars and the Moon. It gives personal beauty, a brilliant mind, a
love of home, great devotion, beneficence, forgiveness, love,
overcoming by kindness, renown, and good fortune in marriage.
[Robson*, p.178.] (Beth - which sounds very Vesta like doesn't it?)

Legend: Andromeda, the original "maiden in distress" is daughter of
Cepheus, king of Ethiopeia, and his wife Cassiopeia. Cassiopeia was
proud of her daughter's beauty and boasted that Andromeda was more
beautiful than the Sea Nymphs, the Nereids, who were daughters of
Poseidon (Neptune). The Nereids complained to Poseidon who sent a sea
monster (Cetus) to ravage the coast. With his kingdom in grave
danger, Cepheus consulted the oracle of Ammon in Libya for advice. He
learned the only way to save his kingdom was to sacrifice his
daughter, Andromeda, to the sea monster. Andromeda is chained to a
rock and left to the mercy of the monster. The hero, Perseus, riding
through the air on winged sandals arrives at the scene and they fall
in love. Perseus had a quick consultation with Cepheus and
Cassiopeia; it is agreed that if he rescues their daughter, he could
marry her. The sea monster (Cetus) arrives and Perseus kills it by
turning it to stone with the Medusa's Head (Algol). Perseus breaks
the chains that bound Andromeda to the rock and frees her. The
wedding follows.

According to Ptolemy the influence of this constellation is similar
to that of Venus, though the legend would lead one to suppose some
connection with Virgo. It is said to bestow purity of thought,
virtue, honor and dignity upon its natives, but to cause battle with
chimerical (wildly fanciful, highly improbable) fears and a tendency
to become easily discouraged. It gives love between husband and wife
and reconciles adulterers. If Mars afflicts the luminaries from
Andromeda and especially if in an angle, it causes death by hanging,
decapitation, crucifixion or impalement. By the Kabalists it is
associated with the Hebrew letter P¨¦ and the 17th Tarot Trump, The
Stars. [Robson*, p.26.]


> Alrisha (Alpha Piscium)29 Aries 23 +2 dec
Legend: Venus and her son Cupid while sitting on the bank of the
Euphrates suddenly saw Typhon, the enemy of the Gods, approaching
them. They leapt into the river and were saved from drowning by two
fishes, who were afterwards placed in the heavens by Venus in
gratitude for their help. [Robson*, p.57.]


> Chiron 17 aqu 44 -9 dec
Beth - wounded healer aligned with the warrior philosophers of the
sea.


> Sualocin (Alpha Delphini) 17 Aqu 23 +16 dec

Legend: When Amphitrite, who was sought as a wife by Neptune, hid
herself, the God sent messengers to find her. The dolphin was the
first to succeed and persuaded her to consent to the marriage, for
which service Neptune placed him in the heavens. According to other
accounts it is one of the pirates who were changed into dolphins by
Bacchus on his voyage to Ariadne. [Robson*, p.42.]

Pholus and Kuma (draco) are aligned, Beth - both represent someone
who was assigned the task of protecting something.

Varuna aligned with Castor

Varuna - Hindu God of water/having dominion over the oceans.
Castor is the Mortal Twin - (castor sometimes called hercules)

"The arms to shoulders joined are accounted to the Twins" [Manilius,
p.119]

From the Twins come less laborious callings and a more agreeable way
of life, provided by varied song and voices of harmonious tone,
slender pipes, the melodies inborn in strings and the words fitted
thereto: those so endowed find even work a pleasure. They would
banish the arms of war, the trumpet's call, and the gloom of old age:
theirs is a life of ease and unfading youth spent in the arms of
love. They also discover paths to the skies, complete a survey of the
heavens with numbers and measurements, and outstrip the flight of the
stars: nature yields to their genius, which it serves in all things.
So many are the accomplishments of which the Twins are fruitful.
[Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century AD. p.281.]

Both Varuna and Castor are linked to Jupiter so may give a jupiter
influence here.

