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Hello. My name is Bob Schultz, acta@.... I chair the We The People organization which sponsored the Citizens' Summit To End The Illegal Operations Of The IRS, which was held at the National Press Club last Saturday.
I am sending this message to you, and to hundreds of other interested Citizens, who have asked why C-SPAN didn't broadcast the Summit. I don't know why C-SPAN failed to broadcast the event. What I can tell you are the facts as I know them.
The following is a copy of an article I posted on our web site this evening. See www.givemeliberty.org. If you are interested in the issue of the constitutionality of the income and social taxes and legality of the operations of the IRS, and what you and we can do about it, you may want to visit our web site. We especially encourage you to read and sign the Remonstrance and to follow the developments relating to the April 13, 2000 event.
After you have read the piece that follows, and reviewed our web site, if you have any comments or questions, please do nothesitate to contact me.
Stay well and stay vigilant!
C-SPAN: WHAT HAPPENED?
We The People's July Symposium on the Legality Of The Income and Social Security Taxes, held at the National Press Club in Washingtion DC, was broadcast live on C-SPAN 2, and rebroadcast several times.
C-SPAN was contacted, thoroughly informed and enlisted to broadcast the Citizens' Summit To End The IllegalOperations Of the IRS, which was held on Saturday, November 13, 1999, but C-SPAN was a "no-show." It not only failed to broadcast the event live, as it did in July, but it also failed to tape the event for later broadcast.
What was the public's reaction to this? Beginning as early as Saturday, November 13th, and continuing through Monday, November 15, 1999, C-SPAN received a flood of e-mails, faxes, and phone calls from people all across the country, asking why the Citizens' Summit was not being broadcast, or had not been broadcast, by C-SPAN. On Monday, November 15, 1999, C-SPAN started to respond to the people's inquiries with a standard message which read: "C-SPAN never said that we would cover the event. Our editorial board did not even consider it because they had no information about it. Apparantly there is a misleading e-mail message making the rounds that claims we were scheduled to cover the event. I am sorry to inform you that this was never true, and that the IRS Symposium at the National Press Club will not air on C-SPAN or C-SPAN 2."
Upon learning of C-SPAN'S response, we immediately telephoned C-SPAN and spoke to "Marsha" and then "Justin," both from C-SPAN's "Viewer Services." We told them that they should not be telling people that C-SPAN had "no information" about the meeting, because it was not true, and people at C-SPAN knew that it was not true. We informed Marsha and Justin that we could easily show that C-SPAN'S assignment desk and, therefore, its editorial board knew about the meeting and its agenda well in advance of C-SPAN's daily afternoon editorialboard meeting on Friday, November 12, 1999, at which it decided which of the following day's events it would broadcast live, which it would tape for later broadcast and which it would not cover at all.
Marsha agreed to immediately stop giving out the inaccurate response and to direct all inquiries on the subject to our website and to our e-mail address.Under the facts and circumstances of the matter, we are as troubled over C-SPAN's behavior as are so many other people.Due to the widespread and intense interest in the issue, we offer here the facts as we know them.
First, C-SPAN's web site (www.c-span.org) encourages people to e-mail C-SPAN at events@... to suggest events those people would like C-SPAN to cover.
Note: For 6-8 weeks leading up to our July Symposium on the Legality of The Income and Social Security Taxes, and for 6-8 weeks leading up to the November 13th Citizens' Summit we received copies of e-mail messages people from towns across America had sent to C-SPAN requesting C-SPAN to cover the respective events.
Second. Because so many "off-hill" events take place in Washington DC everyday, C-SPAN does not decide which "off-hill" event it will cover until its daily, afternoon editorial board meeting the day before the event is scheduled to take place. With respect to each suggestion and request, C-SPAN decides to either cover the event live, tape it for later broadcast or not cover the event at all.C-SPAN has people who work at their "assignment desk," and gather the needed information about each event for presentation at the daily, afternoon editorial board meeting. Sponsors of events could submit the information about their event to C-SPAN long before the event is scheduled to take place. However, the assignment desk people usually do not focus on the information, and really don't require the information, until 2 or 3 days before the date of the event.
Note: Denise Douglas was the assignment desk person to whom we submitted the necessary information about the July Symposium (which C-SPAN broadcast live) and to whom we submitted the information about the November 13th Citizens' Summit (which, for some reason, C-SPAN did not cover).
Third. Early in September, 1999, we contacted C-SPAN's Viewer Services and spoke to a male representative. Without, yet identifying who was calling, we said that we would be scheduling an event in Washington DC during the week of November 8, 1999, the subject of the event was of nationwide interest, we were inclined to schedule the event for Saturday, November 13, 1999, to make it possible for more working people to attend the event, but that we did not want to foreclose on the possibility of C-SPAN coverage. In other words, we needed to know if C-SPAN avoided covering events on Saturdays. We told the person at Viewer Services that we were familiar with C-SPAN's policy and procedure regarding requests for coverage and that we knew no decision would be forthcoming until the day before the event, but we needed to know, in effect, if C-SPAN worked on Saturdays to broadcast events live or to tape events for later broadcast.
To our surprise and delight, the young man immediately asked, "Is this the We The People group?" We said, "Yes." He then offered that C-SPAN has had a huge response to the July Tax Symposium, and that they have not been able to keep their tape of that event on the shelf because so many people were calling to request a copy. He then said that C-SPAN often broadcasts live on Saturdays, and that it would make no difference to C-SPAN which day of the week we held the event during that week in November. We told him that in that case we would schedule the Summit meeting for Saturday November 13, 1999.
Fourth. The information that C-SPAN requests from the sponsor of each event that the sponsor wants covered by C-SPAN is as follows: name of the event; sponsoring organization; description of the event; participants (confirmed); start time; end time; and, contact person.
Note: On June 26, 1999, six days before the July 1-2, 1999, date of our Symposium on the Legality of the Income and Social Security Taxes, we faxed the required information to Denise Douglas. On November 4, 1999, nine days before the November 13th date of the Citizens' Summit To End the Illegal Operations Of The IRS, Robert Schulz, Chairman of the We The People Congress, personally hand delivered a letter to C-SPAN at its office at 400 No. Capitol Street, NW, to the attention of Denise Douglas. This letter contained the required information.
Fifth. C-SPAN also usually requests a press release or press advisory relating to the event.
Note: Prior to our July Symposium on the Legality of the Income and Social Security Taxes, we not only sent C-SPAN a press release, we used the services of U.S. Newswire to transmit our press release to what they refer to as the "Washington Circuit," which includes approximately 361 major media outlets with Washington DC bureaus (most of which have offices within the National Press Building), as well as the White House, all cabinet agencies, the U.S. House Information System and the U.S. Senate Computer System.
On Friday morning, November 12, 1999 we faxed our press release to C-SPAN's Brad McGuire (as directed by Denise Douglas' voice machine), and e-mailed a copy to U.S.Newswire. At 12:24 pm on Friday, November 12, 1999, U.S. Newswire wired our press release to the Washington Circuit. All afternoon on Friday November 12th we tried to reach either Denise Douglas or Brad McGuire. We were unsuccessful. They may have been attending the daily, afternoon editorial board meeting. We were only able to leave messages on their voice machines.
Sixth.During the afternoon on Friday, November 12, 1999, we called C-SPAN's scheduling hotline to see what C-SPAN and C-SPAN 2 had scheduled for Saturday, November 13th. The schedule for C-SPAN showed a live broadcast between 8 and 10 am (Washington Journal) and another live broadcast Saturday night. Nothing was scheduled on C-SPAN between 10 am and 4 pm -- the hours of the Summit meeting. C-SPAN 2's schedule for Saturday reflected C-SPAN's long-standing committment to book reviews. It was obvious that C-SPAN's schedule was open during the time of the We The People meeting.
Seventh. At about 1:00 pm on Friday, November 12, 1999, we received a telephone call from a Gary Gray who said he worked for the Department of Justice, located in the National Press Building, but that he was speaking personally. He said he knew that we were having a meeting the next day at the National Press Club. He said that he had gone to the National Press Club (located in the building) to inquire about the event and that he learned how many people we had guaranteed for breakfast and how many we had guaranteed for lunch. His first question was, "Is this going to be on C-SPAN?" We said we expected C-SPAN to broadcast the event, as they had our meeting in July, but we didn"t know for sure. We explained C-SPAN's policy of not deciding and disclosing such things until after their daily, afternoon editorial board meeting, and that we didn't expect to hear from C-SPAN until later that day, if at all. Mr. Gray then asked if it was true that a U.S. Senator attempted to bribe someone to have the meeting cancelled.
We answered, "No, but that at the Citizens' Summit meeting the next day, Bill Benson, one of the speakers would be disclosing the name of a U.S. Senator that attempted, in 1985, to pay to suppress Bill Benson's evidence of Philander Knox's fraudulent proclamation that the 16th Amendment had been properly and legally ratified by the States. We told Mr. Gray that during the July Symposium (aired live by C-SPAN) Bill Benson stopped short of naming the Senator and that Bill Benson was planning to name the Senator the next day during the Citizens' Summit. Mr. Gray then asked if the Senator was alive and in office. We said, "Yes." He then asked who the other speakers were. We told him that two former IRS agents would be speaking about their recent decisions to resign from the IRS because they could no longer enforce the Internal Revenue Code as if the taxes were compulsory, knowing as they did that the taxes are voluntary. We also identified as another speaker, David Bosset, the Florida employer who had recently convinced the IRS that filing and paying income and social security taxes was voluntary, not compulsory. Mr.Gray then asked, "What if Congress changed the law to make the tax compulsory?" We said, "Congress would still be faced with the problem of the unconstitutional 16th Amendment." We then asked Mr. Gray how he learned about the Summit. He hesitated, then said, "Someone sent me an e-mail." We asked if he was planning on attending the Summit. He said that he would try to get there. He offered that he was not calling in his official capacity, but as an interested citizen.
Eighth. C-SPAN has a T.V. camera hanging from the ceiling at the back of the Ballroom at the National Press Club, the room that the Citizens' Summit was being held in and the room where all major NPC events are held. C-SPAN is able to operate that camera remotely from its offices at 400 No. Capitol Street, N.W.. without having to tie up a full camera crew.
Ninth. C-SPAN did not contact us on Friday or Saturday. No one from C-SPAN showed up at the Citizens' Summit To End The Illegal Operations Of The IRS.
Tenth. The lobby of the National Press Building has approximately 10 T.V.'s built into one wall. They are operated by all the major broadcasters and appear to operate all day long. On Saturday afternoon, November 13,1999, we were told by one of the people attending the Summit that she observed that C-SPAN was broadcasting re-runs of speeches by Congressmen to an empty chamber of the House of Representatives. We have been told that C-SPAN 2 was broadcasting reruns of book reviews.
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IAHF LIST: Many of you live outside the USA and may wonder why I am sending
the forwarded news articles below. A lot of you who are Americans who got on
the IAHF list out of concern re health freedom issues may ALSO wonder why I
am sending this, so please allow me to explain:
I have been exposing a coverup of monumental proportions re the CODEX
vitamin issue, however CODEX is only one SMALL PART of a much LARGER
conspiracy to ENSLAVE US. Please read the forwarded information below about
what REALLY happened at WACO very carefully and let it sink in... a LOT is
on the line here... if you still need a clue as to what is REALLY going on,
after you read the article below, please go to the US Patent Office website
at http://164.195.100.11/netahtml/srchnum.htm A "query" box will appear.
Enter the number 5,878,155 into it, then click the "search" button.
That will bring you to a patent titled
"Method for verifying human identity during electronic sale transactions"
I am _NOT_ making this up, any more than either the Spotlight or the
Associated Press is "making up" the information below about what REALLY
happened at WACO...
I strongly recommend PRAYER. LOTS of PRAYER...
>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:06:30 +0000
>From: "NewsHawk® Inc." <newshawk1@...>
>Reply-To: newshawk1@...
>Organization: NewsHawk® Inc.
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
>X-Accept-Language: en
>Subject: Delta Force Murdered Branch Davidians/It's Official
>To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input)
>
>Subject:
>Delta Force Murdered Branch Davidians
>Frustrated Angry Clinton Said Ultimately Behind Move
>
>
>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:03:11 EDT
>
>Subject: Military Unit Responsible at Waco
>
>http://www.spotlight.org/New_Story/waco/waco.html
>http://www.spotlight.org/New_Story/waco/waco.html
>
>Military Unit Responsible at Waco
>
>An elite U.S. Army military unit was responsible for the massacre of 76
>Branch Davidians after a 51-day siege by federal officers of their compound
>at Waco, Tex., in 1993.
>
>EXCLUSIVE TO THE SPOTLIGHT
>
>By Mike Blair
>
>Orders were given to the top secret Combat Applications Group of Fort
>Bragg,
>N.C. (known as the Delta Force), by President William Jefferson Clinton
>because the seemingly endless stand-off between the FBI and members of the
>religious sect had become an embarrassment to his administration, according
>to a former Army Special Forces member.
>
>Also involved in the final days of decision-making that brought "closure"
>to the siege was first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, currently the U.S.
>media
>poster girl as a result of her venture into Senate politics in New York.
>
>Reports have been received by The SPOTLIGHT that Gene Cullen, a former CIA
>agent, has asked a Senate committee for "protection" in return for his
>testimony regarding Delta Force activity at Waco. Cullen is requesting
>"protection," according to reports, because he has been threatened with
>prosecution for violating national security if he talks.
>
>WHITE HOUSE BRIEFED
>
>The recent release of documents through the Freedom of Information Act
>(FOIA)
>reveals that Army officials, and in particular those from Delta Force, met
>with White House and Justice Department officials, including Attorney
>General
>Janet Re-no and her then second-in-command and former Hillary Clinton law
>partner, Webster Hubbell, to discuss a resolution to the Waco standoff.
>
>However, information obtained by The SPOTLIGHT reveals that Delta Force
>played far more than an advisory role in ending the siege. In fact Delta
>Force had a direct, operational role in the attack on the Branch Davidian
>compound that resulted in the holocaust that took the lives of 76 residents
>of the religious community, including dozens of women and children.
>
>Steve Barry, a retired long-time member of Army Special Forces and a top
>expert in the field of military special operations, said a team of about 10
>members of Delta Force was involved in the Waco massacre.
>
>Barry's military career included training with Delta Force.
>
>On April 19, according to Barry, "two bricks," or four-man teams, were
>involved in the actual attack.
>
>In recently released FBI infrared video tapes of the crucial minutes of the
>April 19 assault on the compound, fully-automatic gunfire is seen being
>directed into an area of the structure, which Branch Davidians were
>attempting to use to escape from flames, fanned by high winds, consuming
>the
>wooden buildings.
><snip>
>Barry told The SPOTLIGHT that there was a team of "as many as 10" Delta
>Force troopers assigned to Waco, including, as he describes them, "a
>commander,
>a sergeant major, two to three communications guys, two to three intel
>[intelligence] guys, a medic and two to three operations guys."
>
>He said assigned to them, supposedly in an advisory capacity, were
>members of the British SAS (Special Air Service), an elite British
>special operations
>force.
>
>The Delta Force, Barry explained, shared a Tactical Operations Center (TOC)
>at Waco with an FBI Hostage Rescue Team (HRT) force. Since the 1993
>tragedy,
>the American people have been led to believe that the HRT force alone
>conducted the assault on the compound.
>
>Barry said the Delta Force receives its orders from what is known as the
>National Command Authority, which then included Clinton, Secretary of State
>Warren Christopher, Secretary of Defense Les Aspin and Chairman of the
>Joint
>Chiefs of Staff, Army Gen. Colin Powell.
>
>The ultimate decision to send Delta Force into action rests with the
>president, Barry said. It can be no other way, he added.
>
>FAMILIAR FACE
>
>Adding to the controversy, it has been confirmed that Lon Horiuchi was in
>charge of a sniper post where Texas Rangers recovered spent .223 and .308
>shell casings.
>
>Horiuchi was the FBI sniper who fatally shot the wife of Randy Weaver,
>while
>wounding both Randy Weaver and Kevin Harris, during the federal standoff at
>Ruby Ridge in Idaho.
>
>The recovered shell casings would be consistent with government-issued
>sniper
>rifles. Horiuchi has denied that he or any members of his "team" fired
>any shots at Waco.
>
>The retired special operations expert said that during the siege at Waco,
>first lady Hillary Clinton operated a "crisis center" at the White House,
>put together on her own initiative. Serving with her was another former
>member ofher Little Rock law firm, White House Deputy Counsel Vincent M.
>Foster Jr.
>
>Foster was later found dead under mysterious circumstances in a Virginia
>park
>across the river from D.C.
>
>According to Barry, it was from this "crisis center" that word went out
>that there was "child abuse" by adult members of the sect, including leader
>David Koresh, at the Waco religious facility.
>
>This revelation about the part Foster played in the Waco tragedy has been
>confirmed by Mike McNulty, a producer of a documentary film on the siege.
>McNulty said he was told by Foster's widow, Lisa, that the White House
>attorney's depression at the time of his death "was fueled by horror at the
>carnage at Waco for which the White House had given the ultimate green
>light."
>
>McNulty also said that Foster was preparing a Waco report when he died.
>This
>has been confirmed by veteran British journalist, Ambrose
>Evans-Pritchard, in his book, The Secret Life of Bill Clinton.
>
>Pritchard wrote:
>
>The Branch Davidian siege was clearly on Foster's mind. He was "drafting
>a letter involving Waco" on the day of his death, surely a point of some
>significance. He kept a Waco file in the locked cabinet that was off limits
>to everybody, including his secretary. His widow mentions Waco twice in her
>statement to the FBI. Toward the end of his life, Foster had no sense of
>joy
>or elation at work. The Branch Davidian incident near Waco, Tex., was also
>causing him a great deal of stress. Lisa Foster believes that he was
>horrified when the Branch Davidian complex burned. Foster believed that
>everything was his fault.*
>
>BREAKING THE LAW
>
>When asked about how the Delta Force action jibes with the Posse Comitatus
>Act, which outlaws the use of Army forces to enforce civilian law, Barry
>said: "That's just it. It doesn't jibe with Posse Comitatus."
>
>A violation of Posse Comitatus is indeed "a high crime or misdemea-nor,"
>which would be an impeachable felony offense.
>
>And if Clinton's reasons for ordering the Delta Force attack at Waco are
>murky, the reasons for directing a cover-up are obviously not.
>
>Posse Comitatus clearly states that "Whoever . . . willfully uses any
>part of the Army or the Air Force as a Posse Comitatus or otherwise to
>execute the
>laws shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than two
>years." (18 U.S. Code, Section 1385)
>
>*The Secret Life of Bill Clinton is available from Liberty Library for $27
>(Hardback, 416 pages). Send payment to Liberty Library, 300 Independence
>Avenue SE, Washington, D.C.
>
>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>Military reluctant in Davidian siege
>
>http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap19991030_887.html
>
>
>WIRE:10/30/1999 16:53:00 ET
>Report: Military reluctant in Davidian siege
>
>
>WACO, Texas (AP) _ U.S. military leaders were reluctant to assist in the
>1993 siege of the Branch Davidian headquarters near Waco and questioned
>the legality of their role, the Waco Tribune-Herald reported Saturday.
>
>Federal law prohibits the military from becoming actively involved in
>domestic law enforcement matters unless directed to do so by the president.
>
>Citing federal documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act,
>the newspaper reported that at one point, a top Army officer questioned
>the legality of military support for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms.
>
>The military previously has acknowledged that it provided assistance to
>federal law officers. In August, the General Accounting Office, an
>investigatory arm of Congress, reported that military personnel were
>called to the scene after the ATF "cited possible drug-related activity"
>at the Davidian compound.
>
>A senior Pentagon official then said no consideration was given to
>requesting a presidential waiver of the law that prohibits military
>involvement in domestic law enforcement because it wasn't deemed
>necessary or applicable.
>
>According to the Tribune-Herald, the military role began before Feb. 28,
>1993, the day ATF agents tried to serve members of the Davidians with
>search and arrest warrants. A gunfight ensued; four agents and six
>Davidians died.
>
>The ATF had contacted Operation Alliance, an agency that coordinates
>law-enforcement requests for military help in fighting drugs, the
>newspaper said.
>
>In a Jan. 22, 1993 letter to Operation Alliance, ATF officials requested
>training by special-forces troops, instruction in driving Bradley
>Fighting Vehicles and the loan of seven Bradleys.
>
>Operation Alliance forwarded ATF's request to Fort Bliss and Joint Task
>Force-6, the military's headquarters for domestic anti-drug efforts.
>Officials there were told that assistance was "in direct support of
>interdiction activities along the Southwest border," the newspaper said.
>
>But Maj. Mark Petree, commander of the Army's special forces, questioned
>the legality of the request. Maj. Phillip Lindley, his legal adviser,
>wrote in a Feb. 3, 1993 memo that the ATF request would make the
>military an active, illegal partner in a domestic police action.
>
>After Joint Task Force-6 accused Lindley of trying to undermine the
>mission, he consulted his boss, Lt. Col. Douglas Andrews, the deputy
>staff judge advocate, the newspaper reported.
>
>Andrews told Lindley that the military could probably evaluate the ATF
>plan, but could not intervene to cancel it or revise it for the agency,
>the paper reported.
>
>There have been allegations that members of the Army's Delta Force squad
>engaged in a shootout with the Davidians on the day of the April 19,
>1993 fire in which sect leader David Koresh and about 80 followers died.
>
>However, military officials insist three Delta Force members were
>present that day as observers only.
>
>Delta Force officers did meet with Attorney General Janet Reno to
>discuss proposals to flush the Davidians from the compound.
>
>The newspaper cites a document in which an unidentified Delta Force
>officer reported that Reno was only offered limited advice _ including
>the military's belief that inserting tear gas into the residence might
>cause mothers to panic and "run off and leave infants."
><snip>
>No Army official familiar with the situation was available for comment
>Saturday, said Gerry Gilmore, a Pentagon Army spokesman.
>
>
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Subj: More on IRS/C-Span Date: 11/14/99 10:14:23 PM Eastern Standard Time From: becraft@... (Larry Becraft)
To whom it may concern,
This last week, the Net was buzzing with information about Bob Schulz's
"IRS Showdown II" scheduled for the National Press Club in DC on November 13, 1999. Lots of people expected C-Span to cover this meeting like it did the previous one, but that did not happen. You have inquired
regarding the lack of coverage by C-Span and I offer the following. Because so many others have also inquired, please excuse this "form" response which I am sending to everyone.
On July 1and 2, 1999, Bob Schulz from New York sponsored his first "IRS Showdown" in DC. Speakers at this first meeting were Bill Benson (author of "The Law That Never Was" which addresses the question of the non-ratification of the 16th Amendment), Bill Conklin, Joe Bannister (former IRS Special Agent), Devvy Kidd and myself.
Fortunately on July 2, 1999, C-Span broadcast the second day of that meeting
nationwide and untold numbers of Americans caught it. Lots of interest in that
first Showdown was generated as a consequence. Many contacted C-Span
and ordered video tapes of the seminar and C-Span has informed Bob Schulz
that it sold more videos of that meeting than any other program it has ever broadcast.
Bob planned his second Showdown for the weekend of November 13, because of the apparent success of the first. Of the two meeting rooms on the 13th floor of the Press Club Building in DC, Bob rented the bigger "special events" meeting room; the Press Club has a built-in broadcast studio above this particular meeting room, thus making coverage of a meeting there extremely easy. Thereafter, Bob contacted C-Span inquiring whether it would cover this second meeting like it did the first, and was informed that there was a great likelihood that it would, reserving the possibility of cancellation in the event of some other "more interesting meetings or events." Of course, C-Span does not let those conducting events know about whether it will broadcast a meeting until 24 hours before.
When Bob made the arrangements for this second meeting, he was also lining up the speakers. He asked Bill Benson to again attend as well as former IRS Special Agent Joe Banister. Joe anticipated that he could get another retired IRS revenue agent to also attend and this other agent has views similar to those of Joe. Bob contacted Dave Bosset, an accountant and employer from Florida who recently received a "refund" check from the IRS repaying taxes withheld from his employees, and invited him to attend. As for me, I told Bob that whether I could attend depended upon a lack of other obligations for that weekend.
Last Thursday, I called Bob and informed him that I could attend the second Showdown. At that time, Bob told me that he expected C-Span to provide TV coverage of the event and he wanted us to spread the word. I did, and you read one of the announcements distributed by me or some other of the interested parties. Bill Benson contacted many with the same message and everyone anticipated that C-Span would televise that meeting on Saturday, Nov. 13.
On Friday, Nov. 12, most of the speakers arrived at the hotel at which we were staying early; I did not get there until mid-night. Nobody had seen Bob Schulz before we went to bed because he was driving down from New York. The next morning, we all went to the Press Club in DC, and upon seeing Bob, he informed us of his expectation of televised coverage by C-Span. However, he did mention that he provided a notice of the meeting to all of the other press agencies located in the Press Club Building on Friday, Nov. 12 and invited their attendance.
Just before he left New York on Friday, he received a call from a man
named Joel Gray, who claimed to be some type of federal government
employee; Gray asked lots of questions about the meeting and stated
that he had an office in the Press Club building and had received Bob's notice.
About 30 minutes before the meeting was to start, everyone was anticipating the arrival of the C-Span crew. But when showtime arrived and C-Span failed to appear, we had to start the meeting anyway. It was a good, well attended meeting and video tapes will be made available from several sources, one of whom will be Devvy Kidd whose webpage is at: http://www.devvy.com/index.html
A particular highlight of this meeting was the speech given by Dave Bosset. Dave is an accountant by profession as well as a computer program writer. He is a businessman from Florida and recently (this last June) applied for a refund from the IRS regarding withholding taxes that his company had paid on behalf of its employees. Dave received that refund. He told those attending this meeting about what he did and the legal basis for his refund claim. This is a "first" and lots of people are interested in this issue. I hope that Dave soon sets up his own webpage.
We were very disappointed that C-Span failed to broadcast the second meeting of IRS Showdown. Presently, this is what we know regarding the failure of C-Span to attend and broadcast Showdown II:
1. Bob Schulz believes that the government employee, Joel Gray, was instrumental in convincing C-Span to not attend;
2. When the IRS Showdown was over, we went back to the hotel. Bill Benson received an important message to call his wife, and that lead to certain very intriguing information. Bill had informed lots of people that at Showdown II, he would identify Senator Orin Hatch as a party who attempted to buy all of Bill's work and books regarding the non-ratification of the 16th Amendment so that this information would not "get into the hands of the kooks out there" across America. Bill did tell everyone at Showdown II what Sen. Hatch's "henchmen" tried to do. But Bill received after the meeting a very important message from a good and reliable friend: C-Span did not attend and broadcast this meeting because it was paid "big bucks" not to.
As more information is learned regarding this C-Span matter, I expect Bob Schulz to post that information to his webpage. Why don't you periodically check there to receive information about any late breaking developments.
By Geoff Metcalf, a talk-show host for KSFO in San Francisco. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday November 13,1999, a whole bunch of people were anxiously awaiting
C-Span to broadcast the "Citizens Summit to End the Illegal Operations of the IRS." Hard to fit on a business card, but although you did not see it as promised, it DID take place at the National Press Club in Washington D.C.
Why was it dropped? A lot of people would like to know. Some are claiming C-Span was paid NOT to air the controversial anti-tax summit.
