Greetings all, In addition to the insightful posts of Joe (Jovial) and Martin (Heide) the fact that Eusebius was an Arian may in some way and to some extent...
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Countach
countach747
Apr 13, 2005 5:59 am
... People are right to be wary of conjectures. On the other hand, many of the great scholars seemed to entertain a few. Erasmus had his, and Calvin had his...
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sarban
andrewcriddle
Apr 13, 2005 6:00 am
... From: malcolm robertson To: textualcriticism@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:04 PM Subject: [textualcriticism] Re: Mt 28:19 Greetings all, ...
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Jovial
jovial1000
Apr 13, 2005 6:01 am
((((((((( It doesn't seem like Eusebius can be brushed off as merely a lazy quoter. )))))))))) It's not an issue of "brushing off" Eusebius , but of examining...
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Countach
countach747
Apr 13, 2005 6:54 am
... Actually, around about 20 times. ... Those who put stock in these Eusebius quotes say that originally baptism was not part of the original text, any more...
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Wieland Willker
blende7
Apr 13, 2005 6:56 am
... "Bible may return to desert monastery" There can be only one answer, and that is the one by Tischendorf: "But imagine this pack of monks! If I had the...
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Countach
countach747
Apr 13, 2005 8:25 am
... That's funny. Do you have any more context?...
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Wieland Willker
blende7
Apr 13, 2005 2:12 pm
... Not really. I read it once in some old book, perhaps Tregelles. It was in reference to the complete ignorance of the monks (at that time!) with respect to...
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Wieland Willker
blende7
Apr 13, 2005 3:35 pm
The Society for the promotion of the identification of tiny papyrus scraps (SIPS) proudly presents a new contest: The winner will receive the (digital) ...
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Minton, Ron
mintonron
Apr 13, 2005 4:55 pm
The monks should have to pay what the British paid (adjusted to inflation). Ron Minton ... From: Wieland Willker [mailto:willker@...] Sent:...
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Jim West
drjewest
Apr 13, 2005 5:26 pm
... I really hate to sound the gadfly here but I think it only right that the manuscript be returned. Sure, Tischendorf did the world a great favor by...
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SteveBlack
sdbzpzp
Apr 13, 2005 5:26 pm
... I wonder if its right that someone should have to pay to get back something that was stolen from them. Hope you are well. Steve Black Trinity College The...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson_min...
Apr 13, 2005 8:09 pm
... If it was stolen from the monks and the British Library's ownership of it is illegitimate (two distinct inquiries!), I don't see why the monks should have...
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Michael Marlowe
m_d_marlowe
Apr 13, 2005 8:09 pm
... And behave like the custodians of Codex B. And like the foolish owners of the Aleppo codex. Phooey! Why do they want it, anyway? So that scholars will have...
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SteveBlack
sdbzpzp
Apr 13, 2005 8:09 pm
... I wonder if the whole tale of this text's mistreatment (or risk of mistreatment) wasn't something concocted by Tischendorf to justify his theft? Hope you...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Apr 13, 2005 8:10 pm
... From: "Jim West" <jwest@...> To: <textualcriticism@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [textualcriticism] Re:...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Apr 13, 2005 8:10 pm
... From: "SteveBlack" <sdblack@...> To: <textualcriticism@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [textualcriticism] Re:...
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Jim West
drjewest
Apr 14, 2005 6:11 am
... Actually we cannot know that. I am still of the opninon that the present occupants of the Monastary would treat it well. I've met some of them. Maybe...
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Minton, Ron
mintonron
Apr 14, 2005 6:11 am
Was it really stolen? Did the monks themselves steal it? Would they soon sell it to the highest bidders (possibly a page at a time)? Ron Minton ... From:...
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Dan King
dan_rach_car...
Apr 14, 2005 6:14 am
... Just for the record, it's in the BL not the BM (quite different things now, and all mss should be cited BL Add, not BM Add) Anyway, for a great read, get...
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Dave Washburn
davidlwashburn
Apr 14, 2005 6:14 am
... And whether he bought it or stole it is the whole question, isn't it? Seems to me that Steve is assuming we know the answer when we don't. In any case, I...
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Countach
countach747
Apr 14, 2005 6:15 am
... Do we really know it was a theft? Certainly Tischendorf went through involved diplomatic manoeuvres to get hold of it, but Tischendorf never promised its...
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Wieland Willker
blende7
Apr 14, 2005 6:42 am
I think the thread can now be closed, except someone has interesting new facts. The press release states: "The Times of London reported Tuesday an...
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Daniel B. Wallace
csntm@...
Apr 14, 2005 8:07 pm
Actually, Tischendorf did apparently promise to return the codex to the monastery whenever they asked for it. This is on a note he left with the monastery,...
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Dave Washburn
davidlwashburn
Apr 15, 2005 6:06 am
It has always been my understanding that the manuscript being burned when he got there was not Sinaiticus, but another one (I forget which), and when ...
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Minton, Ron
mintonron
Apr 15, 2005 6:07 am
Dan's post does make one think. I remember taking a university course on the history of American Indians. My research paper was on their origin. It is clear...
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Countach
countach747
Apr 15, 2005 6:08 am
... My understanding is that this was a two step process. First he convinced the monastry to send the codex to Cairo. Nine months later he convinced them to...
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Wieland Willker
blende7
Apr 15, 2005 8:08 am
News report: http://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/article.asp?idart=11761 (with historic image) "The text will be transcribed, and translated into English,...
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K. Martin Heide
surfyahu
Apr 15, 2005 8:10 am
Jim West wrote: ... longer ... Actually we cannot know that. I am still of the opninon that the present occupants of the Monastary would treat it well. I've...
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Richard Wilson
richardwilso...
Apr 15, 2005 9:22 am
I am working on the book of Acts for my site that lists the variant readings in the NT (http://www.laparola.net/greco/), and I came across a discrepancy in the...
