From: miguel de castro henriques <migcah2003@...>
Subject: RE: [talk-about-sy] Concerned About My Boyfriend
To: talk-about-sahaja-yoga@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 3 July, 2009, 4:50 PM

(( Sorry I emailed this out, meant to post it to board. Been a long time since I been in a Yahoo Group but alas, all I am doing out of concern for my boyfriend and yet he can't even see that. )) I've been with my boyfriend for over a year now and he's always had a picture of that Shri Mataji in his car that I found off but never thought much about. He would also go to the Sahaja Yoga meeting every Sunday morning but I thought it was yoga.. Just some simple stretches. Well Sahaja Yoga is not a Yoga - just a recent new age cult made in India. A syncretic melting pot of indian superstitions including some version of anglo-christianism. And Yoga is not simply Pilates, ie, some stretches, or some western version of "easy" Hatha Yoga.  Traditional and classic Yoga is very old, has a tremendous dignity, and it's the foundation of all our philosophies. It's not until a few weeks ago I started to become concerned when I bought a ticket to Italy and refused to let me come. Well, is that love? From what he was describing it sounded like a cult (Staying at some convent where I am unwelcomed and just meditating) but I couldn't fathom someone of his ambition and intellect succumbing to a cult... Well, actually and suprisingly cults absorb surprisingly intelligent people. An the SY cult is no exception- (A convent? SY disaproves catholics, and in Itlay convents are all catholics) Heck, I didn't even imagine such cults exist in this day and age. For the student of History and Sociology and Culture this day and age in many respects is not particularly better than any other day and age. It's even been called the Rise of The Age of the Barbarians With Technology. Looking this all up online... Well, I'm scared. I wish he was lying to me. He went on a vegetarian kick for a few weeks which I assume is the result of this organization. It isn't. The Founder - Mataji -used to eat loads of meat. SY does not advocates vegetarianism. He has been alcohol free for over a year now (Which he said was his own decision but I don't know anymore). Alcool is frowned upon by the organization. It's even one of its bêtes noires. You drink, doesn't matter if moderately or not? - then you're possessed. Some evil spirit is using you for his her drinking. That's their line about alcool. Mataji even said that Jesus didn't drink wine, just grape juice. Amazing, uh? He meditates in the morning and at night. He has that picture in his car and he's always listening to Indian music and chanting He is following the set of rules of the cult. Much of that chanting has psychological effects: it helps to achieve the zombie effect. People are supposed to hear loads of that cult music - which is by no means the best indian music. It's indoctrinating, gives a pseudo.sense of peace and love. It acts like a tranquilizer BTW Mataji, the founder, is being treated as a psycothic and also as a diabetic. Ironically enough, she claimed that diabetes was caused becasuse the person was "possessed".  (Again, I never thought much about it until now). He hates my music, listens less and less to his own music, hates pretty much all TV and movies. Well, much of all TV and movies is very weak. It's part of mass culture, so it's very poor. In the USA as well as everywhere. try Joahn Sebastian Bach and see what happens. Has a nasty view on America and Americans and a hatred towards Jews... Ask him what is an American. The natives? The european emmigrants? Black people? From which part of Africa? Animists? Muslims? Fetichists? WASPs? America is a mosaic. There are no americans. It's a fiction. So he hates a fiction. What is there, in the States as well as in Europe,  is a complex mosaic of cultures The list is endless. Pretty much everything being preached by this organization he is picking up on. Yes. They aptky clone with their casettes and DVDs their followers' minds. They end up having mono-thinking, party-line thinking. Very bovine, indeed. SY privileges the Collective, so it kills originality, the individual, which is considered Ego. I don't know who I'm in love with anymore. Excuse if I am brutal, but just consider that sometimes we fall in love with the wrong person.  Am I in love with someone who I thought was a unique individual or just another drone? Both. And we may err, we may make mistakes. Even constant mistakes.  At first I was upset about him going to Italy without me as I feel we should be traveling together but now I'm just worried. Well, when people are in love they don't stand to be separated. They want to be all the time together. So,it seems that though you were in love, he no longer was. Mataji ridicules the expression to "fall in love". He claims to be a Mormon (Which as a Christian I have reservations about but believe we can have a happy, successful relationship) Mormonism is a dangerous cult. If you believe that you can have a succesful relationship with a mormon you're a bit naive. In Mormonism a man is supposed to have several wives.  