Conventional wisdom from the establishment has been to undermine the credibility of tax protesters. Call them names, guffaw at their claims, and relegate them to the radical right-wing wacko fringe. However, this group of experts has routinely and consistently proven their allegedly outlandish claims, and mainstream tactics have been failing to quiet the roar.
I know several of the participants and have interviewed most of them on my radio talk show. Bill Benson, author of "The Law that Never Was" not only has documented the illegal implementation of the income tax, but he has also been offered money to turn over his documents and be quiet. Joe Bannister, is a former IRS special agent ("badge carrying, gun carrying agent") tells how he personally had asked the IRS (for whom he worked) to show him the statutes which make an American liable for the income tax. Since it was his job to enforce the law, he kinda wanted to see it. He never got a response. He was subsequently let go from the agency. I have always felt tangentially responsible since he had his own personal epiphany after researching material he had heard discussed on my program. (WorldNetDaily has written about his story.)
Constitutional lawyer Larry Becraft has a wealth of documentation supporting the group's claims, which the mainstream has assiduously avoided. The C-Span scheduling change has prompted considerable confusion, disappointment, and anger -- specifically because C-Span management had already established not only the precedent of airing seminars from the organizing group (We the People) which had put on a similar tax summit previously this year, also at the National Press Club. The first summit was covered from introduction to the end by C-Span. Additionally, it was shown several times. First it was aired live, and then it was re-run several times after that the subsequent week. This summit is larger and better organized. C-Span normally covers events of national interest held at the National Press Club headquarters.
Why would C-Span, in the wake of cultivating a reputation for non-partisan candor fold on this one? It certainly wasn't any programming imperative. Instead of the promised tax protester live speeches, C-Span ran a re-run of a Books Notes show. When they ran the first event it proved to be a huge success. Reportedly, it had been the most often requested tape ordered from C-Span. It was apparently both an audience success AND a financial success in that it generated considerable tape sales. So why would they cancel the sequel with the original cast?
At the first summit (the one C-Span DID air), Bill Benson, discussed his book "The Law That Never Was," in which he proves beyond a shadow of doubt that the 16th Amendment was never properly ratified by the states. That really wasn't too earthshaking since Benson has been sharing his work for years. I first interviewed him on the air with his documentation in 1992. However, during his presentation, Benson noted that several years ago, shortly after he completed his research into the non-ratification of the 16th Amendment, he was offered a very large sum of money by a presidential candidate to not make the information public for fear it would destroy the entire tax system.
Bill did not, however (during the first broadcast summit), name the former presidential candidate. It was expected that Saturday the name would be released ... and it was. According to Benson, Orrin Hatch had offered him a large sum of money for all the original documentation of his work proving the 16th Amendment had never been ratified by the states.
Since Bill Benson has proven himself to be too principled to be bought off to suppress information the establishment claims is specious, maybe the would-be controllers could have better luck with the event promoter. Allegedly, the We the People promoter, Bob Scultz was offered a five-figure bribe by a "leading presidential candidate" to NOT hold the event or get it on C-Span. Scultz said "An official attempt by a leading, currently-sitting U.S. Senator to pay to have the evidence suppressed, to avoid publication and to maintain secrecy has been exposed at this meeting this day."
Excuse me? Why pussy-foot around Bob? Why not just come out and say who the "currently-sitting U.S. Senator" is? Come on pal, is it or isn't it John McCain? You did say "currently sitting U.S. Senator," AND one that is a "leading presidential candidate." Is there another one other than McCain I missed?
This is outrageous! The emperor has no clothes! It is long beyond time to resolve this controversy. I've told Benson, Bannister, Becraft and others that, notwithstanding the academic argument (which, by the way, they win). Congress could and arguably should or shouldn't admit what Benson has proven, and (like when the ground ball rolled under Mrs. Leonardo's front porch) have a "do-over."
"Mr. Speaker, in the wake of congressional analysis of the scholarly work of Mr. Benson, it has been determined that the 16th Amendment was not properly ratified. In order to correct this procedural oversight, we recommend the states re-ratify the amendment in order to ensure the expeditious maintenance of federal revenues ... yada, yada, yada."
But THAT speech will never happen. For two reasons: 1) government appears incapable of admitting error (Tuskeegee, Agent Orange, Gulf War Syndrome, Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma City, TWA 800 et al.); and 2) the inimitable fear that, if presented to the states, the states might not ratify the unholy tax. Remember, when first proposed the income tax was a "mere" 1 percent. Hell, even the most radical tax protester could probably be bought off with a "mere" 1 percent.
However, as with ANY form of control: gun control, tax control, anti-trust control, union control, birth control, or information control, the qualifier is insignificant. It is, and always has been about CONTROL.
The framers established the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to control government. Sadly, we have permitted those who should and could be controlled to turn the tables and reverse roles. We need to fix that. And C-Span needs to either admit they have allowed themselves to become a tool of the government information cabal which allows them to maintain their fiction of non-partisan objectivity, or they need to provide their audience with what is wanted and needed, and not what is permitted or allowed.
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Tom...
You wrote...
"PS: One final note about myself and Revenue Canada
Taxation. I stopped the "voluntary" filing of my
annual income tax forms in 1991. Since that time I
have made numerous request to have my employer stop
withholding income tax from my monthly paycheque - to
no avail."
What you need to do, is to fill out the TD-1 form and
submit it to your employer or whoever it is that signs
your paycheques. When I filed mu constructive notice
with RC that is what I did. Basically you need to
fill in the info at the top. Put in your SIN and mark
"restricted" beneath it, then fill in all the blanks
with "not Applicable" and claim "E" or exempt status.
Your employer has no choice but to abide by this
document. My employer has not taken taxes off my
cheque since Feb. of this year.
That will just let you keep your money though. You
will still be paying EI and CPP so by default, you
still are a "taxpayer"
I have learned just recently, that if you are
contributing to the "Corporation of the Federal
Government of Canada" then you are still one of thier
serfs.
the Best thing you can do is to make an arrangement
with your employer to be on contract for your services
and not in an employment situation. This contract
must be clear and concise leaving nothing unturneed.
The "lew" (or at least the ones a "taxpayer" has to
follow is (i'm paraphrasing) if you are accepting a
benefit from the system, then you are still part of
that system. By paying the CPP and EI you are
expecting to benefit from the system, therefore you
are still part of it.
This is explained very well at
http://www.worldcommunityedu.org
Go there and listen to everything they have. Then if
you can start getting in on the classes and take the
truth 101 and 102. If you need the pin numbers to get
in, I can get them to you.
e-gold - have you heard of it? Probably. What about
American Liberty Currency?
http://www.e-gold.comhttp://www.norfed.org
I am a new redemtion center in BC for this 100% backed
by silver currency, so they probably don't have me on
thier site yet.
Where in Canada are you, Tom?
There are redemption centers in Southern (Toronto &
Hamilton) Ontario and more coming. I am hoping to
build a strong BC base of them as well. Then we can
be truly Soveriegn. With the use of e-gold and ALC,
and some cxreativity, we can get back to the way
Canada could be! We've got to do it together.
Love the newsletter -
Thanks
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Many readers of the TCN (The Cyberclass Network) emailings have inquired about the "Citizens Summit to End the Illegal Operations of the IRS" which, it was reported, was scheduled to air on CSPAN-2 on Saturday, November 13th, 1999. The event was held at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. , Saturday, November 13. http://npc.press.org/npcevents.cgi This event was sponsored by We The People Congress, Inc.2458 Ridge Road, Queensbury, NY 12804 (518) 656-3578
A Remonstrance was signed at the Citizen's Summit to end the illegal operation of the IRS. This Remonstrance was publicly read and then signed by scores of individuals from dozens of states, who attended the "Citizens' Summit to End the Illegal Operation of the IRS," at a meeting assembled in Washington DC at the National Press Club on November 13, 1999. The Remonstrance will be delivered to the leaders of each branch of the federal government, early in the year 2000, after other citizens have had an opportunity to electronically sign it. To read the Remonstrance and add your voice to this effort in support of the Constitution and the Rule of Law click here.
******************************************* Scott MacDonald writes:
Update on NPC Conference on Taxes
Larry Becraft who was a speaker at the "Citizens Summit to End the Illegal Operations of the IRS" held at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. on Saturday, November 13th offers this update.
He said they were as surprised and disappointed as everyone that CSPAN did not cover the event. He explained that on Friday, November 12th, the day before the summit, Bob Schultz, President of "We The People," and promoter of the event received a phone call from a Department of Justice representative, Mr. Joel Gray, inquiring about the nature of the summit and the material to be covered. Although Mr. Schulz thought the call unusual, he placed no additional importance on it at the time.
IRS representatives and other government officials were formally invited to attend. None did. Larry said that as expected Bill Benson revealed the name of the person who approached him about not making public his material on the non-ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment, and that the person was Orin Hatch.
Larry said that C-SPAN told the summit promoter the tax summit held back in July, which they did cover, was THEIR MOST POPULAR PRODUCTION in terms of requests for taped copies of the program.
According to Larry, the C-SPAN schedule was open for this date, Saturday, November 13th between the hours of 8:00am and 6:00pm when this event was scheduled. Instead of covering this live event -- which was to be an improvement over the prior one, -- C-SPAN made a decision to run a previously taped "canned" program.
No official response has been received from C-SPAN as to why this event was not covered in light of the exceptional reception the first one received.
The information below is summarized from varoius incoming emails on Saturady, November 13th,1999.
The same organization which is putting on the summit today, We The People, also put on a similar tax summit in early July of 1999 at the same Washington location. The first summit was covered from beginning to end by C-SPAN-2. In fact, it was aired live and it also aired at least 4 or 5 additional times during the following week. The summit on Saturday, 13th, 1999 was larger and better organized. C-SPAN normally covers events of national interest held at the National Press Club headquarters.
At the first summit, in July 1999, former IRS special agent Joseph Banister announced that he personally had asked his (at-the-time) employer (the IRS) to show him the statutes which make an American liable for the income tax. He never got a response. He was subsequently let go from the agency.
Also at the first summit, Mr. Bill Benson, discussed his book "The Law That Never Was," in which he proves beyond a shadow of doubt that the 16th Amendment was never properly ratified by the states. During his presentation, Mr. Benson commented that several years ago, shortly after he completed his research into the non-ratification of the 16th Amendment, he was offered a very large sum of money by a then presidential candidate to not make the information public for fear it would destroy the entire tax system.
Mr. Benson did not, however, name the former presidential candidate. It was expected that today the name would be released. This may or may not have anything at all to do with the program not airing, or not being covered if it is not. This is what is referenced in the message sent out previously about the Citizen's Summit scheduled for Saturday, November 13th, 1999.
The following information is included only because so many people have been inquiring about "untaxing" and "detaxing" as it relates to the Citizen's Summit or otherwise. These URL's will offer some good background information.
A list of the constitutional defects in the non-ratification of the 16th Amendment are outlined at this URL: http://www.constitution.org/ica_ltnw.txt Not shown are the details of each states respective defect, which is extensively detailed in Mr. Benson's book.
The group that hosted the meeting in Washington, D.C. on Saturday, November 13th was "We The People" Visit their website at this URL: http://www.givemeliberty.org/index.html
Readers are encouraged to send an email to Jonathan Chevreau at : jchevreau@... to let him that that you support his brave attempt at honest journalism.
This URL was received by me from a "cyberspace" friend in Australia. http://www.reclaimaustralia.net It seems that this mission of spreading "truth" is global - and we can all learn from each other - thanks to the internet. (Note: The internet was created by the military and the "financial elite" to further their goals to usher in the New World Order. Now it is serving us well in the networking of information to thwart them in their goal)
Visit Keith Medcalf's website for many details: http://www.dessus.com Click on the blue lines on the fron page and there is much relevant information to read. You will find 1. Notice of application 2 Affidavit of Keith Medcalf 3. Affidavit of Robert.A .Marquis,C.A. 4. Applicants Factum If you do not read anything else read Keith's affidavit where he lists the many ways Revenue Canada Taxation in collusion with the Government of Canada uses criminal activity as described in the Criminal Code to force compliance to their unlawfull intrusion into our lives and livelihoods.
In summary the summit was not aired by C-Span on Saturday, November 13th. *If* it turns out that C-Span decides to air as a "canned" program at a later date, TCN will announce that date at that time.
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PS: One final note about myself and Revenue Canada Taxation. I stopped the "voluntary" filing of my annual income tax forms in 1991. Since that time I have made numerous request to have my employer stop withholding income tax from my monthly paycheque - to no avail. So, even though I have not filed an income tax form since 1991 Revenue Canada Taxation in cahoots with my employer is still stealing what rightfully belongs to me. I also filed the Constructive Notice and the Taxpayer's Declaration of Rights (These forms I found at Eldon Warman's website) to declare myself a non taxpayer. When Revenue Canada Taxation sent me any mail I simply refused to accept it and returned it. On Wednesday, November 10th, 1999 I received in the mail "Notice of Assessment" for the years 1994, 1995 and 1996. This simply means that Revenue Canada Taxation Officials completed income tax forms on my behalf using information from my employer. I was unaware that Revenue Canada Taxation would do this work for a taxpayer free of charge. (LOL) Why do taxpayers pay accountants when Revenue Canada taxation will do it for you????
In any case, I do not know why they decided to select the years 1994, 1995 and 1996 BUT here what they have come up with. By their "unlawful" calculation I owed Tax of $86.28 in 1994 with additional penalties of $14.67 and arrears interest of $52.16 for a total of $153.11. This was carried over to 1995 wherein I owed $92.22 with additional penalties of $46.11 and arrears interest of $49.10 for a total of $187.43 BUT the 1994 previous account balance is added for a new total of $340.54. This was carried over to 1996 wherein I owed $532.03 with additional penalties of $266.02 and arrears interest of $192.87 for a total of $990.92 BUT with the two prevous account balances carried over Revenue Canada Taxation fraudulently claims that I owe them $1331.46.
I am not the least bit stressed about this fraudulent "Notice of Assessment". BUT I am surprised that they can just go ahead and assess a citizen who has filed the "Constructive Notice and the Taxpayer's Declaration of Rights." I am accepting any advice on what I can do now to resist and how I should take action. Readers please advise.....
You are invited to witness history by tuning into C-Span-2 on
Saturday Nov. 13th at 10am EST.
There will be a live broadcast from the National Press Conference
Club in Washinton, DC. The information released will absolutely drop your jaw!
There will be lawyers, judges, former criminal investigators from the IRS, former Internal Revenue officers, educators, professors etc. They will be unveiling absolute conclusive PROOF that there is no law requiring ANY American to file a 1040 federal income tax statement! It is handled from a position of extensive research and certified government documents to back all claims made.
A current Presidential candidate has offered a 7-figure bribe to stop this info from reaching your ears! This program will be electric and will definitely be one for the family collection. Tune in and then make up your own minds. Pass this on to all you know.
Note: If you can't get CSPAN on your TV, you can watch the program on your computer at the following link.
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein
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Subject: Vote "no" on Internet Taxes BILL 602P
CNN has reported that within the next two weeks Congress is going to vote on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL FEE for Internet access.Translation: Every time we send a long distance e-mail we will receive a long distance charge. This will get costly Please visit the following web site and file a complaint. Complain to your Congressperson. We can't allow this to pass! The following address will allow you to send an e-mail on this subject DIRECTLY to your Congressperson. http://www.house.gov/writerep Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent! I hope all of you will pass this on to all your friends ands and family We should ALL have an interest in this one.
WAIT, THERE'S MORE. IN ADDITION, The last few months have revealed an alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the Internet. Under proposed legislation the US Postal Service will be attempting to bill email users out of "alternate postage fees." Bill 602P will permit the Federal govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from becoming law.
The US Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due to the proliferation of email is costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per year. You may have noticed their recent ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter." Since the average citizen received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S.Postal Service for a service they do not even provide. The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If the federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by adding a surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. You are already paying an exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York to Buffalo. If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker with email, it will mark the end the "free" Internet in the United States. One congressman, Tony Schnell (R) has even suggested a "twenty to forty dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the government's roposed email charges. Note that most of the major newspapers have ignored the story,the only exception being the washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful concept who's time has come" (March 6th, 1999) Editorial.
Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away!
Send this e-mail to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write to their congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few moments of your time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a bill we don't want.
PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT ALL OF US ONLINE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER
This was sent to me by a "cyberspace" friend of mine. You are invited to read it and take appropriate actions or delete it and dismiss it as "not newsworthy."
"Women who use pads, but especially women who use tampons are invited to read this and pass on to your friends. (For the men receiving this email, please forward it to your friends, significant others, sisters, mothers, daughters, etc.) Thanks!
Have you heard that tampon makers include asbestos in tampons? Why would they do this? Because asbestos makes you bleed more . . . if you bleed more, you're going to need to use more.
Why isn't this against the law since asbestos is so dangerous? Because the powers that be, in all their wisdom(not), did not consider tampons as being ingested, and therefore wasn't illegal or considered dangerous.
This month's Essence magazine has a small article about this and they mention two manufacturers of a cotton tampon alternative. The companies are Organic Essentials @ (800) 765-6491 and Terra Femme @ (800)755-0212.
A woman getting her Ph.D. at University of Colorado, Boulder, CO sent the following:
"I am writing this because women are not being informed about the dangers of something most of us use - tampons. I am taking a class this month and I have been learning a lot about biology and woman, including much about feminine hygiene. Recently we have learned that tampons are actually dangerous (for Other reasons than TSS).
I'll tell you this, after learning about this in Our class, most of the females wound up feeling angry and upset with The tampon industry, and I for one, am going to do something about it. To start, I want to inform everyone I can, and email is the fastest way that I know how.
Here is the scoop:
Tampons contain two things that are potentially harmful: Rayon (for absorbency), and dioxin (a chemical used in bleaching the products). The tampon industry is convinced that we, as women, need bleached white products in order to view the products pure and clean. The problem here is that the dioxin produced in this bleaching process can lead to very harmful problems for a woman.
Dioxin is potentially carcinogenic (cancer-associated) and is toxic to the immune and reproductive systems. It has also been linked to endometriosis and lower sperm counts for men - for both, it breaks down the immune system. Last September the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) reported that there really is no set "acceptable" level of exposure to dioxin given that it is cumulative and slow to disintegrate. The real danger comes from repeated contact (Karen Houppert "Pulling the Plug on the Tampon Industry").
I'd say using about 4-5 tampons a day, five days a month, for 38 menstruating years is "repeated contact", Wouldn't' you? Rayon contributes to the danger of tampons and dioxin because it is a highly absorbent substance. Therefore, when fibers from the tampons are left behind in the vagina (as it usually occurs), it creates a breeding ground for the dioxin. It also stays in a lot longer than it would with just cotton tampons.
This is also the reason why TSS (toxic shock syndrome) occurs. WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? Using feminine hygiene products that aren't bleached and that are all cotton. Other feminine hygiene products pads/napkins contain dioxin as well, but they are not nearly as dangerous since they are not in direct contact with the vagina. The pads/napkins need to stop being bleached, but obviously tampons are the Most dangerous. So, what can you do if you can't give up using tampons? Use tampons, that are made from 100% cotton, and that are UNBLEACHED. Unfortunately, there are very, very few companies that make these Safe tampons.
They are usually only found in health food stores. Countries all over the world (Sweden, German, British Columbia, etc.) have Demanded a switch to this safer tampon, while the U.S. has decided to keep us in the dark about it. In 1989, activists in England mounted a campaign against chlorine bleaching. Six weeks and 50,000 letters later, the makers of sanitary products switched to oxygen bleaching (one of the green methods available). (MS magazine, May/June 1995).
WHAT TO DO NOW:
Tell people. Everyone. Inform them. We are being manipulated by this industry and the government, let's do something about it! Please write to the companies:
Tampax (Tambrands), Playtex, O.B., Kotex. Call the 800 numbers listed on the boxes. Let them know that we demand a safe product -ALL COTTON UNBLEACHED TAMPONS. Thank you. Donna C. Boisseau & Stephanie C. Baker; Assistants to Dr. B.S. Katzenellenbogen, Professor University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign; Department of Molecular and Integrative Physiology; (217) 333-9769
The following information was posted at Richard Hoagland’s website at this URL early in the morning of November 7th. <www.enterprisemission.com/egyptair.htm>
Readers are invited to browse the information as copied here and then urged to visit the URL to view the graphics and follow the links to related information. There is much more to come.
The crash of Egypt Air flight 990 out of New York in the early morning hours of October 31st,
1999 has sparked a huge amount of interest and speculation in both the general media and in relation to our "November 7th" scenario. While the early trend of the news is to point at the thrust reversers as the most likely culprit, we have uncovered a wealth of information that has led us to conclude that not only is the situation more complex than the media is willing to acknowledge, it is also far more ominous for our own circumstantial case vis-à-vis the 7th. In fact, the story is so flush with symbolic linkages and data anomalies that it may never be satisfactorily explained. Much like the case of TWA 800, Egypt Air 990 appears destined never to rest fully in peace. Like that storied ghost ship out of New York from three summers ago, there are just too many conflicts between what is the clear direction of the "official" investigation and the facts.
Let one of us [Mike Bara] start by relating my own expertise in this field, such as it is. I was employed by Boeing as a structural designer for more than 14 years, and worked on every major commercial (and some military) vehicle that the company produced, including the 767. I also spent some time on the 767 engine program in the Power Plant and Strut group. In addition, my father worked at Boeing for more than 43 years, much of it spent in crash investigation and more than 20 years in material fire safety. On many occasions, he shared with me the results of these crash investigations and we had many discussions over the years on the causes of air fatalities and their possible prevention. He testified before congress on the subject and essentially wrote most of the FAA regulations on fire and materials safety. He spent the better part of his adult life trying to make air travel safer and crash situations survivable, so I have to admit that my blood boils when I see airplanes that have clearly been shot out of the sky by a missile blamed on "design flaws" by the company he and I once worked for.
At first glance, the in-flight deployment of one or both of the engine thrust reversers seemed a plausible explanation for the data that has been released regarding this crash. However, new radar data released by the NTSB has shown that the plane descended all the way from 33,000 feet to 17,000 feet, then climbed back up to 24,000 feet before apparently breaking apart (due to stresses, it was nearly supersonic at one point) as it attempted to turn for New York. At that point, the plane suddenly pointed straight down again and plunged into the ocean. It was almost as if the hand of God had reached out and slapped the plane down, then when it didn't "die" slapped it down again to finish the job. Almost immediately, government officials tried to impugn the data, despite the fact that it had come from the same Air Force team that had investigated TWA-800 and the JFK Jr. crashes.
What is less clear is just what may have caused this. Thrust reverser deployment would not have accounted for this sort of behavior, and in any event the thrust reverser problems alluded to in the news reports were "fail-safed" (made at least double redundant) years ago. We have suspicions as to what may have happened but for the moment what is more important to us is not so much what caused this crash (see below), but just how it happened to occur at the exact date, time and place that it did. That, as we stated above, becomes more complex when you examine all the data on the table ...
As many of you are well aware, we have been somewhat hair triggered lately to be on the lookout for any news items relating to "Egypt" -- and especially any sort of Egyptian connection to New York City. Besides the vagaries of "West Nile Virus" and the "Black Madonna" controversy that we reported on in "Will 'X' Mark the Date?," there have been some other curiosities in the news lately
There was an additional Egyptian connection to New York City that we did not allude to in that article due to time constraints. Currently, at the famed New York Metropolitan Museum of Art ("The Met") there is a rare exhibit of Egyptian "Old Kingdom" artifacts on display outside of Egypt. Combined with all the other "Egyptian' motif" coming out of New York lately, this only added to our suspicions when we heard that an Egyptian airliner -- out of New York, no less! -- was suddenly "missing" ... precisely one week prior to our November 7th "drop dead date."
We should have known something was up when new stories about TWA 800 began to appear in the news last Saturday. These stories sought to further the ridiculous notion that this plane simply blew up in midair due to a design flaw with the plane (see Bill Donaldson's report). In retrospect, it should have been obvious that these sudden new "leaks" were calculated to put the notion of design problems in the public ear and were preparatory to yet another mysterious aviation accident in this region.
The first problem we had with the apparent crash of this flight was in the numbers. Many of our regular readers wrote to us and pointed out the excessive number of "19.5" and "33" coincidences related to this flight. According to an Egypt Air official, Chairman of the Board, Eng. Mohammed Fahim Rayan, live on CNN, the plane spent "nineteen and a half hours" in the United States on this particular series of flights.
In fact the exact time (according to the New York Port Authority timeline) was specifically 19 hours and 47 minutes (!), the so-called "tetrahedral value" (see below) we have cited on so many occasions. The flight number 990 is of course divisible by three as 330, or 330 X 3 (33-3 anybody?) Add to that the fact that according to the Pentagon there were 33 Egyptian military officers on board, the plane was at 33,000 feet when it began its horrendous crash dive (down to just over 16,700 feet when transponder contact was finally lost), it had picked up 33 passengers in Los Angeles, it disappeared exactly 33 minutes after take off, and it had just over 33,000 flight hours -- and we of course were very interested. [Note: all of these numbers have been reported, but not necessarily confirmed at this time].
It is perhaps important here to review the significance in the overall "Egyptian/NASA/Masonic ritual" we have been tracking of these two numbers. 19.5° appears repeatedly in the ruins at Cydonia, and over and over again in the stellar alignments we have noted in the significant moments of various NASA missions. 19.5° (rounded - actually 19.471°) is also significant as an expression of the circumscription of a tetrahedron by a sphere, which is the key to understanding Enterprise principal investigator Richard C. Hoagland's Hyperdimensional Physics theory. (See also Hoagland and Torun's The Message of Cydonia)
33° has also appeared repeatedly in these same NASA stellar alignments, connected primarily to a variety of missions planned and executed by astronauts and agency officials of shared membership in the same fraternal secret society -- the Scottish Rite Freemasons. The 33rd degree just happens to be the highest "degree" attainable in this secret society, and is expressive of the highest levels of spiritual enlightenment and hidden knowledge. Both have at times appeared in connection with other events political and newsworthy, but have been most commonly obvious within the planning and execution of NASA missions (i.e. when Mars Pathfinder landed at 19.5° N lat by 33.7º W long on July 4th, 1997).
This "19.5°" and "33°" ritual pattern has recently been confirmed in a soon to be published research paper by Mary Weaver, an electrical engineer and data analyst who took on this task for us here at Enterprise.
What we have never really discussed is that both of these numbers are essentially "tetrahedral," and locked together inextricably by the expression of their mathematical constants. The sine of 19.471° is .3333, so in essence it can be said that both numbers, when expressed in degrees, point back to tetrahedral geometry. To find a convergence of several 19.5's and 33's within a specific narrative, like the supposed crash of an Egyptian aircraft (both the ruins at Cydonia and the Scottish Rite have symbolic and numerical linkages to the traditions of ancient Egypt) is (to us) a relatively sure indication that we are dealing with --
A specifically manufactured event ??
As the planes itinerary became public in the hours after the crash, a number of red flags were raised. After taking on passengers in Los Angeles, AP reported that Egyptian television and Egypt Air officials had reported that the plane had landed at Edwards Air Force Base in California.
