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RE: [textualcriticism] Re: Where to study textual criticism

To follow up on P. Williams's note re: textual criticism in British
universities. To my knowledge, the University of North Carolina at Chapel
Hill is the only research university in the U.S. where a student can study
with someone who has been active in the field of textual criticism. That
may change, if Kim Haines Eitzen begins accepting students to work with her
at Cornell (none so far, I believe) or if AnneMarie Luijendijk starts taking
students at Princeton (about that, I don't know). Are there others?

Sticking with UNC, doing a degree here means working more broadly in
Religious Studies, and within Religious Studies, it means becoming
proficient in the broader area of Ancient Mediterranean Religions. In other
words, this is not a degree in the narrow field of textual criticism, or
even in New Testament per se. The NT here is seen as some of the literature
of early Christianity, and early Christianity is seen as one of the
religions of the Roman world (along with Judaism and so-called "pagan"
religions). It is generally understood, here, that if you want to know
about early Christianity, or the NT within early Christianity, or textual
criticism within the field of NT studies - you need to know about the
broader context, at every point.

I see this as an enormous benefit for the textual critic. For too
many years, too many textual critics had a myopic focus on the problems of
the NT textual tradition without realizing the broader implications (and
evidence!) from nearby fields (exegesis, history of theology, social history
of early Christianity, etc.). In any event, if what you want to do with
your life is collate manuscripts of 1 Peter or to spend three years studying
only the textual tradition of Galatians, and you aren't interested in
broader related issues (historical, literary, religious) - then UNC is not
the place for you! But if you want a more rounded education that is
contextually oriented, broad and deep at the same time, this is a good
place.

Students can, of course, do specialized dissertations here, and have
done so over the years (in a range of areas, not just textual criticism).
To see the kinds of issues that can be addressed, look at the books (revised
dissertations), all of them important I think, of Rod Mullen, Kim
Haines-Eitzen, and Wayne Kannaday.

It is also possible to do a more strictly NT degree at Duke (cross
town neighbor/rival; the degree there is more traditionally NT exegesis) and
to do a dissertation on textual criticism with me (jointly supervised). At
least that's been done before.

-- Bart Ehrman

Bart D. Ehrman
James A. Gray Professor
Department of Religious Studies
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill








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This may be the wrong place to ask, but I'm wondering if anyone can give some input on what postgraduate schools have good programs for NT textual criticism....
Peter Gurry
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Peter, Consider the advice concerning doctoral reseach in textual editing and textual criticism offered by the ITSEE in Birmingham: ...
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I have a similar question to Peter's. I am interested in good graduate program (Master's and Ph.D. degrees) for NT textual criticism. I am open to either a...
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... Within the British system there is no such thing as 'a program' from one perspective, even though institutions and supervisors have different positions....
Peter Williams
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I suspect that if you want to get the full Byzantine priority perspective the place you want to go is Southeastern Baptist Seminary. There, you could study...
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Peter, Personally, I think in NT TC, you'd be pressed to do better than studying with Pete Williams at Aberdeen. TML _____ From:...
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I can't comment on my own institution, but Birmingham, UK, is clearly a centre of excellence in this regard. Best wishes, Peter Williams ... Peter Williams ...
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As Tommy Wasserman has noted, Professor David Parker has an excellent program at the Univ. of Birmingham, Great Britain (here an option of not being full-time...
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Dear Peter Gurry, I am assuming that your work at Moody Bible Institute was at the undergraduate level. I am not that familar with their curriculum but I...
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... Just a minor correction- it's Wake Forest. Jim -- Jim West, ThD http://web.infoave.net/~jwest -- Biblical Studies Resources ...
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Holger Stuttwolf is the new head in Muenster....
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My goodness, I was not expecting such a big response. Thanks very much for the input. I will keep your suggestions in mind over the next year. Peter...
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Peter and Malcolm, Malcolm has some good suggestions below—go ahead and write to them—, but you should know that Barbara Aland has retired. Moreover, I...
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I must say that this is by far the most interesting list of suggestions I’ve seen. But may I ask, why you specifically recommend that someone not study at a...
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Obviously before going somewhere for doctoral studies you should do a lot of research to find out about the particular strengths of the institution and its...
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... good reason not to apply [at Birmingham]"<< This raises the question of Latin textual criticism. Inasmuch as there are more Latin mss than Greek, what is...
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To follow up on P. Williams's note re: textual criticism in British universities. To my knowledge, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill is the only...
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Bart Ehrman wrote: I see this as an enormous benefit for the textual critic. For too many years, too many textual critics had a myopic focus on the problems of...
Dr. K.Martin Heide
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... It is now general practice in all the best UK universities to require a postgraduate Masters degree prior to a PhD except from mature students who can...
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... I could not resist responding to these lines, since, I happened to have collated all Greek continuous-text MSS of Jude and I felt a little bit "accused"...
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Yes, I agree with this. I've spent many hours collating manuscripts! When I was a doctoral student that's what I wanted to do for my dissertation. But Prof....
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Howdy, I could not resist commenting upon this thread! So far all of the recommendations as concerns acquiring an education in the area of Textual Criticism...
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The constant emphasis here upon some institutions or professors being pagan and thus somehow disqualified from teaching a "believing" scholar troubles me....
George F Somsel
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"I must say that this is by far the most interesting list of suggestions I've seen." Dr. Ehrman, where would you suggest studying?...
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The big decision is whether to study in the UK or the US. The degree requirements are very very different for the two locations. In the UK, doing a PhD means...
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I personally would take another approach. It is one thing to know where centers of excellence are, but it is another, what you are interested in. First of all...
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