>
>
> Uranus, Eris and Pallas don't seem to be aligned with any of the
stars
> Robson, Ebertin, Rigor or Bernadette wrote about.
>
>
>
> Mark A. Holmes
>

well that is the gist of the themes I've collected thus far,

MissB

Hi,

Fine you put it here! Today as there is Mercury and Persephone
conjoining in Capricorn, I know  what Sun-Pluto likes a lot...

Outi


--- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "msbhavens1" <msbhavens1@...>
wrote:
>
> Comments inserted.... took a few lines from Ann Wrights pages at
> http://www.constellationsofwords.com/
> for convenience sake here. also I use + for North declinations and -
> for south declinations in case anyone gets confused by my notation.
> just because its is closer on keyboard to numbers the S & N :)
> everything quoted is from Ann's page, and the sources she gives
> included. I made a few comments,
>
> >
> > December 21, 2008
> > 12:03:46 p.m. GMT
> > London
> >
> >
> >
> > Moon
> >
> > Arcturus (Alpha Bootis)
> star in the knee of the herdsman,
> With Moon: New friends, business success, good judgment, domestic
> harmony. If with Mars also, danger of death by suffocation. [Robson*,
> p.139.]
> > Spica (Alpha Virginis)
> signifies the spear of wheat in the Virgins hand (we are all
> concerned with harvest in hard times I think)
> Robson says the moon with Spica brings gains through inventions ,
> success, wealth and honor from Mercury,venus or Jupitor People.
> >
> >
> > Sun
> > Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)
> >
> "gives an imoral mean and slovenly nature." anne wright page
>
> Beth - Declination is -26 which aligns it more closely with
> Spiculum who is at 1 Cap but whose Declination is at -24
> (sun is between these two but moving toward Spiculum)
> on the Cluster of Stars on the Bow of Sagitarius
> The means of launching new things? possibly?
>
> > Mercury (14 cap 13 declination - 24.53)
> > Ascella (Zeta Sagittarii)2000 13 Cap 38 - declination -29.53
> ARmpit of the ARcher (String arm) mercury(communication) the means of
> launching new things possibly?
>
> Of the nature of Jupiter and Mercury. It gives good fortune and
> happiness. [Robson*, p.141.]
>
> > Manubrium (Omicron Sagittarii)in 2000 14 Cap 59 -21.44
> Star is called the handle?
> Beth - is in the face of the archer - possibly further denoting
> speach or communication?
>
> "Part of the cluster in the Archer's Face. Of the nature of the Sun
> and Mars. It causes blindness, explosions, fire, flaring heat,
> heroism, courage, and defiance." [Robson*, p.173-174.]
>
> To find a major planet in a chart very precisely on Manubrium rather
> than its neighbors (which are very close in longitude) is likely to
> show up the more aggressive connotations of the constellation and
> sign here, we should often find less of the philosopher than the high-
> performance athlete or the high court judge. The military strategist
> is also likely to have this star strong. [The Living Stars, Dr. Eric
> Morse, p.96-97.]
>
> > Venus 15 Aqu 35 -18 declination
>
> > Alnair (Alpha Gruis) 15 Aqu 54 -46.58 declination
> Star marking the body of the Crane -
> A retiring, active, proud, watchful, kind, idealistic and devoted
> nature, with a liking for astronomy. [Robson*, p.46.]
>
> Beth-cranes are thought ot be bringers of fortune by most cultures.
> They are beautiful to look at so Venus here makes me wonder at
> possibly seeing some of the arts highlighted for a bit.
>
>
> > Mars - 25 sag 41 -23.58 declination
>
> > Shaula (Lambda Scorpii)24 sag 35 and -37 declination
> > Aculeus (M-6 Scorpii; the Butterfly Cluster)25 sag 44 -32
> declination
> companion star to Acumen, located int eh stinger
> "The Scorpion presides over arms" [Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century
> AD, book 4, p.253]
> Notorious Blind Star.
>
> Beth - many references to striking achilles heel, etc. the star is of
> the nature of mars and Moon so mars aligned probably brings out Mars
> nature.??? I would think?
> >
> > Jupiter - 26 cap 33 and -21 dec
> >
> > Terebellum (Omega Sagittarii)25 cap 51 -26 dec
> in the point of the arrow of Sagitarius - ( beth note: which
> continues the theme of launching new things, and since jupiter
> generally means good things let us hope that to be true, especially
> as jupiter is the ruler of Sagitarius. :)
>
> It gives a fortune but with regret and disgrace, cunning, a mercenary
> nature and repulsiveness. [Robson*, p.213.].
>
> "As for the Archer, when the foremost portion of his cloak rises, he
> will give birth to hearts renowned in war and will conduct the
> conqueror, celebrating great triumphs in the sight of all, to his
> country's citadels. Such a one will build high walls (moenia from
> Latin murus) one moment and pull them down the next. But if Fortune
> favours them too generously with success, the mark of her envy is to