The CNN reporters, covering what was at the time merely an "aircraft disappearance," noted how
unusual it would be for a civilian airliner -- and a foreign airliner, at that! -- to land at an American military base. Then, shortly after 6:00 AM EST, CNN independently confirmed this bizarre twist. Immediately, US Government officials moved to squelch the Edwards aspect of the story; by 10:16 AM EST, Reuters was reporting that FAA officials were trying very hard to shoot down (pun intended) the idea that the plane had ever landed at Edwards. "This Edwards story has got to stop. This plane didn't go into Edwards!" FAA spokesman Bruce Nelson in Los Angeles insisted.
No subsequent attempt has been made to explain why Egypt Air officials would lie about such a thing, and certainly the airline would be in a better position to know the itinerary for their own plane than FAA would. It is possible that FAA spokesman were simply wrong because they were operating from the filed flight plan as opposed to the actual itinerary that airline officials were using. However, we smelled a rat.
A quick examination of the airplanes official itinerary gives us a possible answer. According to the itinerary, the plane left Los Angeles some 4 hours later than it should have: 4:30 PM PDT, as opposed to 12:30 PM PDT. This has been attributed in news reports to "maintenance issues," but
that is surely enough time to make a quick trip to Edwards and back (about 15 minutes flight time each way). It is also possible that the plane could have left LAX at 4:30 PM PDT, made a stop at Edwards and still made it to New York by it's 12:48 AM EDT arrival time. They would have had to haul it, but with a tail wind it is more than doable.
The news organizations and official reports are also at odds with each other on another key issue. According to NTSB and FAA officials, there was NO distress signal from the plane. However, just as with the story of a "mysterious landing at Edwards," Egypt Air officials contradict the newly whitewashed "official" version of these events. According to Egypt Air, a distress signal was heard from the aircraft.
Moreover, the surprising new radar data -- indicating that the crew somehow managed to regain control of that aircraft, even after its extraordinary dive, and even somehow got it to climb, from ~17,000 feet to 24,000 feet -- makes the idea of "no time for a Mayday" in this timeframe even more ridiculous. The ground-based radar-indicated turn at 24,000, just before the aircraft's final, fatal plunge, at least circumstantially, indicates that the crew HAD contacted the New York Center, and (logically!) HAD requested clearance to turn back to JFK! Then, "something" -- this time, catastrophically -- apparently once again intervened (see below) ... this time sealing Flight 990's doom ... of course, government officials are now trying to attack the validity of the radar data (see above) as well.
Even so, several aviation experts [like Cmdr. William Donaldson (Ret.), and former Federal Aviation Administration investigator Rodney Stitch] are now expressing the obvious; that Flight 990 was downed as a result of a terrorist act. The explanation for these increasing "political/evidence" discrepancies is unclear, even if the possible motivation isn't.
If you are attempting to cover up an illegal activity that has made the news as this one has, it is imperative that everything about the story appear "normal" if you are going to sell a conventional explanation like mechanical failure. Obviously a foreign aircraft with military passengers landing at an American military base completely "out of order" is going to raise some eyebrows. It is possible that the contents of the distress signal may have contained some information which would put the lie to the desired conclusion. In any event, it seems that FAA and NTSB officials engaged in a full court press Sunday morning to ensure that both the Edwards story and the distress signal story were suppressed.
Then from Oslo, Norway, where he was to meet the next day with President Clinton and other major leaders from the Middle East, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarek quickly denounced the idea that the plane may have gone down in an act of terrorism. It is hard to understand how a politician, thousands of miles from the scene, and before any investigation had even been launched (!), could have such in-depth knowledge of counter-terrorism and airframe engineering, but Mubarek was adamant that this tragedy would ultimately turn out to be due to "a mechanical flaw."
Now we can hardly expect the purveyors of "nit-witness news," like CNN's highly disappointing replacement for the sorely missed John Holliman, Miles O'Brien, to appreciate the esoteric aspects of "tetrahedral numbers." But what we find unfathomable is his (and his colleagues at the other networks) complete disinterest in the various conflicting mainstream aspects of this story. Not only did network and wire service news coverage not even bother to question the basis for Mubarek's hasty comments, they have not addressed in any meaningful way the discrepancies between the Egypt Air officials and the official US government versions of events. Nor, now, the increasing contradictions between the various U.S. agencies themselves -- NTSB, USAF, and New York's Port Authority. Instead, they have simply chosen to ignore them.
We seem to be witnessing a literal (if, until now, well hidden) War -- between Mayor Giuliani and the Port Authority on one side, and the NTSB on the other (the specifics of which we will address below) -- now apparently joined in contradiction by the United States Air Force itself! Yet, the general media are obviously deliberately avoiding saying anything about these contradictions. It seems to us that "someone" is trying very hard to place an air of normalcy around this "accident," when the actual environment seems to be anything but.
An even bigger abrogation of their journalistic duty is the failure to even consider a quite obvious motivation for a terrorist act against Egypt...
Operation "Bright Star!"
"Bright Star," for those of you that are symbolically challenged, is named for the brightest star in the sky -- Sirius -- the celestial equivalent of the ancient Egyptian goddess Isis. Think of it as "Operation Sirius" or "Operation Isis." During this massive military exercise (which ended November 2nd) involving 11 nations (with another 33 invited to observe) and huge amounts of US troops and equipment, Defense Secretary William Cohen made it clear that "Bright Star" was aimed squarely at Saddam Hussien.
Libyan strongman Mohramar Khaddafi cannot have been pleased to have such a large US contingent on his border, either. Yet not one newsman has considered aloud whether one or the both of them may have taken a measure of revenge on their Arab neighbor by downing one of their commercial planes?
We also cannot help but notice that if anything does come down on November 7th, just five days after the completion of the exercise, there would be plenty of US troops in a position to protect the "Holy Land."
Clearly, there are some unanswered questions about what happened to this flight. Just as clearly, the US news media is rushing to the judgment that it was not a terrorist act, despite plenty of "conventional" reasons to suspect that it was. Besides the circumstantial evidence we have amassed here, the strange events of the flight itself, the swift denial of these same events, the curious disinterest on the part of media in pursuing these issues and the stunning "death" theme of the stellar alignments (see below), what proof do we have that this plane was killed? That this was not just an "accident?" We have a smoking gun.
Thanks to Charlie Plyler of Elfrad and Kent Steadman of Cyberspace Orbit, we have been able to track the presence of Extremely Low Frequency waves at the time of the disaster. Exactly one hour before the plane left the ground at JFK (5:18 UT) a strange, fairly regular pulse began to be detected. Then a 5:43 UT, exactly one hour before the plane's last radio call to New York, a strong Electromagnetic Pulse again fired off. It was almost as if someone was range finding or rehearsing for an hour later.
Another large spike in the data occurred at 6:01. Things got fairly quiet then until 6:20 UT, right as the plane was hurtling down the runway for take off. Then at 6:49 UT, there was another big spike in this data (recorded from North Carolina) right in the midst of our symbolic nine minute window and Flight 990's death throes. The timing of this shot is coincident with the latest radar data showing the initial rapid descent of the aircraft. There is yet another pulse at 6:56 UT, when (again, according to the new radar data) the plane had recovered some 8,000 feet of altitude, and then suddenly and catastrophically began it's fatal high speed crash dive and break-up. Whatever happened up there, it left a shadow behind in Charlie's ELFRAD data.
This is exactly the sort of signature we would expect from a "Hyperdimensional Weapon," a highly sophisticated device used to either knock out the planes electronics or perhaps take control of the plane from a remote location.
Before you dismiss this idea too quickly, you should note that "two way telemetry" has been a feature of Formula1 racing cars for the better part of this decade, and was in place in a limited way in fighter aircraft as far back as the F-4 Phantom. In fact, the use of this "remote tweaking" of the engine and suspension settings had become so widespread that the technology was ultimately banned over fears that competing teams would crack into each others cars and wreak havoc with the opponents engine management systems hydraulics. This then would explain the relatively inexplicable radar data.
The speeds that the plane achieved indicate not a simple 'crash dive' of a crippled aircraft, but rather a full throttle power dive almost straight down! It is as if the autopilot (or something else) deliberately dove the airplane, and then the pilots somehow recovered it ... only to have the controls literally yanked out of their hands and the death dive restored. This new data is so at odds with any kind of "normal" mechanical failure, that aviation experts (as of this morning) are now openly raising the possibility that this might have even been a suicide ... committed by the pilot.
Yet, all of this would be just slightly above the level of noise were it not for a few reliable tests of our theory. As those of you that have followed our investigations over the last few years are aware, we have what we consider a fairly sure-fire way of testing whether certain events are merely "random acts" or are somehow tied to this on-going "NASA/Masonic/Egyptian" conspiracy (see again Mary Anne Weaver's new paper, mathematically confirming the "ritual alignment model"). By checking the alignments of key stars (equivalent to ancient Egyptian gods) at the specific location and times of these events, we can see if the event was tied this clandestine ritualistic system.
In this case, it was.
According to the Port Authority timeline, the last radio communication from the aircraft was 1:43 AM EST. We got the coordinates of the impact zone from news stories on Sunday. With both the location of the crash and the time it is fairly easy to plug in the data to Red Shift 2 and check the stars. What we found surprised even us.
Comet Encke, the heart of the Taurid Meteor Stream, the central celestial object in the entire "November 7th" scenario -- was dead on the visible horizon. Even though Red Shift 2 places the comet at some 36 arc minutes (roughly one half degree) below the horizon at this critical juncture, Comet Encke would actually be optically on the Horizon because of atmospheric refraction. Even when you adjust for the altitude of the aircraft (33,000 feet) and allow for diminished refractive effects due to the thinner atmosphere, the comet would still appear to be dead on the horizon from the airplane's perspective ... due to the geometrically lowered horizon with increasing altitude.
So what role does the horizon play in this ancient ritual? To the ancient Egyptians, stellar objects on the horizon were thought to be in transition to the underworld, the abode of Osiris, God of death and resurrection. To them, the horizon symbolically represented the brief period between life and death, the ultimate dimensional evolution of the soul. This effect was even more pronounced if the object descended to the West, as the sun did daily, as the West was where Osiris specifically awaited these transitioning souls.
And of course, on this night and at this time, Encke was virtually due West. This symbolic event, the last word from the doomed flight, opened a nine minute window in which the catastrophic events that destroyed the plane and killed all those aboard took place.
By 1:52 AM EST, the plane was lost from the radar screens.
At that moment, across the sea in Giza, Egypt, just outside of Cairo -- the home of Egypt Air, Orion (Osiris), the god of death, judgment and resurrection, awaited these new souls on the Horizon --
-- Absolutely due West.
It would be striking enough to find one of the belt stars of Orion on the Horizon, but to have Alnilam, the center belt star, dead on the Western horizon as this plane was literally dying is astonishing. It is probable that this brief nine minute period when the plane went down is the only time these two bodies and locations were synchronized in this way for years, decades, or even centuries!
The symbology is as undeniable as it is disturbing. An Egyptian plane with 33,000 flight hours, after spending 19.5 hours in the US, which had carried 33 passengers on the previous leg of its trip, carrying 33 Egyptian military officers at 33,000 feet 33 minutes after take off from a city absolutely drenched in Egyptian motif at the moment, dies just as Comet Encke (Taurus Meteor stream/Set - the Egyptian version of Satan) is on the Western (death) horizon (representing the spiritual evolution at the moment of death). At virtually the same moment, from the view of the Pyramids of Giza (the belt stars of Orion) Orion's (Osiris "President of the Westerners") middle belt star is dead on the horizon (representing the spiritual evolution at the moment of death) due West (death).
What makes this even more unnerving -- in the scenario that all these events connected to Comet Encke have been carefully planned -- are the equally "coincidental" orbital parameters of Encke itself.
This particular Comet, with the shortest period of any comet known, follows a highly elliptical path around the Sun as all other comets do ... only this one, the one for whom the official JPL Comet Website is named, has a period of 3.3 years ... Even more unbelievable: its perihelion distance (closest approach) to the Sun is 0.33 of the Earth's distance, or, ~ 33 million miles!
The implications of these additional Encke "33 coincidences," added to the already "impossible"
string of "19.5" and "33s" associated with Flight 990 itself, are profound. Because, of course, Encke is supposed to be a "natural" object ... yet, whose very orbit now is somehow echoing the same, precise tetrahedral geometry of the Egyptian ritual itself!
And that's, of course, impossible.
As we have come to expect, the weirdness of this story hardly ends there. Adding to the bizarre "ritual Egyptian fingerprints" that are literally now all over this disaster, is the unique "Egyptian persona" of the doomed aircraft itself.
Known to Boeing merely as another "767-300," and now to the world as "the ill-fated Egypt Air Flight 990," to the Egyptians, long before this tragedy, this particular 767 had its own unique cultural identity: the plane was specifically and carefully named after perhaps the greatest of all Egyptian Pharaohs, reigning in the Eighteenth Dynasty of the New Kingdom (1504-1450 BC), "Thothmosis III."
On this 767 that night, 33,000 feet above the moonlit Atlantic, his Royal Titulary -- Thothmosis III's Royal Name, after the Egyptian god of "Knowledge," Thoth -- was proudly emblazoned on its fuselage, beneath the cockpit windows, as it had been on a thousand flights before ...
Acknowledged by many historians as Egypt's "greatest and most powerful ruler," and even called by some "The Napoleon of Antiquity," Thothmosis III presided over Egypt's greatest period of foreign expansion in its entire 3000-year-long history. Born of a lesser wife, Isis (!), to his father, Thothmosis II, according to Egyptologist Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop, writing in "The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality" (Lawrence Hill Press, Chicago, 1974):
"... [During his reign, Thothmossis III] overpowered all the States of Western Asia and the islands of the Eastern Mediterranean, reducing them to the status of vassals compelled to pay annual tribute. This was the case with Mitanni ... Babylonia, Cilicia, the Hittite State, Cyprus, Crete, etc. Syria and Palestine were simply integrated into the Egyptian Kingdom ...
In any case [under Thothmosis III], Egypt was then the foremost technical, military, and imperial power in the world ..."
As part of Thothmosis III's royal pharonic legacy, like his esteemed predecessors and successors, one of his expected duties was to embark upon a series of major public works at home. Among the Egyptian monuments specifically dedicated to Thothmosis III's eternal name, history records the ironic saga of "four huge granite obelisks" constructed to his fame; through the subsequent vagaries of history, these intended eternal celebrations of Thothmosis III's imperial Egyptian reign ultimately wound up in cities far from Egypt...
Two of these monuments -- measuring over a hundred feet in height -- were eventually hauled out of Egypt a few hundred years before the birth of Christ, and re-erected in what would soon become the two religious "poles" of ancient Christendom -- Rome and Constantinople.
Then, in the late 1800's, three thousand years after they were dedicated in his name, Thothmosis III's two "lesser" obelisks -- each a "twin" some 65 feet in height and popularly known by the completely erroneous designation, "Cleopatra's Needles" (she ruled almost 1500 years after Thothmosis III!) -- were ultimately given to the cities of London and New York, by the (then) Moslem ruler of Cairo.
There, on opposite sides of the Atlantic, they were ceremoniously re-erected about a hundred years ago with full Masonic rites ... curious reenactments, in the "western" world, of their former life in Egypt. So, in an "ancient Egyptian" sense, this modern version of the ancient obelisk, the Boeing 767 -- Flight 990, the plane that carried his Royal Name -- became for all modern Egyptians what Thothmosis III's long-dispersed obelisks alone were never able to obtain ... the long sought-for "immortality" of "Thothmosis III!" Until ... at 1:43 AM EST, on October 31, "something" deliberately killed Thothmosis III's "own" plane!
And, in the most insidious "coincidence" of all, it turns out that it was none other than Thothmosis III himself who, as part of his aggressive "Asiatic campaigns" ~3000 years ago, led the infamous siege of an otherwise unprepossessing "crossroads town" in ancient Palestine. A town that, once taken by the Eighteenth Dynasty's Pharaoh's massed war chariots and 700,000 marching men-at-arms, would live on in Historic Immortality itself ...
As the New Testament namesake for "the end of Everything" -- "Megiddo" ... Armageddon! For Thothmosis III is none other than the famed "Pharaoh of Armageddon" ... whose Twentieth Century symbolic airplane was being viciously and ceremonially killed, it's passengers and crew deliberately and cruelly sacrificed ... even as the Nation's major news presses were printing pre-dawn front page stories that same Sunday morning, on a just-announced, FBI counter-terrorism operation called ...
"Project Megiddo!"
While, mere hours after Thothmosis III was "killed," the President of the United States ("President of the Westerners") and major leaders from "Palestine" itself, would meet in Oslo, Norway, to ostensibly discuss ways to artfully avoid fulfilling "Armageddon" ...
And all this CANNOT be just mere "coincidence!"
It is this final, direct link to Thothmosis III which ties the Egypt Air fight to the November 7th date. To have the literal "Pharaoh of Armageddon" ritually sacrificed as Set "The bringer of Chaos" watched from the death position on the Horizon (in the personage of Comet Encke -- through whose tail this planet will pass beginning November 6th) as Osiris (the god of death judgment and resurrection) watched from literally the same Western "death" position (in the personage of Orion) at Giza, is too much. This is the most overt, calculated, and outrageous act that this multinational cabal has ever attempted. Their complete disregard for whom may be watching and tracking their bizarre ritual killings is either a sign of the security of arrogance, or the desperation of panic.
It is this second possibility which has us the most concerned. If this was indeed a ritual sacrifice, there is really only one reason to perform such an act. Upon recognizing the signs that a great change or cataclysm is coming, one may try to "steal the magic" that is in the air for your own personal protection.
By sacrificing some of your own to the angry God, Set/Encke in this case, you can appease him and perhaps have yourself spared from what ever is coming down. In addition, you might also appeal to the other gods (Osiris, Horus, Isis) by acknowledging their sacred numbers, to protect you from his onslaught. Is that what these 33 Egyptian military officers were doing on this flight? Sacrificing themselves so that their nation will be spared from -- what? The Taurid meteor stream? On November 7th? The Leonids later in the month? An object from the trail of the newly discovered Comet Linear? A bio terror attack?
We don't know. While many signs point to something happening with the Taurid stream, we have noticed that some of our contacts seem just a bit too anxious to convince us that November 7th is "the day." Others say that yes, the problem is cometary debris, but it will be from an object in one of the other storms later in the month.
Meanwhile, we are now convinced that the original "Millennium Group" video objects are not legitimate, that they were misinterpreted by TMG and by us until we were able to get our hands on better quality video of the eclipse (Full report to follow). So if our original reason for looking at November 7th as an "event date" was due to trusting someone else's flawed analysis (and then being told that there were "3 objects" by our mysterious caller), doesn't that make the whole thing illegitimate?
Not necessarily. What if we stumbled on to a "real" problem by following a false trail? Certainly, some of our contacts have indicated that they were aware of a "November problem" well before the Millennium Group's article.
So where does that leave us? The only thing we are relatively certain of is that Egypt Air 990 was "killed" in a deliberate act. It did not fall out of the sky of its own accord. The symbolic aspects of this ritual murder all point to an "Armageddon problem," and probably sooner rather than later. Do the purveyors of this "Armageddon script," which is draped all over this crash, know something that we don't?
Again, we do not know. All we can do is watch, and wait, and hope for the best ... and Trust No
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Sorry to have to send you this and I know most will not read it 'casuse it's a bit long (40kb), but you fail to read it at your own peril. It's time to get SERIOUS !
The Y2K circuit is buzzing, about this. It's from a chat line called OilChat, and it center's on a woman named DD, who says she's been an oil rigand oil field consultant for 30 years, and gives us some really heavy duty information about what she thinks we can expect from that situation. I find her credible, as a person - though, of course, I have no knowledge of the field. But there is more to the stuff that is circulating, than this one chat...there's also another, twice as long as this, which is a multi- dialogue between a dozen or more with varying degrees of actualoil rig experience, debating the pros and cons of what she is saying...and while it is never fully resolved, she has quite a bit of support among them. If any of you are interested, I can forward that second chat run privately.
If she is right, about the frequently touted oil reserves in this country amounting to hardly anything at all, and the potential reduction of available oil by as much as 60 to 70%, BEFORE THE MONTH OF
JANUARY IS OUT-- if she is only halfway right! -- then all the other work
toward remediation is not going to save this country from a really huge crash, and well before springtime. This sits BEHIND the condition of the power grid, just as the power grid sits behind the compliance of every other part of the infrastructure. It is surely something we need to think about, as we make our own plans for coping with it. Irv
The following captured discussion is however, not hard news. It is opinion, and the opinion of a doomer at that. Nevertheless, it hasan internal integrity that impresses me. It appears to me to be INSIDER discussion. It is the sort of thing that helps shape and direct my thinking. BUT, it is not the type of thing that I usually broadly share. HOWEVER, a number of people with whom I have shared this think that I should share it more broadly.
It came to me as a secondary source of an edited version of a chat Jon Hylands participated in Oct 26. AND I have edited it further.
Many, many months ago I wrote an article saying how Gas and Oil are the SMOKING GUN of Y2K, and so this sort of thing still comes to me. To me, this verifies my position further. But you must remember the following discussion reflects the views of a 'doomer'. Selection of a discussion by a 'polly' could give you quite different views.
My source reports that Jon Hylands has had private conversations with DD and can vouch that she is for real and that she also had a private conversation Greg Caton (who had a two hour phone conversation with DD) and agrees with what is reported here.
(Allaha) DD, tell us about your background.
(DD1stLight) I am a top problem solver/facilitator in the oil/gas industry so have a broader picture than most in my industry. Have beenworking with some large independents (none of the 'public' companies willadmit or do much) that are doing what they can to ensure as large an output as they can.
(Ryker) How's things in the oil industry?
(DD1stLight) Actually I am working on a job that is geared to propane,so it feels good to be doing things that will actually aid theseproblems. I am in Corpus Christi right now. None of the work I am doing is close enough to my home to help us out, but it will aid some.
(Ryker) I've heard conflicting reports on oil supply. One person says there's a 6 month supply stored up in US. Other reports I've heard say about 30 days. Which is right?
(DD1stLight) Neither. The 'strategic petroleum reserve' is a bit of a myth. It is very poor grade and the ability to pump it out and then refine it is very limited. There is about a 3 1/4 day supply of refined product available in the system in normal times.
(Hylands) Since the SPR is stored in caverns, I would suspect contamination problems.
(Ryker) So, the claim of 6 month supply stored up is WAY off base?
(DD1stLight) Well, it is MAYBE 6 months of very limited basic usage, but it would take a couple of years to get it out, transport, refine, etc. so it is basically a myth. We have deep problems some of which are not fixable - period
(Ryker) The reserve is not for public use, just for military, power plants, and distribution of essential goods?
(DD1stLight) Generally but even that would be improbable at best. After January, public use - even rationed - is out of the question given the short supply.
(Hylands) That would spiral into an economic collapse so fast it wouldn't be funny
(Ryker) I know... Think we're headed for that anyway...
(DD1stLight) I see absolutely no way that economy will not fall very flat on its face. Remember, that at the very worst in the 70's "oil crisis" we were dealing with a 7% reduction in availability. I will be jumping up and down if my industry can supply 45% of today's refined product, (and remember that is only about 40% at best of our daily usage at present)
(jcollins) How would this affect the local production of oil? Booming times for local crude?
(DD1stLight) Local crude is in deep trouble, problems down hole not possible to fix, then have to get to refineries (which are band-aided to pieces as it is) then distribution etc. But some of the biggest problems are that we have few 1 for 1 replacement chips. So we have to re-blueprint DAB's etc. and that takes many long months most times
(Ryker) And chip plants are overseas which involves other problems
(y2kworried) So, it sounds like it will take a long time to get oil production back.
(DD1stLight) That's right. There are no quick fixes for lots of things
(Hylands) If it takes more than a few weeks to get it back, I don't think it's going to happen at all
(DD1stLight) Lots of power companies are stocking 2 to 4 weeks of fuel so we don't expect most problems to become critical until 3rd week of January. For the first time in my life I find myself agreeing with the Dept of Defense. They are figuring contingencies on 30% availability of today's supply of oil and gas.
(Hylands) Susie, any new news on the Fed Reserve dude?
(susie0884) The guy, who retired from the Fed, was planning to spend the winter in the Northern mountains. Will be there before Nov. and to get out of DC where he is presently. Who goes to MT or ID for the winter?
(DD1stLight) People for the most part are so terrified of it crashing that they will and are doing lots in hopes they can keep it afloat etc. Remember that half of all American households are invested in the stock market or commodities and most of them are hip deep in debt to boot. Amazing the number who have taken out home equity loans and used all or part to invest in the market. Scary
(GregCaton) I have been getting reports this week about likely disruptions in oil supply, mostly foreign. I got a call this morning from a good friendin San Antonio who has a business associate (retired full-bird colonel from Navy) who has been overseas recently and confirms that very little remediation is being done where it needs to be in oil.
(DD1stLight) Well, foreign has big troubles but not much worse than our own, I am sorry to say
(TymeNTide) My company in Alabama has about 1000 employees, in my case. not more than 10 compliant computers in the entire biz..... still "working on it".....
(DD1stLight) sounds about right from what I am getting from buddies who are still overseas (most of which have come on home already). The best we can figure is 26% to 34% of today's availability, sorry wish it was better news. If oil production is over 40% I will be dancing in the street. I am looking for a minimum 60% drop in availability. Anyone want to hear a true story?
(Hylands) Sure, DD1
(DD1stLight) The 3rd week of July last year Mobil Oil got their 'analysis' for remediation. It was $460 Million + and over 3 1/2 years. They came back 2 weeks later and asked for a new analysis with differing base criteria. About 6 weeks later they did a 'merger' with Exxon, remember? 11 majors have since done similar things and the number of filings to reorganize into limited liability companies and partnerships is amazing. The majors are joining and the front companies will fold under and the back up companies will reestablish when they can. Why would an industry let itself start the big problems now when they can cash in for however many months they can? Like Exxon front, Mobil back etc. The back up companies are taking the cash and will start again under new names when they can.
(GregCaton) Is this to avoid the effects of litigation? Distinguish between front and back companies.
(Dean--DuhMoyn) Do they think deflation will cause all prices to drop, so a long is a big gamble?
(DD1stLight) To take a "long" you have to figure there will be enough to go around somehow. This move is for litigation and the surety that they will fail on supply contracts. Remember they have had experience at being made the "bad-guy" to the American public. They learned well.
(GregCaton) But with something like this, no one can believe that there is a basis to single out oil companies and make them a whipping boy.
Want a whipping boy for Y2K? Microsoft is a far more likely candidate. >From a supply / demand situation... what is the basis for thinking that there will be a deflation in oil anytime soon?
(DD1stLight) Supply has deep problems. Our refineries are some of the oldest and nastiest there are and we have been unable to build new ones in this country for many years now. They are band-aided to the max now. Remediation for most is next to impossible. It is MUCH cheaper to build new when they can.
(GregCaton) Yes, DD, but you are assuming that the laws of supply and demand will go out the window
(DD1stLight) Nope, supply and demand are basic but when the supply falls so far below even the minimal demand, people will get very angry. We had this situation in the past.
(Hylands) So, does the govt know this, or are the oil companies lying to them?
(DD1stLight) 8000+ letters sent to producers and only got back 450+ answers. Not many, so they just decided to use the 66 companies that they saw as most major and still their scenarios are a bit daunting. They tried to put a good face on it even then.
(GregCaton) When will the problem get out of control?
(DD1stLight) Expecting things to get sticky big time around the 3rd week of January.
(GregCaton) Is there a probability curve here? Or are you speaking with surety?
