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Re: [textualcriticism] Re: Where to study textual criticism

On 2006-08-25 kl. 23.25 Bart Ehrman wrote:

> . In any event, if what you want to do with
> your life is collate manuscripts of 1 Peter or to spend three years
> studying
> only the textual tradition of Galatians, and you aren't interested in
> broader related issues (historical, literary, religious) - then UNC
> is not
> the place for you!

I could not resist responding to these lines, since, I happened to have
collated all Greek continuous-text MSS of Jude and I felt a little bit
"accused" although I am sure Bart did not intend so: But what if one is
interested in all of the manuscripts of 1 Peter *and* the broader
related issues? ...

If students do not get enough familiarity with the manuscripts in their
own right, and spend time with them, yes even get passionate about
them, good ideas of "broader related issues" might result in imposing
historical contexts on them in which they don't belong. I am not
saying that students should not be interested in the broader issues,
but I kind of like the idea of deep engagement with the primary
sources, in order to make a firm foundation for one's thesis/theses. I
hope this is what Bart means when he says "broad and deep at the same
time," (this is what his Doktorvater Bruce M. Metzger was in relation
to the manuscripts, "broad and deep") because it is of no use to
present interesting theses with broad implications, while at the same
time not paying due attention to the primary evidence, paid with blood
sweath and tears, over the never ending stream of microfilms,
facsimiles, apparatuses ... or better, papyri, parchment and paper...


Tommy Wasserman
Centre for Theology and Religious Studies
Lund University
Sweden

Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:00 pm

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This may be the wrong place to ask, but I'm wondering if anyone can give some input on what postgraduate schools have good programs for NT textual criticism....
Peter Gurry
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Peter, Consider the advice concerning doctoral reseach in textual editing and textual criticism offered by the ITSEE in Birmingham: ...
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I have a similar question to Peter's. I am interested in good graduate program (Master's and Ph.D. degrees) for NT textual criticism. I am open to either a...
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... Within the British system there is no such thing as 'a program' from one perspective, even though institutions and supervisors have different positions....
Peter Williams
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I suspect that if you want to get the full Byzantine priority perspective the place you want to go is Southeastern Baptist Seminary. There, you could study...
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Peter, Personally, I think in NT TC, you'd be pressed to do better than studying with Pete Williams at Aberdeen. TML _____ From:...
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I can't comment on my own institution, but Birmingham, UK, is clearly a centre of excellence in this regard. Best wishes, Peter Williams ... Peter Williams ...
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As Tommy Wasserman has noted, Professor David Parker has an excellent program at the Univ. of Birmingham, Great Britain (here an option of not being full-time...
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Dear Peter Gurry, I am assuming that your work at Moody Bible Institute was at the undergraduate level. I am not that familar with their curriculum but I...
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... Just a minor correction- it's Wake Forest. Jim -- Jim West, ThD http://web.infoave.net/~jwest -- Biblical Studies Resources ...
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Holger Stuttwolf is the new head in Muenster....
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My goodness, I was not expecting such a big response. Thanks very much for the input. I will keep your suggestions in mind over the next year. Peter...
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Peter and Malcolm, Malcolm has some good suggestions below—go ahead and write to them—, but you should know that Barbara Aland has retired. Moreover, I...
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I must say that this is by far the most interesting list of suggestions I’ve seen. But may I ask, why you specifically recommend that someone not study at a...
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Obviously before going somewhere for doctoral studies you should do a lot of research to find out about the particular strengths of the institution and its...
Peter Williams
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... good reason not to apply [at Birmingham]"<< This raises the question of Latin textual criticism. Inasmuch as there are more Latin mss than Greek, what is...
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To follow up on P. Williams's note re: textual criticism in British universities. To my knowledge, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill is the only...
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Bart Ehrman wrote: I see this as an enormous benefit for the textual critic. For too many years, too many textual critics had a myopic focus on the problems of...
Dr. K.Martin Heide
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... It is now general practice in all the best UK universities to require a postgraduate Masters degree prior to a PhD except from mature students who can...
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... I could not resist responding to these lines, since, I happened to have collated all Greek continuous-text MSS of Jude and I felt a little bit "accused"...
Tommy Wasserman
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Yes, I agree with this. I've spent many hours collating manuscripts! When I was a doctoral student that's what I wanted to do for my dissertation. But Prof....
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Howdy, I could not resist commenting upon this thread! So far all of the recommendations as concerns acquiring an education in the area of Textual Criticism...
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Aug 30, 2006
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The constant emphasis here upon some institutions or professors being pagan and thus somehow disqualified from teaching a "believing" scholar troubles me....
George F Somsel
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"I must say that this is by far the most interesting list of suggestions I've seen." Dr. Ehrman, where would you suggest studying?...
Peter Gurry
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The big decision is whether to study in the UK or the US. The degree requirements are very very different for the two locations. In the UK, doing a PhD means...
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I personally would take another approach. It is one thing to know where centers of excellence are, but it is another, what you are interested in. First of all...
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