> be seen on their faces, for she works cruel havoc upon their
> features. So was it that a dread warrior* paid for his victories at
> the Trebia, Cannae, and the Lake, even before the hour of his
> retreat, with such disfigurement." [Translator's note: *Hanibal who
> lost an eye (Livy 22.2.11: Sagittarius is one-eyed; see p.103)
> [Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century AD, book 4, p.267]
>
>
> > Saturn  21 Virgo 40 +5 dec
> Beth : Saturn is debilitated in Leo and though in tropical zodiac he
> appears to be in Virgo, on paper that is, in the sky he is still in
> Leo. He will move in the sky out of Leo Next September, Which I
> expect to see some improvement in the world by then.
>
> > Denebola (Beta Leonis)21 Virgo 37 and +14
> tail of the lion
> According to Ptolemy Denebola is of the nature of Saturn and Venus;
> to Wilson and Pearce, of Saturn, Venus and Mercury; to Simmonite, of
> Uranus; and, to Alvidas, of Mercury, Uranus and Mars. It gives swift
> judgment, despair, regrets, public disgrace, misfortune from the
> elements of nature, and happiness turned to anger, and makes its
> natives noble, daring, self-controlled, generous and busy with other
> people's affairs. [Robson*, p.160-161.]
>
> The 'Tail of the Lion' has a Uranian nature and it is supposed that,
> in mundane horoscopes, major catastrophes are triggered off by it.
> Depending on the position and aspect to other stellar bodies in a
> personal cosmogram, either preferment or fall are credited to this
> star. Found on the Ascendant and especially in company with Mercury,
> a quarrelsome nature, with a liking for legal action is attributed to
> Denebola. It could also mean that this star is the cause of very
> exciting events. Badly placed in a map, with Mercury or Uranus,
> mental diseases - and those mostly incurable ones - are indicated.
> Fine aspects however, will further work connected with matters of
> reform and progress. [Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth
> Ebertin, 1928, p.56.]
>
> in a birth chart.
> With Saturn: Critical, always complaining, many enemies, loss through
> servants and thieves, unfortunate life, domestic sorrow, wife
> afflicted or children mentally unsound or deformed. [Robson*, p.162.]
> Beth - which mundanely may manifest as a lot of protests and domestic
> unrest I should think.
>
> Uranus - 18 Pis 59 -5 dec
> Beth - closest fixed star I can find is Homam in Pegasus, but it is
> at 16 Pisces so far enough away that probably dont want to apply too
> loosly, though I think that the SAturn Uranus opposition is a very
> apt description of Pegasus Syndrome.
>
> > Neptune 22 Aqu 08 -14 dec
>
> > Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)21 Aqu 47 -16 dec
> in the tail of the goat, The star is considered the bringer of good
> fortune
>
> Legend: During their war with the giants, the Gods were driven into
> Egypt and pursued by Typhon. In order to escape, each was forced to
> change his shape, and Pan, leaping into the Nile, turned the upper
> part of his body into a goat and the lower part into a fish, a shape
> considered by Jupiter worthy of commemoration in the heavens.
> [Robson*, p.35.]
>
> According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Saturn and Jupiter; and,
> to Simmonite, of Saturn. It causes overcoming by evil, which is
> turned to success, and gives danger from beasts. [Robson*, p.179.]
>
> This star is also related to Justice.
>
> > Pluto 0.52 Cap and -18 dec
> > Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)
> > Spiculum (M-18/M-20/M-21 Sagittarii)
>
> Beth - I think Pluto as well as sun here may refer to changing of the
> guard in management (government, business, religion, where ever
> management is found there will be a tearing down and building up anew
> where it doesn't work well) my interpretation others may vary the
> whole bow and arrow thing, makes me think launching of new things.
> >
> > Ceres 12 Virgo 04 +17
>
> > Zosma (Delta Leonis)11 Virgo 19 +20
> on lions Rump
> Of the nature of Saturn and Venus. It causes benefit by disgrace,
> selfishness, egotism, immorality, meanness, melancholy, unhappiness
> of mind and fear of poison, and gives an unreasonable, shameless and
> egotistical nature. [Robson*, p.219.]
>
> Ability to prophesy. On the Euphrates the star theta (¦È Coxa),
along
> with this star delta (¦Ä Zosma), was the god Kua, the Oracle.
[Fixed
> Stars and Judicial Astrology, George Noonan, 1990, p.32.]
> >
> >
> > Juno 17 Cap 41 -14 dec
> Beth - The mother Figure connected to the knee of Sagitarius is a
> very interesting idea, it connects mother and travel or movement,
> possibly this is the signifier of the change and care of the auto
> industry? it needs some parenting? both in helping it change to a
> healthier industry but also nursing it along?