(DD1stLight) I have spent a good bit of time for the last 10 years gathering solid date, good math from my industry where possible. I like good numbers and want them to be verifiable in at least 2 ways; 3 is better. I would say this is real. The best I can come up with is 26 to 34% of current supply, optimistically 46
%(GregCaton) Is there anyone here who doesn't believe that if we had 60% drop in oil for 30 days, that we wouldn't be (a la Howard Ruff) at 2,000 Dow in 2000 ?
(Hylands) If it lasts for 30 days, it's all over
(Ryker`) Greg, if we have a 60% drop in oil for 30 days, the stock market won't be around any more...
(GregCaton) it will be around. Dormant, perhaps. Even under 2,000 points... but still around
(DD1stLight) I am trying to be optimistic, am hoping for 40% availability of today's supplies being available
(underpaid) Loss of oil flow - candling of pipelines - problems with tankers/ports - VERRRRY SERIOUS - End of economy PERIOD.
(Tulladew) Gasoline might be expensive, even if rationed
(DD1stLight) Rationed assumes there will be enough for basic services with some left over. These amounts are not sufficient for basic services etc. I expect nationalization at the least
(DD1stLight) Can anyone here think of a single industry that is not wholly or secondarily reliant upon the oil/gas industry? Refineries take several years to build even at critical speed, pipelines the same, wells take a while too etc.
(GregCaton) How long have you held these convictions, as to percentages, time line, etc ?
(DD1stLight) Greg, the first time I jumped up and down in a corporate board room about Y2K was in 1976. I started gathering serious data about 8 years ago as I saw little being done still about my industry specifically
(GregCaton) What caused you to be so concerned in 76 ?
(DD1stLight) I needed to input 1800's info into the computers and could not.
(GregCaton) 1800's info? Why?
(DD1stLight) My industry pays people who own the land/mineral interests according to the % the own so is very important, also for getting the rights by lease to explore for oil/gas etc. Deeds and court suits from the 1800's are many times still in effect today.
(Ryker`) Can I try to summarize to see if I got all this? You're saying that there may be a 60% drop in oil supply that will become evident about the 3rd week of January. And this drop may last years due to Y2K computer problems at everything from oil wells to refineries?
(DD1stLight) Yes. Add to that problems when/if a system that is down-hole noncompliant. A system that is physically located several hundred or thousand feet below the surface and is totally not accessible, and therefore cannot easily be fixed.
(GregCaton) Were they really that stupid ????
(DD1stLight) give him a cigar, yes. Redrill IF you can, but it is not possible to redrill many and get production again.
(Hylands) Greg, some of the natural gas wells up here in Alberta are dug 20,000 feet down
(GregCaton) DD1 ) And these deep wells do NOT have manual overrides?
(DD1stLight) not stupid, maybe ignorant - scariest thing i am seeing is some of the simplified assumptions that so many are making in remediation analysis
(Ryker`) It comes down to short term profits. If they can drill the well and start making money immediately, that's all they were worried about... Didn't want to spend time to redesign systems to make them compliant for an event that was years in the future...
(DD1stLight) EPA requires that the wells have RAMS - that is a great big snap valve that closes shut if there is a problem with the well that would/could make it unsafe/blowout etc. EPA required immediate response and actually very few people ever really gave it much thought
(y2kworried) The implications are staggering, our whole economy is based on automobile and truck transportation, and planes, and ships, and locomotives
(DD1stLight) Even hydro electric is totally reliant upon large amounts of very specific lubricant
(GregCaton) How many in upper management fully grasp / accept what you are now saying ?
(DD1stLight) Some. Most are like most people. They really do not want to look at the possibilities. Can't say I blame them. It's not like one guy knows the ins and outs of how his product is drilled, pumped, refined, distributed, etc.
(GregCaton) Is there the slightest doubt in your mind that this all equates to a depression more serious than the 30's ?
(DD1stLight) NONE. I am in a very unique position in that I am consultant to most majors and many minors and have been around so long I can get info
(GregCaton) How is it then that you would have a broad interdisciplinary overview... but few others in the board room would ???
(DD1stLight) Because I am a mean old lady who is more likely to kick someone on IT than kiss IT so I work strictly on contract. Also have more degrees than carter has pills and am known in the industry. I do everything from facilitate the sales of major companies to figure out how to get around a bottleneck at a refinery.
(GregCaton) Alright. (WIPING THE BLACKBOARD CLEAN..) Let's start fresh and talk about how this impacts the Inflation vs. Deflation arguments. Where do you stand on this issue? Inflationary Depression? Deflationary Depression? A complete economic collapse?
(DD1stLight) most of the old stripper wells have been plugged, few left really but no refineries are in worse shape than the wells
(Hylands) No commercial airplanes. Think about that for a minute.
(DD1stLight) we need to remember that $ is only worth anything because we all agree it is, when we stop agreeing we call it inflation or deflation. Most workers I talk to think it is only this plant that has problems. Another example of ostrich syndrome which is very understandable from a psychological viewpoint.
(GregCaton) .... feeling like we really ARE the first people in thefirst Titanic lifeboat.
(Hylands) Exactly my point.
(GregCaton) Amazing when you consider than 99.8% of the people in society reading this would think we're all psychotic.
(Hylands) Airplanes, trains, transport trucks, ships, electrical generation, you name it
(GregCaton) How much have the electric utilities done to stockpile gas, oil, coal, etc.
(DD1stLight) best I can find is that most are attempting to store an average of 3 weeks supply Some, like TU in east Texas, have their own coal mines and rails to them, but only have the ability to store about 4 weeks of lubricants
(GregCaton) So then the SHTF in late January?
(DD1stLight) Yes
(y2kworried) What is even more important: that oil is the basis of food production
(Hylands) oil is the basis of electricity, thus it is the basis for just about everything
(DD1stLight) most fertilizer is made from natural gas condensates. I have looked and looked for years now at every industry i can see becoming more dependant upon oil/gas and computers. NOT less. Tenneco and Chevron actually came clean on their last year's Q10 third quarter reports and stated they expect to have about 30% production available after Y2K
(DD1stLight) i keep hearing about the 'national grid system' which is a joke. texas has its own grid NO major AC connection to any other and only 2 main DC's for ballast
(Hylands) There are four main grids in North America
(Alwyn) San Onofre Nuclear Plant here sounded the all clear today ...forty people, three years, $10 million and repaired or replaced over 300 components./
(DD1stLight) The Texas grid is totally integrated, all have it or none have it, not possible to 'island' anywhere in Texas
(GregCaton) DD1 ) So... let's define what "10" means. In your mind will this cause the collapse of the U.S. Government as we know it?
(DD1stLight) government as we now know it, may well be. Some form of government will remain though. It is why the very best minds I know have already stopped taking contracts or if employee just did not show up for work one day and left no forwarding address
(Ryker`) Greg? Have you risen your estimate to a 10 now?
(GregCaton) If you live in Watts... it will be a 10. But if you're a self-sufficient farmer living in Colorado ... it might be a 3 as far as you're concerned. Don't know.
(DD1stLight) You got it, Greg. That's why I opt for 8.5 is a mean
(Hylands) Greg, how many people do you think depend on electricity, even rural farmers?
(GregCaton) Hylands - There are some farmers who have only had power since the '30's ... I think that farmers, with or without oil, are steeped in a tradition of hardship and "having to make due". "A country boy can survive..."
(Hylands) Exactly, how many? I'll bet it's not many. Now, we're pretty smart, so we'll figure a lot of stuff out, but still...
(Hylands) How many farms can irrigate their crops with a hand well pump? How many farmers today can grow their crops without bought seeds, fertilizer, diesel tractors, etc?
(DD1stLight) Few, and mules and oxen are a lost art to most and not available or trained etc. not like a tractor you can't just build one you have to grow it . And those horses are for the most part "pets" LOL
(Alwyn) They are pets, in the sense that they don't pull a plow. But, they are a resource.
(GregCaton) I'd say enough farms for about 10% of the people to make it.
(Hylands) Greg, that's about my figure, 10% . Yep, can you be sustainable with water, food, heat, and sanitation. People, without clean drinking water, will die
(GregCaton) So that's the task: be one out of the ten. (New slogan for the Marine Corp): "We're looking for a few good one out of tens!"
(DD1stLight) for goodness sakes folks DO NOT just take my word for all this, do your own research, there is plenty available on the net for you to see, just go to the real sites etc., check out the defense departments contingency plan figures for oil/gas. I think the biggest killers besides cholera, typhus, thyphoid and diptheria and dysentery. Will be pure old culture shock
(Hylands) This is why I think a 2 year food supply is a wise idea
(DD1stLight) I have to thank Hylander for inviting me to this room, it is good to be able to talk to people who have more than 2 brain cells to rub together and play with and are not caught into immobility by fear etc. * Hylands takes a bow
(Alwyn) Ryker...you can go low-tech and cheap on the purifier...Pur has systems for $30 that do everything a Kaytadn (sp) does for $300.
(Hylands) Alwyn, problem with the PUR is it won't do 20,000 gallons, and the Katadyn will
(GregCaton) DD1 )) Allow me to give you some perspective. Speaking personally, we're got two cisterns, a water well, (motor and manual)... 24 solar panels (75 watts each) within a complete solar system... protection (won't elaborate) ... ham radio equipment (I'm an Extra Class holder)..... who would do this if they didn't take Y2K seriously?
(DD1stLight) the RAMs located down-hole in the wells, we know that there are a goodly number that are NOT ok, when they malfunction we know (by actual testing) that they close the RAMs which cannot be reopened, cannot get to them to reset etc.
(Gary_Seattle) but Katadyn might not handle all of the stuff pur gets rid of
(Hylands) DD1, I'm really glad you came, and hereby invite you back again every Tuesday, same time
(DD1stLight) well we have cisterns, well, food etc. (actually can feed about 300+ people for about 3 months) but not much in the way of electricity generating, no radios etc.
(DD1stLight) one of the scariest assumptions i see people making is "it's analog, look no further" SHEEEEEESH!!! Many date sensitive chips were used in nondate related places because they were cheap, available, and did the job
(Aubrey) I've got a First Need deluxe and a simple Pur pitcher that will take out everything up to virus size particles
(DD1stLight) nite tyme, would not blame yall if you dreaded the day I came in. LOL and kicked Hylander for bringing me
(underpaid) DD1 - thanks for the doom! I like to keep those stress muscles worked out - gotta go - bye
(DD1stLight) still working with a couple of large independents that are racing to get small gas fields with propane generating capabilities up for the turnover so some will be available more
(DD1stLight) I really am called DD
(Hylands) DD1, I'm curious, have you noticed an increase in refinery explosions over the past year or so?
(DD1stLight) Not really. Lots of major breakdowns, but that is to be expected from antiquated refineries. What I cant figure out is how so many miss the implications of my industry. Its like most do not even think about it in the equation. I see it even in people who are honestly looking for real info. Come to think of it, why would most know much about it? It is a very 'closed' mouth industry, very competitive.
(Gary_Seattle) One thing I think DD1, we should keep quiet in our little neighborhoods about what we are doing
(DD1stLight) I try to respect the choices of those who do not choose to see all this, not my way, but must be appropriate for them
(GregCaton) It's like Gary North says ... if they aren't preparing by now, spreading the word is more likely to hurt you. It is one thing to prepare for neighbors. It is another thing to jeopardize your family by alerting the entire community.
(DD1stLight) we are all adult and agree to our course. I am an Elder of my people and such is our way. Have large greenhouses that will be in full production as well, and know all native plants.
(Guest75909) Tell us of your people.
(DD1stLight) I am of small band called Kee-Apa. And we also have much of medicines etc. We are from West Texas, kind of a mix of Comanche, Kiowa and Apache. There is no hospital there. How many are getting full vaccinations for choleraetc. so you can help those who get it? I am what this society calls a medicine woman and older partner is called the medicine man. I sit on the pan-american council of elders, so do much like when honduras and nicaragua got hit by Hurricane Mitch. The indigenous peoples there did not get govt help. By the time we can get in all diabetics etc. are already gone, worse death rate is usually from dysentery and parasites.
(GregCaton) DD1 ) I wanted to get back to some earlier unanswered questions that we couldn't cover because of all the chatter traffic .... At what point did it become apparent to you that this was an unavoidable train wreck ? Gary North likes to say that, for him, it was early 97.
(DD1stLight) About 3 years ago was about the last point that we could have really gotten it done to point that train would not derail or wreck takes many months to reblueprint DAB's etc.
(DD1stLight) and i speak of my industry there
(GregCaton) In other words, if they had put all their resources into remediation in late 1996, it might have been avoided?
(DD1stLight) YES. Almost certainly. I bought my house with it in mind 6 years ago, did not see much of anything being done and seemed improbable it would even then.
(GregCaton) I see. I asked you earlier if you saw any chance we wouldn't see (at the least) a 30's style depression, and you said NONE.
(DD1stLight) And do not forget that for this last year oil prices have been in the basement, Everyone liked the low prices but it took needed funds away when they were needed most, as the slump a couple of years ago did, too.
(DD1stLight) depression requires a base economy and ability to do much, don't think we will have it. Hope we will and that depression is the worst it will be
(Gary_Seattle) We don't have a base economy, we produce almost nothing
(DD1stLight) With currency that is not based in metals. It is only based in peoples opinion of the value of $. We have not even been able to feed our own population since the early 90's
(GregCaton) I have a friend who knows Ed Yardeni quite well. He says that in private, Yardeni paints a picture of extreme depression.
(DD1stLight) I am not surprised, kind of figured that Ed was burned out, and who could blame him. He has been vocal and would not like to be the roman messenger etc.
(GregCaton) DD1 ) Actually, the U.S. remains one of the world's largest exporters of food stuffs.
(DD1stLight) Foodstuffs, yes. But we have a population that demands large amounts of all products available year round
(Dean--DuhMoyn) What about deflation? For the first 3 months, then after. Will there be a US economy?
(Guest75909) The U.S. is a food exporter. Our graineries are stuffed to overflowing
(DD1stLight) but we import more than we export in edible human foods.
(GregCaton) I guess that depends on what we call edible.
(DD1stLight) graneries yes (with a rail system that cannot still seem to move it around sufficiently for a lot to not rot, due to the computer problems still of merging the UP with ATSF
(Gary_Seattle) The Dept of Agriculture does not have a huge food back up supply
(DD1stLight) ever seen anyone on a forced diet that was any fun to be around? LOL
(Guest75909) only as a matter of taste, and I will check that out ...doesn't sound right.
(DD1stLight) check out the produce from s. america, mexico etc. also. We use to feed the world I know, is a hard pill that we have let so very many family farms go under.
(Gary_Seattle) food from Mexico and S. America is full of garbage. In Mexico they use DDT.
(Guest75909) they got rid of food reserve program when they went to food stamps.
mebs) Where do our big canners get most of their produce?
(DD1stLight) I see the acres of greenhouses in far west texas growing momoculture vegetables
(Guest75909) produce from south america, mexico is seasonal ...we can have tomatoes and strawberries year around
(DD1stLight) tomatoes are main thing they are growing out there yes
(Guest75909) agribusiness is very efficient
(DD1stLight) any here old enough to remember when citrus was seasonal to buy here? or any of a dozen other items of produce we would all today consider a staple and be shocked it was not at store? I remember when local store had only onions, potatoes carrots year round
(Guest75909) I drive through the San Joaquin valley at various times of the year...the great garden of the world.
(DD1stLight) yes and i must say I really do like it. I would be most happy to see this all be a great big product of fertile imaginations.... but I do not seem to be able to live in that level of fantasy. I am extremely lazy and would like to stay that way
(Ryker) DD1... just out of curiosity, do you think the human race needs something like this to happen? To help slap us back to reality?
(DD1stLight) don't know about needing it but historically it seems to be a bit inevitable that something comes along. Interesting that so many cultures have prophesies that all are showing intriguing signs. Funny thing about TEOTWAWKI is that that seems to happen about every 30 years or so anyway, even without a big bang.
(Guest75909) DD) I asked earlier about shutdowns during rollover... is that going to be the norm in Texas?
(DD1stLight) I have heard some of the refineries and chemical plants talking of such and a couple have announced it like at Deerpark.
(Ryker) How old are you if you don't mind me asking??
(DD1stLight) Actually I do not really know but am probably in mid fifties. Just grew with old style people.
(GregCaton) I don't see it. Can you really think of anything, worldwide, to happen to civilization, that could be as big a meltdown as this? Anything at all that you could compare to?
(DD1stLight) I know it is impossible, no matter how hard I try, to grasp the real possibilities. The only thing I know for sure is that whatever scenario I come up with cannot be the whole of it
(Gary_Seattle) One thing no one brought up tonight are the solar flares coming (not to change subjects) to cause further disruptions
(GregCaton) Ham radio operators are already feeling its effects. On some nights there's very little HF traffic.
(DD1stLight) How about that mass coronal ejection on June 2? That was a biggy MCE's that size were theoretically possible yes, but was the first we really got to measure.
(GregCaton) Gary ... any news from your programmer friends in the field ????
(Gary_Seattle) are you familiar with Fleetwood Mac? "tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies..."
(GregCaton) That's it? They just tell you that everybody's lying about compliance?
(DD1stLight) Read carefully. Most 'statements' do not outright lie. They just leave out important issues. Tell me a single utility that has even broached the subject of fuel supplies.
(Ryker) Sounds a bit like the NERC reports. "Fill out this form so we know how we're doing. Oh, by the way. Here's what you should put on the form......" :\
(Gary_Seattle) Officially we are Y2K compliant. I got lucky, I was in the hospital the day I was supposed to sign the paper saying compliant.
(DD1stLight) what scares me is the companies who have spent only a fraction of their budget
(Dean--DuhMoyn) DD -- my electric company (Alliant) suggested getting extra firewood, a generator, water, food, etc.
(DD1stLight) I sent a letter to the co-op overseers in the state gov with some very tough questions. They did not reply, but sent them to my local co-op. The manager did not even understand the questions nor did any there.
(Gary_Seattle) so Greg, are you more or less optimistic today about Y2K?
(GregCaton) If even half of this is truth, I'm edging closer to 9.5 (major disaster)
(DD1stLight) Greg I was reading again today about all you bad boys who are 'hyping' all this stuff to make the big bucks. I wish to heck I was lying through my teeth
(GregCaton) Anyone who thinks we're getting rich on Y2K is wrong.
(Rodig) Is it just me, or does anyone else live 2 lives, one preparing for big problems and one planning as if nothing is going to happen at all?
(GregCaton) Rodig ) No... you are not alone in this. Forgive me if all this seems surrealistic, even though I've been studying the issue this long.
(Guest75909) preparing yes, and living the current life, yes ...working everyday, yes
(DD1stLight) In some ways I think it is harder now that we are all prepped. The doing was a comfort for a long time. Anyone get solace from stepping into their pantry from time to time?
(Gary_Seattle) I still am shocked by the media saying nothing about the coming storm
(DD1stLight) what actually could they say that would not just start the hard times sooner?
(GregCaton) NBC has scheduled a TV movie about Y2K Movie for November 21.
(DD1stLight) I'm looking at November 17th with interest. That's when the Leonid meteor storm hits and we ain't talking a shower, folks. This would be the first we have really had since we had satellites. Could be interesting. Last year it was not as close and they were able to turn the satellites 12 % to have the smallest face to it and could still get enough solar to operate. Two only were hit. Well now that I have probably succeeded in giving some nightmares, I must say it has been good to be able to talk truth tonight.
(Guest75909) DD...could you recap for those who came late to the party?
(DD1stLight) Best figures we can come up with is 26 to 34% of today's available supplies of oil/gas and refined products being available through about the 3rd, week of January. Even if was the reverse and was only a 30% decrease, it would be a very bad time. The worst of the 70's 'oil crisis' was about a 7% reduction. Figure no gasoline available to the general public after January
(Guest75909) Is that caused by refining problems here, transportation problems from overseas, or a combination of causes? (the usual suspects...chips, power problems, software snafus)
(Ryker) all of the above and then some
(DD1stLight) refining, wells, gathering lines, pipelines, etc. Old refineries that have been band-aided to the max already (haven't been able to build new ones mostly, the old "not in my back yard" syndrome). Also embedded chips in the offshore, onshore wells in RAMs etc. and then we get to the re-blueprinting of DABS etc. These figures are for domestic production, which is about 60% at best of our consumption. The overseas situation is even worse.
(Ryker) DD - Greg said a couple weeks ago that they are just now starting to work on the critical nav systems for freighters and tankers, and that there is now way they'll get done in time. If that's true, imports will be gone or severely reduced too...
(Guest75909). What about safety issues?
(DD1stLight) I do not really know that end of the industry well, sorry. But I know enough that I chose to live far from them. The safety issues are the ones that ARE getting massive attention, so I am not expecting bad problems.
(Guest75909) Did you know that the only work done on most refineries recently has been environmental compliance work? Safety is where the greatest liability issues are for the refiners.
(DD1stLight) yes that is the baby that is getting the attention, probably the best thing. Also is where a large percentage of the real problems are too. What gives me the willies are the naphtha etc. pipelines -shudder- Heck, we do not even know where a good many of the pipelines really are underground. I know it sounds crazy to those not in the business but is true.
(Guest75909) Yes--very evil mixtures of chemicals come out of those pipes... all flammable and toxic in the extreme.
(DD1stLight) also who back then would have been able to dream of the level of distribution we have and need today? Most of the right of way deeds even today do not pinpoint the location or even how many lines. They use 'blanket' right of ways that just allow to cross "as staked" or just across such and such a piece of land. Although most nowadays are documented well in the companies who build them, but give them one big take over and records get misplaced.
(Ryker) Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen with or without Y2K computer problems...
(DD1stLight) there have been some problem, and there will be more as they get older.
(Ryker) If an underground line breaks, how do they find the break if they don't know for sure where the line is?
(DD1stLight) if it breaks there is little difficulty finding the break, is usually a pretty big hole showing a big oil spill, although some they know have leaks they have never been able to find
(Guest75909) folks in the construction industry have to deal with this all the time... sometimes not successfully. there is an agency that tries to track this stuff but it is way too complex.
(DD1stLight) Yes, they try but the info is very sketchy many times
(Rodig) So what do you think the price of gas will go to, when you will be able to get it?
(DD1stLight) After January, there won't be any gas for public use at any price.
(Guest75909) Colonial says it will shut down its Houston to Linden (NJ) pipeline for at least 8 hours over the roll
(Gray_Seattke) whom is going to go to Blackfoot Idaho to uncover feet of snow to find which chip in the railroad is bad? NOT ME
(DD1stLight) well it might just help to shut them down and get them back up. But there is nothing to put in them or a way to pressurize all along the way won't do much good, I'm afraid
(DD1stLight) Also, I would be intrigued as to how they plan to shut down oil lines that require heating for them to flow. If it stops for long, it gets totally stuck.
(Guest75909) The Canadians say they are not going to shut down, that they are ready, and that shutdown is really a bigger problem than they anticipate from y2k
(DD1stLight) natural gas is better in pipeline but the wells themselves have problems and the gathering lines many times etc. all the EPA sensors etc. are a bit daunting
(mebs) is it really 40º where crude turns to sludge, DD?
(DD1stLight) depends upon the grade of the crude as to flow temp
(mebs) higher grades can handle lower temps?
(DD1stLight) grades of crude is a language all to itself and a bit too technical to get into here but the info is available. As a rule of thumb the lighter the grade the lower temp it can go
(mebs) ummmmm... think I'll pass on crude oil grades 101
(DD1stLight) figured as much. As to how long before most figure it out, most I know that are vitally interested in y2k have not, so don't figure the masses will. Why should most know these things? It is a pretty particular set of knowledge.
(Gray_Seattke) So, how bad do you think things will get DD1?
(DD1stLight) Worse than I can imagine but DO NOT see this as an 'end'. Big change, yes, but such is the norm in historical perspective. The cumulative errors are going to not be figurable as to timing and effect, just a general curve is best I can get. If the NCIC computer's problems that started this summer are any indication it could be worse than we think. By the way, NCIC =ational criminal information computer =he FBI
(Rodig) So do you think we will see oil shortages before January? (DD1stLight) Yes, from people topping off their tanks. Well, I hate to leave good company but I do have to sleep some.
(Ryker) DD, appreciate your presence tonight. It's been an eye opener
for sure..
(mebs) Sure was nice meeting you, DD
(DD1stLight) Thank you, you are all most kind.
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deleted to give continuity, and some brevity. You may still feel that it is a
jumble but you should be able to see the main thread.
The question is:
Who do you think is more believable - or likely to be accurate - a DD or your local banker?
Who do you think is more likely to understand the problem - a DD or the editor/publisher of your local paper?
Who do you think is more likely to tell it like it is - a DD or the PR persons, lawyers, and such of the establishment institutions?
And then we must ask - does DD really see the full picture? Or do you, or I?
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Y2K Newswire details the full, on-line government-approved patent for human barcoding technology. This system would tattoo humans with lasers, then use the bar code to track and authenticate purchases. Referenced by the patent: a livestock identification system for disposing of cattle carcasses
November 1, 1999
Following the recent suggestion by a V.P. at the Federal Reserve (see our feature article titled, "V.P. Wants Tracking Technology...") that cash be tracked and citizens be taxed for holding cash, Y2K Newswire has now learned that a human barcode patent has been issued by the United States government. (Special thanks to the reader who sent in this tip.) In this members-only feature article, we reveal the patent number, the web link for viewing the patent yourself, and a detailed analysis of the potential impact of this technology.
A BAR CODE IS TATTOOED ON AN INDIVIDUAL... The patent in question begins with this summary:
"A bar code or a design is tattooed on an individual. Before the sales transaction can be consummated, the tattoo is scanned with a scanner. Characteristics about the scanned tattoo are compared to characteristics about other tattoos stored on a computer database in order to verify the identity of the buyer. Once verified, the seller may be authorized to debit the buyer's electronic bank account in order to consummate the transaction. The seller's electronic bank account may be similarly updated."
The patent goes on to describe some of the steps for using this technology:
providing identity information about a purchaser on a storage medium
providing skin marking invisible ink
applying said invisible ink to an appendage of said purchaser to form a tattoo on said purchaser
storing characteristics about said tattoo on said storage medium to form stored characteristics about said tattoo
linking said identity information about said purchaser to said stored characteristics about said tattoo
THE PATENT LINK You can find the patent summary by clicking here. This will take you to IBM's patent search engine. From there, you can explore other patent details such as the patent claims (there are 10).
LIVESTOCK IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM This patent also references a "livestock identification system" patent. You can find this referenced patent by clicking here.
The summary for this livestock identification system patent sheds a kind of morbid light on the human barcode patent.Read it yourself and see:
"An apparatus for identification of animals passing through a packing plant including an elevated track extending through the packing plant for guiding carcasses through various processes and testing stations. ...A gambrel is provided for attaching such animal carcasses to the trolley. The trolley identification is operably attached to each of the trolleys for providing positive identification of each individual trolley. Animal identification is attached to each carcass which is hung from each gambrel for providing individual carcass identification information. A carcass identification reader is provided adjacent to the path of the carcasses being moved along the track and this information is also input into the computer. A program is provided for matching the trolley identification number with the carcass identification information. Various processing, testing and information stations are disposed along the track and trolley identification readers are also disposed along the track at such stations for automatically reading the trolley identification."
