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Pende

Hello,

In the light of this 1622 map, I have now relocated the location of Pende
(OE pynd). My original intention was to superimpose this map over a modern
map or the other way around. Then, I realised the scales may only be
approximate.

However, in a modern map the dual smaller watercourses to the west of the
airport, have an uncanny similarity to the 1622 map. There is also a mention
of a damme (pynd = dammed up water, pond) immediately south of the Earable
Landes (thought to be the alluvium immediately east of the Mash Barn Estate,
the only land today suitable for arable) on the 1622 map which indicates
Launcinge Shopps is the location of Pende. On the coast this would be at the
west end of Widewater by Lancing Sailing Club and the gravel path towards
the coast may very well be the old route to Pende. The picture on the coast
at Launcinge Shopps seems to me to be quite clearly to be fishing boats with
the fishing huts for drying fish etc. If you have seen talks on the history
of fishing in Brighton and Sussex, they look very familiar. The landing
stage is shown in the map and this may be the one that the historical
records show was burnt down by the French (from memory).

Modern Map
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Brackish2004.htm

My notes on Pende on the web page have yet to be revised from this new
research information. Upload tomorrow.

All this seems to indicate that Widewater is likely to have been in
existence much longer than the records indicate. I had my suspicions because
of some of the marine fauna records.

Widewater
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Brackish2004.htm

Cheers

Andy Horton
glaucus@...
History of Shoreham
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/History.htm
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From: "brian drury" <brian.drury@...>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 8:50 PM
To: <sussexpast@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [sussexpast] Axaparte

> With the kind permission of Lord Egremont a fascinating 1622 map of
> Shoreham
> by George Randoll has been made available here http://tinyurl.com/ybzmaps
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> The map is unusual having North at the bottom but if you look at the top
> left hand corner there is some text that appears to say:
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> In this place being a mile distant from the shore in the sea old wales
> (rocks) to be seen at low water which are commonly called axaparte.
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> The same location has been described as Church Rock by Dummer in 1698:
> http://tinyurl.com/yclp5a9
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> Could anyone shed some light on the name axaparte please?
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> Brian
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:28 pm

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With the kind permission of Lord Egremont a fascinating 1622 map of Shoreham by George Randoll has been made available here http://tinyurl.com/ybzmaps The map...
brian drury
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Mar 15, 2010
8:51 pm

I don't suppose there are maps of a similar age and quality available on line for more Northern parts of the county such as Haywards Heath / East Grinstead? ...
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Mar 15, 2010
9:10 pm

There should be enough here: http://tinyurl.com/yjpjh7d to keep you busy. Brian _____ From: sussexpast@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sussexpast@yahoogroups.com] On ...
brian drury
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Mar 16, 2010
9:40 pm

Was that sufficient or would you like more? Brian _____ From: sussexpast@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sussexpast@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of brian drury Sent: 16...
brian drury
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Mar 26, 2010
7:28 pm

Hello, Q: what does axaparte mean? Maybe and most likely not: Forms: 4 ascopard(e, 5 -parte, 6-7 ascapart(e, -upart, 8 askapart. Name of a race of hardy...
glaucus25 Offline Send Email Mar 16, 2010
10:13 am

All (Brian) Very interesting link, Brian. As Martin commented about the possible Chichester - Pevensey Roman road recently, this whole subject of Pende,...
Robert Brown
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Mar 16, 2010
10:21 am

Hello, A very interesting map which I had not only not seen before, but I did not know it even existed. There used to be a later map in the Marlipins Museum...
glaucus25 Offline Send Email Mar 16, 2010
10:24 am

Hello, The map cross references to the thread: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sussexpast/message/6158 Medieval sea levels and the coast at Shoreham. A Castl is...
Andy Horton
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Mar 16, 2010
2:20 pm

Castle credits: William de Braose's Calendarium Inquisit Post Mortem of 1094, which says: 'Shorham maner et castr' de Bramber baronia Brembre maner et castr'...
Andy Horton
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Mar 16, 2010
5:45 pm

Research by Dr Roland Harris suggests that the Inquisit is actually that of a later de Braose. ... From: Andy Horton To: sussexpast@yahoogroups.com Sent:...
Simon Stevens
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Mar 16, 2010
10:51 pm

The section quoted is actually the calendar entry for the inquisition of William de Brewosa (Braose) who died in 1326. Inq no 89 of 19 Ed II, page 327 of [J....
Doug Thompson
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Mar 17, 2010
2:12 pm

Hello, In the light of this 1622 map, I have now relocated the location of Pende (OE pynd). My original intention was to superimpose this map over a modern map...
Andy Horton
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Mar 16, 2010
8:36 pm

Modern Map http://www.multimap.com/s/0Dtx9od8 The URL was transcribed incorrectly in the original message....
glaucus25 Offline Send Email Mar 17, 2010
3:10 pm

Hello, I like this map: http://www.britannia.com/history/saxbritmap.html And I think that the state boundaries should be redrawn along these lines. The Kent...
Andy Horton
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Mar 27, 2010
10:07 am
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