> > Rukbat (Alpha Sagittarii)16 Cap 38 -18 dec
> knee of Sagitarius
>
> >
> >
> > Vesta 29 Aries 39 +4 - tender of the hearth
>
> > Mirach (Beta Andromedae)0 tau 24 +35 dec
> yellow star in girdle of chained woman
> According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Venus; and, to Alvidas,
> of Mars and the Moon. It gives personal beauty, a brilliant mind, a
> love of home, great devotion, beneficence, forgiveness, love,
> overcoming by kindness, renown, and good fortune in marriage.
> [Robson*, p.178.] (Beth - which sounds very Vesta like doesn't it?)
>
> Legend: Andromeda, the original "maiden in distress" is daughter of
> Cepheus, king of Ethiopeia, and his wife Cassiopeia. Cassiopeia was
> proud of her daughter's beauty and boasted that Andromeda was more
> beautiful than the Sea Nymphs, the Nereids, who were daughters of
> Poseidon (Neptune). The Nereids complained to Poseidon who sent a sea
> monster (Cetus) to ravage the coast. With his kingdom in grave
> danger, Cepheus consulted the oracle of Ammon in Libya for advice. He
> learned the only way to save his kingdom was to sacrifice his
> daughter, Andromeda, to the sea monster. Andromeda is chained to a
> rock and left to the mercy of the monster. The hero, Perseus, riding
> through the air on winged sandals arrives at the scene and they fall
> in love. Perseus had a quick consultation with Cepheus and
> Cassiopeia; it is agreed that if he rescues their daughter, he could
> marry her. The sea monster (Cetus) arrives and Perseus kills it by
> turning it to stone with the Medusa's Head (Algol). Perseus breaks
> the chains that bound Andromeda to the rock and frees her. The
> wedding follows.
>
> According to Ptolemy the influence of this constellation is similar
> to that of Venus, though the legend would lead one to suppose some
> connection with Virgo. It is said to bestow purity of thought,
> virtue, honor and dignity upon its natives, but to cause battle with
> chimerical (wildly fanciful, highly improbable) fears and a tendency
> to become easily discouraged. It gives love between husband and wife
> and reconciles adulterers. If Mars afflicts the luminaries from
> Andromeda and especially if in an angle, it causes death by hanging,
> decapitation, crucifixion or impalement. By the Kabalists it is
> associated with the Hebrew letter P¨¦ and the 17th Tarot Trump, The
> Stars. [Robson*, p.26.]
>
>
> > Alrisha (Alpha Piscium)29 Aries 23 +2 dec
> Legend: Venus and her son Cupid while sitting on the bank of the
> Euphrates suddenly saw Typhon, the enemy of the Gods, approaching
> them. They leapt into the river and were saved from drowning by two
> fishes, who were afterwards placed in the heavens by Venus in
> gratitude for their help. [Robson*, p.57.]
>
>
> > Chiron 17 aqu 44 -9 dec
> Beth - wounded healer aligned with the warrior philosophers of the
> sea.
>
>
> > Sualocin (Alpha Delphini) 17 Aqu 23 +16 dec
>
> Legend: When Amphitrite, who was sought as a wife by Neptune, hid
> herself, the God sent messengers to find her. The dolphin was the
> first to succeed and persuaded her to consent to the marriage, for
> which service Neptune placed him in the heavens. According to other
> accounts it is one of the pirates who were changed into dolphins by
> Bacchus on his voyage to Ariadne. [Robson*, p.42.]
>
> Pholus and Kuma (draco) are aligned, Beth - both represent someone
> who was assigned the task of protecting something.
>
> Varuna aligned with Castor
>
> Varuna - Hindu God of water/having dominion over the oceans.
> Castor is the Mortal Twin - (castor sometimes called hercules)
>
> "The arms to shoulders joined are accounted to the Twins" [Manilius,
> p.119]
>
> From the Twins come less laborious callings and a more agreeable way
> of life, provided by varied song and voices of harmonious tone,
> slender pipes, the melodies inborn in strings and the words fitted
> thereto: those so endowed find even work a pleasure. They would
> banish the arms of war, the trumpet's call, and the gloom of old age:
> theirs is a life of ease and unfading youth spent in the arms of
> love. They also discover paths to the skies, complete a survey of the
> heavens with numbers and measurements, and outstrip the flight of the
> stars: nature yields to their genius, which it serves in all things.
> So many are the accomplishments of which the Twins are fruitful.
> [Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century AD. p.281.]
>
> Both Varuna and Castor are linked to Jupiter so may give a jupiter
> influence here.
>
> >
> >
> > Uranus, Eris and Pallas don't seem to be aligned with any of the
> stars
> > Robson, Ebertin, Rigor or Bernadette wrote about.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark A. Holmes
> >
>
> well that is the gist of the themes I've collected thus far,
>
> MissB
>

