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23423
... Such clustering is a very bad idea. In the end, it makes it very difficult for people outside the cluster to find something from within the cluster, and it...
Raphael_Manfredi@...
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Aug 1, 2008
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23424
... I vote against this for a Gnutella-oriented DHT. If you want to use bittorrent, you know where to find it. If you want to search for torrent files in...
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Aug 1, 2008
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23425
... Well said. That is exactly what we should aim for as a first step. Once this works openly (with several vendors inter-operating), we'll be able to see how...
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Aug 1, 2008
10:31 pm
23426
... Mojito is a general purpose Java DHT API. It is not really suited to Gnutella, who will often have more than one value per key. That's why I dislike...
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Aug 2, 2008
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23427
... The basic "security" we want in the DHT is to make it harder for spammers to store improper IP:port values under keys. I say "harder", not impossible. ...
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Aug 2, 2008
7:11 am
23428
... Clustering will change the topology of the network. And we should be careful. Large scale simulation is needed before deploy if we are going to do this. ...
vvpng
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Aug 4, 2008
3:35 pm
23429
... torrent file ... want to ... answer ... DHT can ... I guess we come back to the question we argued before: do we want to improve users experience or we...
pwang708
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Aug 4, 2008
4:21 pm
23430
... optimized to do ... nodeIDs, ... be able ... over the ... all the ... you have ... you'll never ... as of ... today and ... recognize ... Perfection is not...
pwang708
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Aug 4, 2008
4:25 pm
23431
... Agreed. However, let us not over-engineer this and keep it simple. Raphael...
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Aug 4, 2008
4:36 pm
23432
... Can you publish the updated list of requirements (in a brand new thread please, this one is becoming messy)? Raphael...
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Aug 4, 2008
4:42 pm
23433
... I agree. Best, Peng...
pwang708
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Aug 4, 2008
5:00 pm
23434
... Please see the post 23418: DHT usage and requirement listshttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_gdf/message/23418 Best, Peng...
pwang708
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Aug 4, 2008
5:03 pm
23435
// Copied from Michael's list of attack scenarios. This is an excellent idea. Let's try to come up with a list of attack scenarios. A couple of suggestions: 1)...
pwang708
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Aug 4, 2008
5:23 pm
23436
... spammers ... impossible. ... I agree. ... another ... I think it is a good idea to store firewalled sources. There are much more firewalled nodes than...
pwang708
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Aug 4, 2008
6:52 pm
23437
... I'd originally imagined this as something that only leaves would do: they'd connect to the same ultrapeers as their friends, or directly to their ultrapeer...
Michael Rogers
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Aug 4, 2008
7:10 pm
23438
Firstoff: thanks for posting the updated list! I have some comments again, though. ... Where's the merit in searching for torrent files over the DHT? A search...
Arne Babenhauserheide
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Aug 4, 2008
7:14 pm
23439
... spammers ... impossible. I agree. To make the discussion easier, I wrote an attack model. Please feel free to edit. The spammers know the DHT protocol...
pwang708
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Aug 4, 2008
7:34 pm
23440
... I assume that full collaboration won't happen. The xfree**** spammers likely won't collaborate with the br***** s***** spammers, and there are still the ...
Arne Babenhauserheide
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Aug 4, 2008
7:41 pm
23441
... spammers likely ... still the ... with the ... mercenaries can ... I agree. So we have several kinds of spammers. Different kinds of spammers may have...
pwang708
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Aug 4, 2008
7:54 pm
23442
... I think that should fit :) Most important is, that they aren't some kind of overfiend, but some of them have vast resources compared with normal users :) ...
Arne Babenhauserheide
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Aug 4, 2008
8:19 pm
23443
... That's great! Keep them coming. :-) ... it's in the ... Yes, we search torrent files as we do for other files. ... compared to ... Good point! I am not...
pwang708
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Aug 4, 2008
9:03 pm
23444
... I'd like to remove #6, #8, #9 and #10 for our first design round. Keeping them in the back of your head is OK, but I don't want to discuss them any further...
Raphael_Manfredi@...
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Aug 5, 2008
11:33 am
23445
... So the search for torrent files can be taken out - it is already included in regular keyword searches. ... I don't know how the "peer exchange protocol"...
Arne Babenhauserheide
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Aug 5, 2008
11:39 am
23446
... Maybe, but most likely not. These are hashes and there are multiple combinations, especially if you share a large amount of files, with all the induced...
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Aug 5, 2008
11:56 am
23447
Please don't forget that DHT is NOT a Gnutella. And instead of developing Gnutella future you wasting time by creating yet another DHT-like protocol... IMHO...
Nikolay Raspopov
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Aug 5, 2008
2:45 pm
23448
... Except for "they are already published stuff" and "there are millions of torrents on the web, mostly organized by cathegory, checked and commented", I ...
Arne Babenhauserheide
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Aug 5, 2008
3:08 pm
23449
... The DHT can supply a missing piece to Gnutella: searches by Hash. It's a big step forward, but that's all it is - one step among many. At least for me. ...
Arne Babenhauserheide
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Aug 5, 2008
3:14 pm
23450
... I need to correct myself here: The download mesh isn't anonymous, but it is completely decentral. Sorry for the wrong wording. Best wishes, Arne -- My...
Arne Babenhauserheide
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Aug 5, 2008
3:15 pm
23451
... Nikolay: we're not developing another DHT-like protocol. The architecture of the DHT is Kademlia-based, and this is a given nobody here is contesting. Now...
Raphael_Manfredi@...
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Aug 5, 2008
3:43 pm
23452
... So you're telling us that a centralized server to which the entire world will publish the SHA1 of all the files they share is better than a DHT? ... ...
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Aug 5, 2008
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