Understand what's being done here: the human barcode technology patent is referencing a patent for animal carcass processing and disposal systems. It's always faster to dispose of carcasses when they're branded with laser barcodes, of course. But what kind of sicko would apply this technology to humans?
(Is anybody else seeing visions of the movie, "Soilent Green" here?)
This stuff is sick, sick, sick. Yet the United States government has authorized the intellectual ownership of this idea by granting a patent for it. So what's all this technology for anyway?
THE BIG PLAN One theory suggests we are headed toward a branded-ID financial transaction authentication system. The system has several advantages, of course. First off, you can't "forget your wallet" when it's tattooed on your arm. Secondly, it's a foolproof authentication system. But the risks to freedom far outweighs the advantages of this system.
But the advantages to the federal government are huge. For one thing, it would create a national ID system that would allow person-by-person tracking of all financial transactions. It would also free banks from the already-ridiculously-low fractional reserve requirements by removing all cash from society. This would allow banks to infinitely multiply the money base simply by manipulating numbers in a computer. With no cash reserve requirement, there's no ceiling on the money multiplication factor.
And lastly, it would allow the federal government to not only know the spending habits of all U.S. citizens, but also the whereabouts, in real time, of everyone. The moment you complete a financial transaction using your tattoo bar code, a government database tracks your physical location.
Supposing the powers-that-be really wanted to put this system in place, how would they accomplish it?
First, they have to get a unique ID assigned to each person (the social security system was a good start), and next they have to get the public to agree to be branded, doing away with the whole credit card idea. Instead, you'll have a credit appendage.
But how can they get the public to go along with this?
It's simple, really: by claiming they're fighting crime. They'll do the barcodes in exactly the same way they fight possession of cash today: by linking non-comformers with criminals. Even today, the government claims that only drug dealers (and other criminals) deal in large amounts of cash. Tomorrow, the claim will be: "Only drug dealers would refuse the personal ID code."
Or they'll attack "dead-beat dads," claiming that a national human barcode system would prevent irresponsible fathers from abandoning their helpless children. The emotional appeal will be unstoppable, and emotionally-reacting people all over the country will support the human branding measure.
They'll also engineer a play on words to make it sound safe: instead of calling it a "bar code," they'll use pretty-sounding words like, "A personal safety badge" or some other nice-sounding term. The public, gullible as ever, will buy into it. As we've seen with Y2K propaganda, all that's necessary to convince the public of anything is coordinated repetition of the desired message.
The Bible scholars out there already know the meaning of all this: it can only be called the Mark of the Beast. Now, as Y2K Newswire members know, we don't dwell on Biblical prophecy. It's not even the focus of our Y2K research. But this Biblical prediction is so eerily accurate that we have to mention it:
Revelation 13:16-17: "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads. And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, of the number of his name."
This, of course, from a document written long before a time when barcodes were even conceived.
Could all this just be coincidence? Maybe so. Maybe there's nothing Biblical to this at all. But even if you take that stance, isn't the patent-approved status of human barcoding technology scary enough by itself?
On the weekend of October 23 & 24th, 1999 Loretta Aps and Susan Bulger came to Ottawa to meet with a lawyer to discuss possibilities of launching a lawsuit re: what the "controversy" with David Icke during the first week of October, 1999 when he was unfairly harassed and repeatedly slandered by individuals, groups and the media.
An experienced lawyer who works from his home near Ottawa, Ontario is prepared to craft and launch a lawsuit against all of the parties who interfered with David Icke's Ontario '99 Tour to Ottawa, Toronto and Windsor. This will implicate the Canadian Jewish Congress, the Green Party of Ontario, De La Salle High School, Hull City Hall, Windsor Casino and the Cleary Centre as well as all of the print media (newspapers) which slandered and libelled David Icke. This action becomes a universal case to free all of us from oppression by the Powerful Financial Elite. This lawyer has assessed the possibilities of winning this lawsuit and he is excited about the probability of winning BUT he must carefully craft it so that it gets before a "jury of peers" and not just in front of a judge.
We have up until November 8th, 1999 to put in a claim. We must be aware that the opponents may enter a counter claim stating that the initial claim is frivolous and that the plaintiffs do not have sufficient funds etc. Therefore, we need to solicit some financial commitments immediately. Loretta Aps, co-owner of Sumari Seminars from Toronto is soliciting funds from supporters in the Toronto area. She has asked me to email Ottawa area contacts and request a response from those who are willing to make a financial committment of whatever they can contribute. If each supporter committed to contributing even $100 we would at least be able to initiate the lawsuit.
It has been suggested that we should be prepared for many motions to be submitted to the court by the opponents and therefore we need to be able to withstand their barrage financially. We may need $50,000 or more if they stage a strong opposition BUT on the other hand they may not want the information that would come out to go public so they may not put up a strong opposition.
Loretta feels that anyone who commits finances to the lawsuit will get all of their money back plus a bonus - when we win the court case. This could be a significant lawsuit and very timely indeed. It would implicate the Power Elite like Conrad Black, the Minister of Immigration, Bernie Farber, the Green Party of Ontario Leader etc. David Icke sees the court case as one that would be significant BUT he does not want to detract from his current mission of spreading the information and he is wondering about the possible costs.
Another mediator has suggested that we simply seek a "Letter of Apology" from those who have slandered David Icke with written commitment that they will not harass David at any time in the future when he returns to Canada.
If you can commit a financial contribution to this universal cause please forward an email to: tom@... or telephone 1.613.746.9702
If you feel that we ought to go the route of seeking a "Letter of Apology" from those who have slandered David then please express that thought to the email address listed above.
PS: Readers are invited to read the four articles about the "controversy" during David Icke's Ontario '99 Tour from October 1st until October 11th, 1999 at this URL: http://www.cyberclass.net/icke.htm
On Friday, Oct 15 1999, at 10:30 AM at the Sherwood Park courthouse in the province of Alberta, Provincial Court Judge Maher was presiding over a hearing involving a man who had been charged with failing to comply with a demand to file an income tax return. Contrary to previous erroneous reports that he was charged with tax evasion, the accused was not charged with any counts of tax evasion.
During this and a previous court appearance, Judge Maher knowingly and willfully attempted to force the accused, who was unrepresented, to enter a plea to the charges before him without ever having been provided a copy of the charges against him, nor a copy of any other particulars. This was a direct violation of the accused's rights in this matter and contrary to several decisions of the SCC, in which the Court has emphatically stated that no plea is to be entered until all particulars have been provided.
As a result of this and other comments by the judge, it was our position that this judge was either:
a) incompetent and ignorant of the law which has been settled for years, or,
b) he had absolutely no respect for the rights and freedoms of the people appearing before him.
In either scenario, we felt a reasonable apprehension of bias and prejudice and therefore requested that the judge recuse himself from this case, which he refused to do, yelling at us that this was "my courtroom". This is typical of the attitude exhibited by many judges, especially those in Provincial Court. We then informed Judge Maher that this court belongs to the people, not to him.
After setting an adjournment date, Timothy Wishewan then placed the judge under citizen’s arrest. Immediately the judge began shaking so badly that he could not hold his own glass of water, knowing full well what he had done to us. As a result, he immediately left the courtroom.
Several criminal charges have now been laid against Judge Maher as well against numerous RCMP officers.
In an unprecedented action, Judge Maher has been charged with criminal contempt of court under common law. To my knowledge, this is the first time that a private individual has charged a judge in this manner. We have dozens of witnesses to testify as to what transpired in court that day as well we have requested a copy of the transcripts from the hearing.
Constable Dennis, who watched the proceedings, refused to comply with his lawful duties as a peace officer, to take Judge Maher into custody. Because of Constable Dennis' refusal to obey the law, approximately 3O plus people then began to leave the courtroom and go to the RCMP headquarters to lay complaints against the judge.
There were at least 3 or 4 police cars surrounding the courthouse, one of whom, driving erratically, cut off one of these people as they unlawfully pulled over Mr. Warwick and myself. Mr. Warwick was subsequently charged with driving under suspension for non-payment of fines, even though he had never been notified of such and has now filed an affidavit to this effect.
During this incident, Constable Dennis assaulted me and unlawfully placed me under arrest for my refusal to provide him with the keys to the car. I refused to give him the keys because we had numerous legal and confidential documents in the car, which I did not want the police to see, and they had no authority to see. Further, Constable Dennis did not need the keys in order to have the car towed, an action which we consider to be unlawful and amounting to theft.
As a result of this assault against me and another assault against me while in custody, including being threatened by Constable Dennis with being pepper sprayed and theft of my money, several charges have been laid against this officer.
Even though the RCMP have admitted that I personally was not involved in any incident in the courthouse, they unlawfully used extortion tactics on me on Friday afternoon. Detective Wilkinson threatened to hold me in custody, contrary to section 497 of the Criminal Code unless I signed an Undertaking agreeing not to go to any Provincial Court, unless on personal matters or directed by a judge.
This tactic was used unsuccessfully to try and ban me from the courthouses of Alberta in order to prevent me from exposing corruption and criminal activity by Revenue Canada, the police, our governments and the judiciary. Detective Wilkinson has admitted to me that I was not involved in anything at the courthouse in any manner but that they were trying to ban me because of actions taken by "my friends" in the courthouse at that time. The government has taken the incredible approach of trying to ban anyone who is exposing their corruption from the places where they commit this corruption.
Well, I am going to disappoint the RCMP and Detective Wilkinson, Revenue Canada and all others in this corrupt "Just-us" system. I have already been directed to appear on Mr. Main's behalf on Nov.17, 1999 and will appear on that date as required by law. Further, attempting to stop me from going into the courthouse will not stop the 40-50 people who are planning to be in attendance and I will file further criminal charges against the RCMP for obstruction of justice if they attempt to prevent me from attending court.
The charge of contempt of court against Judge Maher will now send a strong and clear message to every judge in Alberta, and indeed all of Canada, that the people will no longer put up with unlawful actions from the judiciary which deny us our fundamental rights and freedoms. The judiciary are the guardians of these rights and freedoms and any judge who aids and abets in the denial of them will be criminally charged.
It is also our concern, especially in light of other actions taken recently by the RCMP across Canada, that they are now trying to control the media in this province. It has come to our attention that an officer of the RCMP in the Sherwood Park Detachment had also instructed A-Channel Television News not to broadcast any video footage from this incident. The RCMP have no jurisdiction in controlling the media and ordering a supposed free and independent press not to show the public the truth. Such tactics clearly are not permissible in this country.
Lastly, I have written a strong letter of complaint to Chief Judge Wachowich demanding that Judge Maher be removed from this case, and indeed from the bench. Although we will be appearing on November 17, we will not be proceeding with the issue before the court if Judge Maher is in attendance. A motion has been filed in Queen's Bench to quash the unlawful Undertaking and a complaint has been filed with the RCMP over the actions of Judge Maher. It is our position that this matter be moved into Edmonton Law Courts before a judge who will provide us with a fair and impartial hearing and who knows the law and will keep it well.
For more information please contact:
Dave Lindsay at (204) 589-4764 or Verne Warwick at (780) 459-8866
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NEW YORK (APBnews.com) -- An online group of activists is hoping to crash a network of supersecret spy satellites and computer systems that are supposedly able to eavesdrop on every telephone, fax and e-mail communication in the world.
The cyber-effort is tied to members of a mailing list called "Hacktivists," who are urging fellow Netizens to include in their e-mails on Oct. 21 a list of subversive-type keywords that will catch the attention of the spy network,code-named Echelon. The effort is an attempt to make the public aware of the spy network, which has received little scrutiny and debate in the United States.
The network is purported to be able to read all e-mail, other online traffic and telephone conversations around the world in an effort to find potential terrorist or enemy communications. The right keywords trigger the network to record the conversation or e-mail.
The existence of the global surveillance network has raised concerns among privacy rights advocates, who say that if the capabilities of the system can do what has been reported, then it's a major breach of domestic security and privacy.
'Very intrusive ... ultimately oppressive'
Echelon was established under what is known as the "UKUSA Agreement" following World War II and includes the security agencies of the United States,Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
"We, the monitored, have decided to stand up against the very real, very intrusive and ultimately oppressive global surveillance system known as Echelon," the group said in a statement. "Echelon is a vast mainframe set up by the New World Disorder in order to monitor the world's electronic communications for subversive keywords."
The statement continues: "Every time you send someone an e-mail with keywords like "revolution" and "hacktivism" [for instance], Echelon's computers make a note of it. If you forward e-mails regularly with words on Echelon's extensive keyword list, you may be marked for human "hands-on" monitoring.
In order to overload the surveillance system, the group wants keywords such as FBI, CIA, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Militia and Davidian, among others, pasted into e-mail messages.
"There isn't even any need to write a cohesive paragraph or sentence. Echelon's computers do not understand the language anyway. It only knows to look for certain words. By doing this we can at least temporarily jam the global surveillance system," the group says.
Planned to precede brutality day
The attempted takedown of Echelon strategically falls one day before a planned "Stop Police Brutality Day," according to the group.
"Now is a chance for anyone, regardless of computer expertise, to become an instant hacktivist. Best of all, no software is needed [other than your regular e-mail program]," the group says.
The existence of Echelon has always been denied or sidestepped by the United States and the foreign governments involved in the project. However, the National Security Agency (NSA) is rumored to have a major hand in the project. The spy network has been debated and written about in Europe and the Free Congress Foundation, a Washington-based conservative group that produced a report in an effort to push Congress to hold hearings.
A detailed report on Echelon was released in January 1998 to the European Parliament's Science and Technology Options Assessment Panel. The report, Interception Capabilities 2000, details the existence of the international spy satellite system and how it's to be used in digital communications.
Web sites talking about attack
Duncan Campbell, a British investigative reporter, wrote the report from information from a source that works at Menwith Hill in northern England, the NSA's main monitoring station for communications activities.
Interception Capabilities 2000 was compiled at the request of the European Parliament over concerns the United States has been accessing information about European industries and governments.
The planned Oct. 21 jamming event is the talk of a number of Web sites and Usenet newsgroups, such as alt.privacy, alt.discordia and alt.cyberpunk, among others.
The editor of the Hacker News Network said the spy network is probably more sophisticated than people realize and that trying to jam the system with a bunch of keywords may not work.
"Considering that this has been done in secret, probably at a cost of a few billion bucks, and is spread over three continents, I think simple keyword searching is the least of the system's abilities," said the editor, who goes under the handle Internet Space Rogue.
No one will know success or failure
And anyway, if the jamming does work, how will anyone know?
"There will be no way to gauge success or failure. I seriously doubt the government is going to hold a press conference about their supersecret spy network and say that it was brought to its knees by a grass-roots effort," he said.
He said the best that can happen is a greater public awareness that the spy network exists.
Robert Kemp, a member of the Hacktivist mailing list, said the idea to jam the network has been debated for years and that the "soil was particularly fertile" at this time to make the attempt.
Whether the maneuver will work remains to be seen.
"In the hacking community, you can never tell what news of far off will arrive, but there is a good chance that if Echelon's computers wind up blowing up under the strain, we would never hear about it," Kemp said.
David Noack is an APBnews.com staff writer (david.noack@...).
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Millions of Canadians (and Americans or otherwise) rely on the establishment media for their daily news, editorial, and information. Yet, few are aware that the media monolith (newspapers, magazines, radio, and television) is in the hands of a tiny elite monoploy. David Icke is raising key questions such as: "Do the establishment media directly or indirectly control both the "masses" and the "politicians" to promote and further their own selected, selfish interests?"
If such control is possible, then it is necessary to question the answers to the questions that David Icke has been raising in his books, in his videos, and on his current world tour to promote his book "The Biggest Secret." Further research in this area is very relevant now, considering what has been happening to David Icke on this current Ontario '99 Tour when he asks questions such as: "Who are these men and/or women who head the few remaining media corporations and to whom are they beholden?" Others ask related questions such as: "Who are these men and/or women who are so very well skilled in their mission of unfairly labelling and harassing David Icke and to whom are they beholden?"
The current "David Icke Controversy" illustrates the problem. Whereas David Icke committed no more of an offense than to express in his live presentations some "unpopular" opinions that are written and documented in his newest book, "The Biggest Secret" and in his video presentation called "Freedom Road" he has been subjected to ongoing harassment by "Customs and Immigration authorities" and character defamation by "uninformed" individuals and "powerful lobby" groups. A little background may be helpful to put David's situation into perspective.
Back in 1988, National Revenue Minister, Government of Canada, Elmer McKay announced "New Hate Propaganda Guidelines" which in reality were the precursor to making "free discussion, debate, and free expression of unpopular ideas and/or opinions" a criminal offense in Canada in the 1990's and beyond. Unbelievable !! Strange also that the establishement media with their supposedly vested interest in "freedom of speech and freedom of expression" never protested vigourously against these "ploice state" New Hate Propaganda Guidelines."
I am also reminded of the "Zundel Trial and Retrial" and the "David Irving Controversy" back in the 1980's. Canadians did not seem to mind back in 1985 that Ernst Zundel was attacked and labelled a "racist" by the same opponents that have been hasseling David Icke. Sabina Citron from The Canadian Holocaust Remembrance Association complained that Ernst Zundel was breaking the law. A lengthy trial ensued in 1985 and the Government of Ontario immediately ordered a "Retrial" after the Ontario Court of Appeal quashed the original conviction. This was all about a little booklet entitled "Did Six Million Reall Die?" The booklet was written by British author, Richard Harwood and re-printed by Ernst Zundel in 1981 and delivered or mailed to a few Canadians - who by the way were under no obligation to read it.
I recall the day the "Zundel Retrial" commenced in Toronto, (January 18,1988). Scott Honeyman, Managing Editor of the Ottawa Citizen wrote: "We won't spend a lot of newsprint covering evidence and arguments that are merely repeated from the last trial." This statement indicated that the formerly noisy media monopoly whose power is inestimable and whose "hidden agenda" was questionable at that time intended to "manage" the "Zundel Retrial." In hindsight, I ask WHY?? There was a time when media personalities relished free and open debate before reaching a verdict. What happened in 1988 was the beginning of a new approach whereby the media overtly exercised their power to curb the free flow of information at 361 University Avenue in downtown Toronto where important historical issues were being argued by the prosecution and the defense.
I also recall in March of 1989 when the renowned British historian, David Irving was touring Canada. David Irving was falsely labelled a "Nazi sympathizer" and a "crypto-fascist" by Ottawa Citizen reporter, Robert Sibley on March 7th, 1989. David Irving, a meticulous historical researcher was simply offering information about controversial views of history. During his Canadian Tour inquisitive citizens were intimidated by ignorant accusers who sought to censor and manage history, ignore historical facts and details, and to supress any opposing points of view. Like David Icke, David Irving did not impose his views on anyone. Both speakers are emphatic about listening to new information and then setting out to do your own research to find out what rings as "truth" for you.
Few Canadians knew that David Irving had been converted to a different point of view after reading "The Leutchter Report" which was presented as evidence in the first Zundel Trial. Nor did many Canadians know that David Irving was the twenty-third and last defense witness to testify at the Zundel Retrial in April 1988 since most of the mainstream print and electronic media had imposed self-censorship on any news coverage of that Zundel Retrial.
Ironically, those who mistakenly labelled David Irving as a "racist" during his 1989 Canadian Tour only alerted more Canadians to research and review "alternative history" resulting in increased attention to David Irving's books which offered his opinions developed from orginal source materail - dairies, letters, documents and archival material.
I wrote the following words in a Letter To The Editor, The Ottawa Citizen, March 20, 1989, page A9:
"A bomb threat (the first ever) against David Irving at the Chateau Laurier Hotel, a raucous protest against his lecture and a forced cancellation at Carleton University summons free thinkers to study "alternative history."
It is interesting that ten years later another renowned British author, David Icke is summoning more "free thinkers" to awaken because he is being similarily tagged with "false" labels by the some of the same accusers who harassed Ernst Zundel and David Irving. The ongoing, sometimes successful attempts to supress seminars and/or lectures by renowned world authors indicates that "free thinking" man of the late 20th Century has a grave obligation with regard to comparing the popular and traditional and "politically correct" information which is stated in high shcool and university textbooks to the "alternative information" being offered by current researchers in their recently published works.
We can no longer afford to measure "truth" by the popular opinion of the media who have been hoodwinking the public throughout this 20th Century. The majority of people have only been exposed to the "censored" but "authorized" textbooks which simply print "the blanket of the truth" to maintain and manage the social, economic and political nature of the established order. We are now awakening to the awareness that history has been carefully "managed" with a concerted effort to discredit, reject and eradicate any person who advocates any unpopular, "alternative" versions of history - whether it be regarding politcis, economics, religion, medicine, energy or any other topic.
Many of the modern, self-styled reporters who are indebted to their media masters have learned their lessons very well. They use language (language is not neutral) that implies that David Icke is guilty of "hate crimes" even before any evidence has been gathered by the "Hate Police." Proof of this issue of language is offered by Laura Bobak on page 8 of The Toronto Sun, October 6, 1999 when she writes a very brief article entitled: "U of T Allows Hate Speaker." The fact is that only a very small minority of Canadians (less than 1%) would have any knowledge of who David Icke is and what he writes and talks about. So before the public have an opportunity to make their own decision, Laura Bobak, who didn't even interview David Icke forms an opinion and labels him a "hate speaker" and the public (there are some exceptions) believe her "lies."
The imposition of self-censorship by the medai masters on the news coverage (or lack thereof) of the current "David Icke Controversy" has a very important bearing on the critical issue of "freedom of speech." As I have explained from the examples above, in Canada, just as in other countries of the world, the news is becoming carefully "managed." The silent power(s) behind the media - which have been generally unidentified until the release of David Icke's newest book "The Biggest Secret" are brutally capable of printing "lies, deceit and deception" as they decide where and when (and whether) to report their carefully managed news stories. It is worthy of note here that with the exception of a carefully crafted news item in the National Post which focused on the "protest" against David Icke there was no other significant news story about the very successful seminar that David presented to approximately 450 people in the Hart house at the University of Toronto.
There is an alternative media rising up in Canada (and elsewhere) which dares to provide opportunities for fellow-Canadians (and others) to read about "news and information" dismised as "NOT NEWSWORTHY" by the establishment media. Canadians (and others) who cherish "truth, freedom, and justice" are encouraged to read these alternative newspaers and/or magazines as well as the various e-zines and/or mailing lists on the internet. Those growing numbers of Canadians (or otherwise) who will no longer tolerate censorship and/or intentional misinformation and/or management of the news nor the denial of freedom of expression as ordinary and acceptable are encouraged to share the names of "alternative resources" for exchange within our growing networks.
Please forward your "alternative resources" suggestions to: tom@... and I will update the list as it grows. I will begin identifying the alternative media resources - in fact if you forward an email or call or fax me I can forward a sample copy of the following publications OR I can tell you where to get them.
1. Discourse and Disclosure - a bi-monthly newspaper published by Sue Potvin, Osgoode, Ontario
2. The Kealey Paper - a tabloid-style newspaper published periodically by Glen Kealey, Canadian Institute for Political Integrity
3. Democracy Today, a monthly newspaper published by Norm Racine, Spruce Grove, Alberta
4. Tone Magazine, a monthly magazine published by Michael Monner, Ottawa, Ontario
4. thecyberclassnetwork@egroups.com , a mailing list host by Tom J. Kennedy on the internet where you can read current and archived articles and learn "what you didn't know you didn't know"
5. icke_e-magazine@eGroups.com , a mailing list hosted by David Icke on the internet where you can read current and archived artciles to keep updated on what is happening with David as he continues his World Tour '99.
6. www.sightings.com , Jeff Rense's website where you can read much information and listen to his daily talk radio show from 10 PM (EST) until 1 AM (EST).
Readers are invited to check out David Icke's website at this URL: http://www.davidicke.com Read the press release composed by a lawyer wherein he states that according to the Immigration Act "speakers are exempt from having to have a work permit"...So .. the obvious question is "Why were they compelling David Icke to get a work permit for the Windsor seminar when they knew it would not be possible to do so given the short time before the event. The Windsor event finally had to be cancelled when the city-owned Cleary Centre, broke their contract with less than 24 hours notice before the event.
Sergio Grando, General Manager of the Cleary Centre explained they have received PRESS cuttings (from Conrad Black newspaperso) saying David Icke is "anti-semitic." Even though the Canadian Hate Police Unit has given up on trying to accuse David of "anti-semitism" when a Conrad Black newspaper says it is so - then of course it must be so ... (LOL) Sergio Grando was also using also using another excuse - that David would not be allowed to speak at the Cleary Centre because he is linking the Queen of England to a reptilian bloodline.
While you are visiting David Icke's homepage take time to read the recently posted articles. David has posted an article about his experiences during this past week. It is titled: "Illuminati Onslaught Against David Icke In Canada." Also very noteworthy is the article titled: "Mind Controlled Killers"by Brian Desborough. And the "Secret of Shapeshifting and the Reptilian Control" article about how the ruling elite use mono-atomic gold is worthy of reading. David and Brian Desborough identify this mono-atomic gold as one of the big secrets held within the Mystery Schools and relate how it is likely passed on into the top levels of the modern secret society networks. Keep in mind that David Icke does not seek to impose what he is learning as he follows information. What he does ask people to do is to read and/or view the information on video or in live presentations and then do your own research to find if it rings as "truth" for you.
If any readers have ideas and/or information about how we can get David Icke access to "satellite broadcasting" please forward an email to: tom@... By arranging for David Icke to make his presentations via "satellite broadcasting" we can solve this recurring problem of David getting harrassed by Customs and Immigration authorities and he could be reaching millions of people instead of a few hundred in each live presentation. Frankly, I believe that the timing is right for David Icke to network his information far and wide as quickly as possible. During the past week, those of us who were assisting David in his current trials talked with him about the possibility of using "satellite broadcasting" to further his work.
If anyone from reading this message knows the CEO and or other executives within the PrePaid Legal Services network marketing opportunity please communicate with me. It is my understanding that PrePaid Legal Services bought the "satellite broadcasting" operation from The People's Network. If this is true, then at least we ought to approach them and talk about the possibility of negotiating an arrangement for David Icke' s information seminars to be broadcast within their infrastrucutre.
In the meantime, Jeff Rense, the best radio talk show host on the internet (in my humble opinion) is providing David an opportunity to be on his radio talk show this week. Jeff Rense posts his weekly schedule of guests one week in advance. On Thursday, October 14th at 10 PM (EST) David Icke will be Jeff's guest. Credo Mutwa, from South Africa will join them for part of the evening also. On Friday, October 15th Jordan Maxwell will be a guest on Jeff's radio talk show.
THU 10-14 David Icke: NWO, Reptilians And World On The Edge LIVE from South Africa: Surprise Guest (Credo Mutwa)
On Friday, October 15th Jordan Maxwell will be a guest on Jeff's radio talk show. Jordan Maxwell's guest appearance right after David Icke is noteworthy since Jordan's video entitled "The Naked Truth" reviews the history of world religions and offers conclusions similar to those David Icke spoke about during his recent Ontario Tour. I have recently viewed The Naked Truth video. I highly recommend it. Anyone wishing a copy please contact The Cyberclass Network.
FRI 10-15 LIVE from South Africa: Jan Lamprecht: Hollow Planets Jordan Maxwell: End Times And The Occult
You can listen to Jeff Rense's Live Real Audio Broadcasts & Archives at this URL: http://www.sightings.com
For those who may not be aware here is another tidbit of information. Art Bell has had David Icke on his radio talk show in previous years. BUT in March of 1999 Art Bell declined to have David Icke on his radio talk show to promote his new book "The Biggest Secret." Could it be that David is getting too close to the "truth?" It has been suggested by some researchers that Art Bell is a "schill" for those who are promoting the New World Order agenda. One wonders???
