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  • Category: Communist
  • Founded: Jun 5, 2005
  • Language: English
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15920 guarnot
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Feb 12, 2012
4:48 am
Plus, isn't that where Rose Nylund (Betty White's character) on "The Golden Girls" was from? ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
15921 Tom
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Feb 12, 2012
6:13 pm
Oh bummer! An acquaintance of mine who went there would be shocked to know that such clowns were among his venerated "Olafians"....
15922 Tom
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Feb 12, 2012
6:18 pm
So this was mostly a battle around activism, style of work and other organizational issues, not over any political or programmatic questions....
15923 Tom
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Feb 12, 2012
6:24 pm
Wikipedia says they wound up in the FSP, which seems to ring a bell. Did they have any involvement with them within the SWP before they left?...
15924 Tom
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Feb 12, 2012
6:46 pm
... quite so, I knew Rita through Central America activism when I lived in Seattle in the 80s, although apparently she and Ed had broken up as she was no...
15925 David
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Feb 12, 2012
7:19 pm
I had a delightful 1 hour discussion on the phone with Rita as she was donating some papers from Ed to the Holt Labor Library.j She's still quite active. I...
15926 Paul Lefrak
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Feb 12, 2012
9:17 pm
I thought it was Carleton College (also in Northfield, MN) which produced Barnes and a circle around him. I also seem to remember the Northites made this out...
15927 Arthur Maglin
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Feb 12, 2012
9:44 pm
This is a follow up on what (little) is happening with the P&F unity initiative. This appeared on the Socialist Tea blog: Acheiving Left Unity FEBRUARY 5, 2012...
15928 Louis Proyect
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Feb 12, 2012
9:55 pm
... Are there any members of the P&F Party except hardened revolutionaries, either belonging to parties or not?...
15929 David
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Feb 12, 2012
10:12 pm
Yes, Louis, there are. The majority of members are not members of any particular group. Of course you have to look at two ways: 1. Regitrants. About 45,000 I...
15930 Mark A. Lause
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Feb 12, 2012
10:20 pm
Calling for unity can be a call for unity . . . or it can be a meaningless mantra. PFP has been calling for this for a long time. Every once in a while...
15931 Tom
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Feb 12, 2012
10:30 pm
You missed the uptake. We all know about Carleton College and Barnes. When the factoid was made that there's another college in the same town, St. Olaf's,...
15932 Arthur Maglin
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Feb 12, 2012
10:32 pm
As I see it, the issue involved was a belief that the Dobbs-Kerry leadership was abstentionist, that it emphasized propaganda over exploiting openings for...
15933 Tom
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Feb 12, 2012
10:35 pm
When I first starting getting the Militant, but before I joined the YSA, I remember reading circa March 68 this two page sectarian polemic against the Peace &...
15934 Thomas Bias
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Feb 12, 2012
10:40 pm
Rita was expelled and was a member of the Fourth Internationalist Tendency, which is how I got to know her. However, I think she had broken up with Ed long...
15935 Thomas Bias
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Feb 12, 2012
10:45 pm
Unfortunately, the FIT had no line in the Labor Party, as the FIT had ceased to exist five years before the Labor Party's founding convention. However, it's...
15936 David
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Feb 12, 2012
10:47 pm
In 1968 the P&F was "new leftist" at best. Only Tom Condit, who died 2 years ago and former SPer in NY, opposed the nomination of Eldridge Cleaver for the Pres...
15937 David
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Feb 12, 2012
10:51 pm
Point taken. It was that as many went into Solidarity then...I don't know if Frank did, but Steve Bloom remains a member, they 'hung out together'. During the...
15938 Arthur Maglin
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Feb 12, 2012
11:01 pm
Murry Weiss was moving towards the FSP at the end of his life. He had his own small group at that point. FSP sells one of his last writings and honors him as...
15939 Arthur Maglin
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Feb 12, 2012
11:27 pm
The Northites still peddle their pamphlet about the Carleton "FBI agents" along with other similar stuff. ...
15940 Adam Richmond
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Feb 13, 2012
12:45 am
I agree with this assessment, but would have to extend it here to California. What does the PFP party mean here in California. Mostly it is an afterthought, or...
15941 Tom
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Feb 13, 2012
1:14 am
A colleague of mine, Dave L., a former YSAer, ran for Congress from Berkeley on P&F in the early 90s and got 18,000 votes....
15942 Mark A. Lause
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Feb 13, 2012
3:25 am
Somebody on here was talking about the PFP unity initiative some years back and I had encountered them enough to approach them. They told me that I'd be on...
15943 Adam Richmond
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Feb 13, 2012
3:37 am
Per wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California%27s_9th_congressional_district Peace and Freedom Dave Linn 10,472 4.6% ... From: Tom <tomcod2@...>...
15944 dfag30 Offline Send Email Feb 13, 2012
10:03 am
Murry Weiss was not just moving towards" the Freedom Socialist Party, he was definitely a member of the FSP, coming in via their "regroupment" Comittee for a...
15945 David
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Feb 13, 2012
8:18 pm
I was at, along with other SOers, at the first meeting of the NOC (National Organizing Committee) held in SF about 2 years ago. Maybe a little longer. It's how...
15946 Arthur Maglin
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12:10 am
Thanks for the correction. I believe I got the impression that he died before he joined by a misreading of some reference to him of the FSP website. Murry was...
15947 Philip Ferguson
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1:41 am
I think so. The first things I thought of when I read Mark L's comments about Scandinavian-Minnesotans was Marge Gunderson (the sheriff in Fargo) and the Rose...
15948 Mark A. Lause
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3:46 am
Ah, I see, David. I obviously wasn't there for the discussions you were having with the PFP, and therefore would not suggest that your memory of the...
15949 David
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3:13 pm
No, Mark, I'm giving you a very technical response as I was at two of the meetings and the "P&F" meme didn't come up in the way you describe it. And, IMO, this...
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