As of midnight GMT.

Asterisks indicate alignments that weren't there a week ago today (with a 1 00'
orb).




Jupiter



*Al Thalimain Primus (Iota Aquilae; aka Al Thalimain I)

NGC 6814 (Aquilae; galaxy with suspected black hole)

*Terebellum (Omega Sagittarii)

Little Gem Nebula (NGC 6818 Sagittarii)

*Barnard's Galaxy (NGC 6822 Sagittarii)

*KK Telescopii (cataclysmic variable aka nova)

*The Coathanger (Collinder 399 Vulpeculae; aka Brocchi's Cluster)




Saturn



*Lucida Antliae (Alpha Antliae; the brightest star in Antlia the Air Pump)

AM Canum Venaticorum (cataclysmic variable aka nova)

M-94 (Canum Venaticorum; galaxy with suspected black hole)

NGC 4395 (Canum Venaticorum; galaxy with suspected black hole)

Denebola (Beta Leonis)

UX Ursae Majoris (cataclysmic variable)




Uranus



Shih (Sigma Pegasi)

Fum al Samakah (Beta Piscium)




Neptune



LZ Aquarii (cataclysmic variable)

Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)

16 Cygni B (has planets)

Blinking Planetary (NGC 6826 Cygni)

Gruid (Beta Gruis)

VW Hydri (cataclysmic variable)

Polophylax (Zeta Tucanae; marks the obsolete constellation Polophylax, the Pole
Guard)

TY Vulpeculae (cataclysmic variable)




Pluto



Tao Shou (Theta Arae)

Ramo (95 Herculis; marks the obsolete constellation Ramo[(the Branch], aka
Cerberus, both represented as held in Hercules' left hand)

*Polarissima Australis (NGC 2573 Octantis; a galaxy closer to the south
celestial pole than Polaris Australis, hence the name)

Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)

Fellah (67 Ophiuchi)