WHAT TO DO NOW !!!
Loretta and Susan of Sumari Seminars, the promotion and seminar company engaged to promote David Icke's Fall of '99 Ontario Tour for his book "The Biggest Secret" are suggesting that everyone phone, fax and/or email Eleanor Caplan, the Federal Minister of Immigration to demonstrate a show of support for "freedom of speech" in Canada. Without a doubt, the time has come to take a stand and be counted as "freedom advocates." Ask questions about who gave the orders to harass David Icke and why??? If anyone has the fax and phone numbers of the federal MP's please forward it to me so I can post it at my website. Likewise, if anyone knows where to find the email addresses of the federal MP's please share that information so I can add that to my website also.
Anyone who does take the time to write and forward a communication to uphold "freedom of speech" in Canada is invited to send a copy to The Cyberclass Network for posting so that it may trigger ideas for others.
Since Fred Kyburz has more than ten years experience of being an advocate for "freedom" I have attached his Weekly Info Page, Issue 58, week of October 3rd, 1999. Fred's words of wisdom will give readers some very good background about why it is in our best interests to take action to preserve "freedom" rather than ignoring what happened to David Icke during this past week. Should any readers wish to subscribe to Fred's regular "Info Pages" simply visit his webpage or email him directly. His contact information is posted below the Weekly Info Page.
Note: Only people having requested the Weekly Info Page will receive it. We do not send outunsolicited mail.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
- by Edmund Burke
I have mentioned a number of times in my posts and Newsletters that we are in our present situation BECAUSE of our own greed, selfishness and fear. A number of people got fairly upset at me for saying and repeating this. People object for being labeled 'selfish', or 'greedy', or 'fearful'. Yet they do not prove with their actions that greed and selfishness and fear is not part of their make-up or character.
I do not want to point fingers at anybody. That's not my intent. Improvements are not gained by simply pointing fingers and discussing someone's negative traits. My intent is to make people aware of the problem or the faculties which bind us and prevent us from re-gaining and preserving our rights and freedoms in order to be able to rectify the situation. There is always a cause for loosing God-given rights and freedoms. A dictator does not appear without reason or cause. And, the dictator is not, and cannot bring about, a cause himself. It is ALWAYS the people which bring about the right conditions for a dictator to be able to enslave them.
I started ten years ago to make people aware of our situation. I talked about it. I held meetings. And I gave the example of what had to be done in order to prevent the looming disaster of world slavery. How many people have listened? How many people have had the courage to follow in my footsteps? How many people made freedom for themselves and their country their priority?
I am sad to say that it is a very few people, a mere handful, who value freedom and independence more than government control and the conceived believe of government provided security - even though we complain all day about government interference and heavy-handedness by government departments against citizens. We complain about corruption in courts and the police. We complain about atrocities committed by governments against their own citizens. Yet we are not willing to help to get government off our backs. We are not willing as long as we are not mistreated ourselves by government. As soon as we are mistreated we holler and scream for someone to help us. Then we experience that nobody is around just as we were not around when someone else called out for help.
Greed and selfishness prevented us from helping someone else. Greed and selfishness is preventing someone else from helping us. Fear is fueled by greed and selfishness. So the three go together. A people controlled by greed, selfishness and fear will NEVER be able to attain freedom. It is utterly impossible. Greedy and selfish people will always violate the cornerstone of common law - DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WANT OTHERS DO UNTO YOU. Unless we live according to the rules of common law we will never be able to enjoy the gifts and freedoms offered by common law. We simply cannot have the cake and eat it too. Greed and selfishness always strive for finding a way of eating that cake and at the same time, having it also.
If you are not willing to give YOUR ALL to help your country gain freedom YOU will not be able to enjoy freedom in the future either. Unless you spend your free time getting this message out and recruiting other people in your community you neglect doing your duty as a citizen of this country.
The dictator does not come on his own. WE invite him in because our own greed and selfishness fool us into believing that he will bring us security and he will preserve our standard of living. We believe that he will look after us when we are sick. We believe that he will support us in our old age. If we would not be blinded by greed and selfishness we would realize that he is right now on a rampage of murder and destruction. But it has not visibly affected us, that is to say we have not understood the effects, so we do not care.
Folks, if you desire to be free YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE. There is not much time left to pay the price. Payment will not much longer be accepted. So take heed and get going. When you smell the bitter taste of tyranny the price of freedom will seem very cheap compared to the pain you will suffer as a result of greed and selfishness which prevented you from doing your duty as a citizen.
Hurry and take part in our program. This might sound like a sales pitch. I can tell you that this sales pitch does not bring me any material enrichments. It brings me more work (of which I have more than enough) and less sleep (which I am lacking already). It prevents me from making a good living for myself (which I have sacrificed for the past ten years). This sales pitch is made out of concern for yourself and your family and out of concern for our country. Will you have as much concern for your own family as I have??? Your actions will speak louder than your words - they will be the final proof.
I will continue this coming week with the DIPs. Because I was away from home most of this week again it was impossible for me to write them.
David Icke was detained at the Ottawa International Airport for three hours on the evening of October 1,1999. His plane arrived at 11:04 PM and he was not released until 2:00 AM on October 2nd. I went to the airport to drive him to his hotel room. I waited until the people stopped coming out of the Customs and Immigration door. Then I asked a Customs and Immigration official if there were any people still detained at Customs. He answered "No." So, I went back to my home. At 1:00 AM David Icke called and asked those of us who were waiting for him to come back to the airport for a consultation because he was being detained. The person who told me that no one was being detained at Immigration either did not know that he was there he preferred to feign ignorance of what was happening.
His complete luggage and his laptop computer were searched. Apparently, Customs officials were searching for "hate material." Not finding any "hate material" Immigration officials then decided to harass him because he did not have a "validation" certificate nor a "work permit." The Immigration authorities stated to myself and others in attendance that David would be committing a crime and would be arrested and charged if he were to collect any monies while here in Canada without a working permit or validation number. However, they agreed this issue would be solved if he were paid no monies at all and that included expenses.
Since the Immigration officials were working well beyond their working hours they agreed to permit David Icke temporary entry to Canada. A final decision was deferred until October 2nd, 1999. David Icke was instructed to return to the Customs and Immigration Department at the Ottawa International Airport at 1:30 PM on, Saturday, October 2nd with his baggage.
Early in the morning of October 2nd, 1999 a new agreement was written up between David Icke and Sumari Seminars stating that David will reimburse Sumari Seminars for any expenses paid out on his behalf to that date. This new agreement clearly stated that David would be doing all of the semiars for FREE and paying his own expenses. At the meeting on Saturday, October 1st, 1999 Customs officials were given copies of the original and new agreement. Many people from the seminar showed up at the Customs and Immigration office at the Ottawa International Airport at 1:30 PM on Saturday to support David's right to be in Canada and to speak at public meetings while he is visiting in Canada. This strong showing of support does make a difference when we are fighting to preserve our "freedoms" here in Canada.David was interrogated until 4:00 PM at which time he was again released to continue his seminar at Hull, Quebec. Even though over three hours has elapsed from the time David interrupted his seminar everyone was there again when he started again at approximately 4:30 PM. David talked until after 7:30 Pm on that Saturday evening.
We assumed that this new "legal" contract would solve the problem as outlined by Immigration Canada. We were wrong.....Unfortunately, we were not told by Immigration officials in Ottawa that this new agreement would not be honoured by their cohorts in Toronto. We had also spoken with legal counsel who had likewise informed us that under these conditions both David and Sumari Seminars were complying with the Immigration Act.
Other examples of continuing harrassment occurred in Toronto. First of all, there was much pressure put on the University of Toronto to cancel David Icke's seminar. This opposition was organized by The Green Party in collusion with B'Nai Brith and CJC (Canadian Jewish Congress). When the University refused to cancel the contract a small group of demonstrators was organized to gather outside of the Hart House at the University of Toronto to heckle the people who were entering the hall to hear David's presentation. It was interesting to note that when a woman asked one of the youths why he was protesting he did not have an answer. Could he have been following the "herd?" Just wondering??
After finishing his sold out seminar at the Hart House, University of Toronto at 11:15 PM David along with the Sumari Seminar staff was summoned to a back room by two Immigration officials who has been in attendance at the evening seminar. Speculation is that they were planning to "arrest" him at the beginning of the seminar but they wisely chose not to raise the wrath of the 450 people in the audience who would have objected to any action of arresting David Icke.
Both David Icke and the staff of Sumari Seminars were threatened "arrest." After some brief negotiations David was counseled to appear at the Immigration office at 6900 Airport Rd. at 10:00 AM the following morning, Thursday, October 7, 1999. At that time, David was again advised that he would be arrested if he chose to present his seminar in Windsor on Saturday, October 10th, 1999. Currently, David is seeking legal counsel on what amd how to proceed with this saga.
Also noteworthy is the fact that the location of his presentation in the Ottawa area had to be changed three times. De La Salle High School and Hull City Hall both broke their contracts with the organizers of the David Icke presentation because of pressure from groups and/or individuals who have been trying to defame David Icke by calling him "author of hate literature", "nazi" and "anti-semetic." Though none of these terms are true of David Icke, people are still driven by fear and misinformation. Misguided officials at De La Salle High School and Hull City Hall allowed certain groups and/or individuals to instill sufficient "fear" by spreading "lies" and falsehood" that they broke their respective contracts. Neither would allow David Icke to speak at their respective locations. Currently, David Icke and Sumari Seminars are considering legal action against both De La Salle High School and Hull City Hall for breaking their respective contracts. Bravo to College de l'Outaouais, Hull, Quebec which did not "buckle" under such "lies" and "falsehoods."
By the way, the Grey Nuns at the Bronson Centre in Ottawa, Ontario raised questions of "concern" about David Icke's views on religion when I approched the Bronson Centre in mid-July, 1999 about booking David Icke to speak there. They asked who was speaking and what was he going to talk about. I simply advised them to visit David's website at this URL: http://www.davidicke.com . They responded by raising a "red flag" and asked a series of questions about his views on religion. On that note, I decided to seek another location for David to speak. It was then that Kemptville College was booked. Contrary to misinformation in various forms of the media, Kemptville College never broke their contract. It was Sumari Seminars which terminated that contract simply because too many people from Ottawa were complaining about the 40 minute drive from downtown Ottawa.
Those in attendance with David for at least part of the interrogations at both Ottawa and Toronto carefully observed the actions and energy of the Customs and Immigration officials. It was interesting to note that while the Customs and Immigration officials were complelled by law to process David Icke many of them were baffled as to why David was being put through this harassment at this time since he has already been coming to Canada on a regular basis since the mid-1990's. On various occasions, a complete change of energy was observed by those in attendance. David, himself noted such an energy shift when the Customs and Immigration officials were completing their interrogations. He commented that they could see no reason for labelling his research as "anti-Semetic" and therefore they were wondering out loud why David Icke was being harassed in this manner. These Customs and Immigration officials explained that they had to follow the law or their job would be in jeopardy. It was amazing to observe David's positive attitude coupled with an absence of "fear" throughout the whole process. Observing the whole process unfold convinced that "love" is a much more powerful emotion that "fear."
What could be so "dangerous" that misguided individuals and groups not only try to block him from speaking but also consider the gravity of ordering our federal civil servants to harass David and deter him from speaking in Canada by imposing restrictions on where and to whom he can speak? Do we really have a land which we mistakenly believe to be a "land of freedom" where we are supposedly granted the right of "freedom of speech?" Furthermore, what about our rights as Canadian citizens to listen to whomever we choose?
Public money extracted from Canadian taxpayers has been used to pay for the Customs and Immigration staff who have been directed to harass David Icke during this past week. Taxpayers have an inalienable right to be fully and honestly informed by radio, television and the print media on a daily basis of both sides of the David Icke "controversy" which has been carefully manufactured by self-appointed individuals and pressure groups. As of this date only one side - those who seek to defame him - have been given fair media exposure.
Citizens who are dedicated to preserving and enhancing "freedom of speech" must not stand by and allow pressure groups to betray the cherished tradition of expecting the media to report "uncensored news" to the court which has the ultimate and greatest power in the country - The Court of Public Review.
Individuals committed to "freedom of speech" rather than "freedom of acceptable speech" must probe to find out who is wielding the power to cause the so-called, competitive media to collectively supress the David Icke side of this ongoing "news story." Such crafted censorship jeopardizes "free discussion, debate, and expression" for every single Canadian and The Court of Public Review is denied the evidence it needs to reach a fair verdict.
Abraham Lincoln was fully aware that it was in The Court of Public Review that truth inevitably overcomes falsehood for he warned: "Let the people know the truth, and the country is safe."
It would certainly be instructive to know the "hidden agenda" of those groups who sought to ban David icke from speaking in Canada. Likewise, it would be interesting to hear the mainstream media comment on their collective decision to dismiss the "David Icke side" of this ongoing controversy as "NOT NEWSWORTHY."
The Cyberclass Network (TCN) offers hosts interactive TCN "cell" workshops. These "cell" workshops are designed to inform people and to encourage them to serve others by networking the information through whatever means is available to them. Contact information: Tel: 613.746.9702 Fax: 613.747.6666 Email: tom@... Website: http://www.cyberclass.net
The Cyberclass Network has a variety of David Icke's books and video tapes available for sale by mail order. Each listed price includes postage and handling: Readers can order any of these items by forwarding cash or a money order or a cheque to: The Cyberclass Network, P.O. Box 9333, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1G 3V1 (Note - any cheque must clear before the order will be sent.)
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And The Truth Shall Set You Free
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I Am Me, I Am Free
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The Biggest Secret
$30.00 (US Funds) OR $42.00 (Canadian Funds)
Freedom Road (3 video pack)
$65.00 (US Funds) OR $90.00 (Canadian Funds)
Revelations of a Mother Goddess (Video of interview with Arizona Wilder)
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It is noteworthy that both Sumari Workshops and The Cyberclass Network are accepting "community currency" as partial payment for tickets to seminars or presentations. Sumari Workshops is sponsoring the David Icke seminars in Ottawa, Toronto and Windsor. The Cyberclass Network is sponsoring the Book Tour Presentation re: the book Rights Denied by Dave Lindsay in Ottawa, on September 28, 1999.
The article is titled: "MONO-ATOMIC GOLD: A SECRET OF SHAPESHIFTING AND THE REPTILIAN CONTROL?"
David is seeking information from anyone who might give him more research data on this subject. He is currently touring North America with bookings in Ottawa, Toronto and Windsor during the first week of October.
A piece of information that you will not read in the mainstream media - on Thursday, September 23,1999 Bernie Farber, Executive Director of the Canadian Jewish Congress telephoned and faxed Sumari Workshops in Toronto, Ontario to inform Loretta and Susan that David Icke promotes "anti-semitism." I am wondering exactly what it is that Bernie Farber has identified as "anti-semitic" in David Icke's presentations.
It will be interesting to see what develops with from this "fear-based" communication by Bernie Farber.
3. Vito Carini, a TCN subscriber has researched and published a very informative document entitled Money Enlightenment. I have posted the text of Money Enlightenment at this URL: http://www.cyberclass.net/vito.htm
I encourage you to review the copy of Money Enlightenment. If you should ever want to own a printed copy of Money Enlightenment it is available for U.S.$10.00 or C.$12.00, including postage and handling anywhere within the U.S. and Canada. For overseas orders, please remit U.S.$15.00. This includes postage and handling.
**************************************************************** 4. Loretta Victoria, a TCN subscriber forwarded a URL for those who "Thirst For Justice." There are some very informative articles at this URL: http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/eng.htm
5. John Hogue, the Rogue Scholar has authored numerous books about "visions", "prophecies", "messiahs" and the "millennium." Check out his biography and his books at this URL: http://www.hogueprophecy.com
6. Learn about The Bohemian Grove. The 1999 Bohemian Club's Annual Summer Encampment was held during the last two weeks of July. It was another two-week retreat for the rich and powerful. President Herbert Hoover once called this event "the greatest men's party on Earth." The club's famed annual gathering has been held for more than 100 years at the 2,700-acre Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, about 70 miles north of San Francisco in Sonoma County. This year's event drew in notables such as former President George Bush, Texas Gov. George W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, retired Gen. Colin Powell, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Dow Chemical Chairman Frank Popoff, as well as actor Danny Glover. Check out more details at this URL: http://www.mt.net/~watcher/bohemiangrove.html
Greetings to readers of the TCN (thecyberclassnetwork) egroups e-zine:
As moderator of the TCN (thecyberclassnetwork) egroups e-zine it was my intention to let anyone post an article at any time. However, because a number of emails were posted right after the TCN (thecyberclassnetwork) egroups e-zine was launched various subscribers emailed me to suggest that I monitor the information that people wish to post. They suggested this would give me an opportunity to summarize the relevant information from various emails and then post only the pertinent information at the TCN (thecyberclassnetwork) egroups e-zine. It was suggested that such monitoring would reduce the number of emails and maintain a the standard of quality emails that has been established by the TCN (thecyberclassnetwork) over the past year. Instead of the longer name (thecyberclassnetwork) I will refer to this e-zine as the TCN egroups e-zine.
So it is my self-imposed mission to receive the information from subscribers in the "management box" provided by egroups and then present whatever is relevant to the readers of the TCN egroups e-zine. It is indeed a challenge to exercise care in selecting the pertinent information while refraining from censoring. I will make my best effort to post what is relevant.
In this regard, I have information to share from three subscribers of the TCN egroups e-zine. You may agree or disagree with what these TCN subscribers write. Should any readers wish to communicate directly with any or all three of these TCN subscribers their respective emails are posted with their signature.
Working with you for "peace and plenty" by 2020
I AM
Tom J. Kennedy
www.cyberclass.net
PS 1: Readers of the TCN egroups e-zine are invited to frequently visit this URL and check for new links and upcoming events. www.thecyberclassnetwork@egroups.com
PS 2: Brad Medd will be back in court in Lindsay, Ontario on Monday, September 13,1999 at 9:30 AM. Any readers of the TCN egroups e-zine who live within reasonable driving distance of Lindsay, Ontario are invited to attend. Brad always appreciates any visible support in the courthouse and it does make a difference..... For those who are not familiar with Brad Medd's challenge to Revenue Canada Taxation please visit this URL: http://www.cyberclass.net/medd.htm
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Dear readers of the TCN egroups e-zine:
This my first contact on thecyberclassnetwork@egroups.com
According to e-mails from people they "would like to know more." Well, I am provincially incorporated in B/C., as an Executive Consultant. As such, I give much of my knowledge away free. As much as possible, I do this also on the Internet.
I consult in three fields:
1. I show Business Executives how to stay fit in office; by giving them advice in matters of effective cooking, eating and activity.
2. I show the same executives, how to utilize biblical principles in business.
3. I also show them, how to deal with politicians effectively. In this, I show them government law, such as is being withheld from lawyers during their time in Law School. This particular knowledge amounts to professional government as required by law; which is strikingly different from political government, which is provably illegal. I thought, that this much might serve you well as a first bite.
I have long found out, that all things contrary, have a political root in some business in collusion with parliament. Corrections are possible only, through corrective legislation; which will not happen, for as long as we, the concerned citizens, fail to learn enough of the applicable parliamentary procedures, to tell our MP's how governing is done according to law.
I give seminars on that subject, here in Greater Vancouver.
Alert your friends, to make arrangements.
My Phone Number is: (604) 298-0478. A good time to call is: 0730 PDT.
Cordially,
Poldi Meindl
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Dear readers of the TCN egroups e-zine:
Our mutual friend David Icke has not as yet learned how governing is done according to law. Namely, there is a significant difference in performance, between professional government, as it is required by law; and political government, which by-passes its mandates; and is thereby provably illegal. Professional government is what we pay for through taxation; but political government is what we get, because we are too complacent to learn the rules. We complain and demand out of politically imposed ignorance. In this, we do no better than treading water until the strongest of us get too tired for it. There is therefore no way that David Icke will set anyone of us free; neither by philosophy, not by ongoing complaint. Cordially,
Poldi Meindl
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Dear readers of the TCN egroups e-zine:
There is a remedy for every evil, except death. 99.9% of all evil results from human error. Therefore, 99.9% of our troubles could be resolved, as soon as we are willing to take stock of what we are doing. If then we are frightened by the plans of our politicians, then we only need to replace these desperados with reliable administrators.
But in order to do this at all, we ourselves need to learn the rules of professional government; so that we ourselves become instrumental in the elimination of political government. This takes a bit of time; and, while it would bring us effective control, it also brings us a corresponding measure of personal responsibility. This is not what we want. Responsibility is not our cup of tea. We want to complain. We wrongfully expect and demand, that our typically crooked politicians become decent citizens as a result of our ongoing complaints. It just does not add up.
Cordially,
Poldi Meindl
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Wes Burt forwarded information to the TCN egroups e-zine about "the common denominator of social reform." There are graphs posted at this URL: http://www.freespeech.org/darves/bert.html At the website of the above listed URL it is written: "...you have found the only technically valid global model on the internet, a global model which fairly illustrates both the macro and micro aspects of the present condition of our global industrial society." Readers are invited to visit the above listed URL if you are interested in Wes Burt's research.
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Vito Carini wrote:
"The TCN egroups e-zine is a good idea, especially if it gets real and good exposure. I wish to make a submssion to the TCN egroups e-zine. I have updated my Money Enlightenment course and put the entire text on Floppy Disk. I propose to send you a copy to put on the TCN egroups e-zine. People can read it for free, download it,-whatever. If they want a printed version of it anyway, they can buy it for $10.00 U.S. including postage and handling. Please email me for the mailing address.
That's my suggestion,- as it appears to be what the TCN egroups e-zine is for." Sincerely, Vito Carini.
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Take $250 And An Implant - Company Foreshadows Future By Jim Keith <jkeith@...>
www.nitronews.com (A Daily Net Newspaper) - very unlike the Daily Newspaper in your City. Bookmark it and read it often to get another perspective on the "news."
8-29-99
If you have any doubt that a New World Order of total surveillance and control is about to arrive in your neighborhood, then browse a website that gives a foreshadowing of the future, and may tip your scales toward total hysteria.
Located at www.idchip.com and headlined, "Building a Cashless World," the site is run by Global Monetary LLP. It claims $5 billion in assets, and offices in Seattle, Zurich, Nairobi, Montevideo, and Singapore, with headquarters in Bentonville, Arizona. Global Monetary is offering qualified persons $250 if they take a below-the-skin electronic implant in the palm of their hand.
According to the Global Monetary website, "The IDchip tm implant is a very small electronic device that is painlessly implanted into the tissue of your right palm. It leaves no scar and is not visible in any way. You will not be able to feel it in your hand, as the device is mostly soft flexible plastic. It will never need to be removed as it is continually recharged by the proprietary mouse." The computer mouse "interfaces directly with the electronic implant in your palm thus establishing a fool proof electronic ID system for e-commerce over the internet and in stores... Once operational you will be able to purchase everything without the need of cash or even a credit card!"
Who is qualified to take the chip? "Eventually, everyone will be qualified to become a member, but now all you need is a qualified computer and to meet demographic qualifications." Demographic qualifications are not much elaborated upon in the company's literature, beyond an enquiry in their questionnaire about "racial composition."
The reason that Global Monetary is offering a fee for people to take the chip is, "We understand that the general public is uncomfortable with the notion of implanted electronic devices. So we feel we need to offer substantial incentive until such time as it has gained the public acceptance."
The company informs us that they are "aggressively building a proprietary global system of customer tracking and profiling. From this, profit potential will emerge in the form of merchant fees and fees associated with market targeting for customer research and law enforcement."
So, how do you sign up to take the chip? Simply fill in the form conveniently provided at the website, and, "If your application is accepted, a customer service representative will contact you to schedule a time for a certified technician to painlessly affect the implant procedure. He will set up the IDchip tm software and mouse on your home computer and will be available to answer any questions you might have."
On top of all this, we are told, "Global Monetary is very active in the world community and is an avid supporter and contributor to the United Nations." Being big fans of the U.N., Global Monetary even offers a computerized link to the organization's website, and a gallery of photos and information about recent wonderments of global intervention performed by the U.N.
There you have it: the implant devices that the anti-New World Order types have been warning us about for a half-century or more have suddenly arrived in Anytown, U.S.A., not to mention Nairobi. Not to worry, though. Global Monetary reassures us, "People have been made frightened of such devices by television programs, etc., but there is no justifiable reason for concern."
Actually, I think the folks at Global Monetary know perfectly well that it isn't TV programs that have scared people off taking electronic implants in the hand. I won't belabor the similarities of the Global Monetary chip to certain biblical prophecies about the Mark of the Beast, but they are enough to give even such a confirmed skeptic as myself pause to shudder.
But therein lies the rub. For you see, the website is part of an intriguing project run by Bill Cross. He wants to record a glimpse of how humans will react when such chip technology truly becomes available in the 21st Century.
And according to him, visitors are signing up for his "imaginary" implants in droves. What started out as a humorous test in psychology has turned into a shocking glimpse of the future.
Cross is totally confounded that so many people are willing to receive the "Mark of the Beast." Would you take it for $250?
The point of this article by Jim Keith is to show that the ID Chip website <http://www.idchip.com> is a very clever (hoax) by Bill Cross. Noting the reaction of people to this clever hoax does foreshadow the future and demonstrates that human psychology can be manipulated. Note that Jim Keith refers to the chips as "imaginary" in the above article.
David was born in Leicester, England in 1952. He started his career as a professional soccer player at the age of 15. Six years later at the age of 21 rheumatoid arthritis ended his career as a player in 1973. He then ventured into journalism and regional television until 1980, when he became a network television news and sports presenter with the BBC. He continued with the BBC until 1990.
An experienced environmental campaigner since 1982, Icke had a history of setting up environmental pressure groups. He became the "National Spokesman" for the British Green Party from 1988 until 1991. While working with the Green Party Icke started to research into issues such as "Third World Debt", its true causes and how it could be effectively resolved. Icke soon uncovered a disturbing pattern of events and exploitation that was to change the direction of his life forever.
As his research progressed Icke left the Green party and committed himself totally to his research. From 1991 until the present day Icke has become a man with a mission. Icke continues to research and expose the "truth" about the nature of the human race. Each presentation reviews former material and reveals more information worthy of research and review.
With humor and powerful insight Icke exposes the mental and emotional prisons which billions of people build around themselves - prisons which allow a tiny few to control the direction of the world. Icke exposes the real story behind global events which have shaped the past and which will shape the future of human existence and the world we leave our children. Fearlessly, he lifts the veil on an astonishing web of interconnected manipulation to reveal that the same few people, secret societies and organizations control the daily direction of our lives.
Icke explains how this financial elite has engineered the wars, violent revolutions, terrorist outrages and political assassinations. He demonstrates how they control the world market in hard drugs and the mass media indoctrination machine. Never before has this web, its personnel and methods, been revealed in such a detailed and devastating fashion. Icke reveals how religion, politics, banking and business have been designed from the start to control and suppress human
potential in pursuit of a devious, long term agenda.
