Welcome to the Survival Retreat and Secure Home Forum. This group is devoted to refining and improving technologies, techniques, and ideas for construction of realistic survival retreats and secure homes to survive catastrophic events. "If we fail to plan, we plan to fail." - Fact is, we will all move forward faster and further if we plan, work together, and share wisdom here and now. As a general rule, we stay clear of politics, prophecy, race, and religion but often stray into other areas and aspects of survivalism. Please be polite and respect your fellow like-minded survivalists. There are too few of us to quarrel, so please keep it positive. Never criticize anyone peronally, keep your constructive criticism isolated to the factual merits of the topic and your opinions thereof. In short, no name calling, etc. That doesn't furhter what we are doing here. It should go without saying that no posts that promote anything illegal will be permitted. No SPAM. Each posting here is (c) copyright original posting author on the date posted. Re-posting of any posting off this group without the express consent of the original posting author is prohibited. Any government agents or reporters here must identify themselves as such to the group in a clear posting explaining the purpose of their being here. (folks that's all I think we can do) "Head for the Hills" - about the extent of the average person's survival plan without getting to the inevitable: And then what? Our Motto: - Share, Learn, Live. Our Philosophy: The more who prepare, and the better they each prepare, the better off we all are. We welcome people to join us as survivalists. Your Moderators: Rick R, Rick Cox, Ken Brown Good Luck to you all, God Bless, and NEVER SAY DIE.