*Poniatovii (70 Ophiuchi; marks the obsolete constellation Taurus Poniatovii
[Poniatowski's Bull])

Alnasl (Gamma Sagittarii)

Lagoon Nebula (M-8 Sagittarii)

Trifid Nebula (M-20 Sagittarii)

M-21 (Sagittarii; open cluster)

Spiculum (M-18/M-20/M-21 Sagittarii)

Red Spider Nebula (NGC 6537 Sagittarii)

DZ Serpentis (cataclysmic variable)




Eris



Termes Frederici (Psi Andromedae [marks the olive branch in the obsolete
constellation Frederici Honores [the Honors of Frederick])

FX Cephei

VV Cephei (cataclysmic variables)

Epsilon Reticuli (has planets)

Revati (Zeta Piscium)




Ceres



Zosma (Delta Leonis)

*Wolf 359 (CN Leonis;a nearby star that was the scene of a battle

Alsuhail (Lambda Velorum)




Pallas



*Tarandus (49 Cassiopeiae; marks the obsolete constellation Tarandus the
Reindeer)

*Kapteyn's Star (VZ Pictoris; discovered by Dutch astronomer Jacobus Kapteyn in
1897; nearby star, nearest halo star to the Sun, orbits the Galactic Center
backwards)

*Secunda Hyadum (Delta Tauri; member of the Hyades)

*Kleeia (Delta-3 Tauri; member of the Hyades)

*Ain (Epsilon Tauri)

*Phaesyla (Theta-2 Tauri; member of the Hyades)

*Polyxo (71 Tauri; member of the Hyades)

*T Tauri (variable star, prototype of the T Tauri class)

*Struve's Lost Nebula (NGC 1554 Tauri)

*Hind's Variable Nebula (NGC 1555 Tauri)



Juno



*Al Thalimain Secundus (Lambda Aquilae; aka Al Thalimain II)

*Phantom Streak (NGC 6741 Aquilae; nebula)

*Nova Hassel (V446 Herculis; discovered by hearing-impaired Norwegian astronomer
Olaf Hassel)

*Delta Pavonis (nearby sunlike star)

*Rukbat (Alpha Sagittarii)



Vesta



Mirach (Beta Andromedae)

Pearce's Star (AO Cassiopeiae)

Bubble Nebula (NGC 7635 Cassiopeiae)

BO Ceti (cataclysmic variable)

Alsafi (Sigma Draconis)

Alrisha (Alpha Piscium)

Markarian 1 (Piscium; galaxy with suspected black hole)




Chiron



Marakk (Zeta Capricorni)

Sualocin (Alpha Delphini)

Al Salib (Delta Delphini)

*Hinnulus (Epsilon Equulei)

Aldhanab (Gamma Gruis)

Ghost-Ring Nebula (IC 5148/5150 Gruis)

Tien Tsien (Iota Puppis)

EF Tucanae (cataclysmic variable)



North Node



Markarian 409 (Aquarii; a variable galaxy)

Tso Ke (Rho Aquilae)

Chi Cygni

HD 187123 (Cygni; has planets)

Foxhead Cluster (NGC 6819 Cygni)

Struve 2398 (Draconis; nearby star)

Foo Pih (Gamma Hydri)

Shay Fuh (Nu Hydri)

Epsilon Indi (well-known nearby star)

Lucida Tucanae (Alpha Tucanae)



South Node



OJ 287 (Cancri; BL Lacertae object)

Giansar (Lambda Draconis)

Mawtinah (Delta Hydrae)

Maculosa (38 Lyncis)

NGC 2778 (Lyncis; galaxy with suspected black hole)

Hadir (Sigma Puppis)

HS Puppis (cataclysmic variables)

NGC 3079 (Ursae Majoris; galaxy with suspected black hole)




More later.




Mark A. Holmes

Digital international Astrology Library

I dont know if any of you know about this resource thought I'd put it
up it is a compendium of astrology books that you can read on line, it
covers history, several original greek and latin texts, etc.
encyclopedias etc.

http://cura.free.fr/DIAL.html

have fun!

MissB