... Ok, I looked at this. It reads: TO EIKH EN TISIN ANTIGRAFOIS OU KEITAI OUDE EN TW IOUDAIKW. We don't know what "Ioudaikon" refers to, probably a Gospel ...
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David Robert Palmer
kanakawatut
Apr 1, 2010 8:17 am
That's true. Precious little. We really need images of family 052 for Revelation, that is, minuscules 1678, 1778, 2080. I will order them when I have the...
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heterodoxus
Apr 1, 2010 3:24 pm
In re Matt. 5:22, Wieland wrote:"We don't know what "Ioudaikon" refers to, probably a Gospel similar to Matthew in Aramaic." Or perhaps it's a general...
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Jeff Cate
jjcate
Apr 1, 2010 3:30 pm
If we're making a wish-list, I'd like to see 04, 046, 2053, 2344, 2351, and 2814 in digital form for easier access. Of course, if we're really making a...
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George F Somsel
gfsomsel
Apr 1, 2010 3:44 pm
Jerome seems to have claimed to have translated the "Gospel according to the Hebrews" (or was it a Hebrew version of Matthew which was somewhat different?). ...
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james_snapp_jr
Apr 1, 2010 5:30 pm
At http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/severian_of_gabala_sermon_on_passion_02_trans.htm#2 it looks like Roger Pearse has found support for Mark 15:28 in a...
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Wieland Willker
blende7
Apr 1, 2010 5:49 pm
... clear ... Good find! If we assign this Severian to ca. 400 CE, he is the earliest reference to this verse, next to 024 and 083, both 6th CE. But ... of...
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Wieland Willker
blende7
Apr 1, 2010 6:46 pm
I am currently walking my way through the important minuscule 1582, which has kindly been provided by the VMR/Muenster. I noted that this family 1 member has...
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Larry Swain
theswain
Apr 1, 2010 7:53 pm
I rather agree with Pritz' thrust, but don't think he goes quite far enough. First, though, let me say that Jerome's latter years were spent outside Bethlehem,...
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TeunisV
tvanlopik
Apr 1, 2010 8:01 pm
The Ioudaikon instances are recorded in Huck-Greeven in a Second Apparatus (p. XXXVII), see also p. 285 (Evangelium Nazaraeorum). Compare Aland's Synopsis,...
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james_snapp_jr
Apr 2, 2010 6:44 am
Quick update: Roger Pearse double-checked the reference, after noticing some stylistic incongruity, and now it looks like the Passion-time homily containing...
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Jovial
jovial1000
Apr 2, 2010 6:44 am
There are places where some MSS read "in the IOUDAIKW" it says...., and Jerome makes a similar comment but says "In the Hebrew it says..." So it is not...
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George F Somsel
gfsomsel
Apr 2, 2010 6:46 am
While Jerome makes no explicit claim to have known the Nazarene sect personally, he does, however, make two other claims which have frequently been called into...
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Wieland Willker
blende7
Apr 2, 2010 9:10 am
... Thanks for the update! Well, yes, right, the canon table notes it under the Lk/Mk agreements. So we can bring this down to the early 4th CE. Nevertheless I...
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james_snapp_jr
Apr 2, 2010 1:43 pm
Wieland, Hm; I remember reading the textual commentary but I must've forgotten that part (which I re-read just now.) Something occurs to me: suppose a bold...
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schmuel
praxean
Apr 2, 2010 4:48 pm
Hi Folks, Mark 15:28 (KJB) And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors. Luke 22:37 For I say unto you, that this...
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Jeff Cate
jjcate
Apr 2, 2010 4:54 pm
Interesting discussion on an interesting variant.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Instead of wondering if a copyist...
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Larry Swain
theswain
Apr 2, 2010 6:16 pm
... Since IOUDAIKOS means "Jewish", when referring to language, it simply means "Jewish language". It isn't a far stretch to posit it as Hebrew. Nor is it a...
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Jeff Cate
jjcate
Apr 2, 2010 6:36 pm
Correction: In my last paragraph, I meant to say "IRATUS" on the Latin side of Bezae, not "MISERTUS." --Jeff Cate, Riverside, CA ... From: "Jeff Cate"...
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Larry Swain
theswain
Apr 2, 2010 6:36 pm
... Pritz, Ray A. Nazarene Jewish Christianity : From the End of the New Testament Period Until Its Disappearance in the Fourth Century, p 51. Jerusalem:...
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George F Somsel
gfsomsel
Apr 2, 2010 8:36 pm
Here's another quotation from Pritz Among ancient writers the only Church Father specifically to connect the Nazarene sect to GH is Jerome. This he does in...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Apr 3, 2010 7:54 am
"Although Eusebius does mention GH by name, it is a moot point whether he actually saw the gospel. [6]" 6. He never directly quotes from it, but see the Syriac...
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hglogowski
Apr 3, 2010 12:47 pm
At the risk of 'drizzling(sic) on the parade' (the very welcome news of 'New Posting of Chicago Manuscripts at CSNTM') I nevertheless thought it timely to draw...
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Jeff Cate
jjcate
Apr 3, 2010 12:51 pm
Regarding mss of Rev, I also found digital images of p18, p24, p47 (part), p98, and p115 at: http://chrles.multiply.com/photos I'm not sure whose website that...
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Jovial
jovial1000
Apr 4, 2010 7:03 am
Larry said... (((((((((((((((((( Hebrew. Nor is it a far stretch to posit it as Aramaic, and so far as I know, the ancient authors don't differentiate these...
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Jovial
jovial1000
Apr 4, 2010 7:06 am
Yes, there are places where Jerome quotes directly from GH. He states in comparing the Greek to the Hebrew of Matthew 6:11 that in GH, it says "machar",...
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Richard Godwin
metaschematai
Apr 4, 2010 7:06 am
Do you have P18, POxy 1079 (Rev. 1:1-6)? Richard....
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heterodoxus
Apr 4, 2010 1:10 pm
RG asked: "Do you have P18, POxy 1079 (Rev. 1:1-6)?" Virtually, yes. If I wasn't able to read it, I wouldn't be pointing out what P18 doesn't contain, like...
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Jeff Hargis
teacherguy1961
Apr 5, 2010 3:46 pm
Thanks for the reference, although the team from CSNTM did not photograph the Goodspeed Collection at the University of Chicago (which includes GA 2427)....
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Wieland Willker
blende7
Apr 6, 2010 6:18 pm
Martin Fassnacht has made available images of 10 manuscripts from Turin/Italy in the VMR. These are: - 015 (the parts of the manuscript which are in Turin) -...
