... From: "Jeffrey B. Gibson" <jgibson000@...> To: Synoptic-L <Synoptic-L@...> Subject: MacDonald on Homer and GMark List Members might like to...
Mark Goodacre
M.S.Goodacre@...
Feb 1, 2001 10:44 pm
5619
I'm sure other subscribers to Synoptic-L will be as excited as I am to see this article in the latest _New Testament Studies_: Stephen C. Carlson, "Clement of...
Mark Goodacre
M.S.Goodacre@...
Feb 2, 2001 5:28 pm
5620
... If we accept the existence of Q (which I'm not sure about), then perhaps we should distinguish between 'original Q'; the document actually existing in NT...
RSBrenchley@...
Feb 2, 2001 8:40 pm
5621
... This is explained a bit in Kloppenborg Verbin's EXCAVATING Q (2000): 91-101, who endorses the criteria, with some adjustments, proposed by Petros...
Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Feb 2, 2001 10:43 pm
5622
... Thank you very much, Mark. I could not have done it without the encouragement and comments from the good readers of Synoptic-L. Hopefully, Synoptic-L will...
Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Feb 2, 2001 10:54 pm
5623
... These are helpful questions and if I may venture an opinion, I think a distinction needs to be made between (a) material unique to one of the evangelists...
Mark Goodacre
M.S.Goodacre@...
Feb 3, 2001 12:05 am
5624
... Robert, I think it is much more difficult than is commonly supposed. In fact the triple tradition, which includes a passion narrative, is all material...
Brian E. Wilson
brian@...
Feb 3, 2001 12:15 am
5625
All the arguments I've seen for the independence of Thomas from the Synoptics seem to presuppose the 2DH. Are there any studies that don't assume the 2DH as a...
Ken Olson
kaolson@...
Feb 4, 2001 8:52 pm
5626
... Not only does the independence of Thomas seem to depend upon the 2DH, but the overconfidence that one frequently encounters among supporters of the 2DH...
John C. Poirier
poirier@...
Feb 4, 2001 9:51 pm
5627
... As often, Ken, you ask an interesting question. I can't think of anyone who argues for the independence of Thomas who does not accept the 2ST, but then...
Mark Goodacre
M.S.Goodacre@...
Feb 5, 2001 1:11 am
5628
Ken Olson wrote -- ... For advocates of any documentary hypothesis not positing "Q", would not the origin of Thomas be irrelevant to understanding the...
Brian E. Wilson
brian@...
Feb 5, 2001 8:17 am
5629
... Would the fact that the bulk of Thomas is preserved only in a Coptic translation complicate your inquiry? Stephen Carlson -- Stephen C. Carlson...
Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Feb 7, 2001 2:07 am
5630
... I had floated the idea on Crosstalk and GThomas a long time ago, that it is easier to maintain Thomas's independence under the Griesbach hypothesis than...
Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Feb 7, 2001 2:09 am
5631
... I think you're right about this. There are at least two cases I know of where, on the 2DH, Thomas would appear to contain Matthean redactions. Neither of...
Ken Olson
kaolson@...
Feb 7, 2001 4:23 am
5632
Brian Wilson wrote -- ... Stephen Carlson replied -- ... Not really, because the sort of arguments I had in mind for showing that Thomas is not independent...
Brian E. Wilson
brian@...
Feb 7, 2001 10:07 am
5633
Stephen C. Carlson wrote: "I suspect . . . that an independent Thomas is important for propping up the Q hypothesis." My first response to the GThomas thread...
John C. Poirier
poirier@...
Feb 7, 2001 10:18 am
5634
... That's interesting, I had mainly been looking at the Thomas-Mark- Luke parallels. As for Matthew and Thomas, I'm aware that some scholars (not the...
Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Feb 8, 2001 2:12 am
5635
... What about SABBATON in Thomas 27 = POxy 1, lines 9-10? Stephen Carlson -- Stephen C. Carlson mailto:scarlson@... Synoptic...
Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Feb 8, 2001 2:16 am
5636
... It's an interesting question and Steve Davies and I had an interesting discussion about it in the good old days when he was active on the old Crosstalk....
Mark Goodacre
M.S.Goodacre@...
Feb 8, 2001 2:38 am
5637
... For the Coptic material, a couple of Baarda's articles may be of interest: Baarda, T., "Chose" or "collected": Concerning an Aramaism in logion 8 of the...
Mark Goodacre
M.S.Goodacre@...
Feb 8, 2001 2:43 am
5638
Brian Wilson wrote -- ... Stephen Carlson asked -- ... Stephen, This is hardly a word not in usage in Greek, surely! It is found about 100 times in the...
Brian E. Wilson
brian@...
Feb 8, 2001 9:05 am
5639
... Stephen, I suggest two approaches. (1) If we could establish from its gnosticizing tendencies that GTh is likely to have been a second century product,...
Ron Price
ron.price@...
Feb 8, 2001 10:10 am
5640
Brian Wilson wrote -- ... Mark Goodacre replied -- ... Mark, I think you may be missing the point. In the synoptic gospels, the words EPHPHATHA, CORBAN, RAKA,...
Brian E. Wilson
brian@...
Feb 8, 2001 2:49 pm
5641
... Although it was not completely clear what you meant by "no Aramaic words which [sic] were not in usage in Greek" (had you meant to introduce a restrictive...
Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Feb 8, 2001 2:50 pm
5642
========== This person, Stevan L. Davies, has published an argument that Mark is dependent on Thomas. My critique of his argument was that the similarities he...
dgentil@...
Feb 8, 2001 6:07 pm
5643
Stephen Carlson wrote (concerning GThomas and the Synoptics) -- ... Especially when priority did not happen. Why should not the three synoptic gospels and...
Brian E. Wilson
brian@...
Feb 8, 2001 6:42 pm
5644
... In general, this is a valid possibility. I'm just not aware of what evidence exists to show it in the particular case of Thomas and the synoptics. For...
Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Feb 8, 2001 8:04 pm
5645
Stephen Carlson wrote -- ... Stephen, I am not convinced that apparent redaction of Mark by Matthew can be used to show any positive documentary link of any...
Brian E. Wilson
brian@...
Feb 9, 2001 2:27 pm
5646
... From: "Brian E. Wilson" <brian@...> To: <Synoptic-L@...> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 8:09 AM Subject: [Synoptic-L] GThomas and the...
Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Feb 9, 2001 3:19 pm
5647
... I would really appreciate it if you would not quote fragments of my sentences out of their original contexts to produce some imagined error that you need...
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