Thanks Jan - I recall the pamegranate story now that you mention it. I must have heard it years ago, although I didn't know its Stoic context at the time. It...
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Keith Seddon
khs10uk
Jul 1, 2005 1:26 pm
Hello James, ... falling out of the sky - and event they cannot control.<<< Indeed. But Stoic doctrine does not claim that people are not really killed. Rather...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jul 1, 2005 4:06 pm
This is to call your attention to a relatively new book, a collection of articles by prominent contributors to scholarly work on Stoicism and its history and...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jul 1, 2005 5:39 pm
Unlike the collection on Stoicism which I described in the previous post, all I know about this new book, Stoic Warriors, by Nancy Sherman, is that it was just...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jul 1, 2005 6:03 pm
Jan, It was not intended as a criticism of Keith. I was just interested in the process involved because it seemed to me that there were two interesting...
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Steven Hamilton
epictetusmn
Jul 1, 2005 6:21 pm
Also being published in the near future (August) is The Stoic Life: Emotions, Duties, and Fate by Tad Brennan. Both this book and the Sherman book are being...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Jul 1, 2005 6:33 pm
So what is the Stoic take on the "jitters", the "Bajeebees", the "heebee-jeebees", the "creeps", and "freakouts". For that matter, just what does Epictetus ...
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John Barnett
jbarnett53
Jul 1, 2005 7:37 pm
"...hope I am making progress away from total Sagelessness and towards something more Sagelike." I love this phrase! (Sorry, no praise intended! <grin>) John B...
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Steve & Oxsana Marquis
marquis95960
Jul 1, 2005 10:01 pm
Keith wrote: _____________ Indeed. But Stoic doctrine does not claim that people are not really killed. Rather it faces the fact that perils abound, and that...
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robin
selgusni
Jul 1, 2005 10:02 pm
... The example I give when faced with the likes of the falling airplane scenario is "Imagine someone whose greatest wish is to die. Maybe he or she has an...
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Steve & Oxsana Marquis
marquis95960
Jul 1, 2005 10:26 pm
Malcolm wrote: _____________ I do not recall any mention of 'intuitive impressions' in the Stoic literature, but many people do on occasion form accurate...
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robin
selgusni
Jul 1, 2005 11:13 pm
... Nicely put. In RET and cognitive therapy, there is a phenomenon called "symptom stress": you get a symptom, then feel bad because you have that symptom. ...
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Leah Eddy
iustasempron...
Jul 2, 2005 12:28 am
I have a question would false accusations be considered an indifferent by Stoics. And if so how does one defend ones reputation. Leah Eddy AKA Iusta Sempronia...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jul 2, 2005 1:24 am
The short answer is Yes. False accusations would be rejected or dispreferred indifferents. A rejected thing is something contrary to nature in the sense that...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jul 2, 2005 1:33 am
I was just reading Troels Engberg-Pederson's article on Paul and the Stoics in the new book Stoicism: Traditions and Transformations that I mentioned earlier...
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Adam Ophir Shapira
red_vorlon
Jul 2, 2005 3:00 am
If you, the stoic, are the one who is *making* the false accusation --- then (assuming that you *know* the accusation is false) it would be an evil. However,...
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Whaldener Endo
whaldener
Jul 2, 2005 8:57 am
Hello, Maybe you should take a look at this link: http://www-hoover.stanford.edu/publications/books/fulltext/character/85.pdf Best Wishes, Dener...
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Nigel Glassborow
nigel7579
Jul 2, 2005 10:12 am
Many years ago I was at a dance - not a formal one, but a typical 60s gathering. It was in the back room of a pub and the bar was in the main body of the pub....
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Jul 2, 2005 3:40 pm
... This is true in many cases but not all. When we speak of thing which I have knowledge of, such as scientific concepts, then I take on a more "debate"...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jul 2, 2005 8:10 pm
This starts as a comment on the distinction, recently made by Nigel, between philosophers and philosophizers. Roughly, this is the same as the distinction...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jul 2, 2005 9:44 pm
... .............. Jan, I have heard this statement about the Stoics indifference to human suffering rather often, but have never seen any evidence confirming...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jul 3, 2005 1:08 am
... ................... Jan, Those scholars who are 'historians of philosophy' have made many contributions to a renewed understanding of a subject so much of...
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Steve & Oxsana Marquis
marquis95960
Jul 3, 2005 7:03 am
Nigel wrote: _____________ Due to the nature of the medium such a debating platform will always lead to misunderstanding of the position of others. The very...
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myshalom777@...
celal777
Jul 3, 2005 11:25 am
In a message dated 07/02/2005 2:24:46 AM GMT Daylight Time, jangarrett@... writes: The short answer is Yes. False accusations would be rejected or ...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jul 3, 2005 11:38 am
... ................................ Steve, Could you explain your thinking behind these phrases? 1. Criticism of the cognitive impression, aimed at a...
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Nigel Glassborow
nigel7579
Jul 3, 2005 1:04 pm
DT says, 'Perhaps we could leave behind the philosophizing of what the various figures thought and actually do some Stoic philosophy of our own here. Could...
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Nigel Glassborow
nigel7579
Jul 3, 2005 1:05 pm
Hi Jan I find nothing to disagree with. Like Malcolm I appreciate the input of the various Stoic professor's (as I call those of your ilk). Obviously my...
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myshalom777@...
celal777
Jul 3, 2005 2:07 pm
In a message dated 07/01/2005 7:36:38 PM GMT Daylight Time, dtstrain@... writes: So what is the Stoic take on the "jitters", the "Bajeebees", the...
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Steve & Oxsana Marquis
marquis95960
Jul 3, 2005 4:34 pm
Malcolm wrote: _____________ Could you explain your thinking behind these phrases? 1. Criticism of the cognitive impression, aimed at a prokopton or idiotes,...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Jul 3, 2005 5:12 pm
Nigel: Why is it important to Stoicism? There are two answers. One answer refers back to the originators in Greece... all of their views would have started...