Daviddifferentiates between "religion" and "spirituality." He offers inspiring "spiritual" solutions and encourages every man, woman and child on planet earth to take action to break free of the incessant, daily programming - the "Coup d’etat" that has been controlling the human mind throughout history. Icke maintains that it is time for each individual totake back his/her infinite power and start to think for him/herself and decide his/her own destiny.
David Icke’s words are designed to inspire all of us to be who we really are, to fling open the door of the mental prison we build for ourselves and to walk into the light of freedom.
Readers are invited to visit his website at this URL: http://www.davidicke.com Readers are also invited to subscribe to his ezine which contains a great deal of relevant information. To subscribe to David Icke’s free ezine go to this URL: http://www.davidicke.com/icke/index1.html and follow the instructions.
I will briefly outline a few concepts that David Icke has addressed during previous two day presentation and which he will likely address during his two presentation at Kemptville College on October 2nd and 3rd. If you would like to view a video of David Icke’s presentation in Vancouver, in March of 1999 where 1000 people attended please contact (TCN) The Cyberclass Network.TCN will arrange a video showing in mid-September for those who would express an interest.
David Icke has a simple philosophy whereby he says: "I follow information, and I'll go where it takes me. If you come from, anyone comes from, any belief or background, whether it be religious, political, or whatever, and they are rigid with it, then they're never going to uncover what's going on because of that belief. That rigid belief, will start to edit information when it comes toward you, and you start editing-out information that's taking you away and challenging your original belief-system."
David Icke has uncovered the "divide and rule" tactic as the actual foundation of all control by the few of the many, throughout human history. He claims that without it you couldn't maintain control. He is dismayed though that conspiracy researchers and people in some of the religions still fall for this scam of "divide and rule."
David Icke often uses the terms "problem, reaction, solution".He explains these terms as the most powerful mass-manipulation technique that has been used over thousands of years to advance the agenda of the financial elite towards central, globalized control of all institutions of our lives. During his presentations he points out classic examples whereby "problem, reaction, solution" is used to manipulate the masses.
For instance, David Icke explains that if you wanted to give more power to the police, more power to the military, more power to stop and search, more power to go into your homes without permission, etc., and you did that openly without any of this other incentive-manipulation, there would be tremendous resistance from the people. So, to avoid such resistance the financial elite engage the "problem, reaction, solution" technique. It's really a simple and brilliant technique carefully crafted to avoid opposition, while actually manipulating the people who would normally oppose what you want to do. The people are manipulated into seeing the "proposed solution" as the best and only solution to the earlier problems that were created so that the people would demand a solution.
David Icke talks about how during the 1970's Henry Kissinger and his cronies actually took an active role in the creation of what we call the New-Age Movement. Though some people claim that this is a ridiculous proposition, consider that whereas mainstream religious organizations cajole followers to give their minds away to dieties out there somewhere, various New-Age so-called spiritual groups often cajole followers to give their minds away to selected gurus, entities etc... Thus, in so many areas the New-Age movement has become just another form of religion and control.
David Icke has been moving around in New-Age circles for the past ten years and according to his experiences he claims that: "you go against the "party line" and you see what happens." According to Icke, it's just like going against the party line of Christianity or going against the party line of the Pope - you get jumped on by the majority - or as David Icke likes to say, "you are policed by the herd and you’d better not step out of your hassle-free zone or if you do you must be willing to suffer the consequences."
David Icke explains that the real truth is that WE, as individuals, are in control of our destiny, and not external forces being in control. According to Icke, it is very important, in the years that we are in now, that we start to take our individual sovereignty back and start to realize that we have the right to decide our truth and live our truth. We must stop having another’s truth imposed upon us, whether it's the New-Age movement, Christianity, Hinduism, Atheism, or whatever it is. We must understand that the whole basis of the control is getting individuality subordinated to the group, getting individuality suppressed by the majority or suppressed by the herd mentality.
For registration and more information about David Icke's presentation at Kemptville, Ontario on October 2nd and 3rd 1999 please phone: 1.416.259.2829 Fax: 1.416.259.8816 Email:sumari@... (Mention that you learned about the David Icke presentation at The Cyberclass Network and that you would like to pay for a portion of your ticket with "community currency.") It is very exciting for me to know that a portion of your ticket for the David Icke Presentation can be purchased with cc$ (community currency.) Anyone wishing to take advantage of this offer of purchasing with "community currency" is invited to join the Ottawa LETS to facilitate such an exchange. The name of the "community currency" traded by the Ottawa LETS is "ecodollars."
Note: The Cyberclass Network (TCN) offers hosts interactive TCN "cell" workshops. These "cell" workshops are designed to inform people and to encourage them to serve others by networking the information through whatever means is available to them. Contact information: Tel: 613.746.9702 Fax: 613.747.6666 Email: tom@... Website: http://www.cyberclass.net
I recently received an email from a "cyberspace friend" with the following article "The Cashless Society Is Here" authored by Chris Beard. After reading it I decided to share it with readers at thecyberclassnetwork@egroups.com and some other "cyberspace friends". I have always maintained that any worthy SDI (Self Directed Incomes) opportunity that is earning steady, respectable "tax free" incomes for those of us who are consistently working towards "peace and plenty" by 2020 - ought to be shared with others so that they might make a choice of whether to add it to their respective SDI Portfolio. We need to share information so that we can learn from each other and network new information to others who "don't know they don't know" as we approach the new millenium and face the Y2K crisis and many other unknown challenges.
In this regard, I don't know Chris Beard personally, but his article certainly opens up my mind to possibilities and raises lots of questions. I am motivated to share it with you. Last fall I had the opportunity of visiting the St. Lawrence Market in Toronto where Mayor Mel Lastman introduced the Toronto Dollar - a local currency which is accepted at par by participating merchants. Using an alternative currency like Toronto Dollars may very well be the "economic lifeboat" that we will need to rely on if we willfully choose to withdraw from the "cashless society" which is being imposed upon us.
On Sunday, December 6th, 1998 I also attended a presentation by David Butterfield in Guelph, Ontario - where the people rejected the "Mondex Card" after a trial period and the Mondex office was forced to close. David talked about the illegality of the Income Tax Act and the Bank Act and the "Mondex Card" and how unknown to most fellow-Canadians the financial elite are threatening our freedoms while ushering in the "cashless society" .
Initially, I disbelieve what I hear at presentations and/or read on the internet - BUT - when I hear supporting information from sources unknown to each other I begin asking questions and questioning answers. Having been involved in extensively researching issues relating to "economics", "health", "energy" and "spirituality" since the early 1980's I have evolved to the stage where I now say: "Every day I learn how little I know" and now I am open to the possibility that - whether by design or by accident - indeed, there may be some "conspiratorial" happenings occurring all around us.
"Nuff said - It's your turn to read the article. Of course, you are free to disregard its content or do your own research and/or share it with others who may be ready and willing to learn "what they don't know they don't know".
After years of planning, research, and development the world's financial institutions are announcing the much anticipated GLOBAL CASHLESS SOCIETY. The ability to conduct all manner of monetary exchange is now being replaced by microchip technology and electronic currency.
MONDEX is the company providing this cashless system and has already franchised over 20 major nations. This system was created in 1993 by London bankers Tim Jones and Graham Higgins of NATWEST/COUTTS, the personal bank of Britains Royal Family.
The system is based on SMART CARD technology which employs microchips concealed in a plastic card which stores electronic cash, identification, and other information. All transaction systems are being made secure by adopting SET protocols (Secure Electronic Transaction) and will display the SET MARK.
MON-DEX - A compound of the words MONETARY & DEXTER. Webster's Dictionary Encyclopedia Edition defines these words as:
monetary - pertaining to money
dexter - belonging to or located on the right hand
SET - the Egyptian god of evil or Satan
Along with the cards, you may use a PET device (Personal Electronic Transfer). This wallet sized calculator-like device allows you to conduct personal currency exchanges with other card holders. The cards also works with the NORTEL/BELL VISTA 360 phone, MILLENNIUM pay phones, ATMs, your PC, the INTERNET, and online businesses and institutions.
This cashless system has been tested extensively in the city of Guelph, in Ontario, Canada, and in the U.K. and U.S. All Canadian banks have signed up to MONDEX and will be promoting it soon. Plans are to have it in widespread use by 1998. (Mondex has withdrawn from Guelph as of
late October 1998 - experiment failed...)
The CIBC (Canadian International Bank of Commerce) has even set up a model cashless branch inside NORTEL in Brampton, Ontario. Over 250 corporations in 20 countries are involved in bringing MONDEX to the world and many nations have already been franchised to use it; the U.K., Canada, U.S.A., Australia, New Zealand, Israel, Hong Kong, China, Indonesia, Macau, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, India, Taiwan, Sri Lanka, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Panama, Honduras, El Salvador and Belize. The European Union is expected to adopt the MONDEX system as their unified currency solution.
Other SMARTCARD systems are quickly being put aside in favor of MONDEX, especially since MASTER CARD bought a 51% stake in the company. NATWEST will still maintain directorship in it's development and implementation.
"This is the final stage in becoming a global reality," said Robin O'Kelly of MONDEX International. "With MasterCard's backing, there's nothing to stop MONDEX now from becoming the global standard.
Eventually the idea of carrying a card will become obsolete as people soon discover that it has its security limitations-namely, being susceptible to damage, loss and theft. The final solution will be to have the microchip simply placed inside the human body as they do now with microchip pet identification systems.
NFOPET is one of several companies that provide a syringe gun implantable bio-chip that is injected under the skin of an animal. The chip can be read by a scanner and the code identifying the owner and pet will bring up a file on a computer. The system boasts that it can track over 1 billion pets by satellites and cellular towers.
MOTOROLA, which produces the microchips for the MONDEX SMARTCARD, has developed several human implantable bio-chips.The BT952000 chip was engineered by Dr. Carl Sanders who was directed in 17 NEW WORLD ORDER meetings to develop the device for global use in humans for economic and identification purposes.
The bio-chip measures 7mm long and .75mm in width, about the size of a grain of rice. It contains a transponder and a rechargeable lithium battery. The battery is charged by a thermo-couple circuit that produces voltage from fluctuations in body temperature. They spent over 1.5 million dollars studying where to place the chip in the human body. They found only two suitable and efficient places - the FOREHEAD just under the hairline, and the back of the hand, specifically the RIGHT HAND.
And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given mark in their right hand, or in their forehead, and he provides that no one should be able to buy or sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:16
Dr. Sanders was against the use of the lithium battery because it was known that if it were to break the lithium would cause a GRIEVOUS BOIL or sore and cause much agony to the host.
And the first went and poured out his vial upon the earth, and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshiped his image. Revelation 16:2.
After Dr. Sanders left the project, he was introduced to the prophetic scriptures in the Bible concerning the "mark of the beast" He then converted to the Christian faith and now conducts seminars on this topic. He developed patented medical, surveillance, and security equipment for the FBI, CIA, IRS, IBM, GE, Honeywell, and Teledyne. He has also received the President's and Governors award for design and excellence.
Mark is charagma, which means a scratch, or etching, stamp, insignia, or mark of servitude. The number 666 is the Greek phrase Chi Xi Sigma, meaning to stick or prick, a mark incised or punched for the recognition of ownership.
The industry name for the advanced smart card developed by GEM-PLUS and the U.S. DOD (Department of Defense) is the MARC (Multi-technology Automated Reader Card).
The code name for it's development was 'TESSERA'. A tessera was the Roman insignia of ownership placed on their slaves which if re moved would result in the slave being branded with a mark. In November 1996 an agreement was made by which GEMPLUS will supply smartcards for the global implementation of MONDEX.
AT&T/Lucent Technologies purchased the franchise for MONDEX USA. Their logo is the symbol of the Solar Serpent or RED DRAGON who is Satan.
LUCENT is compounded from LUCIFER - ENTERPRISES. They seem to be quite flagrant in naming their products STYX (a river in Hades), JANUS (2 faced god) and INFERNO promoted with a quote from "The Inferno," a story about LUCIFER in the bowels of hell. The "ring of fire" is the ancient Pantheon. This company deliberately chose to move their new offices into 666 Fifth Avenue in Manhattan.
"Day was departing, and the darkening air called all earth's creatures to their evening quiet while I alone was preparing as though for war." - The Inferno, Dante, Canto II
One of their proudest achievements is TTS (Text To Speech) in which they give the human-like quality of speech to lifeless technology. This only tends to remind one of the apocalyptic scriptures. And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast might even speak. Revelation 13:15
Since it is not practical to place a microchip in every product that is to ever be bought and sold a UPC BARCODE does the job nicely. What most people don't realize is that this is the "mark of the beast" for the products we buy, use and dispose of everyday. Every UPC BARCODE contains the numbers 666. You will find one of two versions of the mark. The most common has 10 numbers divided into two parts. The other will have 6 numbers. In both versions there are 3 unidentified bars. Those bars are 6, 6, and 6. These are called guard bars, they tellthe scanner when to start, divide, and stop the reading.
Let him who has understanding clalculate the number of the beast for the number is that of a man, and his number is 666. Revelation 13:18
PROJECT LUCID
This global police state apparatus was designed to monitor every man, woman, and child once issued a UNIVERSAL BIOMETRICS CARD just like the MARC or MONDEX. The system was designed by JeanPaul Creusat, M.D. and UN-INEOA representative (United Nations International Narcotic Enforcement Officers Association). An article appeared in NARC OFFICER magazine, that describes the system. It appears to be closely related to the UN GLOBAL SECURITY PROGRAMME.
Author Texe Marrs has written an entire book on PROJECT LUCID. In it he tells of the refusal to disclose the project's acronym leading him to believe LUC-ID may stand for LUCIFER's IDENTIFICATION. Many proponents of the NEW GLOBAL ORDER are occultic, Masonic, or antichristian and they seem to take delight with their veiled expressions. With LUCID the global law enforcement authority will be able to track your every move, transaction, and acquaintance - it's that intrusive.
Simon Davies of PRIVACY INTERNATIONAL investigated MONDEX's anomynity claims and found that they were monitoring all transactions in the trials breaking specific trade laws.
Many if not most of MONDEX's original 17 or so financial backers are from the London banking district belonging to the CLUB OF THE ISLES, a HOUSE OF WINDSOR banking cartel that has a major choke hold on GLOBAL economics. Through secretive meetings and strategic alliances these powerful MASONIC institutions influence world politics, finances, resources, and even the policies and structure of the UNITED NATIONS. Their goal is a NEW WORLD ORDER based on one global government, one global religion, and one global electronic economy.
There is a MAN who is the BEAST spoken of by the prophets and the number of his name is 666. He is the LORD OF THE ISLES, a world figure whom many adore but he is also a man of intrigue and his power and influence have been grossly underestimated. He and his family were the first to publicly receive the microchip implant/mark which was broadcast around the world on CNN in March of 1996. But because the whole world is asleep, deluded, too busy, and unaware, and the god of this world continues to work in secrecy.
There are hundreds more companies and people involved with the implementation of the GLOBAL CASHLESS ECONOMY but presented here are a few of the main players. This should give you a brief introduction to what the mark of the beast is and how it is being implemented. I have also included a few explanations of MONDEX symbolism.
MONDEX's logo contains 3 inter-linked rings, a symbol only found in occultic MASONIC orders. It's general meaning regards three gods or the Egyptian/Pagan trinity especially in the Enochian Temple Magick rituals of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. Namely Isis, Osiris, Horus, but originally in the Bible Ashtoreth, Nimrod, Tammuz/Baal.
The Pagan trinity are three gods manifested in one way whereas the Christian trinity is one god manifested in three ways. This symbol was also used by the Grand Lodge of England and the Order of Odd Fellows founded by NERO in A.D. 55. "Originally a symbol of imprisonment and slavery, defeat. - The 'golden chain' (in Latin catena aurea) was thought of in antiquity as linking heaven and earth" [like the tower of Babel in Babylon] "This is Homer's 'golden chain', which God, according to the poet, ordered suspended from heaven to earth.
In the symbolism of Freemasonry, the "fraternal chain" is the bond between brother Masons understood as extending across international borders and encircling the globe. Tthe new initiate, when he "sees the light," see the brothers "standing in the chain." In this connection, the symbolic chain often appears in the names of lodges. - The linked rings of the chain signify a powerful and lasting unity - .or that in war - a stronghold has been broken through. Dictionary of Symbolism - Hans Biedermann pg. 63-64
"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be mislead. pg 104,105
"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them, but it is intended he shall imagine he understands them." pg 819 Albert Pike, 33o Mason, "Morals and Dogma"
Another symbol utilized by MONDEX is the butterfly. This symbol has numerous mystical meanings but the most prominent is that of capturing the soul. The Greek word for butterfly and soul is "psyche." Can receiving the "mark of the beast,"a deal with the Devil, cause you to lose your soul?
.. . . If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark in his forehead or in his hand he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of Yahweh, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger, and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name. Revelation 14:9-11
SO YOU DON'T WANT TO GO CASHLESS. THEN WHAT?
First off, you will find yourself quickly becoming financially handicapped in your payment options. You will also pay heavy fees for using cheques until cheques are eliminated. You will be pressured and even coerced to have all your bill payments and paychecks conducted automatically and electronically. Home banking on your PC or phone will become necessary as tellers and bank branches are replaced by ATM's. Large sums of cash will be next to impossible to obtain. Cash will be recalled and the smartcard will become mandatory. You will then find that you cannot pay your bills or buy groceries.
Messiah told us to have hope and not despair because He would soon be coming. He told us not to be weighed down with anxieties just to wake up one day and be trapped by the circumstances. He told us to occupy until He comes. He gave us a special end times commission. Who then is the faithful, thoughtful, and wise servant, whom his master has put in charge of his household to give o others the food and supplies at the proper time? Blessed is that servant whom his master finds doing these things when he comes. Matthew 24:45-46
MAKE THE COMMITMENT TODAY
Please make the committment today that you will never go under a cashless debt-based system, that you will never submit to the mark of the beast. Already natural disasters are increasing in various places catching people unprepared. There may be man made crises to accelerate the need to unite and surrender our rights, privacy, freedoms, properties for so-called "peace and security." Flee, not for the sake of saving flesh alone, but to fulfill our lives to the fullest taking every opportunity to live and add to the kingdom of heaven.
HELPLESS OR HOPEFUL
You will be either helpless or hopeful. Draw the line here, do not go down the easy broadway that MONDEX is opening wide. Our Savior wants us to overcome what oppression and persecution lies ahead, so that you may receive a crown of great glory. The "elite" have planned for these events well in advance and they are carrying out their agenda now to create a NEW WORLD ORDER by A.D. 2000.
They are currently producing one billion MONDEX chips per year and they already have been in production for at least one year. Chances are that if you are reading this, your bank has already signed on to MONDEX and will be promoting it shortly, no matter where in the world you live.
They have discovered that as long as the chip is in the card, there are some serious problems. The chip can be hacked and information changed or counterfeited. The values can be altered. The card contacts wear out within a year. It can be broken, stolen or lost. The electronic cash is not insured for the customer.
There is only one solution to these problems and that is to follow Motorola and InfoPet's lead and implant the chip into the flesh where it cannot be successfully circumvented. In either form, it is to the same ends. Card or flesh, whatever we end up is the mark of the beast. It is still MONDEX .and means..."money in the right hand."
I have always viewed the LETS system of economics as an "economic lifeboat" which will be very beneficial for those who are LETS participants as we approach the Granddaddy Depression that will make the Depression of 1929 look like a Sunday picnic.
Sometimes when a news item - which has been your passion for a very long time - catches your eye you want to share it with supporters so they will know they are not alone (as it so often seems) in their self-imposed mission of marketing "truth" to those "who don't know they don't know".
In this regard, and in the spirit of providing "economic lifeboats" as we approach the y2k "crisis" I draw your attention to a significant development in the great city of Toronto, Ontario, Canada - where on December 5th, 1998 Mel Lastman, the mayor of Toronto released "Toronto Dollars" - a new local currency in Toronto. Though it's a 100% reserve LETS rather than a 0% reserve LETS, it demonstrates some of the benefits that are inherent in all LETS systems and shows how the LETS concept of barter can indeed provide "economic lifebats" for those who want to help themselves survive the upcoming economic crisis. Full information at: www.web.net/~tordoll
I draw your attention to another supporting article "Peace and Plenty By 2020"
There are other articles relating to this idea that LETS has great potential to fill in economic gaps that will be created by the y2k crisis. Some of these are posted at The Economics Room in the Barter/Lets Lessons at The Cyberclass Network <www.cyberclass.net>.
I also draw your attention to the abundance of supporting information posted by John C. Turmel at: <www.cyberclass.net/turmel>
Working with you for "peace and plenty" by 2020 I AM Tom J. Kennedy www.cyberclass.net
A Story Worthy of Sharing...as this 1999-2000 school year begins....
He was in the first third grade class I taught at Saint Mary's School in Morris, Minnesota. All 34 of my students were dear to me, but Mark Eklund was one in a million. Very neat in appearance, but had that happy-to-be-alive attitude that made even his occasional mischieviousness delightful.
Mark talked incessantly. I had to remind him again and again that talking without permission was not acceptable. What impressed me so much, though, was his sincere response every time I had to correct him for misbehaving, "Thank you for correcting me,Sister!"
I didn't know what to make of it at first, but before long I became accustomed to hearing it many times a day.
One morning my patience was growing thin when Mark talked once too often, and then I made a novice-teacher's mistake. I looked at Mark and said, "If you say one more word, I am going to tape your mouth shut."
It wasn't ten seconds later when Chuck blurted out, "Mark is talking again." I hadn't asked any of the students to help me watch Mark, but since I had stated the punishment in front of the class, I had to act on it. I remember the scene as if it had occurred this morning. I walked to my desk, very deliberately opened by drawer and took out a roll of masking tape. Without saying a word, I proceeded to Mark's desk, tore off two pieces of tape and made a big X with them over his mouth. I then returned to the front of the room. As I glanced at Mark to see how he was doing, he winked at me.
That did it!! I started laughing. The class cheered as I walked back to Mark's desk, removed the tape, and shrugged my shoulders. His first words were, "Thank you for correcting me, Sister."
At the end of the year, I was asked to teach junior-high math. The years flew by, and before I knew it Mark was in my classroom again. He was more handsome than ever and just as polite. Since he had to listen carefully to my instruction in the "new math," he did not talk as much in ninth grade as he had in third. One Friday, things just didn't feel right. We had worked hard on a new concept all week, I sensed that the students were frowning, frustrated with themselves and edgy with one another. I had to stop this crankiness before it got out of hand. So I asked them to list the names of the other students in the room on two sheets of paper, leaving a space between each name. Then I told them to think of the nicest thing they could say about each of their classmates and write it down. It took the remainder of the class period to finish their assignment, and as the students left the room, each one handed me the papers. Charlie smiled. Mark said, "Thank you for teaching me, Sister. Have a good weekend."
That Saturday, I wrote down the name of each student on a separate sheet of paper, and I listed what everyone else had said about that individual. On Monday I gave each student his or her list. Before long, the entire class was smiling. "Really?" I heard whispered. "I never knew that meant anything to anyone!" "I didn't know others liked me so much."
No one ever mentioned those papers in class again. I never knew if they discussed them after class or with their parents, but it didn't matter. The exercise had accomplished its purpose. The students were happy with themselves and one another again. That group of students moved on. Several years later, after I returned from vacation, my parents met me at the airport. As we were driving home, Mother asked me the usual questions about the trip - the weather, my experiences in general. There was a lull in the conversation. Mother gave Dad a side-ways glance and simply says, "Dad?" My father cleared his throat as he usually did before something important. "The Eklunds called last night," he began.
"Really?" I said. "I haven't heard from them in years. I wonder how Mark is." Dad responded quietly. "Mark was killed in Vietnam," he said. "The funeral is tomorrow, and his parents would like it if you could attend." To this day I can still point to the exact spot on I-494 where Dad told me about Mark.
I had never seen a serviceman in a military coffin before. Mark looked so handsome, so mature. All I could think at that moment was, Mark I would give all the masking tape in the world if only you would talk to me. The church was packed with Mark's friends. Chuck's sister sang "The Battle Hymn of the Republic." Why did it have to rain on the day of the funeral? It was difficult enough at the graveside. The pastor said the usual prayers, and the bugler played taps. One by one those who loved Mark took a last walk by the coffin and sprinkled it with holy water. I was the last one to bless the coffin. As I stood there, one of the soldiers who acted as pallbearer came up to me. "Were you Mark's math teacher?" he asked. I nodded as I continued to stare at the coffin.
"Mark talked about you a lot," he said. After the funeral, most of Mark's former classmates headed to Chuck's farmhouse for lunch. Mark's mother and father were there, obviously waiting for me. "We want to show you something," his father said, taking a wallet out of his pocket. "They found this on Mark when he was killed. We thought you might recognize it." Opening the billfold, he carefully removed two worn pieces of notebook paper that had obviously been taped, folded and refolded many times. I knew without looking that the papers were the ones on which I had listed all the good things each of Mark's classmates had said about him. "Thank you so much for doing that," Mark's mother said. "As you can see, Mark treasured it."
Mark's classmates started to gather around us. Charlie smiled rather sheepishly and said, "I still have my list. It's in the top drawer of my desk at home." Chuck's wife said, "Chuck asked me to put his in our wedding album." "I have mine too," Marilyn said. "It's in my diary." Then Vicki, another classmate, reached into her pocketbook, took out her wallet and showed her worn and frazzled list to the group. "I carry this with me at all times," Vicki said without batting and eyelash. "I think we all saved our lists."
That's when I finally sat down and cried. I cried for Mark and for all his friends who would never see him again.
The purpose of this email is to encourage everyone to compliment the people you love and care about. We often tend to forget the importance of showing our affections and love. Sometimes the smallest of things, could mean the most to another. I am inviting you, to send this letter around and spread the message. You are encouraged to express your love and caring by giving sincere compliments and being open with your communication. If you are a teacher try "The List" with your class.
Our daily routines and busy lifestyles leave us exhausted and weary and often wanting of real love and caring. Life will end one day - and we know not when. So, be not afraid, tell the people you love and care for, that they are special and important - and tell them now, before it is too late.
You are invited to share this email with others. If you've received this it is because someone cares for you and i there is probably at least one person for whom you really care. Take the time today and share this with someone you really care about. Here's the greater challenge!! Email this story to a minimum of two people on the same day that you read it. When you do this you reap what you sow - and as a bonus you get that warm feeling that comes from loving others.
If you're too busy to take the time to make a few mouse clicks forward this to a minimum of two people, would it be the first time you didn't do that little thing that might make a difference for someone. The person you send it to might send it to one hundred other people and just maybe one of them will really benefit from the story today.
Any common readers of the "econ-lets" conference will know that I was criticized last week for posting information about "Stockgeneration" - the exciting and profitable SDI (Self Directed Incomes) opportunity at the "econ-lets" conference. In fact, I was threatened with the immediate removal of access from my email address for violation of Mailbase's conditions unless I apologized to the owners of the 'econ-lets" list. It was my humble opinion that what I had proposed was relevant to "Furthering LETS Development" but such was not the opinion of one of the co-owners of the "econ-lets" conference. I didn't get a reprimand from the moderator of the lets@onelist conference nor the moderator of thecyberclassnetwork@egroups conference so I am assuming that it is still OK to seek some further discussion at each of these conferences about this topic of finding ways to finance and "Further LETS Development"
I do think that this "thread" about sharing information about opportunities to earn "usury-bearing" cash to finance and "Further LETS Development" deserves more discussion and input so I'm inviting responses to this thread here at lets@onelist.com and/or at thecyberclassnetwork@egroups.com - since such a discussion is considered NOT to be relevant at "econ-lets." I trust that there are some LETsers who have a larger vision of a vibrant and growing "Global LETS" rather than settling for the small vision of keeping LETS very local and stagnant.
