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  • Members: 187
  • Category: Communist
  • Founded: Jun 5, 2005
  • Language: English
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Reply Message #14642 of 16073 |
Is CP spawning LaRouche like spin-off?

I was recently startled to see a sophomoric sectarian redbaiting rant on FB
against Carl Davidson railing against him for being being a stooge of
imperialism because of his alleged adoption of that "imperialist ideology",
pragmatism. I was even more startled when I learned that this rant came not from
a Healyite sectarian but from an ostensible member of the CPUSA. Davidson
informs us they are from a "mini-faction" of the CP. Nonetheless they seem like
provacateurs headed down the road of NCLC. Below is a link to the FB page
referenced above together with a link to a faux CP page they have put up which
just reeks of paper overed Glen Beck.

http://www.facebook.com/notes/sally-robbins/carl-davidsons-pragmatism-from-pol-p\
ot-to-barack-obama/180569418657890


http://cpusanationalboard.blogspot.com/2010/03/cpusa-national-committee-member-m\
ark.html






Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:40 am

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The FBI maintains a website called The Vault for documents that have been released via Freedom of Information Act inquiries, court orders, and the like. ...
Arthur Maglin
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Apr 10, 2011
12:30 am

Interesting. Thanks, Arthur. Though I suspect the documents I've downloaded on Henry A. Wallace may have given my computer the clap. :-) ML [Non-text portions...
Mark A. Lause
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Apr 10, 2011
2:19 am

I heard that the Marcy group thought that the SWP should have supported Wallace on some basis in 1948?...
Tom
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Apr 11, 2011
4:28 am

Possible, I suppose. Were the Marceyites a distinctive group within the SWP that early? Certainly, such a sane, useful stance--as supporting Wallace...
Mark A. Lause
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Apr 11, 2011
5:57 am

I would argue they were not a distinctive group until 1956. Copeland, if you read his work on China, attack Pablo and the Euro-FIers on this basis, something...
David
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Apr 11, 2011
4:16 pm

Yeah, but weren't they basically the Buffalo branch of the SWP? My take on this is in part based on a brief personal conversation I had with Copeland at the...
Tom
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Apr 12, 2011
4:02 am

Copeland also wrote an excellent pamphlet in the early 80s, "US Imperialism, Then and Now" in which he deconstructed US colonialism re the Phillipines, Hawaii,...
Tom
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Apr 12, 2011
4:12 am

Sam Marcy took the entire Buffalo branch and a small number of people in other branches who used to be in Buffalo. Well into the 1960s the "cult of the...
Arthur Maglin
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Apr 12, 2011
4:58 pm

The branches WWP took with them besides Buffalo were Eire, PA (GE workers), Youngstown (Steel, including the Weinstein guy who ran with Sadlowski in 1977 USW...
David
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Apr 14, 2011
1:51 pm

Isn't the GE plant in Erie the locomotive plant complex, which is organized by UE? It is probably the largest UE plant today. Also, Loraine is due weat of...
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1:36 am

My recollection is that Lorraine was the large town where you could go to drink lots of beer in peace when the cuddliness of Oberlin became too depressing....
Mark A. Lause
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Apr 15, 2011
2:00 am

Not to dispute Mark's main point which I would agree with, but just for the record, the WWP did support Cynthia McKinney's candidacy in the 2008 presidential...
Paul Lefrak
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Apr 15, 2011
2:01 am

I was recently startled to see a sophomoric sectarian redbaiting rant on FB against Carl Davidson railing against him for being being a stooge of imperialism...
Tom
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Apr 15, 2011
2:40 am

It's FB. I'd trust nothing there that you don't know from elsewhere. As for Carl Davidson, if that smug, discussion-ducking dumb shit Democratic asshole that...
Mark A. Lause
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Apr 15, 2011
3:04 am

Yeah, I'm wondering if gravity is an imperialist ideology, I asked her, I mean Newton was known to be favorably disposed to the British Empire and its...
Tom
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Apr 15, 2011
3:30 am

There has been considerable information shared and discussed on the Leftist Trainspotters yahoo group about the CPs move away from long held stances in the...
Arthur Maglin
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Apr 15, 2011
6:07 pm

... I found Leftist Trainspotters to be a combination of trivial pursuit and gossip. It is also particularly frustrating when, despite itself, threads there...
Louis Proyect
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Apr 15, 2011
6:11 pm

Nothing works for everyone. But, admittedly, there is a lot of dross and trivia mixed in with useful material. And Louis is absolutely correct about the format...
Arthur Maglin
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Apr 15, 2011
6:22 pm

There are any number of these state "left" and "progressive" lists on yahoo. They usually have a big mix of people, the main virtue being that people know...
Mark A. Lause
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Apr 15, 2011
6:48 pm

I've also had my membership request for it pending since February. Unless it was approved this morning, no one has replied to my requests to the list owner to...
Max
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Apr 15, 2011
6:35 pm

Fair enough. Point taken on the WWP. Of course, the political achievement of putting together a common campaign is, in part, the process of holding a...
Mark A. Lause
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Apr 15, 2011
2:59 am
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