Which is OK, if you agree with the deal..  but yet he's meditating to this woman. Which proves that SY is not a Yoga. In Yoga you don't meditate to somedoby, or over somebody, or for somebody.  When I asked him about it the other day he got all defensive. I believe he did that because  he fears there is some cracked thing with his scene. Otherwise, if he was feeling ok with his cult, he would have an open stand, an easy aproach. It shows he is not entilerly confident. But how could he be? Moomons, and all cult followers are over-paranoid. I don't know what to do. For the moment let it be. Don't fight back. Don't try to correct him. Or show him what and how to act. Just be yourself. I was up all night last night looking this all up and sending him some articles and an email pouring out my heart and when I asked him if he read the emails he said no. He refuses to even look at my emails so I told him that the least he can do is read what I wrote him and to not call me until he does. Of course that's the least he could do. Someone who does'nt read the mails of his lover, and consequently doesn't answer them? What to think? Crazy. Pathological. No way. Even insulting. Now he's saying I just want to judge him and argue which I feared he would blame something else and just run away from me but at the same time I don't know what else to do as I cannot stand idly by and watch him lose his identity to this cult. It seems he had already lost part of his identity to mormonism. So it's a double loss to two cults: SY and Mormon. It's hard. But for the moment he in a state of immersion within the cult. That's very well said. He is imbibed to the bone, with the burning neophyte's zeal on full swing. His mind has been fagocited by the tentacles of the Collective Insect. What to do? I am affraid there are not formula answers. Just wait. Be patient. Stay happy. Have fun! Don't get involved with his mystic melodrama. Most upsetting is how he judges me all the time and my beliefs while he doing all this. SY is ultra-judgemental, full of Do's and Don'ts , full of a thousand tiny  rules, that's why they were atly caractherized as fundamentalists.  He refuses to buy certain clothes because they were made in sweatshops hehehe but yet he is giving his entire soul over to this woman who uses child labor to build her homes and robs parents of their children to abuse them at some boarding school. Never expect rational behaviour from an involved SY follower. Anyway Mataji did not use child labour to build her homes, just adult labour.  As upset as I get at him I try to remember he's a victim Well, playing the upset role is not very productive. In part he's a victim, on other hand he is trading with a deal of his own.  and have been standing by but I feel my only option is to draw a line in the sand. Absolutely. Stand by, keep your part of the bridge open, but firmly be yourself. All I'm asking right now is for him to read my emails after which I'm sure there will be no change but I will refuse to hear his Indian music, chantings or anything of this Sahaja Yoga and even refuse to enter his car unless he puts that picture away which I doubt he'd do but I don't know... At this moment it will be useless to ask him to remove that photo. The fat and psychotic Lady is his divinity, now. Do you have a car? have fun with the photos you put in your car. Fill it with a lot of photos of fatties - guys and dolls. Old and young. Or collect an album with super-fatties.  I just don't know what to do and I'm scared of losing who I feel to be my true love but even more scared of him losing himself to this cult. Sorry, maybe he is not your true love. I believe that you're too young and a bit naive. But I believe that you're smart enough and kind-kearted and will find whatever you're looking for. Otherwise, we never loose no one.Because no one belongs to us. Ad we don't belong to no one. So analyse that "loosing". Were you owning him or somnething? Any ideas? Give space. Take time. Stand to your own convictions. Follow your feminine intuition and your reason. Just be yourself. Use humour. Adopt a cat. Learn to fly. Practice Tai-Chi. Learn french. Change hair-style. Buy a nice cotton dress. Swim a lot. Ride in a bike. Go to your favourite concerts. Go to a party. Play Bach, or play back. But never deviate from this: your SELF. That's your goal, my goal, our goal. Our no goal too. Best wishes, Miguel Windows Liveâ„¢: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Yahoo! recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8.