I am wondering why so many LETSers with "environmental roots" and/or "socialist tendencies" in general are so opposed to making reference to "commercial" advertising and/or promotion of any sort on discussion lists related to LETS matters. Why don't we expand the functions of our "sacred" discusssion lists so that those of us who want to share ideas about how to create some earnings to "Further LETS Development" can indeed do just that? It is interesting to note that many LETsers seem to be vigorously opposed to "commerce" and "free enterprise" in general and especially hostile towards the modern, proven and popular method of "commercial" marketing commonly called "network marketing" or "multi-level marketing."
It is my experience and understanding that the LETS software was really designed to facilitate "commerce" among individuals and businesses - so why the restrictions? While the LETS software is making slow progress in local communities where individuals are using it to facilitate trades, the LETS software has not yet found its niche in the business community. Even, Michael Linton, the creator of the initial LETS software is searching for creative ways to attract businesses to join local Letsystems. It is basically for this reason that he and Ernie Yacub have been working to launch the "community way" concept BUT lack of 'usury-bearing" cash is also hindering the launch of "community way."
In the past, LETsers on some local committees have made gallant efforts to deny local LETS memberships to "free enterprisers" who are actively working full time with a "network marketing" or "multi-level marketing" company. I have always maintained that whatever you can buy, sell or trade with "usury-bearing" cash you also be able to buy, sell or trade with "usury-free" community currency. I, for one could never understand why local LETSystems would set out to "police" their applicants and deny them memberships if they did not adhere to restricitng rules created by manipulating members of local LETS committees. Who says politics and power struggles are exclusive to the "rich" people in the world of "usury-bearing" finance??
I have often wondered what is it about "business", "free enterprise", "network marketing" or "multi-level marketing" that really irks some LETSers? Some LETSers have such disdain for business related concepts yet, within these same groups of local LETsers I often hear incessant complaining of insufficient "usury-bearing" funds - otherwise known as cash - to keep local LETSystems operating.
"Furthering LETS Development" has been my "self-imposed" mission since I learned of the LETS software way back in 1983. In fact, my "obsessive" (according to my former wife) commitment of "usury-bearing" financial resources and time to "Furthering LETS Development" was instrumental in the break-up of our marriage. Spending countless hours of time and tens of thousands of "usury-bearing" federal Canadian dollars in LETS promotion and advocacy has pretty well kept myself and many other LETsers wallowing in "lack" and "scarcity" for the past 17 years. And the LETS movement is still caught in the paradigm of "lack" and "scarcity.". It is time to open some doors and walk ourselves into personal prosperity and likewise it is time for the LETS movement to take action to usher in "prosperity" and move beyond "scarcity." Perhaps we ought to be looking at the fast-growing SDI (Self Directed Incomes) industry for some leadership with our LETS mission?
I have become aware that I as an "abolitionist" - (one who wishes to abolish "interest" which ought to be correctly called "usury") who seeks to implement the LETS software - the perfect model of a "usury-free" banking system - am engaged in a "financial war" with the "keepers" - the financial elite and their unknowing and unsuspecting supporters who are pushing full steam ahead to create their New World Order where we will be total slaves to their planned "usurious" and "cashless" system of "usury-bearing" economics.
Being fully aware that we are engaged in a "financial war" I have determined that we who have declared ourselves as "abolitionists" ought to be searching for,finding and implementing creative ways to earn and use the same weapon as our enemy - which is "usury-bearing" cash. Until now most of us have been subsidizing the LETS mission from our regular pay cheuqes and this does not provide sufficient resources to facilitate the movement of the LETS mission into the mainstream. Why should we harbour guilt about using their "usury-bearing" cash as we work towards the eventual implementation of a "usury-free" banking system which will usher in a new age of prosperity and abundance for all not just for a select group of financial elites?
Therefore, I have been searching for "pyramid-type opportunities" within the SDI (Self Directed Incomes) industry whereby we the common people can multiply and duplicate our efforts by earning extra "usury-bearing" cash to use as "financial" weapons in this ongoing financial war. Why should we be settling for inferior "financial" weapons?? Let’s face it - our "usury-free" community currency will be inferior until such time as the "usury-bearing" economic system implodes or crashes upon its own evil. Then our "usury-free" community currency will rise up and reign supreme and we will no longer need the inferior weapon of "usury-bearing" cash. BUT until then we need an abundance of "usury-bearing" cash to be competitive in this ongoing financial war.
A little research proves that everything operates in a "pyramid-type" structure. I work as a school teacher in a pyramid-type structure within the educational institution. There is one Director at the top of the local educational pyramid of diminishing opportunity. There are tens of thousands of students, thousands of teachers, hundreds of principals, a very few senior management administrators and the one Director. Rarely do my colleagues even consider that they are indeed working within a pyramid-type structure with diminishing opportunity as one aspires higher levels of success and financial reward.
It is also interesting to note that evidence bears out the simple fact that the person who aspires to climb to the top of any "pyramid-type" structure within our orthodox institutions and/or corporations usually has to become more aggressive and often one must walk all over others to attain the envied status of the top position on the respective pyramid. These pyramid-type structures to which I am referring are found in every institution and in every corporation in the western world and I daresay in the entire world. It seems we all accept such pyramid-type structures with little or no awareness of how we are all limited in our promotional aspirations and/or financial opportunities because of the flawed design of these structures of diminishing opportunity.
While the conventional Stockmarket (NYSE) operates as a pyramid-type structure for the rich folk of orthodox finance, the Virtual game of "Stockgeneration" (SG) has been designed as a pyramid-type "opportunity" or "game" for the common folk of the world - where both the management of Stockgeneration and the players can win some "usury-bearing" cash. In fact, unlike the NYSE, SG has a built-in safety valve with the introduction of Rule 13. It is less likely for SG shares to drop to zero than for Dow-Jones to drop to zero.
The Stockgeneration "game" is one of the newest and most popular SDI (Self Directed Incomes) opportunities to surface as we approach the new millennium. The critical element for the continued success of both the management and the players of Stockgeneration is to play this virtual "game" with an attitude of "abundance" for all and cherish the unselfish motive of "service-to-others" as generous servers, rather than being overcome with an attitude of "scarcity" which triggers the selfish motive of "self-serving" which is commonly perpetrated by the design flaw of "usury" in all of the functioning pyramid-type strucutres common in our orthodox economic system.
When one takes the time to really research and study the so-called "pyramid-type" marketing structures (in the network marketing and/or multi-level marketing industry) that have gained in popularity and acceptance over the past 50 years they might learn "what they didn’t know they didn’t know." I have been as passionate about the network or multi-level marketing industry (which myself and others who are working with me have now call the (SDI) Self Directed Incomes industry as I have been about the LETS software. My research and experience within the SDI industry is revealing that this model of marketing with its unique, pyramid-tpye of structure has some similarities to those orthodox pyramid-type structures in which we are all working BUT the pyramid-type structure common to the SDI industry has many superior elements. The most significant element may very well be the simple fact that you can really only succeed when you reach out and truely demonstrate "service-to-others." The fact that the "network marketing" or "multi-level marketing" industry has earned itself a rather tainted image over the past 40-50 years may very well be related to a misunderstanding of this element of "service-to-others."
Furthermore, leaders in the SDI industry who are truely motivated with a mission of "service-to-others" are making adaptations to the infrastructure of the pyramid-type structures so that the model will serve others, even better. I draw your attention to the unique RIM (Rengerating Inversion Matrix) system designed by Peter Smith and Paul Twyman who created and launched the UIA (United International Alliance) Club on July 31, 1999. As of this date (August 29, 1999) there are 5046 members. That's an impressive average of 175 people joining UIA each day during the past month. I have recently communicated with Peter Smith and Paul Twyman about the possibility of integrating the LETS software within the infrastructure of the UIA Club.
I invite you to review the information about the LETS software and the SDI industry posted at these URL’s: http://www.cyberclass.net/bartable.htm and http://www.cyberclass.net/sditable.htm After reviewing the articles posted at these URL's you will have a better understanding of how the LETS software can be integrated within the infrastructure of any company in the SDI industry.
It is regrettable that so many "hucksters" have tainted the "name" of the "network marketing" or "multi-level marketing" industry by their "selfish" motives over the past 40-50 years BUT if one really understands how these pyramid-type marketing structures are designed one will find out that indeed there is an inherent and flawless, built in concept of "service-to-others" at the very foundation of the network marketing or multi-level marketing or SDI industry. One way to avoid negative association with previous experiences is to create new language. I now prefer to refer to any opportunity which permits one to earn "usury-bearing" cash and/or "usury-free" community currency by their own effort as an SDI opportunity - of course this includes those opportunities in the network marketing or multi-level marketing industry as well as any business opportunity which permits one to earn incomes without "employees". The secret is to avoid "employees" and thereby avoid being restricted by the rules and regulations which the establishment says one must follow when one has "employees". The option is to engage "independent contractors" if one needs to engage the help of others to run one's SDI enterprise.
For a very long time now I have been communicating with leaders in the SDI industry and "re-educating" them about the design flaw of "usury" and about the flawless and perfect model of the "usury-free" banking system - the LETS software. I know that at some point in the not-too-distant future one SDI company somewhere in this global village will make the LETS software a part of their marketing infrastructure. I have already been told by leaders in the SDI industry that given the ease of modern technology dual accounts (cash accounts - which are already commonplace, and community currency accounts which would be added) could be set up with ease. When one SDI company leads the way - others will follow at a rapid rate. I know that the SDI industry has the potential to rapidly re-educate multiple millions very fast and after a transition period of using both "usury-bearing"cash and "usury-free"community currency the people will experience the difference and will discard the former which is at the root cause of "lack and scarcity" and choose the latter which will create "prosperity and abundance" for all. Any selection of worthy "pyramid-type" opportunities from the SDI industry may be very well be our ticket to financing the eventual global implementation of the LETS software - the perfect model of a "usury-free" banking system?
As for labelling "Stockgeneration" or any other opportunity in the SDI industry as a "pyramid scheme" that is almost correct. BUT, these SDI opportunities ought to be correctly called a "pyramid opportunities" rather than "pyramid schemes." There is a negative conotation attached to the word "scheme." Of course, if it is one's intention to deter others from researching and/or experiencing the reality of the SDI industry then I fully understand why one would choose the word "scheme" for it really does conjure up a negative picture in one’s mind. Self Directed Income(s) earners who earn money by working within "pyramid-type" structures - with increasing opportunity - are generally more creative and more likely to ask a lot of questions and question a lost of answers than typical wage earners who work for their pay cheques in the orthodox, pyramid-type of structures - with diminishing opportunity. It has also been my experience that, in general, wage earners are often constant "complainers" and very often critical of "free enterprisers" - for whatever reason.
Some people judge the Stockgeneration opportunity as a "pyramid scheme", a "counterfeit scheme" or otherwise "not legitimate." Myself and others with experience in the SDI industry evaluate it differently - as a unique and creative Self Directed Income opportunity where participants can paly in a "game" and win. In fact, while some people express appreciation when information about such an opportunity is shared others become almost hostile because you simply invited them to explore some information at an identified website. I have learned to follow information to where ever it leads me. I have also come to expect to be criticized and lauded at the same time for acting on any information - and that is exactly what happens
I am currently creating a portfolio of worthy and creative opportunities to earn the "usury-bearing"cash required to eventually implement the "usury-free" community currencies so that people all over this planet may finally be freed from the "yoke of usury" which has been keeping us in financial bondage to the financial elite for thousands of years. The big stumbling block to "Furthering LETS Development" has constantly been the lack of "usury-bearing" cash to finance the launch and administration of the LETS projects. I have decided that I will create a Portfolio of worthy SDI opportunities to earn the cash investments required to launch LETS projects locally and/or globally. Hence, my invitation to participate with Stockgeneration and earn some "usury-bearing" cash.
I have offered some members (those who are open to exploring new ways of creating funds for "Furthering LETS Development") of the Ottawa LETS an opportunity to indirectly invest "eco-dollars" with Stockgeneration. My offer has already been accepted. As my Stockgeneration investment grows I will offer other members of Ottawa LETS and/or other LETSystems an opportunity to initially invest with Stockgeneration by using "community currency." I will simply create a pool of earnings from my SG account and offer to pay the initial cash investment for LETSers who see purpose and value in investing with Stockgeneration. Those who accept my offer will pay me "community currency" from their respective LETS account in exchange for the cash that I invest for them. You can definitely be assured that a portion of any earnings that come my way from Stockgeneration will be used to "Furthering LETS Development." And I daresay the same assurance will come from any LETers who take me up on my offer. I invite other LETS advocates to consider similar arrangements with fellow-LETsers who may wish to "Further LETS Development" by investing some "community currency."
The other concept worthy of mention at this time is to openly invite any leader(s) in the SDI industry who have the financial and people resources and the required technology to create an opportunity within the SDI industry whhereby the LETS software can be integrated as part of the infrastructure of the marketing plan. Dual accounts (cash and community currency) could be set up for all prospective participants. Perhaps a LETS membership and educational package could be included as part of the marketing structure whereby we could be rewarded by commission payment (part cash and part community currency) for sponsoring new members who are committed to trading with the community currency. Certainly this is something to think about.
For those who would like to explore the SDI opportunities mentioned above (Stockgeneration and UIA) please request the URLs by forwarding an email to: tom@... I will forward the URLs with instructions for those who wish to participate and earn some "usury-bearing" cash to finance and "Further LETS Development." It is also prudent to have a goal to keep some earnings for your own personal use. :)
A regular reader of The Cyberclass Network emailings recently shared information with me about the
(SG) Stockgeneration "game." This was the third time that SG had been drawn to my attention. This
time I listened and researched and decided to play in the SG "game" and I'm grateful for learning about
this very unique investment opportunity. It's really fun and in playing I am earning.
When I told him that other readers had told me about SG much earlier in 1999 he wondered why I had
not shared the information much earlier. I have no excuses. The timing is right to share the exciting news
about SG right now. Soooo....readers you are about to be informed about SG so that you can make up
your own mind whether or not you will choose to play in the "game." Without a doubt, SG is an excellent
opportunity to raise some capital for personal spending and/or for special projects.
I was first introduced to(SG) Stockgeneration early in January of 1999. I put it aside and I did not take action. I have spent time the past few days researching SG and I find it credible and worthy of including in my SDI Portfolio. I am now a player in the SG "game." I invite your feedback after you do some of your own research.
I have recently added Stockgeneration to my SDI (Self Directed Incomes) Portfolio. I invite to you to research and explore the Stockgeneraion "investment" game. Understand that I qualify for a bonus when you open an account with Stockgeneration and know that likewise you will qualify for a bonus when one of your referrals opens an account with Stockgeneration. This is a small part of the potential earnings that will come your way by playing the SG "game."
Do take some time to explore the URL's below to give you some background information. For more URL's go to any search engine and search for "Stockgeneration" and you will find plenty more URL's to visit. When you are ready to open your account with Stockgeneration please consider joining with myself otherwise known as The Cyberclass Network account with the ID number:0353328667
Many recent prospective investors have been unable to complete the survey at the SG main page because their (SG's) server's bandwidth has been overwhelmed 24 hours a day with worldwide response. Therefore, the optimal way to enter Stockgeneration is by completing the survey which you can easily access at this URL: http://www.delphi.com/stockgeneration When at this page scroll down the page and click on the rectangle which says "$50 Free." This action of completing the survey immediately qualifies you to receive $50 in your account. Complete the application process as instructed and you will be assigned your ID Number. You can then immediately purchase some stock and I recommend company number 11 for starters.
Should this URL fail then the next best action is to send an email to Stockgeneration at this email address: .payment@...(for payments effected by check, money order or wire transfer). I do not recommed using Western Union at this time for transferring money to Stockgeneration. In the subject line please include "REGISTRATION, DEPOSIT + 50 USD + 10 % BONUS". They will automatically credit your account with the $50 USD and the 10% bonus of your first deposit, without the necessity of you completing our survey - if you cannot access it. Express your intent to open an SG account and include details of the amount of your intended initial deposit which you will be sending to Stockgeneration. Also include my ID number (0353328667) as your referrer. Also please forward an email to myself at: tom@... informing me of your decision to become an investor with Stockgeneration. I thank you in advance for playing the "game" with The Cyberclass Network.
When you log on to your account you will be instructed to "click" on the "My Referrer" link and you will be required to enter the ID number of your referrer. My account is called The Cyberclass Network and my ID number is: 0353328667 If you have any questions about Stockgeneration please forward them to me and myself and/or others working with The Cyberclass Network team will find the answers.
Enjoy this day while playing the Stockgeneration game !!
Paul Davis' website for Stockgeneration is called The Stockgeneration Investor's Group. Very good information. Read Paul's "detailed tips" before you play. Paul also has a good guestbook and he set up the Delphi Discussion Group: http://homestead.dejanews.com/stockgeneration/
Money Mentors displays Stockgeneration as The Internet Stockmarket Program. Good charts and a very good Discusion group with questions and answers: http://www.moneymentors.com
Rupinder provides the answer to question 9 in the Survey at his Stockgeneration website:
Here is an interesting scenario. Robert Burtis a renowned, self-proclaimed, "scam" watcher who has been posting information about "scams" on the internet for more than two years at this URL:http://www.worldwidescam.comhas reviewed the information about Stockgeneration and found it to be worrthy of support. In fact, he invested in Stockgeneration and now promotes it at this website:http://www.virtualstock.net
How can it be a "scam" and not a "scam" at the same time? Just wondering? After you have reviewed the information at the above-mentioned URL's you will have to discern for yourself whether or not Stockgeneration is a "game" you wish to play with some money you won't desperately need tomorrow.
I am now in the game and earning and learning as I play.
Till later...
tjk :)
PS: When you start earning money with Stockgeneration (or otherwise) you will need to become informed about what offshore resources and opportunities are available to you. In this regard you are invited to "click" on the banner at the top of the front page of The Cyberclass Network at this URL: http://www.cyberclass.net You will be escorted to the website of Offshore Secrets which has an abundance of updated information about "offshore" opportunites - which you will definitely not learn from any conservative, "onshore" financial planner or orthodox banker. Review what is offered at Offshore Secrets - which operates from the island of Vanuata, in the South Pacific. Of course, there are many other offshore companies to explore and you are encouraged to start your research now so that you are ready to make a decision when you have some "earnings" and/or "assets" to protect.
Thank you readers - for reading and responding to the earlier posting entitled "Furthering LETS Development." I am pleased to hear from numerous readers about "Furthering LETS Development" and I compliment those who are creatively working towards making it happen.
I am attaching details of "The GFS (Grateful For Service) Gifting Program. If any reader can adapt any parts of it to enhance and "Further LETS Development" please go ahead.
My understanding and appreciation of the power of the LETS software is and has always been "different" than most LETSers. When I first learned of the LETS software in 1983 I was researching economics in general and the banking industry in particular. My research had revealed to me that indeed it was the "interest" on money which was the "design flaw" that was keeping the myself and the masses in financial bondage to the "financial elite" for our entire lifetimes.... As I became familiar with the LETS software in the mid-1980's and I learned exactly how it worked I was struck with amazement. The LETS software is the perfect model of an "interest-free" banking system. Myself and others have pointed this "significant" detail out to Michael Linton on various occasions over the past 16 years and to this very day he places very little importance on the very significant detail that presently and historically all "community currencies" (all LETS currencies are community currencies) just happen to be "interest-free." (The "scrip" used during the 1930's in local communities in Canada, the USA and elsewhere was likewise "interest-free.")
For me, the fact that the LETS software is the perfect model of an "interest-free" banking system has been the most exciting and attractive element of the LETS software for the past 16 years. Yet, Michael Linton, the creator of the LETS software is so modest, that he makes lightly of this most significant detail about the LETS software. Yes, indeed, Michael Linton has created the ultimate solution to our ever-worsening, financial woes on this planet - both locally and globally. Michael Linton places little or no significance on this most important detail - that all "community currencies" as managed by LETSystems all over the world are indeed "interest-free." I applaud Michael Linton for his timely invention - the LETS software and may he one day be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize - for the LETS software which will finally usher in a new age of abundance complete with "peace" and NO MORE WAR!!!!
What has been causing the "scarcity" in our society during this century and in previous centuries is the "design flaw" of "interest." With the creation of the LETS software in 1983 by Michael Linton, we now have the knowledge and the technology to easily replace the "design flaw" of "interest" with the "flawless" creation of "interest-free" community currencies. Though since 1983, the emphasis has been on keeping these "interest-free" community currencies in local communities - it is now time to broaden our scope and realize that what we now have within our grasp is the ability to create a world of "abundance" both locally and globally, with the implementation of the LETS software - the perfect model of an "interest-free" banking system. In fact, our different levels of government (municipal, provincial, and federal) can use the LETS software for the creation of "interest-free" currencies to fund local projects - instead of borrowing money and paying "interest" to the banking cartels of the world.
I anticipate that an honourable and honest mayor of a municipal government - probably in western Canada, or in England - will be the first to take action and publicly declare that s/he will make the LETS software a part of the infrastructure of the local government and thereby create a database listing the various government departments as well as every local person. The mayor of a local government will make a decision to utlize the LETS software to facilitate the creation and implementation of "interest-free" community currencies to fund local projects. Then other mayors will beat a path to his/her door asking: "What are you doing and how are you doing it?"
As soon as the first mayor takes action on making the LETS software a part of the infrastructure of the local government, every person and every business in the local area will immediately accept "community currencies" for the payment of any goods and/or services. This fast growth will happen because the mayor will also declare that s/he will also accept "community currencies" for payment of local taxes. During the transition period, the mayor will likely accept a small portion of payment in "interest-free" community currency BUT as the model proves itself s/he will likely increase the ratio of taxes payable with "interest-free" community currencies until one day all taxes will be payable with "interest-free" community currencies.
Readers - do you grasp the bigger picture of understanding that the LETS software can move us from a world of "scarcity" to a world of "abundance" at a very rapid rate - in the not-too-distant-future? In fact, I believe that "Spirit" is currently "At Work" in making this transition from an "immoral" and "evil" and "imperfect" system of "orthodox economics" which favours the "financial elite" to a "moral" and "good" and "perfect" system of "aquarian economics" which enables absolutely everyone to enjoy the "abundance" that the LETS software can create in this world.
Since the real essence of the LETS software is about the creation of "interest-free" currencies by each person who chooses to participate with a local LETSystem the GFS Gifting Program is designed to encourage people to create "interest-free" currencies by "gifting" to others. This may indeed be "Spirit" at work, to accelerate the process of "Furthering LETS Development."
I invite any comments, feedback and input to improve and further develop this concept of "gifting" to give the "LETS" software the "rocket engine" that it needs to boost LETS awareness both locally and globally.....
PS 1:You are invited to read the articles relevant to "barter" and "LETS" at this URL: http://www.cyberclass.net/bartable.htm You can further explore the LETS "community currency" development at the LETS List URL (which happens to have links to LETS everywhere in the world) It is an online database right now, not a document. You can log on and read or print whatever you wish. The LETS List URL was prepared by Chris Hohner, a member of the Peterborough, Ontario, Canada Lets. (Thank you Chris for your work and dedication to "Furthering LETS Development.") The LETS List URL is: http://skyport.com/cheesemelt/letslist Simply use 'guest' as a password and 'guest' as a logon.
PS 2: You are encouraged to share this communication with anyone who will understand and appreciate the very significant fact that the LETS software is the "perfect model of an interest-free banking system."
Furthering the development of Lets (Local Employment Trading System) is a worthy and honourable mission since it promotes the concept of exchanging goods and/or services using complementary "community currencies" - which happen to be "interest-free". LETS seeks the widest exposure in the quickest time. Fellow-LETSers everywhere seek to pay less interest and taxes and they deserve to be rightfully rewarded for service to others. The GFS Gifting Program satisfies each of these needs thereby promoting the concept of abundance for all who choose to "gift" using "community currencies".
How Does It Work ??
(1) Assume a "referrer" (someone you know) gives you a "referral" (potential client) for your business.
(2) Assume that you close a sale with this "referral" and your business is the recipient of an immediate benefit.
(3) Assume this new "referral" becomes a loyal client and ...
(a) qualifies your business for increased one time or repeat earnings and/or residual commissions
(b) refers new clients to your business thereby increasing your profits while reducing your advertising and promotion costs
(c) wishes to express gratitude to the "referrer" for benefits received
(4) Assume your business wishes to show gratitude to:
(a) the "referrer" - the person who made the initial "referral"
(b) the "referral" - the person who is now your regular client
(c) the your growing "network" of new and loyal clients who are directly or indirectly related to the initial "referral"
(5) Assume any person wishes to express gratitude to any other person for any reason......
Why The GFS Gift is Gifted ??
It has been observed that business is commonly conducted by people whose actions leave a perception that they are motivated by one of two motives: (a) that of a self-serving taker or (b) that of a generous server. The GFS Gifting Program permits the grateful recipient of service to recognize and honour the "generous server." The GFS Gifting Program edifies and rewards "service to others" through the action of gifting. "Service to others" is spiritually sound, unselfish, mutually beneficial and much more powerful than "self-service".
To show gratitude for service you are invited to donate a GFS gift to (a) the initial "referrer", (b) the "referral" and (c) to any other person for any other reason.... (Suggested donation - a small percentage of any increased earnings, somewhere between 1% and 10% - depending on the your generosity and the actual benefits received from the exchange or sale.) This gift is exchanged in any "community currency" which is acceptable to both parties involved in the exchange.
How Is The Gift Exchanged ??
The preferred method of exchanging the GFS gift will be with the LETS "community currency" which is commonly traded in local communities. Your business joins the local LETS (if one is not in operation simply create one) and your "community currency" account will be opened for transactions. Simply transfer the gift from your LETS account to the recipient’s LETS account.
Let’s Network the GFS Gifting Program:
As participants with the GFS Gifting Program, both the "referrers" and the "referrals" are invited to reciprocate and offer GFS gifts to each other and then teach the process thereby multiplying and duplicating their efforts.
The GFS Gifting Program is a simple and creative way for businesses (and individuals) to create "community currency" - which just happens to be ‘interest-free" by simply expressing gratitude. This action when networked, will increase sales and profits for all participating businesses. It will also reduce interest and taxes since "community currency" happens to be an "interest-free" currency. The GFS Gifting Program is designed to expedite the process of creating abundance for everyone in local communities - everywhere. If you like this idea "gift" someone today !!
Since "community currency" is equivalent in dollar value to cash with participating businesses, people can support the LETS mission while increasing their purchasing power in their respective local communities. By participating with LETS and using "community currencies" they are progressing towards an "interest-free" economy which will be mutually beneficial to everyone, both locally and globally.
"Spending money is how you really vote in the world. You do it everyday and it determines how the world works. It is far more significant than how you cast your ballot."
Quote by Michael Linton (co-creator of LETS & "community way")
"Serving others is how you really make a difference in the world. You are invited to do it everyday and it determines your prosperity. It is far more spiritual than selfishness"
Quote by Tom J. Kennedy (co-creator of TCN "cell" meetings and the GFS -Grateful For Service - Gifting Program)
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